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98tls

22nd July 2007, 19:05

WTF is this about,why would anyone do this and more to the point why would anyone encourage it ?

chanceyy

22nd July 2007, 19:09

dunno .. some guys like shagging a sack of bones ..

its not something I ever have to worry about .. :lol :shutup::innocent::love:

canarlee

22nd July 2007, 19:11

jaysus that is ugly!

gimme a regular sized woman and im happy!

98tls

22nd July 2007, 19:11

dunno .. some guys like shagging a sack of bones ..

its not something I ever have to worry about .. :lol :shutup::innocent::love: :gob:shag it......hell it would snap...:shit:her i mean.

98tls

22nd July 2007, 19:13

Must be the holocaust look.

Steam

22nd July 2007, 19:23

WTF is this about,why would anyone do this and more to the point why would anyone encourage it ?

Check here... pretty... uh... "interesting". In a craaaazy girl kinda way.

Pro-ana refers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro-ana)to a group or subculture that promotes or supports anorexia as a lifestyle choice rather than an eating disorder.

http://www.proanamia.com/

http://community.livejournal.com/proanorexia

98tls

22nd July 2007, 19:33

Damn,and i thought gays were fucked up............:gob:

chanceyy

22nd July 2007, 19:37

Damn,and i thought gays were fucked up............:gob:

way to many fucked up woman/men & others out there these days Mike .. but its a disease & too many ppl drive this as acceptable .. perhaps not as thin as these girls .. but certainly thin enough ..

Waylander

22nd July 2007, 19:40

Fuck that's freaky. A womans curves should not be caused by her bones sticking out....

98tls

22nd July 2007, 19:42

Not making light of the anorexia thing but how can young girls look at those things and say to themselves i want to look like that :gob:There about as sexy as a third ball on a greyhound.

chanceyy

22nd July 2007, 19:47

Not making light of the anorexia thing but how can young girls look at those things and say to themselves i want to look like that :gob:There about as sexy as a third ball on a greyhound.

thats why its a disease Mike .. the girls already have very low self esteem, food is something they feel they have control over .. been a few very very good programs on the subject lately ..

Colapop

22nd July 2007, 19:59

Nah - that aint right

98tls

22nd July 2007, 20:02

Fuck it......makes me hungry just looking at em,

Colapop

22nd July 2007, 20:04

Ewwww :sick: You wanna eat 'em???

Little Miss Trouble

22nd July 2007, 20:05

Thats so sad in a very fucked up kinda way!

never in a million years would I want to look like that

98tls

22nd July 2007, 20:06

i just knew YOU were going to say that.......tell you what if they put on some pounds..make that kilos i would be happy to.:shutup:

Deviant Esq

22nd July 2007, 20:10

That's absolutely hideous. The poor girls are victims of a disease society created - it didn't exist 50 - 100 years ago. Stupidly they way they look there they still think they're too fat. Much bigger girls have died of malnutrition even this year trying to slim down as models.

One of the many hundreds of reasons I'm glad I'm a male! Still love the ladies, mind ;)

jafar

22nd July 2007, 20:13

:sick: thats gross .

McJim

22nd July 2007, 20:15

Colapop

22nd July 2007, 20:19

i just knew YOU were going to say that.......tell you what if they put on some pounds..make that kilos i would be happy to.:shutup:
Hey, you're the one with the skinny chick thing... not me that found those pics in the first place!

98tls

22nd July 2007, 20:19

The pictures are photoshopped.

I'll go looking for the link...and the originals. They are thin but not as thin as the photos in the first post.

It's a hoax. Am glad of that........as they seem like models was the thing that had me buggered.

Colapop

22nd July 2007, 20:20

And now he wants buggery... form bad to worse Mikey.... it's a downhill slide...

98tls

22nd July 2007, 20:23

And now he wants buggery... form bad to worse Mikey.... it's a downhill slide... yea yea......me ma works for telecom..or whoever they are these days..she gets all these emails sent to her everday and its become an annoying habit to just send em on to me.

Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)

22nd July 2007, 20:23

When I had a friend dying in hospital a couple of years ago and I was basically living at the hospital - there were 2 girls in there for anorexia - yep they looked like the above photos - without makeup.

scumdog

22nd July 2007, 20:31

Not making light of the anorexia thing but how can young girls look at those things and say to themselves i want to look like that :gob:There about as sexy as a third ball on a greyhound.

But think how cheap it would be to buy one of those girls a set of leathers..

Bloody sad though eh? Hard to fathom how the hell they CAN'T see what they really look like.

Little Miss Trouble

22nd July 2007, 20:36

coz im the curious type i had a read of some of the stuff in those links Steam posted... :sick: one of the many evils of the net, where there are so many of those poor girls signed up they convince themselves that its 'normal'

Curious_AJ

22nd July 2007, 20:36

The pictures are photoshopped.

I'll go looking for the link...and the originals. They are thin but not as thin as the photos in the first post.

It's a hoax.
http://www.snopes.com/photos/people/models.asp

'ere you go.

they're still disgustingly underweight!!

geez, i'm more or less at a happy weight for my size, of course it would be nice to drop about 5kgs, but i'd never want to be a bag of bones... REAL women have CURVES, not boney outcroppings... I support people who are not aftraid to have a little bit of love handle (however, in saying that, theres a difference between curvey and fat) ...

Panther

22nd July 2007, 20:41

Heaps of chicks aspire to be size zero. Some of the more dedicated ones break their hands to avoid eating, instead of taking coke.

Stirts

22nd July 2007, 20:43

they're still disgustingly underweight!!

geez, i'm more or less at a happy weight for my size, of course it would be nice to drop about 5kgs, but i'd never want to be a bag of bones... REAL women have CURVES, not boney outcroppings... I support people who are not aftraid to have a little bit of love handle (however, in saying that, theres a difference between curvey and fat) ...

What she said.

These girls have serious mental issues.....treatment is scarse/under resourced at best, the best they can do for most girls is get them to put on a bit of weight....but their headspace is still fucked

McJim

22nd July 2007, 20:44

Heaps of chicks aspire to be size zero. Some of the more dedicated ones break their hands to avoid eating, instead of taking coke.

I thought you did it to stop your L&P habit! :rofl:

Curious_AJ

22nd July 2007, 20:50

What she said.

These girls have serious mental issues.....treatment is scarse/under resourced at best, the best they can do for most girls is get them to put on a bit of weight....but their headspace is still fucked

this is muchly true... the thing is... therapy is needed as well as kind of fource feeding these stick insects (no offence, but its true)...

I know someone who had problems in highschool with eating disorders and stuff, she's one of the most beautiful girls i know, and when she disappeared from school for a few months after steadily growing more skinny and more pale, we all knew what it was... but, she got back into a normal headspace, got some therapy and started eating again,and now she loves baking and cooking and is once again a good weight and curvey as a latino!evidence that people CAN get over this...It's just hard going to do so... and people who aspire to be thin are just kidding themselves... eat right and excersise regularely and you'll be guarenteed to be at your ideal weight... forget the BMI bullshit...

007XX

22nd July 2007, 20:53

Had a little to do in the past with the world of modelling and very unfortunately, girls like these are a reality.
I've always been small boned, and so always on the "slight built" type and I used to get all sorts of comments between 16 and 20 years of age...it was hard for me to put on weight...meisuring 5.8" and weighing in at 45kgs, but I had always been as healthy as a horse and I certainly never looked like these girls.

Anorexia is a disease, but those girls start very young and the peer pressure for the absolutely thin look is unbelievable...

thankfully, runways around the world are now starting to change this around...for example, in Milan it is now forbidden to do catwalk work unless you have curves, real ones...

Hopefully, the mentalities are changing.

car

22nd July 2007, 21:46

gimme a regular sized woman and im happy!

I'm with Sir Mix-a-Lot.

rudolph

22nd July 2007, 21:53

Thats so bad for you, there bodys have even used up the mussle

The Pastor

23rd July 2007, 08:37

A GOOD JOKE TO TELL AN anorexiC CHICK IS THAT SHES FAT, SHE WILL LAUGH COS anorexiC CHICKS ARNT FAT!!! LOL!! ROFLCOPTER!

janno

23rd July 2007, 08:52

Not making light of the anorexia thing but how can young girls look at those things and say to themselves i want to look like that :gob:There about as sexy as a third ball on a greyhound.

