Maverick 250 ride 5/8/07 [Archive]

Maverick

23rd July 2007, 18:32

Greetings 250 riders,
For those who were not riding last year, Myself and McJim organized a series of rides aimed at 250cc riders who were on their learners or restricted licenses.
The goal was to provide a safe but challenging environment for newer bikers to learn skills and gain experience on the open road and to meet other bikers at a similar level.

This ride will be a nice run out through the country, with a lunch stop on the way, more details to come shortly.

It is not "limited" specifically to 250cc bikes, (previous "graduates" and others are more then welcome) but please be aware that we will be going at a sensible pace.

STARTS BP BOTANY DOWNS (CHAPEL RD) 10AM SUNDAY

If you want to sign up for the ride to be sent details you can do so here:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2007-8-5&e=1331&c=1

I hope that we will see a few old faces and a few new ones,

Mav :cool:

UPDATE: A few people have asked "how learner friendly is learner friendly"
A few general guide lines that we suggest are: (in descending importance)

1) You be comfortable riding your bike in a variety of everyday traffic situations.

2) You have a full set of protective gear. You learn by experimenting, sometimes people push too far, Good gear can make the difference between getting up and riding on and calling an ambulance.

3) You are confident and comfortable with your bike and could theoretically ride comfortably at 100kph if the situation required you to do so (not advocating breeching license conditions, simply illustrating confidence and skill levels that would be safe for open road riding).

4) You know how to use engine braking to help slow your bike before entering corners

5) You have ridden on wet roads and in the rain before.

gijoe1313

23rd July 2007, 18:58

W00t! Time for the rides to arise phoenix like and hopefully dispel the winter blues away! Will be there with bells on, a dictionary for the spellink and a blue hi-vis vest for the UN like line we have to tread!

Crikey! I didn't know how to do this here Calendar thing ... guess I need to work out this feature to avoid more un-necessary hulla-balloo when trying to make the good peace riding for the perfect understanding of newbie, small cc rides! :yes:

Sleepr

23rd July 2007, 19:06

I am in, hopefully its a sunny day :)

Maverick

23rd July 2007, 19:10

I am in, hopefully its a sunny day :)

You obviously haven't heard the legend of My Weather Genie! :sunny:

zeocen

23rd July 2007, 20:55

I'm thinking I'll be there rain hail or shine, I haven't been on a group ride in yonks, and I'll have my new helmet by then, so I can really give it a good test!

McJim

23rd July 2007, 21:04

Nearer the time I will see if I can manage to get out of the house. Dunno if a little red Ducati will keep up with those nimble 2 fiddies!

Donor

23rd July 2007, 21:18

INFRACT MAVERICK!

Oh sorry, knee JERK reaction...

tide

23rd July 2007, 21:27

Woohoo... been a while since I've been on one of them... will know closer to the time but put my name down in the mean time...

Cr1MiNaL

23rd July 2007, 21:29

harro, can i plod along too? I'm no hoon !! :yes:

disenfranchised

23rd July 2007, 21:56

Would this be starting out east, at some ridiculously early time of the morning?

I'd be really keen to get out on a 250 ride. I kept meaning to go last year but had a problem with the early start, and how the start was on the complete opposite side of town.

Donor

23rd July 2007, 22:02

zeocen

23rd July 2007, 22:08

I am all for starting a little later in the day.
disenfranchised brings up a good point, I like his way of thinking! :zzzz::zzzz::zzzz::zzzz:

Maverick

24th July 2007, 07:34

The start time will be about normal of 10am, which isnt really that early. If you leave it any later then a) you dont get lunch at lunchtime, and b) you dont get back till later.

Grahameeboy

24th July 2007, 08:05

harro, can i plod along too? I'm no hoon !! :yes:

Geeze Raj, you up for anything these days:gob:.....make sure you have changed that Calcutta licence of yours first eh..:dodge:

Cr1MiNaL

24th July 2007, 10:19

Geeze Raj, you up for anything these days:gob:.....make sure you have changed that Calcutta licence of yours first eh..:dodge:

lol yea GB I like nicely paced rides too, plus any excuse ig goon enuf for me to jump on the 6 n ride. I did my overseas conversion yesterday, so ive got my full nz now , all good :)

Grahameeboy

24th July 2007, 10:40

lol yea GB I like nicely paced rides too, plus any excuse ig goon enuf for me to jump on the 6 n ride. I did my overseas conversion yesterday, so ive got my full nz now , all good :)

Good Boy...............:rockon:

zeocen

24th July 2007, 11:30

The start time will be about normal of 10am, which isnt really that early. If you leave it any later then a) you dont get lunch at lunchtime, and b) you dont get back till later.

10am is a good time, not too early, not too late.
Some crazy person once said they'd come to my house to pick me up for a ride at 8:30am, suggesting that there was infact an 8:30am. :gob:

disenfranchised

24th July 2007, 14:04

10am is a good time, not too early, not too late.

10am could be quite doable..Will have to check my schedule

breakaway

24th July 2007, 15:27

Might be able to make it, will let you know earlier to date.

gijoe1313

24th July 2007, 21:48

Sheesh, at this rate, rides will be starting off at 11am! :doh:

WarlockNZ

24th July 2007, 22:08

I'll ride your Duk Jim ... LOL ... you can ride Grace ... LOL ..

Make sure you have your weather genie on standby Mav .. I'll do my best to make this ride.

Sleepr

24th July 2007, 23:35

Would I be able to bring 2 of my newbie mates to this as well? They not members of KB, they dont like any sort of forums -_-

breakaway

24th July 2007, 23:38

Does it have to be on a Sunday? I like a day to recover from my sore body from riding all day before I go back to Uni ;)

0arbreaka

24th July 2007, 23:43

I wouldnt mind coming, but it all depends if the bikes ready in time.

WarlockNZ

24th July 2007, 23:43

I wouldnt mind coming, but it all depends if the bikes ready in time.

get it done man ... get it done ... Mav's rides are famous :)

zeocen

25th July 2007, 01:31

Would I be able to bring 2 of my newbie mates to this as well? They not members of KB, they dont like any sort of forums -_-

I cant speak for the rider organiser but I would safetly say that they'd be most definitely welcome to come along, provided they obey whatever rules are given to them.. and don't mind people bitching about other people on the forums while we eat fish n chups :love:

Maverick

25th July 2007, 07:48

Would I be able to bring 2 of my newbie mates to this as well? They not members of KB, they dont like any sort of forums -_-

Of course, they are welcome as long as they respect the ground rules set out.
This ride will be pretty newbie friendly, the next one I run will be more of a challenge.

Mav :cool:

gijoe1313

25th July 2007, 10:48

Would I be able to bring 2 of my newbie mates to this as well? They not members of KB, they dont like any sort of forums -_-

Heheh until they realise when they run into bike problems and need some helpful advice! :devil2: They just being lazy and getting you to filter the ideas through to them :oi-grr:

They'll get with the program eventually! :msn-wink:

Sleepr

25th July 2007, 11:58

Hahah awesome :). Will let the know, and yes they will stick to the give rules, we are not rebels :P. hehe

Tank

25th July 2007, 17:35

I cant speak for the rider organiser but I would safetly say that they'd be most definitely welcome to come along, provided they obey whatever rules are given to them.. and don't mind people bitching about other people on the forums while we eat fish n chups :love:

Im the newbie - and just registered for the ride. I dont know anyone to bitch about. Is it OK if I make shit up about KB members at random?

C

Cr1MiNaL

25th July 2007, 17:57

Im the newbie - and just registered for the ride. I dont know anyone to bitch about. Is it OK if I make shit up about KB members at random?

C

Welcome to kb, yup its ok, just don't feed the trolls.

Maverick

25th July 2007, 18:56

Im the newbie - and just registered for the ride. I dont know anyone to bitch about. Is it OK if I make shit up about KB members at random?

C

Most people here are pretty good at taking a bit of a verbal poke, once you have been around for a while, or better yet met them in person you will know who will get offended and who wont.

Mav :cool:

Tank

25th July 2007, 19:02

I missed off the smily face - it was said with tounge firmly in cheek. :)

C

delusionz

25th July 2007, 19:10

I missed off the smily face - it was said with tounge firmly in cheek. :)

C

Didn't think you were serious :D

Donor

25th July 2007, 20:16

Im the newbie - and just registered for the ride. I dont know anyone to bitch about. Is it OK if I make shit up about KB members at random?

