Ancient and modern weapons and that sort of shit. [Archive]

Skyryder

18th July 2007, 20:51

Just a bit more shit on the line of famous battles.

So you are the soldier in the battle what would you use.

Me. I'd be in the Roman army on the catapault, tossing live pigs covered in pitch and set alight at Hannibals elephants. That's how Scipio defeated Hannabal at the Battle of Zarma.

Those berserkers in the saxon invaders sounded alright. Doped up with god knows what and off their heads. Spose if you were going to lose it getting stoned might be the way to go. Get your head lopped off and you'd problay still think you are tripping.

Modern weapon. That big 50cal sniper rifle.

Skyryder

Lias

18th July 2007, 21:39

Viking invading scotland..

Always remember to rape and pillage BEFORE you burn.

Colapop

18th July 2007, 21:43

We did. <oasifh>

0arbreaka

18th July 2007, 22:10

Ancient: Khukri

Modern: AI AWM in .338 lapua magnum:drool:

Timber020

18th July 2007, 22:21

Modern beserker- P head on a gsxr 1000 with an UZI.

0arbreaka

18th July 2007, 22:28

Modern beserker- P head on a gsxr 1000 with an UZI.

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,22056010-29277,00.html

Sanx

18th July 2007, 23:33

Best ancient weapon, by far, was the trebuchet.

-wVADKznOhY

MisterD

19th July 2007, 07:25

The thing about most of those famous battles, is it's all a bit messy in the front line....Saxon shield wall? Redcoat in the Penisular war? No ta.

Me, I'll take flying a Hawker Typoon off the "cab ranks" over Normandy - target rich environment ooh yeah!

Delerium

19th July 2007, 07:34

sAsLEX

19th July 2007, 08:03

Ancient Weapon: The Phalanx of Alexander, conquered the whole of the known world with them and their sarrissae

Modern: Rods from God. Nice big kinetic energy whack from some tungsten bolts:yes:

Sniper

19th July 2007, 08:30

.50cal sniper rifle is one of a few things

1. Heavy
2. Long
3. So much recoil you better be laying down
4. Costs around $10 per round

Make sure the muzzle brake is working or say good by to your upper body. You can cook an egg by putting it by the muzzle brake vents.

Oh and those .50 cal sniper rifles are generally not used for shooting people. They are used for hitting hard targets, such as before an air attack a sniper will shoot holes in the petrol tanks of the enemies planes parked at an air field 2km away, so that they can't scramble their planes.

Dyers, where did you get that info?

1. Its acually not that heavy and is carried around by a few units of the world.
2. Older .303's are longer than some versions of a .50
3. Thats what the recoil dampers are for that are built into the stock. I have and I have seen others fire it standing up (Not comfortably or accurately)
4. Rounds are around $5. BMG rounds are worth more.

The .50 round was designed as an armour peircing round. Now adays, snipers in the feild carry a variety of rounds for them based on the task at hand. The rifle is designed as a people killer.

A muzzel brake generally works, otherwise it flies off the barrel.

The fuel tanks are one of the last targets on an enemy aircraft. First target is always the cockpit. A fuel tank is easily repaired, electronics ect arent.

Maybe you are thinking more of the M2s ect that are mounted on APC's ect, but the .50 LRSR is a work of art and a fantastic tool.

Anyway, my fav and I was lucky enough to have owned one is the Rem 700 chambered for .300 WSM

kave

19th July 2007, 08:34

The quarterstaff is the king of weapons, simple but brutal and effective.

the Spanish unscrewed the head from a Halbered to create a makeshift Quarterstaff. Armed with the weapon of his choice Peeke stood ready to meet his next challenger. However the Spanish were clearly no longer so confident in the prowess of their soldiers for, to Peeke's consternation, two Swordsmen stepped forward to fight him. Peeke sarcastically asked if more would like to join them. The Duke of Medyna asked how many he desired to fight.

"Any number under sixe". replied Peeke.

The Duke smiled scornfully and beckoned a third man to join the original two. Peeke and the rapier men warily traversed each other, all the while thrusting and warding, till finally Peeke gambled on an all out attack. His first blow a left one of his adversaries dead and his subsequent blows left the other two injured and disarmed. No doubt they also left the spanish seriously questioning the wisdom of their invasion plans. Peeke's feat so impressed his Spanish captors that they released him and granted him safe conduct to England.