It's yet another mental illness - this time manifesting itself as body dismorphia. Those poor chickies will look at themselves in the mirror and see someone two stone overweight!!

Interestingly, it is very much a rich western society disease. In cultures where people have to worry about surviving, eg because of war or starvation, or it is a subsistance culture, anorexia doesn't exist.

And now I've just seen the post which shows it has been photoshopped! Why bother? Someones put a hell of a lot of time and effort into falsifying facts to prove their point. I don't get it.

scumdog

23rd July 2007, 09:08

A GOOD JOKE TO TELL AN anorexiC CHICK IS THAT SHES FAT, SHE WILL LAUGH COS anorexiC CHICKS ARNT FAT!!! LOL!! ROFLCOPTER!

I've told you before: Keep taking your pills.:yes:

FlangMasterJ

23rd July 2007, 10:45

Look's photoshopped. No one would let Skeletor walk down the runway like that.

Big Dave

23rd July 2007, 10:47

Look's photoshopped. No one would let Skeletor walk down the runway like that.

? - Shock value is some designer's tool of trade.

Whynot

23rd July 2007, 10:51

Look's photoshopped. No one would let Skeletor walk down the runway like that.

see page 2

breakaway

23rd July 2007, 10:51

KATWYN

23rd July 2007, 10:52

WTF is this about,why would anyone do this and more to the point why would anyone encourage it ?

The media, advertising, magazines, general western world attitudes toward
women and how they are "valued" (i.e., as physical objects) and the cultural construction of femininity......

Thats whos encouraging it....its an illness of epidemic proportion

Guitana

23rd July 2007, 16:46

WTF is this about,why would anyone do this and more to the point why would anyone encourage it ?

That's farkin sick!!!! Looks like a fashion parade at a concentration camp!!!!!
Schnell schnell Gretchen von Broom sticken!!!

Brett

23rd July 2007, 22:27

Man that is so incredibly sad. Those women are bordering on being dead...literally. So Sad.

NotaGoth

24th July 2007, 19:03

Good way to end up like that is when you have someone who on a daily basis tells you that you are fat, and keep on calling you "lard arse"

You eventually are unable to see the real you, even when you end up being skin and bones, all you see is the lies people are feeding you

Curious_AJ

24th July 2007, 21:35

Good way to end up like that is when you have someone who on a daily basis tells you that you are fat, and keep on calling you "lard arse"

I've been trough that myself, my brother has done it EVERY day of my life, and is serious about it... my mother has also always been critical of my weight (she suffered from eating problems when she was around my age up until after she was married to my father even) some days I've taken notice of it and gotten really distressed, other days I just think, I am what I am, I do what I want...

since I turned vegetarian, the tables have turned... I HAVE lost SOME weight, but nothing that drastic, and they now say that I'm "fading away" especially my father... and they try to make me eat more, or try to get me back onto meat.. but in truth, I feel way more healthy than ever (and I DO get all my nutrients, I know how to eat sensibly)

so, after all of this.. there is loads of pressure, even from people who you wouldnt think would be so completely insensitive about it... and changing diets DOES change people's views... but if you arent well informed about what changes to make, it can lead you into trouble... its a fine line...

NotaGoth

24th July 2007, 21:51

I've been trough that myself, my brother has done it EVERY day of my life, and is serious about it... my mother has also always been critical of my weight (she suffered from eating problems when she was around my age up until after she was married to my father even) some days I've taken notice of it and gotten really distressed, other days I just think, I am what I am, I do what I want...

since I turned vegetarian, the tables have turned... I HAVE lost SOME weight, but nothing that drastic, and they now say that I'm "fading away" especially my father... and they try to make me eat more, or try to get me back onto meat.. but in truth, I feel way more healthy than ever (and I DO get all my nutrients, I know how to eat sensibly)

so, after all of this.. there is loads of pressure, even from people who you wouldnt think would be so completely insensitive about it... and changing diets DOES change people's views... but if you arent well informed about what changes to make, it can lead you into trouble... its a fine line...