C

Of course, that's what Zeocen is for :devil2:

McJim

25th July 2007, 20:19

I'll ride your Duk Jim ... LOL ... you can ride Grace ... LOL ..
.

You talkin' to me perchance? The bike is called the Duchess - ain't a duke - would I ride a bloke? Do I look like I kept the Honda? :rofl:

Lucy

25th July 2007, 21:01

You talkin' to me perchance? The bike is called the Duchess - ain't a duke - would I ride a bloke? Do I look like I kept the Honda? :rofl:

The bikes are different than the humans from that country then? It's a little hard to tell the difference with them ones.....:innocent:

McJim

25th July 2007, 21:05

The bikes are different than the humans from that country then? It's a little hard to tell the difference with them ones.....:innocent:
Hmmmm - if that were the case we wouldn't have a larger population than say....New Zealand for example.:rofl:

Donor

25th July 2007, 21:14

You talkin' to me perchance? The bike is called the Duchess - ain't a duke - would I ride a bloke? Do I look like I kept the Honda? :rofl:

Well, you DO walk a little funny when ya leathers are on... your tight, form-fitting leathers...

*shudder*

gijoe1313

25th July 2007, 22:36

Well, you DO walk a little funny when ya leathers are on... your tight, form-fitting leathers...

*shudder*

And why would you be paying so much attention to the breekish nether regions of loined legs of Scotsman? :eek5:

Freudian slip?

zeocen

25th July 2007, 22:42

Im the newbie - and just registered for the ride. I dont know anyone to bitch about. Is it OK if I make shit up about KB members at random?

C

I can fill you in on who's gay and who's doing someone elses mum etc, you'll be up to speed in no time.

gijoe1313

25th July 2007, 22:51

I can fill you in on who's gay and who's doing someone elses mum etc, you'll be up to speed in no time.

More like doing speed when zeocen peddles it to you! :sick: :whistle:

zeocen

25th July 2007, 23:25

Just because I'm from Manurewa doesn't make me a druggie damnit !

The dreadlocks were a phase man, A PHASE!

Donor

26th July 2007, 12:22

I can fill you in on who's gay and who's doing someone elses mum etc, you'll be up to speed in no time.

It's true, it won't take long... ah hell, he's only going to send you a link to his own profile anyway... :dodge:

Maverick

26th July 2007, 18:32

It's true, it won't take long... ah hell, he's only going to send you a link to his own profile anyway... :dodge:

Says the man with the almost pink bike... :dodge:

Lucy

26th July 2007, 21:11

Hmmmm - if that were the case we wouldn't have a larger population than say....New Zealand for example.:rofl:

I was talking about Italy.

Donor

26th July 2007, 21:51

Says the man with the almost pink bike... :dodge:

It's faded bloody red!

Just make sure that sodding Weather Genie :sunny:(tm) of yours is all fired up for next weekend.

Or... ummm... else!

sprag

27th July 2007, 11:53

Maverick

27th July 2007, 16:57

Yep, more then welcome, follow the link at the beginning of the thread and sign yourself up :)

Mav :cool:

Cr1MiNaL

27th July 2007, 18:37

Might be an idea to shift this ride to another day, the weather looks crap, a low moving in from the north bringing in a storm...

http://home.nzcity.co.nz/weather/weatherdetail.aspx?wla=3

So is the ride still on Mr. Weather Genie?

Maverick

27th July 2007, 19:03

Cr1MiNaL

27th July 2007, 19:05

Are you sure you have the right date? This ride is for NEXT weekend.

Mav :cool:

O crap, ma bad, its friday, :bye: :zzzz:

sprag

27th July 2007, 19:05

It's faded bloody red!

Just make sure that sodding Weather Genie :sunny:(tm) of yours is all fired up for next weekend.

Or... ummm... else!

MMMM Donor's always had a thing for pink, (yes pink, beer and porn) waves to Donor,

Donor

27th July 2007, 21:10

MMMM Donor's always had a thing for pink, (yes pink, beer and porn) waves to Donor,

Just remember who will be shepherding your little newbie ass to this ride pal...

:buggerd:

Yeah... that's me behind ya big boy...

sprag

27th July 2007, 21:12

Just remember who will be shepherding your little newbie ass to this ride pal...

:buggerd:

Yeah... that's me behind ya big boy...

Where you should be, *behind*, your only doing that because you want to check out my butt or something :P

duckaddict

28th July 2007, 09:05

woohoo... about time Mav!

it's winter - hope yr weather genie has extra powaars

breakaway

29th July 2007, 22:40

I'm amped! Can't wait till next weekend!

Chickadee

29th July 2007, 22:48

Hmmm how to get babysitters so McJim and Chickadee can both ride? Mmmm will put thinking cap on and hope for the best! I think both of us could do with another ride!

delusionz

30th July 2007, 01:01

Just got a new hyosung gt250r (the mango) but need to break it in, only done 30k's so far, would this ride be ok for that, only just started to ride again after about 7 years of using a car, where do these rides go and where is the start and finish, Still only have the Learners at the moment and need to work on the skills again.

Don't worry mate, even if you do keep it under 4000 rpm like you should, I see a couple ginnys on the ride that'll be keeping you company whether they want to or not :lol:

Hellraiser

30th July 2007, 07:29

Don't worry mate, even if you do keep it under 4000 rpm like you should, I see a couple ginnys on the ride that'll be keeping you company whether they want to or not :lol:

LMFAO ............ Its a Hyosung even at full speed its only going to keep up with the GN's and seeing its a electric mango one it'll strugle to even do that

DUCATI*HARD

30th July 2007, 20:34

see how the weathers going and if i can get up early enough me and parntner might tag along on our bikes for a little.:rockon:

Hellraiser

30th July 2007, 20:51

Who's bringing the support vehicle ...........

seems we're going to have a lot of ducati's and hyosung's needing transport from where they break down.

:yes::yes::yes::scooter::innocent::Punk:

Cr1MiNaL

30th July 2007, 21:38

see how the weathers going and if i can get up early enough me and parntner might tag along on our bikes for a little.:rockon:

U always say that and in the end never turn up ... :shit:

Hanne

30th July 2007, 21:47

I've put my name down for this one, let's hope the weather holds!
(got VERY wet riding from uni to work today!)

ozrobo

30th July 2007, 22:09

i think i will pop down 4 a ride eh duckaddict will c u there c u there 2 raj

Cr1MiNaL

30th July 2007, 22:12

i think i will pop down 4 a ride eh duckaddict will c u there c u there 2 raj

Yup 4 sua buddy, Ill be fabricating myself a nice radiator guard on the friday-saturday before the ride.. lets hope the weather holds up yea..:rockon:

BigRed2007

30th July 2007, 23:46

just pm me the details and I will be there !!!

zeocen

31st July 2007, 00:22

Godamnit !
I thought this was the Sunday next, not this Sunday coming... methinks I will have to do some quick thinking on how to have the day to myself, I'll leave my name signed up just incase... 27 registered, damn, how can you pass that up D:

BigRed2007

31st July 2007, 00:25

come on everyone sign up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

carbacca

31st July 2007, 07:19

Godamnit !
27 registered, damn, how can you pass that up D:

lol yeah 27 but how many are actually 250s.....:innocent::innocent:

DUCATI*HARD

31st July 2007, 08:08

Who's bringing the support vehicle ...........

seems we're going to have a lot of ducati's and hyosung's needing transport from where they break down.

:yes::yes::yes::scooter::innocent::Punk:

the only thing breaking down will be that big ass bus off yours!:gob:

delusionz

31st July 2007, 10:39

I'm a bit iffy here, hope it'll be worth it if I end up coming. has everyone got the pace to confidently ride the speed limits and accelerate hard up to it?

Hellraiser: what the hell are you going to do with a Hayabusa on this ride, You got big rear vision mirrors?

Cr1MiNaL

31st July 2007, 10:42

I'm a bit iffy here, hope it'll be worth it if I end up coming. has everyone got the pace to confidently ride the speed limits and accelerate hard up to it?

Yea Im thinkin the same... wonderin if this is gonna be slow as, gotta atleast b legal aye... gotta respect their rules as well if it is... but then again a few accomplished riders signed up too... so well well tag along and c what happens :yes:

There are atleast 5 quick ones that are enrolled that Ive ridden with b4 so that will be interesting.

