Low-siding: how to get out from under? [Archive]

cowboyz

20th July 2007, 22:14

myself I never heard of such a thing.

But if you do lowside is it my thoughts that you want to get away from the bike. Not stay with it.

Be more worthwhile to try and keep legs and arms in to stop breaking yourself and hope that money you spent on gear was worthwhile.

Wait till you think you have stopped and then count to 10 before getting up - just in case you havent.

Sam I Am

20th July 2007, 22:52

Yep nothing like sitting on a red hot exhaust pipe to make you forget you are in the middle of a crash !!!

moT

20th July 2007, 23:18

pull yourself on to the bike and surf it to a stop

R6_kid

20th July 2007, 23:22

ZeroIndex

20th July 2007, 23:29

I PULLED MYSELF FROM UNDER THE BIKE... the trick is to REALLY PULL hard on the right handlebar as the bike is falling (not sure if it will help in a front tuck situation), but yeah, you pull hard on the right handle bar as if you're trying to lift your left leg up, you shoe will probably still scrape on the ground, but it beats getting your leg munted... I dented the tank cover and bruised my right leg from the pressure I put on pulling my leg away from the road, but it worked.

I think one of the other things I did was to try do a roll-type thingy... imagine while sitting at your chair that you're going into the biggest right hand corner, as you push your right arm away and pull your left hand backwards, you kinda swing your hips/body... now, that but pulling on the bars (mainly right)... <--that's for lowsiding on the left-hand side of the bike)

carver

20th July 2007, 23:34

i've herd a few people talking about pulling themselves out from under a bike while its low siding and then getting on the bike and crouching on it while its sliding, how is this done?

isn't it hard to climb onto a bike as its moving on its side?

cheers

i have done it a few times...im not sure how though..
i usually think about what to do before it happens!

Drum

21st July 2007, 00:47

First step is to tighten your sphincter as tight as possible. The rest should come naturally.

sAsLEX

21st July 2007, 03:11

you should be fine in leathers etc, Pull in the clutch and hold on tight, then lift her up when your stopped and carry on!

justsomeguy

21st July 2007, 04:18

I don't think so, usually the bike slides off to a side and the rider continues rolling and or sliding in the direction he/she was initially travelling.

Spyke

21st July 2007, 07:59

cheers guys, havn't had a chance yet to try getting out from under a bike while its low siding but now i know a few tricks to help (tighten your sphincter as tight as possible).

actualy know i come to think of it there was one close encounter on my bucket, coming round a right hander and the exhaust (on the wrong side of bracket, fixed now) was scraping the ground every lap so i eased off, one lap was trying to catch up to someone came in faster than usual herd the familia scraping sound but by that stage i was riding on the exhaust, and the rear was coming out on a an angle, some how i managed to get it back up.

i learnt what the first stages of a low side felt like and then as i got it back up i learnt what it felt like to nearly high side. (good experience)

ZeroIndex

21st July 2007, 13:02

I guess at the end of the day, it depends how the bike lowsided, and what angle it is sliding at... if you do a 12, then the bike falls over, it generally lands with both wheels facing the direction you were going, so the seat is facing behind the direction you are travelling...

Sidewinder's Tip Of The Day: GO FACE-FIRST!!!

Mr Merde

21st July 2007, 13:08

very recent experience of a lowside. 2 weeks ago a cage took me out on the motorway.

What did I do

Apart from kicking the machine as hard as i could

absoutely nothing.

too busy hoping the oncoming traffic wasnt going to squish me to worry about the bike.

Chrislost

21st July 2007, 18:52

i've herd a few people talking about pulling themselves out from under a bike while its low siding and then getting on the bike and crouching on it while its sliding, how is this done?

isn't it hard to climb onto a bike as its moving on its side?

cheers

when i lowsided (bike meet gravel) i was about 5m behind the bike before i realised i wasnt on it anymore.
you must be still connected to the bike to stay on it!
plus if the bike catches on somthign and starts doing flips do you want to be on it???

moT

21st July 2007, 23:37

first whats a CAGE!!
and just try not to be under the bike when its slideing that hurts

McJim

21st July 2007, 23:44

Deano

22nd July 2007, 00:17

I have heard of people recovering lowsides...the technique is known as luck. Shitloads of it. If it was a simple skill we wouldn't see the likes of Valentino Rossi sliding gracelessly off a corner and throwing a title away would we?

