Calling all Club 250ers. Do you want rides posted in Club 250?

[Maverick]

Hi Everyone,

Recently we had a long posting member infracted and his thread about a 250 ride removed by a mod as it was not in "meetings and events"
I say club 250 is for 250 members and if an event is specifically for 250 riders then this is the right place for it,

Since the very beginning of Club 250 riders have posted about rides here, and it is often the first port of call for newer riders when the first join KB.

What do you think? Do you want 250 rides posted here? This is your chance to have a say!

Its certainly a yes from me!

Mav :cool:

[BigRed2007]

Maybe have highlighted that its a meeting :P

[Hitcher]

Before people get too excited about this, the reason for the infraction was posting the same information in more than one thread, not for posting in the 250 thread, although Meetings and Events should really go in the Meetings and Events thread. Post in one or the other, not both.

I refuse to believe that 250 riders only read the Club 250 thread and nothing else on this site.

[gijoe1313]

Well, bikers being bikers - we all have a healthy scepticism of authority and anything that smacks of the nanny state. All good and well, I understand the need for rules and some arbitary decisions to be made (for the greater good)

But does all things have to be pigeoned holed so sperzackerly? And is there going to be the usual state of affairs where you get punished for trying to second-guess whether you will be doing something right or wrong?

A more lenient and even-handed approach works wonders, as a teacher I don't automatically jump down or punish a student who has transgressed. Only if that behaviour was "cynical" or continued would there be a need to "enforce" the law of the land.

A quiet word and explanation works wonders ... and with sensible and logical people, that's all is required. Otherwise hackles get raised, previously obedient toe-the-line people get hoity-toity etc.

For heavens sakes, we are bikers! We bike! Thats what we do - and we enjoy sharing our passion with other bikers, warts and all. We make mistakes, we get reminded, and appropriate measures are taken. But with consideration and at an appropriate level!

My two cents ...

[Hitcher]

This issue isn't about pigeon-holing. It's about only posting something once, rather than repeated in every forum that it's poster could possibly imagine.

If somebody is miffed by this, tough. There is plenty of choice for threads in which to post. In fact there's even one specially for dickheads.

Remember, only post something once in the most appropriate thread. Newish members will generally escape with a warning. Any offender with a few hundred posts under their belt is expected to know better and will get infracted.

[ManDownUnder]

errr.... Meetings and events go into that section... I mean it stands to reason that's what it's for.

It's not "Most meetings and events", or "Some meetings and events". If there's a KB meeting or KB event... then that's where it goes.

[canarlee]

errr.... Meetings and events go into that section... I mean it stands to reason that's what it's for.

It's not "Most meetings and events", or "Some meetings and events". If there's a KB meeting or KB event... then that's where it goes.

i agree with stupid^^^:dodge:

[gijoe1313]

Well obviously some people still get it wrong and make the mistake for the first time....

[Toaster]

There is plenty of choice for threads in which to post. In fact there's even one specially for dickheads.


I think I know the one. It must be taking up far too many valuable kilobytes by now..... time to shut it down? (evil snigger....)

[Hellraiser]

Put the details of the ride in the Meetings Forum and then open a "Discussion Thread" in the Club 250 Forum.

[zeocen]

Since I started riding and going on the group rides here I've always found out about them in this forum, and have the same post in the meetings forum allowing you to sign up.

What's the matter if there's 2 posts in different sections? They're both well within what should be posted in each forum, and will grab a bigger target audience (ie: As previous rides have shown, 250 forum for the 250's, meeting and events for more experienced riders who'd like to come and help the newbies along.)

It all sounds perfectly reasonable to me, but then again I'm in it for the rides, so that's just me!

[Squiggles]

I lol @ this whole thing.

[gijoe1313]

I lol @ this whole thing.

You and me both mate! :rofl: Don't worry, there will be an onus soon for us all to dot our i's, cross out t's and making with the good grammar and spellink!

[McJim]

Excessive use of force in my opinion - deletion and a pm would have done the job.

I agree it shouldn't have been posted twice - in fact most of my rides are organised by mobile phone now.

It's a shame. But there's nothing we can do about it.

Once I have enough phone numbers in my phone I'll probably leave KB for good since it doesn't make me laugh any more and there are plenty other websites with more accurate data resources.

[zeocen]

Incoming PM with my number hehe

[Hitcher]

Excessive use of force in my opinion - deletion and a pm would have done the job.

But let's not get the facts get in the way of indignation.

[devnull]

If a topic is of special interest to a particular group, I see nothing wrong with cross-posting it i.e. to both sections. There is no technical reason for not allowing this. vBulletin isn't resource hungry, and the back end database isn't going to filled up by the occasional cross-post.

Server logs will consume more space than the odd post...

[McJim]

Incoming PM with my number hehe

Matt - you've already got my number from that day we went out to Kaiaua.

[Donor]

But let's not get the facts get in the way of indignation.

And let's not let common sense and decency get in the way of arrogance.

[babyblade250rr]

people make mistakes no biggie! i'm sure we all have better things to worry over than some ridiculously over reacted double postings

[zeocen]

Matt - you've already got my number from that day we went out to Kaiaua.

Oh damn, I do too! haha, well that's less effort for me then :D
Man that little ride seems like it was years ago, I wish I could see my riding then as opposed to my riding now hehe

[xwhatsit]

I can see both sides of the story here.

I definitely understand not wanting to have two threads on the same topic -- it means that two discussions about the same thing take place, and to keep up with it you have to read both or risk missing out on something. Pain in the arse.

I only read KB with `New Posts', so sub-forums don't mean much to me, but I understand some people tend to hang around certain sub-forums.

My suggestion is this; perhaps you can have one main post somewhere (pick a sub-forum, I don't know) -- and in the other sub-forums where people might be interested you can post a notice saying `come and check out our ride, here's the link', and then have a moderator close the thread so nobody posts in it.

As far as I'm concerned that fixes both problems. Any opinions?

[gijoe1313]

:rofl: I still can't believe this is still spilling out and over... storm in a tea cup. Just seems to me that all it needs was some "uncommon" common sense apparantly!

People make mistakes all the time, after all, if it was a first time then no prob. When it's persistent then it's a problem. After all being a teacher, I deal with this sort of thing on a daily basis! :pinch: Just takes a little word rather than a massive over-reaction.

Its when people think they are only in the right and not acknowledging that one could have over-reacted or make a mistake that arrogance, sheer obstinancy and "I am right. You are wrong" mentality makes it a greater issue.

[breakaway]

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tbh.

[Ixion]

Taking the "it's a ride so it should be in M&E" logic to its logical conclusion, you would end up abolishing Club 250. Because there is , almost by definition, nothing that could be posted about 250s that could not fit into one of the general forums.

The whole point about Club 250 is that it is a CLUB. Read the blurb at the top of the 'Club' forum. It says:

"Have your own private or public club forum, moderatored by it's own members. Contact the admin to have it created."

So why does that not happen? Forcing 250 specific stuff into general forums would destroy the Club 250. Which would be a bad thing. I think the Club 250 serves a valuable purpose, not least being to somewhat counteract the impression in some quarters that 250s are a sort of second rate bike, that people only ride because they are not allowed to ride a bigger one.

I miss my 250. And once I get an Aprilia, we'll see if 250s are second rate.

Leave Club 250 alone

[McJim]

I miss my 250. And once I get an Aprilia, we'll see if 250s are second rate.

Leave Club 250 alone

Judging by the way you handle the Uberfahrter in the twisties you'll be very very quick on an RS250.