This is all relative to how the weather holds up though.

these rides are famous!

gijoe1313

31st July 2007, 10:48

I'm sure Maverick will have something worked out, we've encountered this on previous 250 rides where we just get a "squadron" leader lead the bikers who wish to ride to their class and the main party of L-platers tootle merrily along till we all meet up at the agreed stops.

As for me, I always volunteer for TEC 'cause I'm a right nana! :msn-wink:

Cr1MiNaL

31st July 2007, 11:20

I'll be coming along(pending weather and route) and I'm not a complete nana and I'll try and keep up with ya :scooter:

rofl :bye: :rockon: c u there dude.

(there= waiting for me at the turnoffs...)

BigRed2007

31st July 2007, 15:19

the learners might be slow for now :P but the slow and steady always win :P

plus in a year or two, us L plates will be going up to at least 600 to 800 cc :P so it wont be long:P

Cr1MiNaL

31st July 2007, 15:41

the learners might be slow for now :P but the slow and steady always win :P

plus in a year or two, us L plates will be going up to at least 600 to 800 cc :P so it wont be long:P

Wouldn't personally recommend it... :shit: I rode 250's for 4 years ! :gob: but then, I couldn't afford a bigger bike...:mellow:

breakaway

31st July 2007, 15:46

So what's the rally point :crazy:?

Kiwifire72

31st July 2007, 15:55

What time is the ride????????
where and for how long as I got to book myself into Mercy Hospital by 3pm on sunday afternoon to get ready for my triple By Pass Monday morning
Will I have time to do ride before going to Hospital ?????????
As after that bike and car impounded lol for 6 to 8 weeks

zeocen

31st July 2007, 17:29

I'm sure it hasn't changed re. faster bikes, they'll probably split into groups, leaners, medium and balls to the walls fast. I'll be in the learners myself if I can make it, I like it there, I'm not ready to leave damnit!

Donor

31st July 2007, 18:28

Donor

31st July 2007, 18:34

And for all those newbies who are getting their frilly little panties in a twist about the possibility of some "fast bikers" being there, I offer the following advice.

HARDEN THE FUCK UP!

The fast guys will do THEIR thing, and we lesser able types will do OUR thing.

Anyone that tries to ride above their capabilities will bin, get hurt and trash their bike, and I will make a big point of laughing at them. Lots.

First lesson - NEVER give a shit what others may/do think about you, you are number one and number one is who you look out for.

Right, tirade over for now.

Donor

31st July 2007, 18:50

Ooooh baby I love it when ya get all macho and stuff!! :love:
I'll be at the back of the pack with you :scooter:

Now now... I told you, no special "mentoring" sessions when there are other riders around!

tide

31st July 2007, 18:52

Ooooh baby I love it when ya get all macho and stuff!! :love:
I'll be at the back of the pack with you :scooter:

:Oi: noob are you bringing the 10 or the Duke.... :dodge:just wanna know if you going to sit in 1st or 2nd... :Punk:

El Dopa

31st July 2007, 19:03

Looks like there's a few signed up.

Will be there if the weather behaves.

DMNTD

31st July 2007, 19:03

Meow mofo's

tide

31st July 2007, 19:06

Was gonna give you a chance and bring the ol' RSVR :scooter:
:killingme:rofl::killingme:rofl::killingme:rofl:

yeah right... mind you I'd hear you first...

kiwifruit

31st July 2007, 19:13

Was gonna give you a chance and bring the ol' RSVR :scooter:

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carbacca

31st July 2007, 19:38

i am a n00b....yep

i ride a 250.....yep

i have been riding for a little over 2 months. have been to 3 group rides already. everytime theres been some real monster bikes there as well (hayabusa, triumph spring, big ass cruisers, whiney two strokes) i had fun everytime. you will only get better if you get out there, ride your own ride and have fun doing it.

Leong

31st July 2007, 19:46

........ you will only get better if you get out there, ride your own ride and have fun doing it.

Too right!!!!

Hellraiser

31st July 2007, 19:55

I'm uncomfortable with doing the open road speed limit so i'll just have to ride by myself ........ :bye:

Cr1MiNaL

31st July 2007, 20:06

Looks like Ill be bringin a mate on his GN250 so Ill be rididin with him most of the time, so Ill c u guys at the turnoffs... do wait even if u think we cudn't b any slower. He binned a few weeks ago n is shaken, but weve repaired his bike and its new again ... weeeeee... i love gn2fiddies.

DUCATI*HARD

31st July 2007, 20:51

U always say that and in the end never turn up ... :shit:

well maybe i wont turn up again,
or maybe you just went home.

sprag

31st July 2007, 21:05

good time to say that the weather looks like crap on sunday lol

delusionz

31st July 2007, 21:39

I'll be doing legal speeds, but will be twisting the crap out of my throttle out of corners and from stops. I suspect I'll be tailing the fast guys but leading the slow guys.

gijoe1313

31st July 2007, 21:44

And somewhere... a little L plate waits...

delusionz

31st July 2007, 21:54

And somewhere... a little L plate waits...
Probably in my car (1L,6L hehe), It would just look silly on my bike :P

EJK

1st August 2007, 11:52

So.... honestly where and at what time will this ride begin?
I am REALLY interested in this ride since some GNs are comming along :scooter::yes:

P.S. According to http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=auckland weather, Sunday looks preety bad... Is it still on?

McJim

1st August 2007, 11:57

carbacca

1st August 2007, 11:59

probably the usual KB meetin places

if the ride is heading east towards hunua, meet at BP Botany
if the ride is heading north towards warkworth, meet at BP Dairy Flat
if the ride is heading south towards hamilton, meet at BP Autobahn Papakura
if the ride is heading west towards kumeu, meet at Shell Westgate

but mav hasnt made a decision on it yet?? no idea which way we're heading

EJK

1st August 2007, 11:59

It's just showers. There will be dry patches too apparently.:Punk:

I'll nudge Mav and tell him to send you a PM.

Cheers. BTW this is newbie friendly right? lol

Cr1MiNaL

1st August 2007, 15:35

It's just showers. There will be dry patches too apparently.:Punk:

I'll nudge Mav and tell him to send you a PM.

Young hoon when its dry, L plate rider when its wet.... just got a new front tire too.... :bye:

Maverick

1st August 2007, 19:33

Hi Guys, put this at the Thread Header but re printing it here, Hope it clarifies any confusion, Mav :cool:

UPDATE: A few people have asked "how learner friendly is learner friendly"
A few general guide lines that we suggest are: (in descending importance)

1) You be comfortable riding your bike in a variety of everyday traffic situations.

2) You have a full set of protective gear. You learn by experimenting, sometimes people push too far, Good gear can make the difference between getting up and riding on and calling an ambulance.

3) You are confident and comfortable with your bike and could theoretically ride comfortably at 100kph if the situation required you to do so (not advocating breeching license conditions, simply illustrating confidence and skill levels that would be safe for open road riding).

4) You know how to use engine braking to help slow your bike before entering corners

5) You have ridden on wet roads and in the rain before.

kiwifruit

1st August 2007, 19:36

Me and Ben will come give yous the learn

Cr1MiNaL

1st August 2007, 19:42

Me and Ben will come give yous the learn

Are u bringin electric leg? rofl :yeah::scratch:

kiwifruit

1st August 2007, 19:43

Are u bringin electric leg? rofl :yeah::scratch:

you'd like that, wouldn't ya!!

Cr1MiNaL

1st August 2007, 19:45

you'd like that, wouldn't ya!!

I laughed my arse off the first time I heard u named her that ! lol :P:sunny:

edit: might have to bring my trusty ear plugs 4 sua in that case !

puddy

1st August 2007, 21:53

Maverick

2nd August 2007, 01:03

This is a bit like Amway. Ya have to sign up first before anyone will give you the info. Sorry....part Amway, part Masons, part GC........well hoping it's GC and not BS Rally.:rofl: I crack myself up!

Its for a couple of reasons,
1) it gives us as the organisers an indication of the number of people likely to attend and the skill level of those riders, that allows us to plan a suitable route.
2) It allows you to see who else is interested in coming on the ride, to catch up with people you havent seen for a while or who you havent had the chance to meet yet,
3) there have been instances in the past of ride details being posted up and having police receptions waiting along the route. While these 250 rides are at a slow pace and dont break the law it makes some people more comfortable not having the details broadcast to anyone who can read the site.