I've heard, and seen some very reputable racers pushing off the knee to lift the bike back up.

It's only really happened to me once - felt the rear start to go.....sweet, then the front started, whoops, hang on......knee down.......sweet........but instead of pushing off the knee, the bike sorted itself out.......all good.

No pressure.

Bikes are bloody great - centrifugal forces tend to correct themselves, just relax and hang on for the ride.

ZeroIndex

22nd July 2007, 04:48

first whats a CAGE!!
and just try not to be under the bike when its slideing that hurts
A cage in general transport is another name for a motorvehicle, shown in Diagram A:
<img src=http://img.alibaba.com/photo/50369789/Transport_Cage_with_Wheels.jpg>

When it comes to motorcycles however,
a cage is something that a stunter would normally bolt onto his bike...
...to avoid it getting as f**ked as mine is right now... See Diagram B:
<img src=http://img.alibaba.com/photo/10972495/Crash_Cage.jpg>

moT

22nd July 2007, 17:01

thanks mcjim but why is a car called a cage?

moT

22nd July 2007, 17:02

oh never mind i understand now

puddy

22nd July 2007, 17:09

DocMartin

22nd July 2007, 23:04

I've heard, and seen some very reputable racers pushing off the knee to lift the bike back up.

It's only really happened to me once - felt the rear start to go.....sweet, then the front started, whoops, hang on......knee down.......sweet........but instead of pushing off the knee, the bike sorted itself out.......all good.

No pressure.

Bikes are bloody great - centrifugal forces tend to correct themselves, just relax and hang on for the ride.

When it starts to slide out, neutral throttle, turn opposite direction of the corner, roll throttle back on when ya get some grip for controlld slide

Practice it on ya dirt bike if ya not keen on scuffing ya leathers...

good fun :yes:

0arbreaka

23rd July 2007, 00:42

thanks mcjim but why is a car called a cage?

are you a complete and utter retard or are you just fucking stupid?

Roj

23rd July 2007, 10:55

As has been said it takes a lot of luck to get out of a lowside, :dodge:

if you are on a racetrack and the lowside is because you are leaning to much, then yes good technique and skills might get you out of it.:scooter:

If you deliberatley lowside because a cage has cut you off, maybe you can then think about you can do, (yes I have done this, slid the bike out to the right, pulled my left leg up and rolled off, and also in 20/20 hindsight, maybe I could have done something different):shutup:

If, as is most common when on the road you are not expecting to lowside, then you have to be very quick to react, generally when something goes wrong you would only have 1 or maybe 2 seconds to do something, the first thing is to realise that you are not were you want to be.

The best you can do is ride "defensively" and try to be ready for when things go wrong, and make sure you practise all your riding skills.:scooter:

bert_is_evil

23rd July 2007, 11:48

Hmmm, this isn't something I'd want to do - because of the weight of the bike it keeps sliding for a lot longer than a person. In all of the lowsides I've been involved in I've come to a halt a lot quicker than the bike has, which in one instance smashed into a Kerb and became a shower of assorted plastic and other parts in front of me - I wouldn't have wanted to be on top of it at the time.

ManDownUnder

23rd July 2007, 11:55

practice makes perfect. watch for the cars behind though

Practice... perfect????

My perspective. Been riding for (fark!) 22 years, with a 7 year break in the middle. So 15 years in the saddle. I'm talking daily commute here, no weekend rider. Never have been.

Not ONCE have I ever low sided, through good luck and good management. I'm 200% open to correction on this but.. practicing a lowside is kinda dumb. Practice emergency braking, practice, braking on coerners, practice all manner of things... but practice sliding down the road sitting on top of your bike while the tarmac does a commendable job of abrading it away???

errrrr no.

avgas

23rd July 2007, 11:56

I read somewhere that they are doing that stunt on the upcoming Mission Impossible 4 movie, using a KB stuntman/woman, riding an Aprilia or Ducati that sounds like a ZXR400 with an aftermarket pipe. All interested post your name on this thread!
If i see my ol' Z all scratched up, i will be seriously pissed - it took me fricken 4 weeks to get that finish all sanded up n painted

avgas

23rd July 2007, 11:58

When you feel the bike go, flick your leg around, jump off the bike and flap your arms in the air

Spyke

23rd July 2007, 18:05

flap your arms in the air

does this actually help? or is this just a piss take? would't it be better to hold them against your body?