Know what its like.. Used to be 54kg, and would be picked on for being "skinny".. Still had people calling me fat etc etc.. gets to you after a while.. apparently I'm "small" but I don't see that for myself.. Because of high stress when mum went to aussie for a while after dad died, and bad diet (lived off yoghurt and fruit) I dropped to 50kg, body couldn't handle it and pretty much had everyone complaining that I looked sickly..
After meeting my partner, I've become much happier.. I eat LOTS... I'm now 58kg.. Yet now I get called nasty things like "lard arse" and "fatty" ain't in a joking manner either.. Had my ex pinch my arse and say "noticed its gotten fat, can tell it definately has"
Sad part is the nasty things people say sometimes get to you..
You just can't win

kiwifruit

24th July 2007, 22:00

now I get called nasty things like "lard arse" and "fatty" ain't in a joking manner either.. Had my ex pinch my arse and say "noticed its gotten fat, can tell it definately has"
Sad part is the nasty things people say sometimes get to you..
You just can't win

wow
people can be so fuckin harsh
try not to let it get to you cos you sure aren't "a fatty".

you can win btw

:rockon:

avgas

24th July 2007, 22:02

Fat is ugly......skinny is more
Oh sweet Jesus Women!! Eat SomEthing!!!!

canarlee

24th July 2007, 22:04

Fat is ugly......skinny is more
Oh sweet Jesus Women!! Eat SomEthing!!!!

cream cake anyone?:scooter::dodge:

NotaGoth

24th July 2007, 22:04

That post has ended up so mangled :shit:

007XX

24th July 2007, 22:19

[QUOTE=Curious_AJ;1144701]

Know what its like.. Used to be 54kg, and would be picked on for being "skinny".. Still had people calling me fat etc etc.. gets to you after a while.. apparently I'm "small" but I don't see that for myself.. Because of high stress when mum went to aussie for a while after dad died, and bad diet (lived off yoghurt and fruit) I dropped to 50kg, body couldn't handle it and pretty much had everyone complaining that I looked sickly..
After meeting my partner, I've become much happier.. I eat LOTS... I'm now 58kg.. Yet now I get called nasty things like "lard arse" and "fatty" ain't in a joking manner either.. Had my ex pinch my arse and say "noticed its gotten fat, can tell it definately has"
Sad part is the nasty things people say sometimes get to you..
You just can't win

Look, I'm sorry but I have to say something here...I don't know you, but honnestly: NO WOMAN should put up with [B]anyone[B]telling them that their arse has gotten fat in that manner...Nor calling you those names!

I'm not saying that you should break their faces but do not let them get to you...

People will make such comments based on their own perception of what the "body beautiful" should be and I'll bet that 99% of these people will actually not feel good about their own body to start with...so who the heck are they to criticise???

I used to be in a relationship where I was made to feel like that, and I am a strong advocate for getting out of it.

Do not, under any circumstance, let someone else determine who you are...only you can do that!

*sorry, rant over...keep your chin up girls*

NotaGoth

24th July 2007, 22:38

Look, I'm sorry but I have to say something here...I don't know you, but honnestly: NO WOMAN should put up with [B]anyone[B]telling them that their arse has gotten fat in that manner...Nor calling you those names!

I'm not saying that you should break their faces but do not let them get to you...

People will make such comments based on their own perception of what the "body beautiful" should be and I'll bet that 99% of these people will actually not feel good about their own body to start with...so who the heck are they to criticise???

I used to be in a relationship where I was made to feel like that, and I am a strong advocate for getting out of it.

Do not, under any circumstance, let someone else determine who you are...only you can do that!

*sorry, rant over...keep your chin up girls*

Sorry it shouldn't be coming up quoting AJ as it was a post I made *tried to fix it*

Saying shit like that is just a way to bring you down to their level.. And leave you feeling worthless and like no one else could ever want you..

It hurts yes.. But when you walk down the main street of town, and notice your ex driving past staring like some freak.. You realize that they know what they have actually lost (Must be great if they still can't keep their eyes off it after a year right??).. Can't be all that disguisting if they can't not gawk..