A tale to warm the heart of every Englishman, but the realities of the quarterstaff were far more gruesome, as a report from 1527 shows.

On the 4th of September, John Strynger late of Babworth, laborour, assaulted Henry Pereson of Babworth with a staff worth 1d. Which he held in both hands, striking him on top of the head so that his brains flowed out and giving him a wound 1 inch deep, 2 inches wide and 3 inches long of which he immediately died. Thus John feloniously murdered him, and immediately afterwards he fled about 9am and escaped. Robert Bramley, a man of good reputation and standing, first found Henry dead. ( J.C.Holt Robin Hood Pages 170-71 )

Street Gerbil

19th July 2007, 09:52

I wish I could think of something knightly and heroic. Alas, based on practicality I have to choose the weapon of choice of peasants and cowards - the crossbow.
Modern weapon? I have a bit of a weakness for AK47 Kalashnikov assault rifle - we captured so many of them...

slowpoke

19th July 2007, 12:45

I'd be in the Roman army on the catapault, tossing live pigs covered in pitch and set alight at Hannibals elephants.

Kinda like being dipped in honey and thrown to the lesbians......

Do you believe in reincarnation Skyryder? Given your pig story your moniker sounds like an apt name for one of those poor pigs.

Griff

19th July 2007, 12:49

Compulsive indiscriminate use of Chili powder and Laxatives .

Works against any army...any era.:shit:

Mr Merde

19th July 2007, 13:21

Given my "druthers"

Firstly equip me with a well trained brain

and secondly

my own personal nuke

The Lone Rider

19th July 2007, 13:32

Dyers, where did you get that info?

1. Its acually not that heavy and is carried around by a few units of the world.
2. Older .303's are longer than some versions of a .50
3. Thats what the recoil dampers are for that are built into the stock. I have and I have seen others fire it standing up (Not comfortably or accurately)
4. Rounds are around $5. BMG rounds are worth more.

The .50 round was designed as an armour peircing round. Now adays, snipers in the feild carry a variety of rounds for them based on the task at hand. The rifle is designed as a people killer.

A muzzel brake generally works, otherwise it flies off the barrel.

The fuel tanks are one of the last targets on an enemy aircraft. First target is always the cockpit. A fuel tank is easily repaired, electronics ect arent.

Maybe you are thinking more of the M2s ect that are mounted on APC's ect, but the .50 LRSR is a work of art and a fantastic tool.

Anyway, my fav and I was lucky enough to have owned one is the Rem 700 chambered for .300 WSM

I was thinking of the non-bullpup version of a barrett.

Sniper

19th July 2007, 13:36

I was thinking of the non-bullpup version of a barrett.

Do you know how many different manufacturers of .50 LRSR there are?

Accuracy International is a prime at the moment. Tikka have started specialising in it (and are pretty good) and there are home made versions about as well.

I see where you were coming from so no offense ment before, but you cannot lump all .50's into the same bucket when each is clearly more different than the other. Its like comparing an M113 to an M1A1

ManDownUnder

19th July 2007, 13:39

Viking invading scotland..

Always remember to rape and pillage BEFORE you burn.

Bruning??? Ha! That'd be syphillis... aka JUSTICE!

ManDownUnder

19th July 2007, 13:40

Hard to beat a grapefruit sized lump of Uranium 238 surrounded by H2O2 though. That's a party the neighbours will never forget

Lias

19th July 2007, 13:44

Do you know how many different manufacturers of .50 LRSR there are?

Accuracy International is a prime at the moment. Tikka have started specialising in it (and are pretty good) and there are home made versions about as well.

A friend of a friend just got a Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua.. We both want to have a play with it hehehe.

mmmmmmmmm

Macktheknife

19th July 2007, 14:18

.
As for me, I'll take a sword and armour, and also kevlar and a functional and practical version of the OCIW.
. :rockon:

NOW you are talking!
That would be my pick too, no better combination than sword and shield with decent armour, bring on the scrap!
modern weapons are for pussies anyway.

Mr Merde

19th July 2007, 14:21

......modern weapons are for pussies anyway.

Meeeeoooow

ManDownUnder

19th July 2007, 14:34

Meeeeoooow

LMAO.. you and me both dude! Me - in trench 200m away... head down, rifle up... and *bang*. The fuzzy wuzzies don't stand a chance.