ZeroIndex

23rd July 2007, 18:31

When you feel the bike go, flick your leg around, jump off the bike and flap your arms in the air

does this actually help? or is this just a piss take? would't it be better to hold them against your body?
avgas - That has to be the FUNNIEST post I've read on this thread, that is just pure genius, and for that, a green bling has been dispatched your way...

AndyPandy - In all honesty, if you considered avgas' comment as truth, I'd suggest you hang up the keys of your bike :killingme

cowboyz

23rd July 2007, 19:02

no need to hang up the keys to your bike. Some people are less experienced at crashing than others round here.

And yes. It was a pisstake. Keep everything tucked in and wait till you think you have stopped, and then wait till you have really stopped.

Then check the 5 essential limbs and try to work out why you are no longer on your bike.

moT

23rd July 2007, 19:55

the best way is to relax and be like a rag doll if yo tence up thats when you brake things and yes wait until you have completely stoped. or if your in the way of other bikes when your slideing try swimming off the track... avoid tumbeling that is the most painful

ZeroIndex

23rd July 2007, 20:12

avgas

24th July 2007, 14:58

Bloody hell - if your gonna go out, go out flapping.
To be honest with people here, unless your on the track you don't have the time to think about crashing....it just happens. If your lucky the natural instict in ya sez....Nah fuk it - i don't feel like dying today.
As for the limp idea - may work in some situations, but not when you legs hit the handlebar controls as you get airborne. I still have the starter button imprinted into my tibia.
Over all....dont crash. if you dont crash.....there is no need to worry about what you might do.

Spyke

24th July 2007, 17:16

Mom

24th July 2007, 17:24

When you feel the bike go, flick your leg around, jump off the bike and flap your arms in the air

Is that called "getting air?" *sniggers to self*

does this actually help? or is this just a piss take? would't it be better to hold them against your body?

I going with P/T all the way with this :yes:

is there any articles about the safest way to go sliding down the road?

UM mate, you might like to be reading articles about how NOT to go sliding down the road. Seriously! If you find yourself sliding down the road, chances are you will have had little time to position your body just so, arms flapping or otherwise. In my experience, I would suggest you remove yourself from the bike at first opportunity, for some reason bikes slide a shit load further than bodies. No doubt some clever person will have the technical scientific term for it.

Usarka

24th July 2007, 18:42

My best advice re praticing crashing is to ride off road. you develop a bit of a knack for falling off if you're as shit at me. probably doesn't help sliding as such but you get a better feel for which way to fall.

Crisis management

25th July 2007, 12:58

well hey what can i say i'm a student that believes anything people say!

isn't that the way our policaly correct government taught us?

very true avgas i truely wouldn't know the first thing about crashing a road bike.
is there any articles about the safest way to go sliding down the road?

Let me introduce a new concept........personal responsibility!

If you really want to try out crashing, a low cost method involves a hill, a straight road and a wheelie bin.
Lay the bin down so wheels and the back are on the ground, sit on it and head off down the hill. At whatever speed you want to experiment with, roll off the bin. This way you get the sound effects, plastic scraping on the road, the physical benefits, bruises etc and a controllable crash with no damage to your bike.

Videos would be appreciated.

ZeroIndex

25th July 2007, 13:40

Let me introduce a new concept........personal responsibility!

If you really want to try out crashing, a low cost method involves a hill, a straight road and a wheelie bin.
Lay the bin down so wheels and the back are on the ground, sit on it and head off down the hill. At whatever speed you want to experiment with, roll off the bin.
This way you get the sound effects, plastic scraping on the road, the physical benefits, bruises etc and a controllable crash with no damage to your bike.

Videos would be appreciated.
That is possibly one of the best posts this week - Green bling awarded :first:

vifferman

25th July 2007, 14:02

I started riding bikes in 1974, and I've lowsided only once on the road. It happened so fast, I was on the road before I realised I'd lost the front end (I hit a squashed softdrink can with the front tyre, at the moment I tipped into a sharp right-hand corner). One second I was turning, the next I was on the road wondering WTF had happened. It took a bit of investigating to find out what the WTF actually was.