Gorgeous to some.. Disguisting to others.. Personal taste.. There will always be someone out there who likes you for you

alright I'm off to find some pies.. lol

car

25th July 2007, 08:12

I used to be in a relationship where I was made to feel like that, and I am a strong advocate for getting out of it.

Finally, some sense. Getting the hell out of it goes for all of your relationships, by the way; if your parents, family or bible study group are screwing you up, in whatever way, walk away from them too.

007XX

25th July 2007, 09:04

Saying shit like that is just a way to bring you down to their level.. And leave you feeling worthless and like no one else could ever want you..

Gorgeous to some.. Disguisting to others.. Personal taste.. There will always be someone out there who likes you for you

Good on you...That's one of the great privileges of growing older: you stop giving a hoot about what other people think... The "I'm no oil painting, and if I'm not to your taste and can't be civil/polite about it, then get out of my face" attitude is becoming more prevalent for me...

Finally, some sense. Getting the hell out of it goes for all of your relationships, by the way; if your parents, family or bible study group are screwing you up, in whatever way, walk away from them too.

Cheers...and yes, I agree. No one should have that much influence on you, especially when it is a negative one. Don't stand for it...EVER.:nono:
The only people that need to stay in your life are those that inspire, challenge and just entice you to be a better person.

KATWYN

25th July 2007, 11:08

:
The only people that need to stay in your life are those that inspire, challenge and just entice you to be a better person.

Here here. Why people take on board insulting comments from others is beyond me, who the hell are they in the grand scheme of things?? Nobodies. and certainly not people priviledged to be in my life.

The insulted person not only has their spirit broken but they ALSO give the insulter all their personal power by letting it affect them, does the nobody deserve to be rewarded in that way.....? I don't think so!

If it was someone who I respected that called me insulting names I would seriously re-evalute my opinion of that person.

Don't get me started on wrinkles. Each wrinkle is telling a story of a long life lived ....but gross western culture tells us we should be ashamed of our life because there are wrinkles! hide them! (i.e., wrinkle cream ads on tv make me sick)

007XX

25th July 2007, 12:23

Here here. Why people take on board insulting comments from others is beyond me, who the hell are they in the grand scheme of things?? Nobodies. and certainly not people priviledged to be in my life.

The insulted person not only has their spirit broken but they ALSO give the insulter all their personal power by letting it affect them, does the nobody deserve to be rewarded in that way.....? I don't think so!

If it was someone who I respected that called me insulting names I would seriously re-evalute my opinion of that person.

Don't get me started on wrinkles. Each wrinkle is telling a story of a long life lived ....but gross western culture tells us we should be ashamed of our life because there are wrinkles! hide them! (i.e., wrinkle cream ads on tv make me sick)

Couldn't agree more:Punk:

Curious_AJ

25th July 2007, 12:35

haha, okay.. i have another example of people trying to change your weight... I used to be with this guy who was someone who liked fuller women... This guy kept telling me that He'd love it if my "bum wobbled more" and kept trying to feed me crap... I think it was mainly a culture thing gone wrong... but yeah, he was really kind of screwed..

then, he started telling me that I was getting fat, and so I was incredibly confused.... but yeah, all through this the guy was doing other things to undermine my confidence and demean me as a woman... (rather disgraceful) and whats worse i stayed with him for 10 months in fear of feeling guilty for dumping his arse...

when i went away with my folks on a cruise for 12 nights then came back, i had reached a better weight and more stable mental space after just that short with no contact with him... and needless to say, i threw him to the trash (endured several months of him stalking me and calling me a fat bitch after though :s) but took control of myself and now i'm healthy! :D

Trudes

25th July 2007, 12:44

Yep, you can't win!!
There was another thread where people were going on about what a blimp and stuff some chick was, she was overweight, yes, but she obviously still had some love for the way she looked given her pose, and there's this thread with people going on about how disgusting these malnutritioned girls are for being so thin. Sometimes the negative attitudes of others affect people's self image to the point where they either overeat or stop eating all together, it's really easy to judge when you're perfect I'm sure!

