Mohsin Trademe stuff

[Manxman]

Does anyone have any Mohsin gear (jackets, etc)? I'm thinking in particular like the stuff advertised on Trademe...comments (good or bad) welcome.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Does anyone have any Mohsin gear (jackets, etc)? I'm thinking in particular like the stuff advertised on Trademe...comments (good or bad) welcome.

Hey mate, I have a cordura mohsin jacket i bought to wear over my leathers. Ill say that its bloody effective in the rain and worn over the leathers keeps all the wind out. But the ce armour is budget.. dont really want to bin in that. perhaps u want to change the armour or like me wear it over ur leathers when it rains... all in all its a fab jacket.

I paid 160 for mine and u shd get a discount if u tell him I refered u. Say the guy who came to ur house in the black R6.
hope this helps.

Raj.

[HungusMaximist]

I've checked out a few Moshin jackets and they are of good quality and I reckon it's a good buy if you can get a good price. I don't wear them so I can't comment on their effectiveness.

Just make sure you don't overbid and get trigger happy on that mouse.

[QMOTO]

In A word, you get what you pay for, a rule of life, pay budget get budget
I have some quality gear at clearance prices if interested, I wont sell gear of crapola quality as you can find on TM.

[rwh]

In A word, you get what you pay for, a rule of life, pay budget get budget
I have some quality gear at clearance prices if interested, I wont sell gear of crapola quality as you can find on TM.

Thanks for the tip - I'd better not trust that stuff at clearance prices, eh? :rofl:

Richard

[QMOTO]

Thanks for the tip - I'd better not trust that stuff at clearance prices, eh? :rofl:

Richard

Haha so funny, Clearance and end of line sales are different to cheaply made unsafe crap im thinking

[robertydog]

I brought a cordura mohsin jacket for my partner. She is very happy with it and have found it to be well made. Got a removable liner and all the armour.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Yes it is good stuff no doubt. Rode in 3 hrs of rain today and Im dry as a bone. Excellent!

[rwh]

Haha so funny, Clearance and end of line sales are different to cheaply made unsafe crap im thinking

Well I would have thought so, but I don't know what this stuff is being sold on Trademe, so I can't judge. You, however, seem to be happy to assume that if it's cheap it's crap.

Of course, clearance sales aside, I would have to assume you would tell me that if I import Dainese or something that's presumably more expensive than your gear, I'll be getting something similarly better.

Or does cheap only mean crap if it's less than your stuff, and it doesn't work going upwards?

I know you've had lots of good reports from people who've crashed in your gear, and it sounds like it's reasonable stuff - I'd probably check out some of it if I could try it on locally. The only thing I'm getting at is the automatic association of price with quality - when it suits you.

Richard

[QMOTO]

Well I would have thought so, but I don't know what this stuff is being sold on Trademe, so I can't judge. You, however, seem to be happy to assume that if it's cheap it's crap.

Of course, clearance sales aside, I would have to assume you would tell me that if I import Dainese or something that's presumably more expensive than your gear, I'll be getting something similarly better.

Or does cheap only mean crap if it's less than your stuff, and it doesn't work going upwards?

I know you've had lots of good reports from people who've crashed in your gear, and it sounds like it's reasonable stuff - I'd probably check out some of it if I could try it on locally. The only thing I'm getting at is the automatic association of price with quality - when it suits you.

Richard

Yeah association between price and quality is a real factor, ie if I add say Nylon single stitching to my gear the price comes down, if I add kevlar triple it goes up. If I pay USD$5000 for a CE approval on my armor the price goes up to the end user, fact of life Im afraid.
If its cheap generally its for a reason eh.
If you import a Alpinestar suit yes great quality no problems there, but you do pay a margin for the name also.
I might have sounded arrogant earlier sorry but it worries me that some people bring in crap and sell it as top quality, this trader advertises Retail on his gear and prices like $549 for a leather Jacket, problem is it isnt sold as retail anywhere in NZ so how is this figured out, it also implies its top spec and it isnt ( I assure you )
Most of the sellers on TM buy from traders, not the factory, they have little or no ability to specify anything, trust me I know, I spent a week over there last month and was horrified as to some of the practices, for example, not closing of the stitiching, lying and falsifying CE certificates, using copy fabrics like cordura and saying its genuine etc etc etc, low grade Buffalo leather but saying its Cowhide top grade etc etc etc

mate buy what you want, but Im saying be careful, it matters alot when you fall of.