Mav :cool:

delusionz

2nd August 2007, 10:26

Learner friendly = Dare devils with licenses limiting them to a piddly quarter of a litre :p :lol:

McJim

2nd August 2007, 10:42

I've never heard of people referring to the RS250 as piddly. :rofl:

WarlockNZ

2nd August 2007, 18:48

I've never heard of people referring to the RS250 as piddly. :rofl:

How about 2fer or twofiddi ??? hmmmm

BigRed2007

2nd August 2007, 19:09

Waiting on the INfo and hopefully we will have a great SUNNY weekend!

breakaway

2nd August 2007, 19:16

Yeah cmon Mav. I've got people interested in coming, if you wait till the last minute they'll end up making other plans :dodge:

@BigRed - http://home.nzcity.co.nz/weather/weatherdetail.aspx?wla=3
Weather looks good mate.

Donor

2nd August 2007, 19:23

Yeah cmon Mav. I've got people interested in coming, if you wait till the last minute they'll end up making other plans :dodge:

Pfft... it's a ride, it doesn't matter where - thank god I own shares in the HTFU pill making company, I'm making a killing at the moment!

Brett

2nd August 2007, 19:46

I might be keen to come along and bring up the rear of the group...or lead the front...depends on who turns up on the day I suppose

ozrobo

2nd August 2007, 21:18

im not bothered where im just keen on a ride somewhere and to make a lot of noise on the t rex

Donor

2nd August 2007, 21:27

im not bothered where im just keen on a ride somewhere and to make a lot of noise on the t rex

You have been blinged.

Everyone else, hang your heads in SHAME!

McJim

2nd August 2007, 21:35

breakaway

2nd August 2007, 21:39

Yeah that's all good, I couldn't care less about how far the ride is :ride: or where we are going, all I want to know is the rally point and time :niceone:

carbacca

2nd August 2007, 21:40

as long as the start time and rally point info reaches me before the ride (could be 7am on sunday for all i care, i am always online and will probably check back here before i leave) i dont care

delusionz

2nd August 2007, 22:08

Yeah that's all good, I couldn't care less about how far the ride is :ride: or where we are going, all I want to know is the rally point and time :niceone:

Hey bro, I think I saw you ride through Mt Eden shops today, I was driving my cage so I didn't nod (would look funny) but I've never seen an orange cibby before so I assume yours is a one of a kind and it was you, was it?

Luckylegs

2nd August 2007, 22:24

Quote:
Originally Posted by breakaway
Yeah that's all good, I couldn't care less about how far the ride is or where we are going, all I want to know is the rally point and time

Hey bro, I think I saw you ride through Mt Eden shops today, I was driving my cage so I didn't nod (would look funny) but I've never seen an orange cibby before so I assume yours is a one of a kind and it was you, was it?

and... if there is only one then I saw you to, riding past AUT on Wakefield street in the city. I didnt nod either since I was at my desk at work on the 11th floor over the road and that would just be silly.

Maverick

2nd August 2007, 22:24

Maverick doesn't like posting the start or destination of his rides on account of his belief that some riders won't come at all if it's posted coz the Police will turn up to trap us into doing 71kph with our L plates on.

I think we need a vote.

Might do this when I get home.

All those who want to know in advance and PUBLICLY where the ride starts from and finishes.

All those who would rather know in a clandestine fashion.

I think Maverick will get a surprise.

Actually it has more to do with the fact that I don't log in to KB very often for more then two minutes at a time, but for those who are impatient,

Starting at BP BOTANY DOWNS (Chapel Rd) at 10am Sunday.

Mav :cool:

gijoe1313

2nd August 2007, 23:00

I think Maverick is channelling his nick too much :mellow: He's taken to doing Tom Cruise mode and just turning up in the nick of time on a bike, with his aviators and suave fighter pilot manners! :lol:

That's a big 10-4 buddy, I'll hang back on your six and watch for bandits coming outta the sun!

breakaway

2nd August 2007, 23:08

Hey bro, I think I saw you ride through Mt Eden shops today, I was driving my cage so I didn't nod (would look funny) but I've never seen an orange cibby before so I assume yours is a one of a kind and it was you, was it?

Probably. What time?

delusionz

2nd August 2007, 23:10

Probably. What time?

Some time around 11.30am?

gijoe1313

2nd August 2007, 23:11

breakaway

2nd August 2007, 23:13

Some time around 11.30am?

Yeah, probably me :scooter:

zeocen

3rd August 2007, 00:48

Actually it has more to do with the fact that I don't log in to KB very often for more then two minutes at a time, but for those who are impatient,

Starting at BP BOTANY DOWNS (Chapel Rd) at 10am Sunday.

Mav :cool:

Oh gollygosh I hope everyone has gone home by then and I can make a quick dash for it to the BP ! If I make it I may be a zombie throughout the ride, using all my energy for riding and then rest stops for ... dying... hehe

gijoe1313

3rd August 2007, 12:06

Oh gollygosh I hope everyone has gone home by then and I can make a quick dash for it to the BP ! If I make it I may be a zombie throughout the ride, using all my energy for riding and then rest stops for ... dying... hehe

And how is this different from all the over times you've gone out on rides? :whistle:

breakaway

3rd August 2007, 17:39

Some time around 11.30am?

Haha yep. Actually met up today. Nice to put a face to the name.

and... if there is only one then I saw you to, riding past AUT on Wakefield street in the city. I didnt nod either since I was at my desk at work on the 11th floor over the road and that would just be silly.

That was probably me too :p

Looks like my bike's pretty unique.

dave o

3rd August 2007, 17:40

hey. im pretty interested. any other 2 strokes? my tzr 3ma isnt going but i have an rgv150 i can bring :) how long does one expect the ride to take? dave

McJim

3rd August 2007, 19:31

Probably about 3 hours riding all up. 2 Smokers more than welcome....in fact revered in many cases. I'm tossing up the idea of borrowing my wife's RG150 for the day (on account of the fact I can ride it faster than I can ride my Ducati!)

Fub@r

3rd August 2007, 20:51

Sunday is looking fairly good :)

http://www.metvuw.co.nz/forecast/forecast.php?type=rain&region=nzni&noofdays=3

gijoe1313

3rd August 2007, 22:52

hey. im pretty interested. any other 2 strokes? my tzr 3ma isnt going but i have an rgv150 i can bring :) how long does one expect the ride to take? dave

ooh I may be persuaded to take Daisy out for a pootle! :whistle:

babyblade250rr

4th August 2007, 15:23

any update from the weather genie???

McJim

4th August 2007, 16:05

any update from the weather genie???
Occasional showers only now - downgraded and getting drier the closer we get to the event! You are witnessing the power of the Weather Genie :sunny:TM

Donor

4th August 2007, 16:49

All Hail the Weather Genie :sunny:(TM)

Cr1MiNaL

4th August 2007, 16:49

Going from the way the clouds were menacingly threatning to piss down today, without a shower in Albany since morning... tomoros not looking as bad...

http://yahooxtra.net.nz/weather/0,,14788-0-Auckland,00.html
http://home.nzcity.co.nz/weather/weatherdetail.aspx?wla=3

cud b better but hey were in the middle of winter... tomorrow will not be a day ud want to do anything out of the ordinary... Ill be bringin a mate and maybe a pillon n will b more of a nanna than I usually am. :yes: RockOn.

puddy

4th August 2007, 17:18

Cr1MiNaL

4th August 2007, 17:23

That's because it's a Suzuki!:yes:

rofl :shutup: :dodge:

McJim

4th August 2007, 17:24

That's because it's a Suzuki!:yes:

Bling for the obvious. :rofl: I suppose I asked for that eh?

puddy

4th August 2007, 17:32

Yeah ya did. Sorry.:rolleyes:

Maverick

4th August 2007, 18:26

If someone can remember to bring a camera that would be cool, be nice to get some pics to post up afterwards.