In this case (as in most), clambering on top of the bike (assuming it slid for long enough to allow me to do that) would've been of no benefit. And - as others have pointed out - if the bike is sliding for any length of time, it eventually hits something and goes from sliding to somersaulting. Not exactly the sort of thing you want to be in the middle of.

Here's another point: I read Aaron Slight's autobiography a couple of months ago. He nearly lost his right hand due to a bad habit he learnt from his earlier years riding dirt bikes. He was testing at Suzuka (IIRC), when he lowsided on an easy right-hand corner. Because he'd gotten into the habit of holding onto the bars when he binned (for a quick recovery), his hand got trapped between the bars and the track, and fairly conclusively munted. The knuckle of his little finger was ground away almost completely, as well as most of the back of his hand. :shit:

Spyke

25th July 2007, 16:06

vifferman

25th July 2007, 16:23

yes well i think it would be better to learn how to avoid low siding than rather learn how to slide down the road. but it would also be gud to know what to do when your sliding down the road if you know what i mean.
OK then.
Try and stay away from the bike.
Tuck your arms in (better if you start to roll than having them flapping about getting snapped off and that sort of thing.)
Don't try to stand up until you're sure you've stopped, and until you've given yourself a quick check over of your functionality (Legs work? - check. Head still on? - check..)

Crisis management

25th July 2007, 19:18

OK then.
Try and stay away from the bike.
Tuck your arms in (better if you start to roll than having them flapping about getting snapped off and that sort of thing.)
Don't try to stand up until you're sure you've stopped, and until you've given yourself a quick check over of your functionality (Legs work? - check. Head still on? - check..)

The absurdity police wish to point out you're taking this far too seriously. :innocent:

sinned

25th July 2007, 22:15

Transalper

26th July 2007, 16:58

This thread needs a video, a real life ordinary NZ road lowside video from a camera mounted on the tank bag. Its a 65km signposted bend/intersection which turned out had a reducing radius. Gone in about 100km/hr at a guess, don't really remember, line is all wrong then the reducing radius became apparent, woops, there's an off camber bit too where the other road intersects in the bend and add a little road flushing I think they call it when the tar has come above the chip and she's all over rover.
Walked away with a minor grase on the left elbow and a slightly bigger grase on left knee. Started the slide on the left side, bike raced away in a spin, no chance of hanging on to it luckily as that would have been very bad this time, pushed down with left elbow to finish the ride on the back protector and camelpack, tucked arms in and lifted feet so not to flip. Ran out of road bounced across ditch and kind of cart
wheeled along the fence line, lucky not to get tangled in fence. Came to rest after an uncomfortable head stand, lying face down arms at side if memory serves. Bike had gone ahead, bounced over the ditch, smashed a concrete fence post at some point and gone end over end for a bit, ended way down the road half on the road half in the ditch when it stopped, oil pissing out the side.
Insurance paid, got that F650 I had been dreaming about for a while. Of course that was a couple of bikes ago.
I hope that answers the questions that might go with the video, now watch and have a chuckle at it...
-6858924780174978707

sinned

26th July 2007, 19:30

Excellent video of the occasion. :rockon:

FROSTY

26th July 2007, 23:50

Dude Im really hoping that someof this advice is the big ol Piss take.
Short version--If You HAVE lowsided get as far away from your bike as you can untill both of you are at a full stop.
To avoid a lowside--Heck thats a big ol book load of advice

bert_is_evil

27th July 2007, 09:29

Let me introduce a new concept........personal responsibility!

If you really want to try out crashing, a low cost method involves a hill, a straight road and a wheelie bin.
Lay the bin down so wheels and the back are on the ground, sit on it and head off down the hill. At whatever speed you want to experiment with, roll off the bin. This way you get the sound effects, plastic scraping on the road, the physical benefits, bruises etc and a controllable crash with no damage to your bike.

Videos would be appreciated.