[QMOTO]

Well I would have thought so, but I don't know what this stuff is being sold on Trademe, so I can't judge. You, however, seem to be happy to assume that if it's cheap it's crap.

Of course, clearance sales aside, I would have to assume you would tell me that if I import Dainese or something that's presumably more expensive than your gear, I'll be getting something similarly better.

Or does cheap only mean crap if it's less than your stuff, and it doesn't work going upwards?

I know you've had lots of good reports from people who've crashed in your gear, and it sounds like it's reasonable stuff - I'd probably check out some of it if I could try it on locally. The only thing I'm getting at is the automatic association of price with quality - when it suits you.

Richard

Yeah association between price and quality is a real factor, ie if I add say Nylon single stitching to my gear the price comes down, if I add kevlar triple it goes up. If I pay USD$5000 for a CE approval on my armor the price goes up to the end user, fact of life Im afraid.
If its cheap generally its for a reason eh.
If you import a Alpinestar suit yes great quality no problems there, but you do pay a margin for the name also.
I might have sounded arrogant earlier sorry but it worries me that some people bring in crap and sell it as top quality, this trader advertises Retail on his gear and prices like $549 for a leather Jacket, problem is it isnt sold as retail anywhere in NZ so how is this figured out, it also implies its top spec and it isnt ( I assure you )
Most of the sellers on TM buy from traders, not the factory, they have little or no ability to specify anything, trust me I know, I spent a week over there last month and was horrified as to some of the practices, for example, not closing of the stitiching, lying and falsifying CE certificates, using copy fabrics like cordura and saying its genuine etc etc etc, low grade Buffalo leather but saying its Cowhide top grade etc etc etc

mate buy what you want, but Im saying be careful, it matters alot when you fall of.

If you want to try anything on we can replace if the wrong size anyway, just tell me your budget and I will work something out for you dude

[ynot slow]

Carpe diem.let buyer beware is good motto,we sell imported items at work and although maybe cheaper it can be false economy,i.e starts out good then starts to fall apart,maybe after a couple of years,whereas nz may last longer.

I was in clothing industry when we had one as a clothing cutter,mostly mens and womens shirts,jackets,sweatshirts.At that time the imports we used as samples or design from were crap,no overlocking on seams,minimal seams,sizes all around the place.At least the nz sizing was to a recognised international standard,something which is still happening with imports.

I've bought a zip together leather suit from trademe,as it said size xl,thought it'll fit,pants did jacket way to small,asked the question re how big waist was told approx 90cm,went into cashconverters and got $3.50 more for it.

Went and tried a second from quasi's range and impressed,sizes were smaller than nz but quality was ok,if it lasts even 5yrs it's cheaper than thinner quality stuff,should well and truly last longer if looked after.As for percieved peoples attitude with seconds being inferior these have minor issues,i.e inside faults and doesn't interfere with making or crap leather,if you want a cheap jacket and style suits,I reccomend if you can try them on first do it,hell I went up from the Naki albeit on holiday,as stated clearance/reduced sale goods have to be better than similar products at a cheaper price,old stock alpinestar gear at reduced price is better than similar priced no name gear. Or another way how many of you buy the run out model bike at bargain price,quality same just dealer wants to get new model in to sell.

[ynot slow]

Yeah association between price and quality is a real factor, ie if I add say Nylon single stitching to my gear the price comes down, if I add kevlar triple it goes up. If I pay USD$5000 for a CE approval on my armor the price goes up to the end user, fact of life Im afraid.
If its cheap generally its for a reason eh.
If you import a Alpinestar suit yes great quality no problems there, but you do pay a margin for the name also.
I might have sounded arrogant earlier sorry but it worries me that some people bring in crap and sell it as top quality, this trader advertises Retail on his gear and prices like $549 for a leather Jacket, problem is it isnt sold as retail anywhere in NZ so how is this figured out, it also implies its top spec and it isnt ( I assure you )
Most of the sellers on TM buy from traders, not the factory, they have little or no ability to specify anything, trust me I know, I spent a week over there last month and was horrified as to some of the practices, for example, not closing of the stitiching, lying and falsifying CE certificates, using copy fabrics like cordura and saying its genuine etc etc etc, low grade Buffalo leather but saying its Cowhide top grade etc etc etc

mate buy what you want, but Im saying be careful, it matters alot when you fall of.