Mav :cool:

zeocen

4th August 2007, 23:03

If I manage to catch up with you guys I'll bring my camera for some pics, and maybe bring my velcro and foam for a video blog helmet point of view ;P

*wonders how many will burn him at the stake for safety*

gijoe1313

4th August 2007, 23:06

zeocen

4th August 2007, 23:12

I promise I won't film any male biker ass

this time

gijoe1313

4th August 2007, 23:15

I promise I won't film any male biker ass

this time

:gob: You have been doing it surreptitiously before? :sick: Will your shennigans know no bounds and your Freudian lacklustre tittilations be finally demarcated for all and sundry to be wary of? Zounds!

puddy

4th August 2007, 23:24

:gob: You have been doing it surreptitiously before? :sick: Will your shennigans know no bounds and your Freudian lacklustre tittilations be finally demarcated for all and sundry to be wary of? Zounds!
...translation..........FAG!

gijoe1313

4th August 2007, 23:27

...translation..........FAG!

Ooh, so harsh to call one a practitioner of an alternative lifestyle such a loaded stereotypical word! :msn-wink:

Brace yourselves against an inviolable object lest your nether regions are made to connect with undesired attention mayhap?

Squiggles

4th August 2007, 23:46

Enjoy the ride guys, hope the weather holds for you (next weekend is set to be a beaut if the long range is anything to go by)
I wont be along, have got another 300 DRY ROAD ONLY k's to get out of my rear, thing was pretty slippery in the damp even with tread... + the assignments are all over me :bye:

Enjoy & keep the rubber side down :scooter:

Winter

5th August 2007, 01:20

Hey everyone, was gonna join you, but now it looks like I have to get my bike running again before I can ride! I'll spend the day in my garage fixing and wishing i was riding! :'(

gijoe1313

5th August 2007, 07:15

Ahh looks like a fine day for some riding! :yes: Gonna be meeting up with Donor and riding out to sheperd in some lost sheep from New Market and then back to our neck of the woods and bringing in the Toe-range crew it seems! :woohoo:

Pre-ride ride! :yes:

carbacca

5th August 2007, 07:43

where and when in newmarket?? i got a couple of sheep to shepherd too

Dealer

5th August 2007, 07:59

Hope you dont mind a big bus tagging along, technically i'm still a learner.
Last KB ride i did was McJim's on my 250, so i need the practice.
Also, it's looking like a beautiful day out there.

Cr1MiNaL

5th August 2007, 08:03

so were meeting 10 am bp chapel road aye, jus chekikin im bringin along a learner friend... wait 4 me fs !

Grahameeboy

5th August 2007, 08:05

You guys lucky with the weather after yesterday.....enjoy.

babyblade250rr

5th August 2007, 08:14

so were meeting 10 am bp chapel road aye, jus chekikin im bringin along a learner friend... wait 4 me fs !

hey is the bp just past botany pak n save on the left hand corner of the road that will take you to whitford??

cherz

Cr1MiNaL

5th August 2007, 08:23

hey is the bp just past botany pak n save on the left hand corner of the road that will take you to whitford??

cherz

If i rem correctly u take the pakuranga exit.. keep in the left lane all the way past the bridge right onto te rarako rd all the way to the end, then its the bp to the left of the lights... I always miss it meh just follow some bike...
C u there.

breakaway

5th August 2007, 08:29

My bike is leaking oil from the drain plug

D:

McJim

5th August 2007, 09:26

hey is the bp just past botany pak n save on the left hand corner of the road that will take you to whitford??

cherz

I think you're talking about Chapel Road heading north from Dannemora towards Whitford Road....so yes, that's the one...Behind K-Mart.

McJim

5th August 2007, 09:41

Hope you dont mind a big bus tagging along, technically i'm still a learner.
Last KB ride i did was McJim's on my 250, so i need the practice.
Also, it's looking like a beautiful day out there.

All Welcome dude.

dave o

5th August 2007, 14:59

i finished work at 9:35 which was about 15 minutes too late :( what time did you guys leave? i was about to go and see if anyone was still at the bp, but thought i would have missed you guys anyway so i just stayed home. the weather was pretty good too. i wish i could have gone >.<

Hellraiser

5th August 2007, 15:04

Hey thanks for organising the ride Mav pity you couldn't continue on with us all....... the weather was graet (most of the time) however the roads were as slipery as hell.

Those 3 or 4 of you who binned hope your all ok and that the bikes will be back on the road soon.

Bring on the next one :scooter: :scooter:

delusionz

5th August 2007, 15:43

DAMN!!!!!! That was a blast!!!!!! And I thought I knew my bike! Boy did it have a treat reserved for me just past my usual no-go zone

sprag

5th August 2007, 16:07

A big thanks to the farmer that helped with all the bin bikes, and his wife makes good coffee, it was a good ride up to that evil part of the road.

McJim

5th August 2007, 16:14

A few things to learn from today.

1/ Way pointers - please wait IN FRONT of the the junction directing the ride. (leaders can help by being very specific with their pointing!)
2/ When there's a bin park in a visible place or even better off the road altogether.
3/ Again when there's a bin have riders placed a good 50m and 100m before the site of the accident to slow the traffic down.

Apart from that - It was a good ride for most - some people rode further than others :rofl: and glad that the bins only resulted in flesh wounds and some bent bits.

Do we need to organise a box of beer for the farmer?

Big thanks to:

Gremlin for leading Group 1
Maverick for leading Group 2
Gijoe1313 for TEC 1
Donor for TEC 2
jtzzr for TEC 2on the way home
gijoe1313 for lead 2 way home

And thanks to Mav for organising and everyone else for turning up :)

Cheers.

carbacca

5th August 2007, 16:24

great ride, sad to hear people have binned it, not a great experience but you sure do learn from it. hope it hasnt scared you off, just get back up and back at it again.

3rd time in 3 weeks i've been out that way to kaiaua. took a little detour when i left the group at clevedon out to maraetai, great scenery out that way

can the next ride be out towards a different direction?? north or west or south would be great :P

breakaway

5th August 2007, 16:39

Can we please get some details on what happend to those people who binned it? Also how exactly did it happen?

delusionz

5th August 2007, 16:43

A couple snaps from me showing some bikes

tide

5th August 2007, 16:47

Hi Guys... thanks for the ride... sorry to hear about the guys that binned... I believe they are ok just some sore bikes... here are some pics of the ride...

McJim

5th August 2007, 16:47

Can we please get some details on what happend to those people who binned it? Also how exactly did it happen?

That's for the people who binned to mention. Unwritten site rule. You must have the binner's permission before you reveal details.

No-one was hurt badly though.

tide

5th August 2007, 16:50

some more pics

tide

5th August 2007, 16:55

one for McJim to dribble over... :dodge:

tide

5th August 2007, 16:57

last lot of pics... :scooter:

carbacca

5th August 2007, 17:07

couple of pics from me

great to see the multiplying swarm of hobag gt250's. 4 red, 2 mangos (one being a comet) i counted.

delusionz

5th August 2007, 17:11

By the way, I thought this was a 250 ride?? Was shocked at all the big guys that turned up

gijoe1313

5th August 2007, 17:14

Well, cheers to one and all for turning up - once again, let me express my hope that all bikers are well and nothing too serious. Bikes can be fixed! :yes:

Just got home... I think I got another ride in from the BP after having a good natter with Zapf, Gremlin and Leong (a surreal conversation which I scarily understood!)

Sorry for holding anyone up, but our group was taking it's time and pulling over to let (irate) cagers past! :sweatdrop. John our TEC did a marvellous job on his Blackbird, as it turns out worked perfectly! He would zip past the fledgings and give me a toot to tell me that we were gumming up the works (70kph will do that on an open road! :sweatdrop)

Great turn-out and kudos to Zapf and all others who stepped up to the plate after the unfortunate series of events. A bit of rain and some confusion over ride routes was not enough to stop most enjoying a bit of nosh at the Kaiaua local chippy! :yes"

Thanks McJim for doing the doubling back to see if I had planted another hondaberry or went for a swim (no fear!) was funny watching him on the duchess splash several cagers as he blatted past them (it throws up a heap of water!) :lol:

Righto, guess I better organise one of my classic pootling rides so people can get saddle sore! :devil2:

Leong

5th August 2007, 17:53

Another interesting KB event!! Thanks to Mav, McJim and co for organising. A big turnout, highly variable road conditions, from very clean dry road to wet mossy roads, slips, bit of gravel mid corner in places - that most made it home in one piece was quite commendable.

