Tyrewarmer issue

[Deano]

Has anyone else had a tyrewarmer cabling burn through the fabric lining while on the tyre ? Mine did on Saturday at Manfeild.

My 'crew' were adament that they were careful putting them on, not to kink them etc, and I checked them each time as well.........cause I can be anal about shit....ask Drew.

I don't want to make a fuss about it with the supplier unless justified - any idea why this may have happened ?

Thermostat not switching them off perhaps ?

The burnt area was not up against the swingarm, or close to the exhaust, and the bike was on stands ????

Confused and not too happy.

[Masterchop]

Yes Deano, I have seen this before, I dont no the cause and I cant remember the brand of warmer that it was either, but it actually burst into flames while I was sitting next to it.

[Deano]

Yes Deano, I have seen this before, I dont no the cause and I cant remember the brand of warmer that it was either, but it actually burst into flames while I was sitting next to it.


Do you know if there was any comeback from the supplier ?

I.e. faulty warmer ?

I don't know if I'm being pedantic, but I feel they should last a bit longer than 1.5 meetings before frying.

[Masterchop]

I dont think you are being pedantic, they definitly should last longer than that,
The warmer that I saw catch fire was much older than 1.5 meetings.

Go back to supplier ASAP.

[Sparky Bills]

From what I saw Dean, the stitching was just faulty. And has come apart..?
Take it back to where you got them and see if you can both come to an agreement. Im sure it will be sorted so both parties are happy.

These things happen with any product. They importers will have a prosedure for this kind of thing.:rockon:

P.S. Its not as if you need them anyway!!:rockon:

[sugilite]

It's a faulty tyre warmer, take it back with confidence. :yes:

[Maido]

It's a faulty tyre warmer, take it back with confidence. :yes:

^^ what he said

[bistard]

It's a faulty tyre warmer, take it back with confidence. :yes:

Well,the problem I see Deano,is you didnt buy them from me & the Universe is telling you it was the wrong thing to do
Take the warmer back,get your money back & come & see me!!

[GSVR]

I'll be watching this thread with interest Deano. Perhaps you could post up a picture of the affected area.

For others information Deano brought these warmers off me. The front one is much older than the back as I lent them to someone who burnt it out so supplied me with a new one that I have only used 2-3 times/days and Deano only Rnd2 and 3.

My only thought is that the area that burnt may not have been tight against the tyre but can't really see this as causing the damage I saw. A faulty thermostat would have overheated the whole thing.

[Deano]

Garry - I deliberately didn't name names, could you please delete that part of your post ?

I appreciate your help though - and the warmers were always hard against the tyre, I checked them every time.

I can post a pic tomorrow.

[svs]

Just bring em back to us :) all our warmers have a full 12 month warranty.

However warranties usually only apply when you buy them new from us and don't apply to second hand goods. But since we are generally nice chaps, I'll send it back to the manufacturer for investigation and supply to a loaner while its away.

Phil

[Deano]

Just bring em back to us :) all our warmers have a full 12 month warranty.

However warranties usually only apply when you buy them new from us and don't apply to second hand goods. But since we are generally nice chaps, I'll send it back to the manufacturer for investigation and supply to a loaner while its away.

Phil


As per my PM - thankyou Phil. Appreciate it.

[cowpoos]

another thing that can cause that is having dirt and or mud/stones on the tyre pre putting it on...pays to always wipe the tyre of everything before stick them on...

[roadracingoldfart]

Just bring em back to us :) all our warmers have a full 12 month warranty.

However warranties usually only apply when you buy them new from us and don't apply to second hand goods. But since we are generally nice chaps, I'll send it back to the manufacturer for investigation and supply to a loaner while its away.

Phil


Yehaaaa I always said you were a NICE CHAP Phil, now im vindicated.


If you dont get your tyrwarmers before round 4 Deano then you will have to suffer like us peasant cold tyre bastards aye !!!

[Maido]

KLS ----> super tyre warmers imo

[Deano]

another thing that can cause that is having dirt and or mud/stones on the tyre pre putting it on...pays to always wipe the tyre of everything before stick them on...

What are you trying to say buddy ? My tyres were clean as a whistle - no 'off's into the mud etc for me, not even on the warm up lap OW !!.

Not yet anyways.

[Torque]

My set are buring through. My cause, is the tyre warmers are too big and they over lap. The cotten cover has just scorched and brocken away. Still work but not really a good idea. Seen this on a few sets. I think if i had the correct size it wouldn't be a problem. Just take them back if you are not happy.

[boostin]

What is the expected life of a set of tyre warmers?

[steveyb]

Tyrewarmers should last a few years, IF treated correctly. A set of tyres would do the same, if only used on sunny sundays by an old lady driver. It is all in how one treats them. When I walk around the pits and see tyrewarmers slung on the ground, getting stood on, bikes rolling over them, stuffed into tool boxes with sharp and hard tools, pulled left, right and center, one has to wonder how long anything would last with treatment like that.
Tyrewarmers should be switched off, rolled up and placed in a safe place when they are removed from the bike. It only takes 15 seconds. You rushing to the dummy grid? Get organised for f&^%ks sake!!!

You just paid $500-600 for them, why do you just hiff them onto the ground??? You do that to your new $500 digital camera??