If you want to try anything on we can replace if the wrong size anyway, just tell me your budget and I will work something out for you dude

Too true Brett,as above post of mine,we used to hear via grapevine that x company was getting clothes made in Fiji and bring them back slapping made in nz labels on them,heaps of manufacturers were trying it as back in the 80's,Muldoons govt gave export insentives,hence send the goods overseas to be made,unfortunately same companies would get caught,when importing back into nz and having nz labels on them.We used to make under licence the original golden breed sweats and shirts,the quality control was tough,re sizing,make and cloth used,you couldn't supply thinner quality material for t-shirts.If it said 200grm you used that not 150grm weight,you couldn't see difference between the two until it had been washed a few times,then the quality was shown,one would have faded,shrunk and lost shape,other would be good for another season.Cost maybe at time $20 for nz made or $12.50 for cheaper import.As a perk staff were given seconds cheap($5.00),some of mine lasted for 2-3 years.

[MohsinBikeWear]

Hi guy's, Darren from Mohsin Bike Wear here. Thanks for your support as we enter the Australasian market. I see that we are ruffling the feathers of a few minor competitors... I'm sure there will be more inaccurate comments coming from them in the future. We prefer to let our customers be the judge of our products and services. With regard to the quality price relationship, our position is very simple... we will bring you high quality products at extremely competitive prices. Thanks again for your support!

[MohsinBikeWear]

Hi guy's, Darren from Mohsin Bike Wear here. Thanks for your support as we enter the Australasian market. I see that we are ruffling the feathers of a few minor competitors... I'm sure there will be more inaccurate comments coming from them in the future. We prefer to let our customers be the judge of our products and services. With regard to the quality price relationship, our position is very simple... we will bring you high quality products at extremely competitive prices. Thanks again for your support!

[Romeo]

I see that we are ruffling the feathers of a few minor competitors...
Who are you calling minor, do you even have a web presence? Your gear looks cool, but without the reassurance that your stuff is the real deal and that you'll back it up then there's no way I'll buy anything.

You say you're aware of unfair "inaccurate comments" people are/will be spreading, so what has your organisation done to counter this? Have you realeased any documentation, etc?

[ynot slow]

From a perspective buyer of gear,when the seller of bike or snow gear I buy from answers my questions with factual answers and points out the overlocked sideseams,double stitched and fused for waterproof,and doesn't try to bullshit me into buying the more expensive item I'll probably purchase.

Quality counts with me,cheapest can be false economy in long run,I can't comment on items I've not seen.If you can see items in shops,no worries,but off websites it can be dicey.Also if you need to return for resize the courier costs can mount up,mind you the upshot can be lower overheads and that can be passed on to buyer.

[gtr boy]

i got sum leather pants ,moshin styles,really happy with quality ...leather is nice in thick for those rubbing on the seal experiences,which will happn i guess as i tend to like to speed....hehehe.
Darrens trade me feed back speaks for its self though.

[roy.nz]

Got a Jacket and leather pants dont get wet in down poors really comfortable good stuff.:Punk:

[Taz]

Hi guy's, Darren from Mohsin Bike Wear here. Thanks for your support as we enter the Australasian market. I see that we are ruffling the feathers of a few minor competitors... I'm sure there will be more inaccurate comments coming from them in the future. We prefer to let our customers be the judge of our products and services. With regard to the quality price relationship, our position is very simple... we will bring you high quality products at extremely competitive prices. Thanks again for your support!

Well said. Don't enter into a slagging war with those others.

[Dakara]

I was about to start up a new thread... but then remembered there's a search function!


Yes it is good stuff no doubt. Rode in 3 hrs of rain today and Im dry as a bone. Excellent!

I notice in an earlier post Raj you said you wear one over your Leathers, just wondering what the waterproofing is like on it's own? (and which one you got).

I've got my Quasi Leathers for riding but for commuting the Leathers make a mess of my Uniform! :Oops: Looking to pickup something cheap and waterproof of tardme. Not worried if the CE isn't up to scratch as I'll get some Knox gear. So long it has some road burn protection and keeps me dry!