We did the long route.... Kaiaua loop with a detour to do the Hunua gorge to Papakura. Quite a nice road - Hunua to Papakura, to have to do twice!!

Good to catch up with a few KBers I haven't seen in a while and meet some new faces!!!

babyblade250rr

5th August 2007, 17:59

Great ride thanks to all involved thanks to the guys who directed and to thoose that kept and eye on us from the back,

can wait for the next ride it so much fun

cherz

Cr1MiNaL

5th August 2007, 18:10

Cheers Mav, Jimmy, Justin, Gremlin, and all the others who helped lead/tail the ride and those who helped the learners... I saw some good riding all around today... v surprised that a few people kept up at all... pity about the bins... I personally only heard about them. It would be a good idea for those who did drop their bikes to post up what happened, and how they reacted, for the benefit of other riders, new and experienced alike. Always helps. Again good riding. Pity about my busted left fork. Nice smooth lines gremlin and the dude on the gixxer, lame wheelie attempts though rofl.
Chur.

jtzzr

5th August 2007, 18:34

My friends I had a blast ,except for me ,Lucky Legs and Hong standing in the rain waiting for no-one apparently ( at least we got to have a nosh before the hooligans turned up at Kaiaua ,haha). As for being TEC ,was`nt as bad as I thought it would be ,The 250 guys were awesome all of them ,they really wanted to learn and they were taking corners alot better by the end of the ride ( dudes forgotten your names please pm me to remind me).Thanks all ( except for that shifty bugger from Toeranga (trouble ,nothing but trouble )Big Thanks Again guys:rockon::rockon:

irishlad

5th August 2007, 19:00

Fantastic ride. Many thanks for organising . See you all soon.

Mom

5th August 2007, 19:04

last lot of pics... :scooter:

Fantastic pics Tide, sounds like you guys had a great time today. Pity we could not join you. A firm, unavoidable and enjoyable 50th birthday party made it impossible!

Must say though am shocked to see a KB mentor, riding no helmet, no gloves and grinning for the camera's pleasure. I always thought that mentors were supposed to advise and guide people. Not entirely certain that this shows good mentoring skills! Specially on a 250 themed ride aimed at the new riders among us. Good on you Crashe (NOT)

jtzzr

5th August 2007, 19:12

Must say though am shocked to see a KB mentor, riding no helmet, no gloves and grinning for the camera's pleasure. I always thought that mentors were supposed to advise and guide people. Not entirely certain that this shows good mentoring skills! Specially on a 250 themed ride aimed at the new riders among us. Good on you Crashe (NOT)[/QUOTE]

She stalled it at the BP too .

jtzzr

5th August 2007, 19:14

Waiting for luckylegs to post ,:shit::yes:

Dealer

5th August 2007, 19:33

Thanks Guys. Great ride, we got 4 seasons of weather in one day, but it was all good. Sympathies to the guys who binned it, i was taking extreme care not to do the same myself. Looking forward to the next ride.
Cheers Ian

delusionz

5th August 2007, 19:42

Good on you Crashe (NOT)

She was standing up on the pegs too! But don't worry, us learners & 250s have mastered that trick long ago :laugh:

Donor

5th August 2007, 19:52

She was standing up on the pegs too! But don't worry, us learners & 250s have mastered that trick long ago :laugh:

Groovy - well, as this topic has been moved to its own thread now in General, can we move discussing it to there and get back to the breakdown of today's ride?

Chairs.

ehab2weelr

5th August 2007, 20:02

hey riders, nice ride 2day 4 most of u, i was the gsx250 that ended up in the ditch, yea i binned my bike, hahahah, but she still runs sweet just a bit of cosmatic damage that shal be fixed soon, n cant wait to atack that corner again. hahah im fine 4 those who where concerned, big thanks to all those who stayed back and helped us.

duckaddict

5th August 2007, 20:28

As usual - another fantastic 250 ride, thanks to Mav et al.

I thought we all did very well - both new and experience riders. To those who binned at that corner; it could have happened to anyone, it was bone dry before the corner and yet wet and slippery as hell just into the bend, not to mention it was slightly off camber.

Amazing the number of new faces (which is good), and nice meeting old faces too (well almost everyone:shifty:).

thanks for the pics Tide and Cabacca.

cheers

:ride:

Luckylegs

5th August 2007, 20:37

Waiting for luckylegs to post ,:shit::yes:

Hey JTZZR... Wasnt gonna do it, but hey here I am... (posting) :rockon:

More generally, Great ride today and awesome to meet more KBers. Seems everywhere I go though, confusion and "lostness" seems to follow. Oh well enjoyed the ride even if it was just with the three of us on the way down.

Thanks to the organisers and hope those who binned are OK.

klyong82

5th August 2007, 20:49

Hi all,

Here are some of the pics taken from my camera. Was a great ride. Good to hear that the riders who binned their bikes are ok.

Sleepr

5th August 2007, 21:06

It was a meeeeeeeeeeeean (means good) ride, thats all -_- hehehe

Learnt a lot, got lots to learn, looking forward to the next ride :)

gijoe1313

5th August 2007, 21:07

I'm lovely and you know it pretty boy :sunny:

Nice wee pootle about roads I either had never ridden or roads I hadn't ridden in YEARS.

you don't ride mate ... you fly like a bat outta hell! :gob: not to worry, I'm sure there are roads around the Toe-ranges, which I need to get out and see!

So watch out for a cackling molten red camo idjit riding near you! :innocent:

Cr1MiNaL

5th August 2007, 21:20

you don't ride mate ... you fly like a bat outta hell! :gob: not to worry, I'm sure there are roads around the Toe-ranges, which I need to get out and see!

So watch out for a cackling molten red camo idjit riding near you! :innocent:

bat 4m hell on steroids and modified wings I might add...:yes:

Cr1MiNaL

5th August 2007, 21:21

Donor

5th August 2007, 21:29

coz I don't c him coming until he flies by me throwing rocks at my bike along the way...

Wasn't stones... it was molten rubber from his now b0rked rear tire... bwahaha...

discotex

5th August 2007, 21:38

I was going to bail cause my back was sore but decided to take some HTFU pills and just get on with it. What can I say... So many bikes.. Brilliant day. Count me in for the next one! :yes:

I rarely get south of the city so had no idea where the hell I was the whole time. Nothing like rediscovering some of NZ's wonderful countryside on the bike. Great mix of twisty/straight road. Nice work guys.

Here was me thinking I was going to be too hot hahah! Was glad I left the thermal liner in the jacket when the rain started pissing down on us.

I thought heading back was the best part of the ride. Riding with that small group of quicker slow guys was great. Stopping for pointers on line before it got gnarly was really helpful too. Didn't catch your name mate but that first stop was well timed and I know it helped me with those tighter corners.

Anyone got a map of where we went? Would love to know where I was and how to get back there!

Thanks Mav and everyone else involved in putting the ride together today.

Maverick

5th August 2007, 22:27

Thanks to all those who turned up today, it was great to see a lot of old faces and a lot of new ones,

I really enjoy organizing 250 rides, I think its great to provide an opportunity for less experienced riders to get out there and meet other riders and pick up new skills.

However nothing is harder then having to pick someone up off the side of the road. We thankfully have had very few bins on our rides (6 in a year, 3 of which were today), but every time we do, McJim and Myself both torture ourselves with the question "Was it our fault for organizing the ride?" "What could we have done to prevent this?" "Should we continue doing these rides?"

The answer in the end is that a lot of people gain so much from these rides and we try to reduce the risks as much as possible, but at the end of the day we ride motorbikes, and in that freedom and independence is an inherent amount of risk.

What can we all do to help?

Remember these are rides aimed at beginners and people who want a nice casual ride, if you want to come you are welcome to fit in but you need to understand that is the aim of the ride.

Please listen to us when we are giving instructions, they are for your own safety and the safety of the people around you,

This is not a rant at specific people or saying that people should not come on these rides, just reminding people what they are intended for in the hopes that we can create a safer environment for all of us.

Mav :cool:

Sleepr

5th August 2007, 22:33

You are top man, mav :). Really enjoyed the ride, my first ever 250 ride, that too on open road.

danb

5th August 2007, 22:39

Saw some of you guys on the back end on the trail today while driving the cage back from a mates place in clevedon. - Only could have guessed it was a KB ride... Pity I was not out there today but the bike is in the shop. :doh:

McJim

5th August 2007, 22:40

Didn't realise that corner was dodgy - guess it's coz I know those roads and subconciously adjust my line to avoid the worst of the camber.