They are a delicate electical item, not a lump of shit, they should be inspected, at least visually, by their users every once in a while. Just like your bike gets a look over (more often than once in a while I hope), so should ALL of your gear.

A melted spot can indeed be caused by the stiching coming apart and the elements moving to be too close together.This could then cause a local hotspot. Have a look over your warmers to check these sorts of things out and you might prevent such a thing by getting the needle and thread out.

If the thermostatic switch fails, the tyrewarmer will either not warm up, or the whole tyrewarmer will overheat and could melt or burn. That would not cause a localised hotspot. These sorts of things happen with electrical gear, it is ultimately YOUR responsibility to keep an eye on stuff you are using as no maufacturer, distributor, retailer or whatever can know what the customer is going to do with the product once outside of their control.

Would have been good that the poster said that his warmers were second hand ay? Who ever heard of a retailer taking back second-hand used goods that are some months old?? Only REALLY good ones I say. Try it on with other retailers and see how far you get.

I'm sorry Mr Repco, but I bought this spanner off my mate who bought it off you nearly a year ago and it is stuffed now, how about a refund?

Sound plausable to you?

[Deano]

Tyrewarmers should last a few years, IF treated correctly.

That's what I would expect.


When I walk around the pits and see tyrewarmers slung on the ground, getting stood on, bikes rolling over them, stuffed into tool boxes with sharp and hard tools, pulled left, right and center, one has to wonder how long anything would last with treatment like that.
Tyrewarmers should be switched off, rolled up and placed in a safe place when they are removed from the bike. It only takes 15 seconds. You rushing to the dummy grid? Get organised for f&^%ks sake!!!


Mine were switched off and folded and pushed to the side out of the way each time.
Ask anyone who knows me about how I look after my own, and other people's shit.



Would have been good that the poster said that his warmers were second hand ay? Who ever heard of a retailer taking back second-hand used goods that are some months old?? Only REALLY good ones I say. Try it on with other retailers and see how far you get.


Would have been good if the poster hadn't named the product name ay ? Oh, that's right - I didn't.

Yes - the warmers are second hand. The rear which has burnt had done 3-4meetings. Hardly the 'few years' that you mention above.

Did I once make any rash accusations Stevey ? Did you actually read my posts ?



I don't want to make a fuss about it with the supplier unless justified - any idea why this may have happened ?



Who ever heard of a retailer taking back second-hand used goods that are some months old?? Only REALLY good ones I say. Try it on with other retailers and see how far you get.


I've heard quit a few stories of good retailers remedying problems with goods that were past their warranty.

Phil has been excellent over this thus far - said he would have a look at them and return to the manufacturer if necessary - I'm a bit surprised at your post ? - are you the Steve he said he would also get to look at them ? (I assume his business partner) I hope not.

[steveyb]

Hi Deano.
The comments I made were not directed at you personally, apologies if you felt they were. It is hard to make a general point in this medium sometimes.

I was trying to make the point to the general audience about treating gear correctly, as there are some who do not have a good idea about it. Take a walk around the pits yourself and see how some gear gets treated, although I am sure you can imagine it.

You indicate you did treat them correctly, and I will not disagee with you.
Just trying to make a general point.

We will of course deal with your issue in the most appropriate manner to achieve a mutually agreeable outcome, I was not attempting to indicate that we would not.

Best regards

Steve

[kickingzebra]

deano, trick is to take the warmers off between race meets, I know you want to minimise heat cycles, but 4 months on stands is just crazy :P

[codgyoleracer]

Hi Deanno,
Only problems that I have had , have been my own fault. 1) Left some plugged in once lying on the floor (smokey result), 2) The wires going into the warmer got jammed up in my chain due to an over-exuberent tyre warmer removing helper (result stripped wires + short followed by (smokey event number two).
Have used many brands over the years & they all have had their own strengths & weaknesses & are generally priced accordingly.
Cant figure whats going on with yours - but the stitching comment & the possibilty of the internal wires getting a little closer to each other as a result makes some sense i suppose.
Are they all good now ?
Glen

[Deano]

Hi Deanno,
Only problems that I have had , have been my own fault. 1) Left some plugged in once lying on the floor (smokey result), 2) The wires going into the warmer got jammed up in my chain due to an over-exuberent tyre warmer removing helper (result stripped wires + short followed by (smokey event number two).
Have used many brands over the years & they all have had their own strengths & weaknesses & are generally priced accordingly.
Cant figure whats going on with yours - but the stitching comment & the possibilty of the internal wires getting a little closer to each other as a result makes some sense i suppose.
Are they all good now ?
Glen

Hi Glen,

I haven't heard any more as yet. Still waiting for the word from the manufacturer.

Being only 3-4 meetings old, the stitching was fine so I can't see how it could have overheated.

I'm stumped.

Phil kindly lent me a rear warmer for Round 4.........which incidentally, didn't burn through....which I think reinforces my claim that it wasn't operator error that caused the initial fault. :no:

[codgyoleracer]

Hmmm, bit of a conundrum that one........, If an individual wire was "kinked" & the result of this made it become stretched or hairline cracked by a small amount I wonder if this would increase the resistance of the wire & cause a hot spot ?, Anyone on the site able to comment on this ?