If you want to do this properly, make sure you have a couple of friends in the bin with you, and you are in an appropriately steep location like, oh I don't know, in Dunedin perhaps.

roado

8th September 2007, 20:03

youd have to be pretty on to it to get on top while shes grinding when i fall off i just try to get as far away as possilbe its metal and its heavy

Ralph

8th September 2007, 20:35

Theory is great if it can be applied. My only lowside to date was on a tight corner at about 60ks. Didn't feel the tyres let go - there were microseconds between being on the bike and sliding along the road. It hurt to - I remember that.

I had almost the same experience speed and all, apart from the hurt, just dusted
myself off picked up the bike and continued on my merry way a little slower I might add.

Like a few others have mentioned if you low side....let go of the bike.

roogazza

9th September 2007, 09:14

First step is to tighten your sphincter as tight as possible. The rest should come naturally.

That just about somes it up ! Sometimes if you are close to the bike you may try to kick or push it off , but usually its just a case of "O FUCK" !!!! Gaz.

ZeroIndex

9th September 2007, 12:03

youd have to be pretty on to it to get on top while shes grinding when i fall off i just try to get as far away as possilbe its metal and its heavy

I had almost the same experience speed and all, apart from the hurt, just dusted
myself off picked up the bike and continued on my merry way a little slower I might add.

Like a few others have mentioned if you low side....let go of the bike.

That just about somes it up ! Sometimes if you are close to the bike you may try to kick or push it off , but usually its just a case of "O FUCK" !!!! Gaz.
With this topic bringing up the same kinda question/answer type posts, I thought (since this thread started because of one of my crashes (in another thread), I'd show a video of similarity to my crash...

My crash involved me travelling approx 100kph when it 12 o'clocked, unlike in this video when it was 12 o'clock from almost standstill... I was still on the bike when it went off to the right, and then it "fell over" onto it's left (similar to the video), and since I was still on the bike, i pulled myself to the "up" part of the bike, which happened to be the part 'not' sliding down the road...

Hope this answers all those posts
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cowboyz

9th September 2007, 13:53

With this topic bringing up the same kinda question/answer type posts, I thought (since this thread started because of one of my crashes (in another thread), I'd show a video of similarity to my crash...

My crash involved me travelling approx 100kph when it 12 o'clocked, unlike in this video when it was 12 o'clock from almost standstill... I was still on the bike when it went off to the right, and then it "fell over" onto it's left (similar to the video), and since I was still on the bike, i pulled myself to the "up" part of the bike, which happened to be the part 'not' sliding down the road...

Hope this answers all those posts
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oh stop it. my bullshit radar is working overtime.

ZeroIndex

9th September 2007, 15:08

oh stop it. my bullshit radar is working overtime.
WTF? I'm trying to help out here on why I stayed on my bike (while everyone else is talking about getting as far away as possible... My crash (that started this thread) wasn't a lowside... the bike 12'd, see pic #3 for number plate evidence, then veered off to the right (a tiny bit like in that video), and then it 'fell over', not jumped like in the video, but it still left a huge gouge in the road, followed by NOTHING for about 3-5 metres, then the scraping began again, giving the impression that the bike hit the ground, musta bounced a little, and then scraped along the ground again (while I was still on the bike), see pic #1 and #2

cowboyz

9th September 2007, 17:59

ZeroIndex

9th September 2007, 18:33

yawn.........................

If (and that is a huge if) you did "pull yourself up (off) on the bike as it was sliding down the road at 100k/hr I would thing it was pure dumb luck rather than a decision.

Just for the newbies out there - get away from the bike if you have crashed. Do not stay with it. Much much safer on your own sliding down the road than surfing a bike hat could end up doing anything.
Yeah, I agree with the whole "if the bike low-sides", the quicker you get away from it, the quicker you should stop (less damage etc to yourself)... It was pure luck that I managed to stay with my bike and that I got away with extremely minor injuries...

beyond

9th September 2007, 20:18

IMHO there's bugger all you can do when you lowside.
Generally you do not intend to lowside nor expect it so when it does occur you are normally looking at your next corner entry point when all of a sudden you are sliding down the road.

You have no time to do a darn thing as it happens so fast all is sweet and in the next split second you are down and out.

Depending on how fast you are going will depend on how far you are going to slide provided you hit nothing solid. You will slide a lot longer with your bike which of course increases the chances of hitting something solid.