Yep - I feel shitty and awful that we organised a ride and invited people out and 3 of 'em binned.

I didn't see any mad overtaking though. Mind you I spent a lot of the day riding on my own looking for everyone. (Yeah, I managed to lose about 15 riders...............again!) :rofl:

Glad the binners have all reported in as walking wounded and pleased to hear that most of the bikes can be fixed with a wee bit of effort and a hammer.

Donor

5th August 2007, 22:45

Mind you I spent a lot of the day riding on my own looking for everyone. (Yeah, I managed to lose about 15 riders...............again!) :rofl:

Oh dear, more miles for you... poor sod!

gijoe1313

5th August 2007, 22:54

Yes, can well appreciate the sentiment McJim and Maverick have posted. I was feeling quite concerned for one and all, especially leading off the slower 250 riders. Just a few hairy moments, which had my heart ticking - but thank the biker gods for their small mercies!

Good on those who take the lead and do the things so others can enjoy the event. Riding as a group has its own risks and rewards - but we are bikers. We know this already and work to reduce that risk and still have that freedom we love on the open road.

Now, lessons learnt, events and actions to reflect on - and ... where shall we be riding our two wheels of freedom to next? :woohoo:

Zapf

5th August 2007, 23:22

I thought heading back was the best part of the ride. Riding with that small group of quicker slow guys was great. Stopping for pointers on line before it got gnarly was really helpful too. Didn't catch your name mate but that first stop was well timed and I know it helped me with those tighter corners.

think that would be me. Glad someone found it useful. I'll give a few more talks next time :)

Yes, can well appreciate the sentiment McJim and Maverick have posted.

I think the main problem is the size of the beginner group. Since some parts of the road are not straight forward and requires a combination of skills to ride thru them. Us experienced riders have that grind into part of our riding and we don't even think about it, but it is not as apparent to the beginners. On the way back, I was purposely slowing down way before the corner to compress the group (6 of them) so they all slow down to a reasonable speed before reaching the tight corner. Also to some of the beginner riders the issue is the changing conditions. E.g dry good roads and then suddenly changing to wet and slippery the next. They need to learn to watch out for them and react before they get themselves into a panic.

jtzzr

5th August 2007, 23:30

Hey JTZZR... Wasnt gonna do it, but hey here I am... (posting) :rockon:

More generally, Great ride today and awesome to meet more KBers. Seems everywhere I go though, confusion and "lostness" seems to follow. Oh well enjoyed the ride even if it was just with the three of us on the way down.

Thanks to the organisers and hope those who binned are OK.

Nice to see you posting mate and yes I do remember your name Ryan, hahaha

delusionz

5th August 2007, 23:44

twinkle

6th August 2007, 08:22

Thanks for the ride, awesome fun :sunny: looking forward to the next one.

Cr1MiNaL

6th August 2007, 08:54

i must say, well done to the two other guys who had balls but no power (cbr250rr & cagiva 125) for tailing the big bikes and forming a middle group with me

Yea you 3 rode exceptionally well :scooter:

Lula

6th August 2007, 09:21

Thank you Mav for organising this ride - I had a blast. It's good to get out in the scary conditions, I was loving it around those corners.

And nice to meet some new riding buddies, just might have to get more of the girls along next time so we can talk handbags and shoes at lunchtime.

gijoe1313

6th August 2007, 10:03

Whatever happened to the medium paced group? was that abandoned when i realised i needed to fill up my gas real quick just before the start? i didn't fit in with either group as the big bikes were too fast and the learners were too slow.

i must say, well done to the two other guys who had balls but no power (cbr250rr & cagiva 125) for tailing the big bikes and forming a middle group with me

I was TEC for this group ... but it turns out it got almagamated with the quicker group. A bit of confusion reigned once we got to Maraetai. A group was waiting for the slower 250s but it turned out they went by a different route! :sweatdrop

I was waiting with them for about 5-10 minutes until I realised they weren't coming our way! I rode on to ensure that the medium/quicker group weren't going to be held up by a missing TEC! As it was McJim came throbbing back on the Duchess when I was pootling my way around Maraetai bay to the marae there.

By that stage, there were bikes left, right, center and all in the hills of the hunuas :lol: (not laughing about the incidents, but at the general mayhem!)

I was hoping for three groups, clearly defined, but it turns out only certain people knew the route?

ehab2weelr

6th August 2007, 10:29

my bike is now riding sweet, and cant wait for the next ride hope not to bin her next time.:yes:.
but just like to say to mav dont wary bod its not you to blame you did great in organising and leading the ride :rockon:, im glad that now i had my first real crash and i bleave that now im a true biker, a kber too :yes:. thanks again for the ride loved it:love:
and thanks mav and the others who ditched the ride to mack sure were ok, thanks

Cr1MiNaL

6th August 2007, 10:38

I'll give a few more talks next time :)

:bye: Oh No !!!!!!

babyblade250rr

6th August 2007, 10:43

I think Mav and Mcjim did a great job with this ride, This is my first of hopefully many, But Mav you just can't control everything unless you jump on a newbie's bike and ride it for them but control is something that is utterly up to the individual and out of anyone elses hands.

Don't be too hard on yourselves guys you did a fantastic job!!!:rockon:

McJim

6th August 2007, 11:24

can the next ride be out towards a different direction?? north or west or south would be great :P

The route we took is less travelled by cages. There are some other great roads. SH16, SH22, SH2 HOWEVER as soon as someone shows up for the ride that we have doubts about we have to avoid main roads as a lot of people simply will not do the 105kph that is required to be safe.

Once you have witnessed 30 or so 250cc bikes trying to overtake 10 cars and a truck you will understand why I want these rides to avoid main roads unless ALL the riders have the good sense to know when they can't safely make a maneouvre.

As we saw yesterday - it's too easy to bin a bike. At least when it's a Learner speeds people can generally walk away again. If they'd come off at 100kph we'd be looking at Hospitals and write offs.

In the past I have advertised 250 rides and said "This ride IS NOT learner friendly" and still got someone who won't accelerate up to 100kph.

It's often very frustrating trying to organise these rides. Motorcyclists are, almost by definition, very individualistic. It's like trying to herd cats sometimes. :rofl:

I'll be leaving Auckland in the next 2 months anyway so I'll be well out of it.

For the benefit of those that weren't there we did try to split the groups in order that the faster riders would not be around the 250 learners. That way new riders weren't exposed to testosterone packed peer pressure.

Misfortune and misunderstanding caused the groups to overlap a little on the way out.

Cr1MiNaL

6th August 2007, 11:45

Misfortune and misunderstanding caused the groups to overlap a little on the way out.

Actually it was fun, also quite liked the sight of some 30 odd bikes flocking the roads like they did ! :rockon::scooter:
If people won't ride to the 100km speed limit, then they are wanting to be overtaken on one wheel like I witnessed a few times... (front and back lol).

McJim

6th August 2007, 11:55

Actually it was fun, also quite liked the sight of some 30 odd bikes flocking the roads like they did ! :rockon::scooter:
If people won't ride to the 100km speed limit, then they are wanting to be overtaken on one wheel like I witnessed a few times... (front and back lol).

It was nearer 50 all up. There were 30 bikes in the 'fast' group alone.

babyblade250rr

6th August 2007, 11:56

such a great turnout, and a very good idea splitting into groups i could just imagine the kaos if everyone rode together

gijoe1313

6th August 2007, 14:58

It was nearer 50 all up. There were 30 bikes in the 'fast' group alone.

Cripes... I knew there was a few, I counted to 40 and gave up. No wonder there was some muddling and confusion!

Brett

6th August 2007, 17:52

Cr1MiNaL

6th August 2007, 17:58

Hahaha those wheelies were pathetic, HOWEVER my seals are still mint!:yes:
I am getting more into trying stand up wheelies now...only ever got two decent ones going yet...kinda sucks.

haha yea bro I tried the 2nd gear wheelie today in the rain had it up a good 3-4 kms hit 180 then ran outa balls ;) stable as.. lucky for me its geting done under warranty. Good eye spotting it, cheers for that. I thought ur gixxer was a thou? not a 600? cud b wrong...

Raj.