007XX

25th July 2007, 12:48

Curious_AJ

25th July 2007, 12:54

the best weight is the weight that you're most healthy at, I think anyway.

being too fat OR too thin is not good for you... so eat, drink, be merry but do it in suitable amounts ^_^

Trudes

25th July 2007, 12:55

Worth taking a good, long hard look at ourselves before throwing the stone, eh???

Agreed...surprising how many forget to do that:angry:

Yep, basically what I was getting at. :rockon:
It's very easy to say "Geeze go on a diet and get some exercise" to someone who's overweight or "Eat a pie for Christ's sake" to someone who's underweight, but we don't know what has made that person that way really, and the reality is, would you say that to their faces, a stranger in the street? I know I wouldn't, it's none of my business, they may be happy the way they are, and if they're not, me going up to them and saying "geeze, here have my pie, you need it more than I do" is not going to make a blind bit of difference. Rant over.

Curious_AJ

25th July 2007, 12:57

here here!!

agreed with above statement!

007XX

25th July 2007, 12:58

Trudes

25th July 2007, 13:00

Righto...it is confirmed...I definitely wish to meet you when in Wellie next:yes:

and we'll have a pie, or a pizza, or whatever the heck we like:Punk:

Hehe, I reckon!! A pizza and a dozen Speights to celebrate my thunder thighs sounds good to me, what's your poison and affliction? :Punk:

007XX

25th July 2007, 13:06

Hehe, I reckon!! A pizza and a dozen Speights to celebrate my thunder thighs sounds good to me, what's your poison and affliction? :Punk:

I'm afflicted with a less than satisfying occupation (read: my boss is a stressful, dispiriting twat)...Poison: Jamieson:Punk: on the rocks if I really want to get hammered, or with Dry if I want to make it last...

But I don't want to get this thread off the track, so I'll PM you further on this subject?

Girls, at any rate...you are worth more than anyone who is trying to bring you down. And anytime you have the need to chat, just get on line and I know everyone will be right behind you...

car

25th July 2007, 14:04

Girls, at any rate...you are worth more than anyone who is trying to bring you down. And anytime you have the need to chat, just get on line and I know everyone will be right behind you...

And guys, as there's absolutely no pressure to conform to an ideal an unattainable body image for you, you'd best just HTFU and stop eating pies. Or eat more pies. Or something.

;)

007XX

25th July 2007, 14:12

And guys, as there's absolutely no pressure to conform to an ideal an unattainable body image for you, you'd best just HTFU and stop eating pies. Or eat more pies. Or something.

;)

Oh, sorry:Oops:...I didn't mean to sound so gender specific. I guess I was just trying to answer the girl's stories as they'd hit home pretty sharply.

But by all means, please rest assured that I believe men to have a really tough time of it as well. They just don't speak of it as freely as we girls do, I guess.

We ALL struggle with our body image sometimes and all deserve an ear to listen to us in those moments.
I'm happy to be that hear for ladies or gents:yes:

car

25th July 2007, 14:44

Oh, sorry

I was yanking your chain, don't fret.

But by all means, please rest assured that I believe men to have a really tough time of it as well. They just don't speak of it as freely as we girls do, I guess.

There's that, and I believe that men and women care differently about different things. By and large men have simpler insecurities.

Lissa

25th July 2007, 14:54

Hehe, I reckon!! A pizza and a dozen Speights to celebrate my thunder thighs sounds good to me, what's your poison and affliction? :Punk:
OMG.... ME TOO, I'll bring the pizza!... and a croissant! :D

A part of growing up is not trying to change yourself for anyone. Be happy with who you are. Beauty to me is on the inside. So many 'good looking' people have personaities of a dog, and in that makes them 'ugly' in my eyes.

canarlee

25th July 2007, 14:55

yes but anyone who says looks dont matter is also a liar!

chanceyy

25th July 2007, 14:57

Yep, basically what I was getting at. :rockon:
It's very easy to say "Geeze go on a diet and get some exercise" to someone who's overweight or "Eat a pie for Christ's sake" to someone who's underweight, but we don't know what has made that person that way really, and the reality is, would you say that to their faces, a stranger in the street? I know I wouldn't, it's none of my business, they may be happy the way they are, and if they're not, me going up to them and saying "geeze, here have my pie, you need it more than I do" is not going to make a blind bit of difference. Rant over.