You might have gathered from these statements that hitting something solid at this point is not desirable and will end in pain :(

Any injuries you may or may not sustain come down to pure luck and only luck or divine providence. If you escape unharmed you were lucky.

Skill, knowledge, practice really doesn't come into it. It happens so fast you have no time to react at all.

skidMark

9th September 2007, 20:54

Sounds like BS to me... you'd need to be moving at a fair pace and have held on to the bike initially. Then you have to fight the friction of the ground rushing past and then get 'behind' the bike.

The two times i have low sided I barely had time to realise it was happening, let alone decide how i was going to ride out the incident.

yeah agreed.

i wouldnt want to be near the bike...last thing you want is to get thrown off it and have it land on you/ come at you....

i try to get that bike as far away from me as i possibly can.

GaZBur

9th September 2007, 21:37

IMHO there's bugger all you can do when you lowside.
Skill, knowledge, practice really doesn't come into it. It happens so fast you have no time to react at all.

I agree - usually its over before you know. I don’t know the official safety line but my general rule of thumb is if you lowside and while the bike is between you and what you are going to possibly hit stay with it, otherwise get away from it. Over the years I managed to ride on top of a lowsided bikes twice. Once it was actually intentional – Teretonga on a Kawasaki triple put all my weight on the right peg as it went down (lowsided on the left) pulled on the bars and flicked my leg over with ankle resting on the tank. The bike ground to a halt with me still on top and a clutch lever 2 inchs shorter, picked it up and finished the race. That impressed my mates but actually didn’t impress the scruitineers overly. Second time was a Suzuki 750 which I sat on the side of as it scraped along the road (no idea how I got up there) - and thanks to the steep camber of the road was still sitting on it when it slid over to the edge of the road and into the Parramatta harbour! Last lowside was last month when the first reason I even knew I had lowsided was the intense pain in my ankle and no amount of kicking with the other leg would get the bike off me as we slid along. Many thanks to the OMCC first-aiders who took care of my foot and the nice guys who trailered my bike home while I waited forever in Casualty.

The Stranger

9th September 2007, 22:34

WTF? I'm trying to help out here on why I stayed on my bike (while everyone else is talking about getting as far away as possible... My crash (that started this thread) wasn't a lowside... the bike 12'd, see pic #3 for number plate evidence, then veered off to the right (a tiny bit like in that video), and then it 'fell over', not jumped like in the video, but it still left a huge gouge in the road, followed by NOTHING for about 3-5 metres, then the scraping began again, giving the impression that the bike hit the ground, musta bounced a little, and then scraped along the ground again (while I was still on the bike), see pic #1 and #2

So just to help clarify the situation for me please.
How many times had you low sided (not counting your 12O'clock low side) your bike and done the whole hero act and climbed on top?

Shadows

9th September 2007, 22:57

So just to help clarify the situation for me please.
How many times had you low sided (not counting your 12O'clock low side) your bike and done the whole hero act and climbed on top?

Next we'll be standing up and surfing in on the buggers:wari:

90s

17th September 2007, 12:54

Next we'll be standing up and surfing in on the buggers:wari:

At last, someone who knows their stuff.

Let me run you through the last time it happened to me.

I was overtaking a car I was racing on a blind bend on a long hairpin with a tightening radius when the back came out and down went the bike into a low slide. Quick as a flash I flicked myself onto the side of the bike and used my weight to set the slide to make the corner ... not good enough - the cliff edge was looming. I did the only thing I could - without thinking and acting on instinct alone I climbed onto the front wheel, then lowered myself onto the road in front of it. Facing backwards I was now being pushed along now by the bike. Bracing both legs on the ground - sending up showers of sparks - I gripped the bars and hoisted the bike up straigt using centrifugal forces to help me. I was then able to look over my shoulder and navigate the rest of the bend!
Obviously then it was a simple job once the bike was lined up for the straight to flick myself over the bars with a half-pike back into the seat - twist the gas, flick the Vs and watch the stunned cage driver (in a lambo diablo btw) as I completed the overtaking maneouvre and plowed up to 290ks.

And Cludia Schiffer on pillion didn't even muss her hair.