Sleepr

6th August 2007, 18:31

haha yea bro I tried the 2nd gear wheelie today in the rain had it up a good 3-4 kms hit 180 then ran outa balls ;) stable as.. lucky for me its geting done under warranty. Good eye spotting it, cheers for that. I thought ur gixxer was a thou? not a 600? cud b wrong...

Raj.

I told you, you were crazy :P. I was dropping my balls when I was on 110 on my hornet on the ride, its the wind -_-

Prof - R

6th August 2007, 19:29

yes was one of the unlucky one that did bin

but must say thanks to the guys that take the time & effort for putting the ride togather

was a good ride for me until then .... but then even after that was offered to carry on the rest of the way as a pillon which i must say was my first time & had a totally different feel to it & many thanks to colin for that

& also would like to say thanks to everyone that was around to help after my bin

now a sore body

bike in repairs BUT well be back at it soon

Brett

6th August 2007, 20:06

haha yea bro I tried the 2nd gear wheelie today in the rain had it up a good 3-4 kms hit 180 then ran outa balls ;) stable as.. lucky for me its geting done under warranty. Good eye spotting it, cheers for that. I thought ur gixxer was a thou? not a 600? cud b wrong...

Raj.

Nah, its a six hundy...the can makes it sound a bit deeper than 600's usually sound.

ehab2weelr

6th August 2007, 20:46

this is some advice from one who got binned, to all riders new and old, as i found out my self things dont allways go as planed :no: luckly i was wearing a leather jacet but that just saved my uperbody , so if your going out for a ride be sure to WEAR FULL GEAR !!!! :niceone:
we got binned gonig at 60km/hr we were lucky to get away with miner bruzing ;) but my knee has a prety nasty cut which is the cause of wearing jeans, one other guy got stiches. only one guy walked awy with no cuts because he was wearing the full gear :yes:
pleas fellow riders take my advice and be ready for anything wear your gear :Punk:

thanks :first:

delusionz

6th August 2007, 22:05

60kph BS. I looked down at my speedo before that corner came up and it read more than twice that. The lesson you learned is ride your own ride, not what the guy infront is doing

McJim

6th August 2007, 22:19

60kph BS. I looked down at my speedo before that corner came up and it read more than twice that. The lesson you learned is ride your own ride, not what the guy infront is doing

you need to have your speedo calibrated then. GPX250 can't do more than double 60kph :rofl:

:Pokey:

Sleepr

6th August 2007, 22:25

Why would he need to lie? I was part of the slower groups which was lead by Mav, and we hardly touched 90. Well I was doing about that, people behind me were doing about the same, and the people in front of me were going a little faster but they did keep us in their rear view mirrors. Now since the bins happend after us, I am assuming they were part of the slower group as well and riding even slower. If they wanted to go fast why would they be in the slower group in the first place?

Anyway as I was saying, we were pootling along nicely, came to this junction kinda thingy and pulled over for the slow riders to catch up, then we heard the news from some people in the van that there were bikers down. So Mav headed back, and the rest of us slow riders got escorted to where the medium/fast ppl were. We were then lead by Zilf I think to the place where we had lunch.

McJim

6th August 2007, 22:51

We were then lead by Zilf I think to the place where we had lunch.

Zapf I think. good guy. Zilf is like Lucy Lawless - Zena I'd like to ....no let's not go there she's a kiwi icon :rofl:

Yes, I know it's spelt with an X (The voices....does anyone else have pedantic voices?)

Brett

6th August 2007, 23:17

60kph BS. I looked down at my speedo before that corner came up and it read more than twice that. The lesson you learned is ride your own ride, not what the guy infront is doing

I would hope that one of the main lessons learnt is that you go where you look a lot of the time. From what I heard on the day, sounds like a bit of target fixation - one person crashes and the rest behind go 'oh shit' climb on brakes, see the corner, dont get off brakes, low side.
It is a very hard thing to learn to do when you find yourself off your line and puching wide towards the side of the road or centre line and to MAKE yourself leave the brakes and focus on leaning the bike over and looking where you want to go. I had to lowside before I learnt that lesson.

Glad you blokes came away unscathed. The tar demons can be a lot less forgiving!

zeocen

6th August 2007, 23:38

you need to have your speedo calibrated then. GPX250 can't do more than double 60kph :rofl:

:Pokey:

I'm happy to prove your statement false ;p

Sleepr

7th August 2007, 10:31

Zapf I think. good guy. Zilf is like Lucy Lawless - Zena I'd like to ....no let's not go there she's a kiwi icon :rofl:

Yes, I know it's spelt with an X (The voices....does anyone else have pedantic voices?)

opps I knew it started with Z and ended with f, so I filled in the rest of the letters :innocent:

He is a good guy alright, he started talking to us noobs about target fixation, lines, speed, road surfaces, hazards etc etc.

ehab2weelr

7th August 2007, 12:23

[QUOTE=Sleepr;1161780] I am assuming they were part of the slower group as well and riding even slower. If they wanted to go fast why would they be in the slower group in the first place?

i actuly was part of the lost fast group, we took a wrong turn some where hah some how i was leading the group so not sure if it was my foult we got lost :innocent:, any ways we turend araund one of the riders sade he knew the way back sorry cant remember your name :shutup: so he lead us back and on the way back is when my bike found its way to its side

ehab2weelr

7th August 2007, 12:25

McJim

7th August 2007, 15:02

I'm happy to prove your statement false ;p

Cool - meetcha next trackday round Pukekohe. I'll race you on my missus 150! good enuff?

breakaway

7th August 2007, 15:03

Hurry up and organise another one you guys, that was great fun :p

Cr1MiNaL

7th August 2007, 16:18

Nah, its a six hundy...the can makes it sound a bit deeper than 600's usually sound.

Yea boy go the 600's. Lovely little machines... nimble as :yes:

McJim

7th August 2007, 18:01

Hurry up and organise another one you guys, that was great fun :p

Wasn't too much fun for the organisers. :(

Stories of wheelies and bins and other unpleasantness best left unmentioned for evermore.

'nuff said - I ain't organising another ride.

Jeaves

7th August 2007, 18:31

'nuff said - I ain't organising another ride.

As your attorney, I advise you to take a hit out of the little brown bottle in my shaving kit. You won't need much, just a tiny taste.

zeocen

7th August 2007, 19:38

Cool - meetcha next trackday round Pukekohe. I'll race you on my missus 150! good enuff?

There'll be no trackdays for me for a long while, saving every extra penny for the next bike once I get my full !

McJim

7th August 2007, 19:43

There'll be no trackdays for me for a long while, saving every extra penny for the next bike once I get my full !

Well I'm not gonna race you on the open road and I don't condone exceeding 100kph on the open road either......

zeocen

7th August 2007, 19:45

Who mentioned racing anyway, I just said I'd be happy to show you the ol' ninja 250 can get past the mighty 120kmph ! ;)

I most definitely don't condone exceeding speed limits..

Brett

7th August 2007, 19:48

Wasn't too much fun for the organisers. :(

Stories of wheelies and bins and other unpleasantness best left unmentioned for evermore.

'nuff said - I ain't organising another ride.

In my experience, organising rides - especially large ones- are very stressfull for the organisers - par of the course unfortuanately, especially when the group is as diverse as it. But that is also why the responsibility needs to be spread so that all of the yobs get to have a go at just going along for the ride. Just know that the effort is appreciated Jamie (and Mav)

chace

7th August 2007, 19:49

Im a real noob when it comes to computers, put me down for the ride too!

Brett

7th August 2007, 19:51

Who mentioned racing anyway, I just said I'd be happy to show you the ol' ninja 250 can get past the mighty 120kmph ! ;)

I most definitely don't condone exceeding speed limits..

There is a time and a place for everything...well most things. However, speed and be prepared to wear it - by the cops or the road. I am no PC fella though - the whole speed kills thing is getting tiresome, I am not a criminal for doing 111kph.

chace

7th August 2007, 19:58

There is a time and a place for everything...well most things. However, speed and be prepared to wear it - by the cops or the road. I am no PC fella though - the whole speed kills thing is getting tiresome, I am not a criminal for doing 111kph.

I'm with you dude.

kiwifruit

7th August 2007, 19:59

I am not a criminal for doing 111kph.

yes, you are

zeocen

7th August 2007, 20:12