Agree with ya posts there Trudie girl .. my motto .. ppl either have to accept me as I am or fuck off ... simple really .. weight has always been an issue for me, & slowly but surely its coming off .. but every day is a struggle and can be frustrating esp when you want results more quickly

My g/f opposite end of spectrum she was far to skinny .. ate way more than I did & used to hate that everyone mentioned how skinny she was .. funny really .. two ppl polar opposites in weight & we both had our insecurities .. was great to be able to talk freely about it & understand where each person came from

also age is a great thing .. you really get past being self conscious & worrying about others opinions .. & you begin to really live your life ...

jrandom

25th July 2007, 15:04

I used to be with this guy... stayed with him for 10 months... threw him to the trash (endured several months of him stalking me and calling me a fat bitch after though :s)

You know what scares me?

18-year-old girls talking in the tone of middle-aged women looking back on a hard life.

Where's the innocence? Don't parents protect their kids any longer?

007XX

25th July 2007, 15:06

I was yanking your chain, don't fret.

There's that, and I believe that men and women care differently about different things. By and large men have simpler insecurities.

Woof..:laugh:

And yes, I agree:yes:

canarlee

25th July 2007, 15:11

Where's the innocence? Don't parents protect their kids any longer?

thats all very well asking that, but then a lot of parents get told off for mollycoddling their kids too much!

either way, as said before, (by AJ i think) you cant bloody win!

Curious_AJ

25th July 2007, 17:04

You know what scares me?

18-year-old girls talking in the tone of middle-aged women looking back on a hard life.

Where's the innocence? Don't parents protect their kids any longer?

well no, i was never protected, i was FORBIDDEN... there is a difference.. and I was made to grow up by myself, my brothers were always nurtured.. but being the third child and the only girl... well my folks just left me to it.. I had to grow up fast... at least my father has always been good to me.. hes a Nazi-type dictator.. but at least he gave a crap!! my mom on the other hand.. well, she DEFINATELY has my brothers as her favourites no matter how much she denies it...

hence, I sound like a 42 year old... (and look like one too quietly)

Deviant Esq

25th July 2007, 18:11

I'm used to people thinking I sound a lot older than I am too AJ, so I know exactly what you mean.

then, he started telling me that I was getting fat, and so I was incredibly confused.... but yeah, all through this the guy was doing other things to undermine my confidence and demean me as a woman... (rather disgraceful) and whats worse i stayed with him for 10 months in fear of feeling guilty for dumping his arse...
It doesn't matter what the relationship is, it's simply not acceptable in any relationship to criticise someone for their weight or body shape. It sort of goes like this: "If you really think I'm that fat or ugly, why the hell are you with me? In fact, since you can't appreciate me for me, I don't think you're allowed to be with me. Fuck off." Obviously it depends on how serious the criticism is... but IMO noone's allowed to criticise anyone they're with like that. If you think I'm too fat for you, go somewhere else. Maybe I really want to lose weight, even for you, but if you're not willing to love me regardless? Then you're not much of a person.

I should point out here, in reply to some earlier messages, that it's not only girls who get this - guys feel insecure about their bodies / weight / musculature as well, and some simple comments even meant in jest can be quite cutting. We all hear girls talking away to their girlfriends / workmates about some sexy guys they met or whatever... when they do it in front of you (couple of girls at my work were on about it today), it makes you feel as though you're totally irrelevant when it comes to that sort of conversation, that you wouldn't ever be the subject of a couple of girls saying "man he was sexy, wouldn't have minded..." etc.

I don't know, maybe that didn't make a great deal of sense, but you get what I mean. :mellow:

avgas

25th July 2007, 21:14

Fat people, you are too fat.
Skinny people, you are to skinny.
Quit your whining and go fix your problem - your lazy

peasea

25th July 2007, 22:43

Fat people, you are too fat.
Skinny people, you are to skinny.
Quit your whining and go fix your problem - your lazy

Hmmm, not entirely true but not a bad point either.

I have a 'rounded' missus, it bothers her, not I. I have a very slim daughter, it bothers nobody. My lady is a beacon of affection and tries to lose weight, walks daily, eats like a sparrow and is the best thing that ever happened to me.