(disclaimer - noobies should NOT try this unsupervised. Technique works best in dodgy GCI. Event may not have happened exactly as outlined and I may be a little confused by that scene with the Elephant and Orlando Bloom in Return of the King.
But Claudia was on the bike, for sure.

The Stranger

17th September 2007, 13:17

At last, someone who knows their stuff.

Let me run you through the last time it happened to me.

I was overtaking a car I was racing on a blind bend on a long hairpin with a tigghtening radius when the back came out and down went the bike into a low slide. Quick as a flash I flicked myself onto the side of the bike and used my weight to set to slide to make the corner ... not good enough - the cliff edge was looming. I did the only thing I could - without think and acting on instinct alone I climbed onto the front wheel, then lowered myself onto the road in front of it, being pushed along now by the bike. Bracing both legs on the ground - sending up showers of sparks - I gripped the bars and hoisted the bike up straigt using centrifugal forces to help me. I was then able to look over my shoulder and navigate the rest of the bend!
Obviously then it was a simple job once the bike was lined up for the straight to flick myself over the bars with a half-pike back into the seat - twist the gas, flick the Vs and watch the stunned cage driver (in a lambo diablo btw) as I completed the overtaking maneouvre and plowed up to 290ks.

And Cludia Schiffer on pillion didn't even muss her hair.

Fuck! you're good.
I wanna be just like you if I grow up.

cowboyz

17th September 2007, 17:13

There was this one time, at band camp.............

kave

17th September 2007, 19:44

Let me introduce a new concept........personal responsibility!

If you really want to try out crashing, a low cost method involves a hill, a straight road and a wheelie bin.
Lay the bin down so wheels and the back are on the ground, sit on it and head off down the hill. At whatever speed you want to experiment with, roll off the bin. This way you get the sound effects, plastic scraping on the road, the physical benefits, bruises etc and a controllable crash with no damage to your bike.

Videos would be appreciated.

A friend of mine did this in Dunedin with his fiance, down the steepest street. He ended up with severe head injuries, and she ended up dead.

Teflon

27th September 2007, 18:03

You wont have time to think about it.. just let go of the bike and slide, try to avoid rolling, tumbling, you'll break bones.

Spyke

28th September 2007, 14:59

cheers for the advice, best way to go feet first on your back?

bert_is_evil

28th September 2007, 15:19

You wont have time to think about it.. just let go of the bike and slide, try to avoid rolling, tumbling, you'll break bones.

Don't try to stand up until you are certain that you've stopped sliding - that's when the tumbling begins

Skyryder

28th September 2007, 15:31

i've herd a few people talking about pulling themselves out from under a bike while its low siding and then getting on the bike and crouching on it while its sliding, how is this done?

isn't it hard to climb onto a bike as its moving on its side?
cheers

Mind you real bikers can drop it one side and change direction by flipping the bike a dropping it the other side all in one movement. The realy good one's can put the slide in reverse.:beer:

Skyryder

GaZBur

6th October 2007, 07:49

Next we'll be standing up and surfing in on the buggers:wari:
How to surf a lowsided bike.

1. Firstly practice lying down on the bike for the first few low sides to get the feel of it.
2. When you are ready to stand make sure you are wearing good gloves and boots because you will come into contact with hot engine and exhaust parts.
3. Stand up smoothly and quickly, hesitation here will make it easier to fall off the back.
4. Stay in a crouched position with knees bent - remember there is no suspension to soak up the bumps in the lowside-surfing position. Extend the arms for balance.
5. Keep your front foot firmly planted on a solid piece of frame or engine, the back foot should be on the seat side. This helps soak up bumps as well as aid balance.
6. Lean slightly back to keep the weight on the back foot.
7. When the bike comes to a stop you will find the last few feet the bike slows quite abruptly, especially if you hit gutter or car or something.
8. Crouch slightly lower when about to stop the slide, move the weight to the front foot and spring in the air. The sudden final deceleration combined with the spring will somersault you for at least one (hopefully two) full turns in the air before landing on your feet in front of the now stationary bike.

Remember like all sporting achievements - the perfect lowside surf requires lots of practice. I do recommend though that you practice close to a good medical facility as surfing low sided bikes can sometimes result in injury.

Go out there now and try it yourself - and do let us know how you get on.