[Cr1MiNaL]

I was about to start up a new thread... but then remembered there's a search function!



I notice in an earlier post Raj you said you wear one over your Leathers, just wondering what the waterproofing is like on it's own? (and which one you got).

I've got my Quasi Leathers for riding but for commuting the Leathers make a mess of my Uniform! :Oops: Looking to pickup something cheap and waterproof of tardme. Not worried if the CE isn't up to scratch as I'll get some Knox gear. So long it has some road burn protection and keeps me dry!

Heya,

Yea I have a 'Mohsin' cordura touring jacket (blue because he didnt have blek). Its great for wet riding. I ride 25 ks to work each way everyday and on occasion the skies are merciless. Pretty good in the wet but not for more than an hour, then water slowly starts seeping through. My $280 gloves give first though. Oh and its got excellent wind protection too, nice and warm , well relatively speaking.
Hope this helps.

[Dakara]

Cheers mate, sounds like they'll do the job. My commute takes about half an hour each way, but I resort to the cage when the skies really open up! I've been wearing a thin snowboard jacket over the leathers recently, but water always gets in, and the boss doesn't look to happy when I appear to have slept in my shirt :rolleyes:

Will keep an eye on their $1 reserves now...

[Sparky Bills]

Id rather not trust a jacket of that quality...

Get some stuff off Quasi. Its tried and proven.
Plus he actually rides himself. The shit you get off tard me are from people who dont even ride... (im guessing anyway)

[Cr1MiNaL]

Id rather not trust a jacket of that quality...

Get some stuff off Quasi. Its tried and proven.
Plus he actually rides himself. The shit you get off tard me are from people who dont even ride... (im guessing anyway)


Quasi is the man. But these jackets do the job, trust you me.

[Taz]

I won't buy Quasi and it has nothing to do with quality.

[CookMySock]

Have got a very pretty textile red moshin jacket for my daughter and everything else (three riders) is "DriRider". The DriRider is much warmer than the Moshin jacket. The moshin is really just a fine-weather jacket. I though the moshin amour was better than the dririder.

Sorry Quasi, I haven't tried any of your gear. It looks good though.

DB

[boomer]

If you import a Alpinestar suit yes great quality no problems there, but you do pay a margin for the name also.

Am i right in thinking then Quassi that you have R&D like A*'s ?!

i'd be inclined to think the price of named gear is of a higher price because its had the input from top riders over the years, as well as years of R&D and hours and hours of Q&A...?!


I'm gonna be a wanker here and ask... how has your stuff been tested ( other than the local market ?) Knowing the answer i'm then inclined to say... but you still charge TOP brand prices...??!


* runs away.

[chester]

think ill stick to the quality of the Quasi gear,atleast its been proven before.... :bash:

[awayatc]

I have a Mohsin Cordura touring jacket of TM, and I believe it is well made and every bit as good as the middle of the road European jacket from the bike shop I had previously.
Darren was very helpfull, service was good and shipping very fast....(Paid $135 for the jacket, plus shipping).......

[portokiwi]

Who are you calling minor, do you even have a web presence? Your gear looks cool, but without the reassurance that your stuff is the real deal and that you'll back it up then there's no way I'll buy anything.

You say you're aware of unfair "inaccurate comments" people are/will be spreading, so what has your organisation done to counter this? Have you realeased any documentation, etc?

I will be more then happy to wear your gear:woohoo: Just cant buy any at the moment lol.
Looks like nice gear.

[Owl]

Am i right in thinking then Quassi that you have R&D like A*'s ?!

i'd be inclined to think the price of named gear is of a higher price because its had the input from top riders over the years, as well as years of R&D...?!


I'm gonna be a wanker here and ask... how has your stuff been tested ( other than the local market ?) Knowing the answer i'm then inclined to say... but you still charge TOP brand prices...??!


* runs away.

Well I've been wondering about Alpinestars R&D since I saw the replacement for my TZ-1 jacket. The new TX-1 with its girly pockets had to be designed by a chick or homo.:corn:

[QMOTO]

Am i right in thinking then Quassi that you have R&D like A*'s ?!

i'd be inclined to think the price of named gear is of a higher price because its had the input from top riders over the years, as well as years of R&D and hours and hours of Q&A...?!