Hell - who said it has to be fair?

Mr Merde

19th July 2007, 14:51

LMAO.. you and me both dude! Me - in trench 200m away... head down, rifle up... and *bang*. The fuzzy wuzzies don't stand a chance.

Hell - who said it has to be fair?

A fair is a social gathering. Nothing social about war.

Give me total overkill anyday.

Hitcher

19th July 2007, 14:58

My weapon of choice? My Mum. You fuck with her boy at your peril.

Mr Merde

19th July 2007, 16:00

My weapon of choice? My Mum. You fuck with her boy at your peril.

I wish to take this opportunity to thank you very much for your kind offer but at this point in time I would prefer to decline such.

Not for fear of your mother though I do get the impression that she would be a fearsome deterent for anyone who would in your parlance "fuck with her little boy"

So in reiteration

Thanks but no thanks.

Mr Merde

Macktheknife

19th July 2007, 16:43

Hell - who said it has to be fair?

Trust me, it isn't fair when I have a sword and shield, or virtually any other medieval weapon.
I truly believe that if you cannot do it up close and personal, then you shouldn't do it at all. Never mind this bombing and shelling into oblivion stuff, get in there and make it personal.
Not only is this a great solution to 'religious and political wars' but the re-occurrence rate goes down real fast.
for example, "you have offended my god and must pay", "ok you come on down here and give it your best shot, here is your sword and shield, is there anywhere special you would like your remains sent to?".
"You have caused a grave insult to my country, I will declare a war", "ok but you must first come and do battle yourself against me".
errrm, I will get back to you shortly.

El Dopa

19th July 2007, 21:07

Leaving guns and oher range weapons aside, make mine a falchion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falchion)

Choppy choppy choppy.

But then, I always turn up at gunfights with a knife.

doc

19th July 2007, 21:22

Ancient Fancy myself as bit of a runner

Modern Too old to run, fancy a couple of claymores

Korumba

19th July 2007, 21:29

The Rednecks side arm...

Mr Merde

19th July 2007, 21:33

Ancient Fancy myself as bit of a runner

Modern Too old to run, fancy a couple of claymores

My kind of person.

Why exert yourself, let the bastards come to you and feel the wrath of
1 1/2 lbs of C4 powering 1000 steel ball bearings.

When in the NZ Artillery all those years ago we had a round we got to fire occasionally.

HEAP

High Explosive Anti Personel.

5000 steel flechettes wrapped round 33lb of high explosive set off by a radar detonator.

Chopped down trees and deadly to 150 meters.

doc

19th July 2007, 21:38

My kind of person.
Why exert yourself, let the bastards come to you and feel the wrath of
1 1/2 lbs of C4 powering 1000 steel ball bearings.

If you put it that way its become a modern weapon Aka pbied

pzkpfw

19th July 2007, 21:44

75mm KwK 42 L/70

Mental Trousers

19th July 2007, 21:45

Ancient: War Elephant
Modern: A10 Warthog

Chrislost

19th July 2007, 22:37

Ancient: War Elephant
Modern: A10 Warthog

go the A10!!!
thats a gun with wings :Punk:

The Lone Rider

19th July 2007, 23:25

The Rednecks side arm...

Thatsa not no reedneeck. Thats ma pa!:dodge:

SARGE

19th July 2007, 23:47

.50cal sniper rifle is one of a few things

Oh and those .50 cal sniper rifles are generally not used for shooting people. They are used for hitting hard targets,

maybe in a vidgame ..

SARGE

19th July 2007, 23:49

Hard to beat a grapefruit sized lump of Uranium 238 surrounded by H2O2 though. That's a party the neighbours will never forget

says the Kiwi ..

my personal fav below ..carried one for YEARS

sAsLEX

19th July 2007, 23:58

says the Kiwi ..

my personal fav below ..carried one for YEARS

Bugger you are only allowed to carry the ceramic one through the airport though huh

SARGE

20th July 2007, 00:00

Bugger you are only allowed to carry the ceramic one through the airport though huh

belt buckle officer :whistle:

roll of quarters worked well too

MisterD

20th July 2007, 06:41

Leaving guns and oher range weapons aside, make mine a falchion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falchion)

Choppy choppy choppy.

But then, I always turn up at gunfights with a knife.