My daughter has just turned 17 yet had to wait six months to qualify to give blood at 50kgs. She's now 53kgs. To look at her you would understand that she's slim, yes, but in proportion to herself and very healthy.

My other daughter is slightly heavier, taller and stronger. I love them equally.

People vary, so do opinions.

While the females in the first picture do nothing for me and I can appreciate why some people find them unattractive, there must be some market for them, otherwise they wouldn't do what they do to look like that. There are some 'fat' porn sites for example, all sorts of weird shit to make people 'happy'.

I have a black t-shrt and a pair of jeans, what more fashion do you need?

I'm used to people thinking I sound a lot older than I am too AJ, so I know exactly what you mean.

It doesn't matter what the relationship is, it's simply not acceptable in any relationship to criticise someone for their weight or body shape. It sort of goes like this: "If you really think I'm that fat or ugly, why the hell are you with me? In fact, since you can't appreciate me for me, I don't think you're allowed to be with me. Fuck off." Obviously it depends on how serious the criticism is... but IMO noone's allowed to criticise anyone they're with like that. If you think I'm too fat for you, go somewhere else. Maybe I really want to lose weight, even for you, but if you're not willing to love me regardless? Then you're not much of a person.

I should point out here, in reply to some earlier messages, that it's not only girls who get this - guys feel insecure about their bodies / weight / musculature as well, and some simple comments even meant in jest can be quite cutting. We all hear girls talking away to their girlfriends / workmates about some sexy guys they met or whatever... when they do it in front of you (couple of girls at my work were on about it today), it makes you feel as though you're totally irrelevant when it comes to that sort of conversation, that you wouldn't ever be the subject of a couple of girls saying "man he was sexy, wouldn't have minded..." etc.

I don't know, maybe that didn't make a great deal of sense, but you get what I mean. :mellow:

A lot of what you say is true, a lot of what you say could (could) have been said by a lover with a small penis. "Love for who I am, not for the size of my dick" etc etc. Try telling that to an insecure sixteen year-old boy with a miniscule dick, bad acne and a stutter.

You get what you get when you get it, like boobs for girls I guess. Some things in life just ain't fair.

I'm used to people thinking I sound a lot older than I am too AJ, so I know exactly what you mean.

It doesn't matter what the relationship is, it's simply not acceptable in any relationship to criticise someone for their weight or body shape. It sort of goes like this: "If you really think I'm that fat or ugly, why the hell are you with me? In fact, since you can't appreciate me for me, I don't think you're allowed to be with me. Fuck off." Obviously it depends on how serious the criticism is... but IMO noone's allowed to criticise anyone they're with like that. If you think I'm too fat for you, go somewhere else. Maybe I really want to lose weight, even for you, but if you're not willing to love me regardless? Then you're not much of a person.

I should point out here, in reply to some earlier messages, that it's not only girls who get this - guys feel insecure about their bodies / weight / musculature as well, and some simple comments even meant in jest can be quite cutting. We all hear girls talking away to their girlfriends / workmates about some sexy guys they met or whatever... when they do it in front of you (couple of girls at my work were on about it today), it makes you feel as though you're totally irrelevant when it comes to that sort of conversation, that you wouldn't ever be the subject of a couple of girls saying "man he was sexy, wouldn't have minded..." etc.

I don't know, maybe that didn't make a great deal of sense, but you get what I mean. :mellow:

A lot of what you say is true, a lot of what you say could (could) have been said by a lover with a small penis. "Love me for who I am, not for the size of my dick" etc etc. Try telling that to an insecure sixteen year-old boy with a miniscule dick, bad acne and a stutter.

You get what you get when you get it, like big/small boobs for girls I guess. Some things in life just are or aren't fair. It's all about perception.

Love, like music, should be absorbed with your eyes shut.

Curious_AJ

25th July 2007, 22:55

why did this turn into a "dicks and love" topic?

bringing it back... I think that the media is horrible in how they portray "beauty"...

and as for the skinny chicks... well obviously most clothes "look better" in the media eye, on skinny people, than they do on normal sized to rounded people... its the sad truth we have to live with in a society where media has run amok!!