I'm gonna be a wanker here and ask... how has your stuff been tested ( other than the local market ?) Knowing the answer i'm then inclined to say... but you still charge TOP brand prices...??!


* runs away.

Fishing mate ? surprised I am !

Well we can read alot into that Mr Boomer, seems you want us to justify ourselves and even defend ourselves on a Mohsin thread WTF?

Yes we have a 5 story R&D department in Italy that employs 500 people and a huge marketing department, and also have 50% of GP riders in our gear also. Sheeeeeeeeeesh did you get out of bed the wrong side mate?

Yeah top prices whatever!!, go and buy a A-star custom suit for $1595 you wont $4k maybe,
I guess thats why We still both work because we are so loaded !

And prices reflect a return on investment and the market price for similair quality, 101 marketing.

You dont wear our gear and you prolly wont, so whats your point and what are you trying to achieve exactly?

[Dakara]

Id rather not trust a jacket of that quality...

Get some stuff off Quasi. Its tried and proven.
Plus he actually rides himself. The shit you get off tard me are from people who dont even ride... (im guessing anyway)

I have a full set of Leathers from Quasi, and will continue to buy from him. Great gear, great price and awsome support :cool:

The only reason I'm looking at Tardme gear is because I'm after some cheap waterproof commuter gear which wont crinkle my shirt like the Leathers do and Moshin puts stuff up at $1 reserve :lol:

[klyong82]

I got a mohsin textile jacket for cheap since no one bidded on the $1 reserve but have not tried the other jackets from Mohsin. Appearence wise the Mohsin is ok single stitching and after wearing it for a year the stitching is coming lose. The armour is average which I suggest that it needs to be changed after you buy one.

Quasi's jackets in my opinion is better and I feel alot safer in it double stitching, thicker leather etc...

[QMOTO]

I got a mohsin textile jacket for cheap since no one bidded on the $1 reserve but have not tried the other jackets from Mohsin. Appearence wise the Mohsin is ok single stitching and after wearing it for a year the stitching is coming lose. The armour is average which I suggest that it needs to be changed after you buy one.

Quasi's jackets in my opinion is better and I feel alot safer in it double stitching, thicker leather etc...

Hiya, we have a minimium specification of triple stitching (high quality and expensive threads) on Road gear and a spec of Quadriple stitching on Race suits.
We invest alot of time into our spec and are continuously making all specs better than before.

[klyong82]

Hiya, we have a minimium specification of triple stitching (high quality and expensive threads) on Road gear and a spec of Quadriple stitching on Race suits.
We invest alot of time into our spec and are continuously making all specs better than before.

Whoops correction triple stitching after going to inspect.....good Quasi gloves too..

[Dakara]

Hiya, we have a minimium specification of triple stitching (high quality and expensive threads) on Road gear and a spec of Quadriple stitching on Race suits.
We invest alot of time into our spec and are continuously making all specs better than before.

Hey Quasi, I'm definitely a satisfied customer of your gear, however in terms of a textile waterproof jacket for commuting your jacket appears a bit short. To give an idea the Jacket I've been looking at is http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=163849519

Reason being, it's longer at the back so there wont be any gap between my pants and the jacket for water to leak through.

If you do have something similar, and not in Black then I would definitely buy from you over Tardme.

[QMOTO]

Hey Quasi, I'm definitely a satisfied customer of your gear, however in terms of a textile waterproof jacket for commuting your jacket appears a bit short. To give an idea the Jacket I've been looking at is http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=163849519

Reason being, it's longer at the back so there wont be any gap between my pants and the jacket for water to leak through.

If you do have something similar, and not in Black then I would definitely buy from you over Tardme.

hi Dakara.
We didnt bring in a range of Textile gear this year, we are developing one on the same spec that we provided to the New Zealand Army, but we arent ready to bring it to the general market yet.

Cheers

[Dakara]

hi Dakara.
We didnt bring in a range of Textile gear this year, we are developing one on the same spec that we provided to the New Zealand Army, but we arent ready to bring it to the general market yet.

Cheers

Ah sounds like something to keep an eye out for then!

Cheers mate.

[alanzs]

Carpe diem.let buyer beware is good motto,

Carpe Diem, loosely translated means take or sieze the day. I think you meant caveat emptor, or buyer beware. :doh:

[CookMySock]

Carpe Diem, loosely translated means take or sieze the day. I think you meant caveat emptor, or buyer beware. :doh:yeah, well his french isn't that great ay.. :doh:

haha

DB

[alanzs]

yeah, well his french isn't that great ay.. :doh:

haha

DB

Wee, wee, mi amigo.

Wee wee always sounds so weird when you say it. It's like a big guy drinking threw a straw, it just looks, well, weird.

Carry on.... :beer:

[firefighter]

hmmmm, my jacket is ok but my pants split when my mate borrowed them, they were a bit snug, he hoped on his bike and they tore from the stretch......

[ynot slow]

Carpe Diem, loosely translated means take or sieze the day. I think you meant caveat emptor, or buyer beware. :doh:

Did mean carpe diem/as seize the day(buy the goods now not next week) but in the end be aware of the goods you purchase,was thinking about what I was going to write,but then lost my train of thought.

Latin wasn't much chop either eh.

[Kwakajack]

Yeah association between price and quality is a real factor, ie if I add say Nylon single stitching to my gear the price comes down, if I add kevlar triple it goes up. If I pay USD$5000 for a CE approval on my armor the price goes up to the end user, fact of life Im afraid.
If its cheap generally its for a reason eh.
If you import a Alpinestar suit yes great quality no problems there, but you do pay a margin for the name also.
I might have sounded arrogant earlier sorry but it worries me that some people bring in crap and sell it as top quality, this trader advertises Retail on his gear and prices like $549 for a leather Jacket, problem is it isnt sold as retail anywhere in NZ so how is this figured out, it also implies its top spec and it isnt ( I assure you )
Most of the sellers on TM buy from traders, not the factory, they have little or no ability to specify anything, trust me I know, I spent a week over there last month and was horrified as to some of the practices, for example, not closing of the stitiching, lying and falsifying CE certificates, using copy fabrics like cordura and saying its genuine etc etc etc, low grade Buffalo leather but saying its Cowhide top grade etc etc etc

mate buy what you want, but Im saying be careful, it matters alot when you fall of.


I have and will replace in not too long a fairly low(ish) priced set of touring gear by Spool, now I am not bothered all that much in spending $350 to $400 on a jacket and around the same on matching pants. I have fallen off in this suit (the jacket obviously enough needed replacing afterwards) at a decent clip and can say comfortably that had I done that in the suit I'd owned prior to this, that suit would not have stood up to it, as general wear like commuting between home and university was resulting in torn stitching. I would advise to set a budget for decent quality gear that isn't too difficult to replace and what's more does its job at around that level. You are playing with the likes of DriRider, Ixor and others at this price bracket and to be honest, the quality is definitly there. Once you can afford more then pay more if you so wish. Still I would recommend working through a dealer that has a physical shop so you can try on the gear and know that it's comfortable before you buy, uncomfortable gear is hell, it took me two helmets to get that right!

[Muppet]

Yeah association between price and quality is a real factor, ie if I add say Nylon single stitching to my gear the price comes down, if I add kevlar triple it goes up. If I pay USD$5000 for a CE approval on my armor the price goes up to the end user, fact of life Im afraid.
If its cheap generally its for a reason eh.
If you import a Alpinestar suit yes great quality no problems there, but you do pay a margin for the name also.
I might have sounded arrogant earlier sorry but it worries me that some people bring in crap and sell it as top quality, this trader advertises Retail on his gear and prices like $549 for a leather Jacket, problem is it isnt sold as retail anywhere in NZ so how is this figured out, it also implies its top spec and it isnt ( I assure you )
Most of the sellers on TM buy from traders, not the factory, they have little or no ability to specify anything, trust me I know, I spent a week over there last month and was horrified as to some of the practices, for example, not closing of the stitiching, lying and falsifying CE certificates, using copy fabrics like cordura and saying its genuine etc etc etc, low grade Buffalo leather but saying its Cowhide top grade etc etc etc

mate buy what you want, but Im saying be careful, it matters alot when you fall of.

As I suspected, I knew that gear was crapola, I have Alpinestars leathers and Teknic fabric stuff as well as a BMW rainsuit, quality!!