Well if you're going to insist on cutlery, I'll have a 1796 pattern heavy cavalry sabre.....such a brutal weapon the French complained about it apparently

***edit***
Decided to check the "apparently" (google is your friend), and it was the (curved) light cavalry sabre that the French allegedly complained about....I'll still take the big straight one though.

geoffm

20th July 2007, 20:23

Maxim gun - the main reason the poms had an Empire, especially in South Africa and Rhodesia (aka Zimbabwe) by decimating the locals the Matebele wars of 1893 as well as other prime locations.

Macktheknife

20th July 2007, 23:06

Leaving guns and oher range weapons aside, make mine a falchion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falchion)

Choppy choppy choppy.

But then, I always turn up at gunfights with a knife.

You go ahead and bring your Falchion my friend, I will face you or anyone else happily with my 13th century Scottish broadsword and a shield of my choosing, I assure you that you will leave the field embarrassed at the very least.
Having said that I award you my respect for showing up with a decent choice of weapon, and an extra point of respect for having the courage to act as a man should (in person) for any grievance.

scumdog

20th July 2007, 23:26

A muzzel brake generally works, otherwise it flies off the barrel.

The fuel tanks are one of the last targets on an enemy aircraft. First target is always the cockpit. A fuel tank is easily repaired, electronics ect arent.

Anyway, my fav and I was lucky enough to have owned one is the Rem 700 chambered for .300 WSM

Re the muzzle-brake: very effective but hoo-boy, the cloud of dust/leaves etc when fired from prone position.

Gimme my 308 Sako Finnwolf for a 'personal weapon'.

gunnyrob

21st July 2007, 12:19

ancient weapon- BFO Great axe
Modern- Either of these!
(That's me with the BLU-82)

Timber020

21st July 2007, 17:26

Now this is weopons of mass distraction....

Give me a Valmet Rk, love those feisty finns. Or an Ak. As long as it works.

Spuds1234

21st July 2007, 19:51

I'd use a Tesla Coil to zap tanks invading my bases.

Sniper

21st July 2007, 22:53

I'd use a Tesla Coil to zap tanks invading my bases.

You need to get out more man......

Sanx

22nd July 2007, 01:34

You need to get out more man......

And learn some rudimentary physics...

Spuds1234

22nd July 2007, 17:32

You need to get out more man......

Why when the internets have all the pron I'll ever need?

And learn some rudimentary physics...

What you mean CnC isnt like rl?

Jeaves

22nd July 2007, 18:08

Old , Katana
New , MOAB

Batcerb

22nd July 2007, 20:33

A nice pair of knuckle dusters for me ...

And a flamethrower for future war ... or M41A pulse rifle :sunny:

El Dopa

23rd July 2007, 20:46

Sword cane (http://www.swordcane.com/)

"what do you mean, you want my wallet? You wouldn't take money off a poor defenceless old man, would you?" Snick, stabstabstab, heh heh heh......

Mental Trousers

23rd July 2007, 21:15

Oh I should've added:
Future weapon: The Marines miniguns in Alien

phaedrus

23rd July 2007, 22:14

gijoe1313

23rd July 2007, 23:43

hmmm.. liberal interpretation time
Ancient weapon: An army, sort of a roman legion style thing.
Modern: A rack of orbiting nukes ready to be launched down anywhere.
Future: I would like an Imperial retribution class battleship, equipped with these (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exterminatus#Two-stage_Torpedoes)

Well if you're going to be like that ... give me a gromril dwarf axe and failing that one of those Runefangs.

For the modern, FAE

And instead of an Imperial Guard Class Battleship, I'll take one of those Deathstars (just gotta keep little one man fighter planes away from it! :rofl:)

But a Terminator suit will do me just fine... or a Dreadnought :whistle:

(And yeah, only 40K/Fantasy players of Warhammer will know these! :lol:)

Deviant Esq

24th July 2007, 00:01

Medievil - the English longbow. Pretty much the greatest weapon of its day, no army had an answer to the English longbow archers. For a few hundred years (until one man firearms came around) the English owned the battlefield almost chiefly because of their much feared archers. The French had the crossbow... but had no answer.

Modern? Hmm. Not too sure I'd worry about modern weapons... but if I were do I'd quite like it to be some kind of air superiority fighter. A Harrier would be awesome if purely for the wank factor of taking off and landing without a sodding runway! :Punk: