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Sparky Mark
26th July 2007, 11:50
So, after a demo ride at the weekend I decided to trade in my trusty and almost 50k, VTR Firestorm, and furnish my garage with a nice new Hornet 900.

My first impressions of the demo bike were mixed. The riding style was completely different to the VTR, from the bent over to the upright position. This gave me a slight feeling of the front wanting to ‘dip’ into the corners a little. I put this down to my lack of recent experience on a ‘street fighter’ and concentrated on the rest of the ride.
The roads around Palmy were slightly damp so I had to take it fairly gingerly, actually that’s probably an understatement, since it a) wasn’t my bike and b) I didn’t want to make a complete arse of myself in front of my two, somewhat frustrated companions, Babelfish and Grant my neighbor -Thanks a million guys. Who were both straining at the bit to roar off into the distance for some fun.

The bike handled very well and the upshot was I decided to go for it. So I picked my new baby up on Tuesday morning and after a few I’ve begun to get a feel for it. I’ll begin with what I don’t like…

Honda, for some reason, chose to put the kickstand bar behind the foot peg, which makes it cumbersome when parking for someone shorter like me, as you have to fumble to find it.
The seat could be a tad more comfortable but I think over time that seat may soften a bit as it’s worn in. The only other criticism I have is that I like to ride with the balls of the feet on the pegs. The design of the Hornet pushes your heels out so you’re slightly pigeon toed in this position. But this may just be something I’ll get used to.

The good side…
The stability of the Hornet in comparison to the VTR is very different. Into the corners the hornet digs itself into the tarmac and delivers to you a massive burst of confidence. The VTR on the other hand was a slight more unpredictable and often had to be teased and eased through the ‘experience’.

The range on the hornet is impressive in comparison. No more paranoia of the red light of death. I filled her up after about 250k’s and about 25k after the light came on. With 3.5 liters left in reserve there’s no problem with getting to a gas station.

The gear changes on both bikes are cluncky, however, the hornet seems much happier with clutch-less changes. Between 4th and 5th however you have to make a conscious effort let the gear leaver return fully, otherwise the next attempt too often ends up with nothing more than a toe full of spring!

One thing to get used to from the VTR is how quickly you have to change up through the gears. The hornet gets there in an instant whereas the VTR’s tourqe and higher gear ratio takes you to the next change in a slightly longer timeframe. Having said, that I’m still keeping the revs on the 900 fairly low at the moment.
The higher gear ratio on the VTR meant that town riding would be in 4th or maybe 3rd a lot of the time. The Hornet in 6th will potter down to 40 without a moan.

Power delivery on the hornet is extremely smooth. So much so that you have to watch the needle carefully if you want to keep the bike below demerit level! Much less torque than the VTwin, for obvious reasons, but getting up there seems to be a touch quicker. I could be wrong and just lulled into this view due to the engine being so much quieter than the roaring VTR lump with the Two Brothers kicking out some obscene amount of noise on acceleration.
The hornet enters and exits the twisties beautifully, even on it’s current ‘uscrubbed’ tires and gives great feeling of confidence on the damp patches too.

Yep, this is a budget, entry level bike, but for what you get for your money, (I paid 10k for it brand new) I’m impressed. The 100k a day commute is more comfortable, cheaper and worry free compared to the VTR. And I’ve no doubt it’s going to be just as, if not much, MUCH more, fun!

All up, I love the Hornet. I was sad to get rid of my previous partner but having spent a few k’s with my new one I’ve nothing but happiness.

The VTR could be compared to something untamed, rugged and untrustworthy on many occasions. It was full of testosterone and yearning to be treated very badly.

In contrast the hornet is rather more hormonal and needing to be directed with more finesse. It’s responsive to the nth degree and exponentially more refined. Wine and dine her and she’ll give you pleasure of a gentle, but raging, sex kitten. If I were married I’d be having an affair right now. Sneaking out in the morning and returning late at night...

This bike at the least makes me feel like being a VERY naughty boy! And at most, an utter and outright hooligan! I’m certainly looking forward to some better weather, so I can find out what happens when she’s lost her virginity!

Toaster
26th July 2007, 12:01
Nice write up. I had a VTR and had the same impression. Heavy on fuel too. Still have the original pipes I want to flick off.

Enjoy the new toy.

Sparky Mark
26th July 2007, 12:04
Nice write up. I had a VTR and had the same impression. Heavy on fuel too. Still have the original pipes I want to flick off.

Enjoy the new toy.

Thanks mate. There's a few around at the moment. I found the best thing was the trade in. I only really lost 2k over 3 years so it wasn't too bad really.

skelstar
26th July 2007, 12:23
Great writeup Mark. Get flatter/lower bars and it will alleviate the sore/uncomfortable arse by HEAPS. Foot pegs haven't bothered me and the side stand thing didn't see to be an issue for me. You'll get used to it is my guess. Oh, and debaffle the mufflers for $0, just google "Hornet bafflectomy". PM me if you have any Q's. To be honest, I reckon it sounds better than a couple of Cycleworks pipes that I've heard on a brace of Hornets.

limbimtimwim will be along later to tell everyone that the Hornet is a snore-fest. Hes a noddy that has no problem stumping up with $5000 extra for something that is 50% faster 1% of the time ;)

Enjoy your new bike matey.

Sparky Bills
26th July 2007, 12:30
The hornets are a highly under-rated bike! As Skel said.. Chuck some lower bars on it. They will be wider than the originals too, so turning will become faster. That setup is great for piekok hill! They are VERY flickable with that setup and not many people would be able to keep up with it either.

Congrats either way.

Sparky Mark
26th July 2007, 12:39
The hornets are a highly under-rated bike! As Skel said.. Chuck some lower bars on it. They will be wider than the originals too, so turning will become faster. That setup is great for piekok hill! They are VERY flickable with that setup and not many people would be able to keep up with it either.

Congrats either way.


Great writeup Mark. Get flatter/lower bars and it will alleviate the sore/uncomfortable arse by HEAPS. Foot pegs haven't bothered me and the side stand thing didn't see to be an issue for me. You'll get used to it is my guess. Oh, and debaffle the mufflers for $0, just google "Hornet bafflectomy". PM me if you have any Q's. To be honest, I reckon it sounds better than a couple of Cycleworks pipes that I've heard on a brace of Hornets.

limbimtimwim will be along later to tell everyone that the Hornet is a snore-fest. Hes a noddy that has no problem stumping up with $5000 extra for something that is 50% faster 1% of the time ;)

Enjoy your new bike matey.

Thanks a lot guys. Duly noted. I guess it'll take a while to get used to then I'll start looking at some bits for the summer!

skelstar
26th July 2007, 12:58
Thanks a lot guys. Duly noted. I guess it'll take a while to get used to then I'll start looking at some bits for the summer!

Found the stock bars HORRIBLE after my Hyosung 250. Swept back and narrow. Get onto it real soon eh? Bars are cheap, and theres a thread around here somewhere about how to do it. The Hornetista will help out with advice.

Sparky Bills
26th July 2007, 13:04
I recomend a set of Ventura VH3 bars. Cost around $65 if I remember right.
My old flatmate has those bars on his hornet. Its at my place at the moment if you wanted to see it.

Kendog
26th July 2007, 22:16
Thanks a lot guys. Duly noted. I guess it'll take a while to get used to then I'll start looking at some bits for the summer!

Renthal ultra lows, excellent bars for this bike.

Have a look here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=32223) for some ideas on what you could do.

But beware the mod bug, you have a great bike for modding but it is addictive and costly.

Enjoy.

Renegade
26th July 2007, 23:26
just curious of what other bikes you rode before you settled on the honda, Z750,1000, or any others as im the same boat as you and am looking for some thing new and do like the look of the hornet but not sure if naked is me, any thoughts would be great.

Roj
1st August 2007, 12:23
And here I was thinking your partner was female and you were comparing the previous one to the current.:gob:

Not something I would recomend on a public forum:dodge:

Nice write up on your "partner"

MotoGirl
1st August 2007, 14:22
Nice change you made yourself there!
I owned an '02 VTR and thought it was just fabulous until my little whoopsie. I rode an '06 model about a year later and wondered why the hell I ever owned one :doh:

RantyDave
1st August 2007, 15:44
limbimtimwim will be along later to tell everyone that the Hornet is a snore-fest. Hes a noddy that has no problem stumping up with $5000 extra for something that is 50% faster 1% of the time ;)
Sheeesh! I've seen bikes wasted but I don't think I'd stick lbtw in that bucket - he does appear both able and willing to make them go. Mind you, hasn't he just downgraded to a 400 or something?

Dave

skelstar
1st August 2007, 16:15
Mind you, hasn't he just downgraded to a 400 or something?
A 400 single to be precise.

RantyDave
1st August 2007, 20:23
A 400 single to be precise.
Wow. Really? Wow. Off road bike, I take it?

Dave

madmal64
1st August 2007, 22:28
And here I was thinking your partner was female and you were comparing the previous one to the current.:gob:

Not something I would recomend on a public forum:dodge:

Nice write up on your "partner"

Mark I thought the same too:dodge:
I thought I saw you heading into Welly on Monday on the new bike. Your jacket was a give away.
Well Ive gone v2 and youve gone il4.
About time you and your "other" partner and me & mine got out for a wee scoot some time eh?
Good write up too btw

skelstar
1st August 2007, 23:10
Wow. Really? Wow. Off road bike, I take it?
DRZ400-SM (Sado-Masochist) 2005 (Black)

Sparky Mark
8th August 2007, 12:28
Mark I thought the same too:dodge:
I thought I saw you heading into Welly on Monday on the new bike. Your jacket was a give away.
Well Ive gone v2 and youve gone il4.
About time you and your "other" partner and me & mine got out for a wee scoot some time eh?
Good write up too btw

Hey Mal! PM'd you earlier mate, and just seen this...

madmal64
8th August 2007, 12:47
LOL yep just got it!
Be in touch soon.
Be good to catch up