View Full Version : First commute experience and "confidence to filter/split on the highway??"
Stromble
1st August 2007, 18:08
Hey all.. Thought Id share my first experience of a commute to work on my new bike..
This morning I left early, so had a pretty good run down SH1 into Auckland, was feeling quite confident and proud of myself, in addition to feeling quite buzzed as opposed to the usual blah car ride... quite an easy ride all in all, went at 5:45 so very little traffic..
Then came the time to go home.. left town at 4:30, nicely onto the motorway off fanshawe street, traffic free flowing over the bridge, a little windy but stayed well out in the center of the lane to allow for a little deviance etc.. Cars around me seemed to give plenty of room which was nice. Then things started to slooooooowwww down.. the natural response to this (being a cage driver and a nooby) was to stop in line with the traffic..
So there I was, stop start, stop start.... pulling over to the right of the center lane looking down the nice empty and what seemed like a reasonably wide channel of road to go down.. but hesitating to enter...
After 5 mins (yes impatient!) of this stop start business (emulating the car behaviour) and an aching clutch hand, sick of putting my feet down every 10 meters, I plucked up a little courage to enter the empty void...
So, in I went, not so confidently, but trying to remember that the bike is quite a narrow machine and would easily fit here.. a couple of mins of this and I was relatively comfortable, and the cages seemed to pull over to the right to allow a little more space (except for the odd cellphone user who just sat on the white line oblivous to the world around them).
Traffic started to speed upto 30kmhish and back in line with the traffic I went. Then all ground to a halt again.. "Right", I thought, "Time to go again"... pulled over to the right to take a look down what seemed to be a much narrower channel than before, cars scattered all over the place, on the line, over the line, I just couldnt be confident that I could safely negotiate this, so chickened and stayed in line with the traffic again.
Pulled off at Wairau road and figured Id cut across and go up Beach road upto Browns Bay. Again, more stationary traffic, but only till the next roundabout. Though there I am, sat in line with the cars on pretty much blind bends (if you know beach road), all cars sat close to the center double yellow lines so no real room to do any thing and I mustve counted 4 fellow bikers passing me and all the other cars on the wrong side of the yellow lines on bends where theres no way you can see whats coming.. scary...
I suppose theres "confidence" and then just outright risky...
mdooher
1st August 2007, 18:17
Sounds all fairly sensible to me. You know when you feel comfortable and there is no reason to go outside your comfort zone.
I remember reading this on a bike site somewhere " If you are in a hurry take your car" ...good words to live by.
crashe
1st August 2007, 18:32
Good on you for giving it a go.....
Maybe the next time you will feel a bit more confident in going longer in your lane splitting/filtering.
Another way is to get with another rider to ride just ahead of you to show you the way.
Just make sure that they go at a slow speed and keeping an eye out for you.
That way it will also help you with confidence.
I was lane-splitting from the southern motorway, and came across a dude on a GN250. Pulled up beside him as it looked like he was gonna be there forever.
I asked "Do you want to lane split?"
"yep and but never done it before" was his answer.
I said "Do you want to learn how to do it?"
He said "Hell yeah"
"Ok follow me" I said and off we went...... at a slow speed and when he felt he couldnt get past trucks or buses (they must have freaked him out) I pulled back in and waited until he caught back up.
We went all the way from way out south until I pulled off at Tat South as he was heading towards Henderson etc.
babyblade250rr
1st August 2007, 19:17
Yeah good on ya for giving a go!! i've attempted this with minimal distances still building confidence with this, Always worried that some idiots gona pull out right infront of me, But i guess as most KB'ers will say practice makes percfect
fireliv
1st August 2007, 19:24
I know how you feel. I'm still new to the riding up the middle thing, and will only do it on wide roads. Its people of scooters that always seam happy to pull out and go for it... I always sit there and think what a dick.
The other problem I have is when I get to the front of the line there is always some jumped up boy racer who believes that I wanna take them on...idiots
Nasty
1st August 2007, 20:56
Way to go ... ain't it fun to be able to ride to work and back and remain in one piece :) .... I split when I can and when it is too narrow or the cars and in and out like jackrabbits I don't ... safety first ... if you are uncomfortable it is safer not to split ... and you did just great. I only split in traffic going under 30 kms ... jsut cos i can .. .and rarely with faster ... though once or twice I felt confident at 40 .... its a time thing .. take time and learn :)
carbacca
1st August 2007, 21:28
good on ya dude.....i have had my hyobag for a while now but i still take the cage to work...i dont think i m ready to tackle the souther motorway at rush hour just yet. yeah lane splittings what scares me really or i can sit in traffic on a bike like a dork. but whats the fun in that.....
discotex
1st August 2007, 22:05
What everyone else said... Being aware of your comfort zone and not trying to prove anything is going to save your arse on Auckland's roads. Splitting is scary adrenaline laced shit to begin with so I'm impressed you kept your cool. :rockon:
There's a whole thread on splitting but here's my tips from 6 months of splitting peak hour to and from work on the Northern and Norwestern.
- Split and stay split. Starting splitting is the nerveracking thing to begin with. If the traffic gets up to your comfort speed just stay in the splitting part of the lane and resume splitting when it slows down again. Obviously if the traffic gets fully up to speed and looks like it's staying that way go back to the right wheel track (or left if you're in the far right lane). If you see traffic slowing up ahead just drift to the splitting part of the lane as you slow down.
- Don't let the relative speed get too high. If the cars are going at 5km/h don't go at 50km/h just because that's your splitting speed. I aim for 10-20km/h difference in speed up to a max of 50km/h. I.e. if the cars are stopped I'll be doing 20km/h. If they're doing 30km/h I'll do 40ish. If they're doing 50 I'll do 50. If they're going faster I just cruise with the traffic.
- Check for other bikes before you start splitting. No need to take eachother out eh? :shit:
- Cover a brake - I prefer the front brake as unlike the rear it can stop the bike on a dime at ~40km/h.
- When there are 3 cage lanes I split in the right-most "bike lane" - less cages jump lanes between the outer lanes as they're not fighting to get on or off the motorway.
- Watch for gaps and the relative speed of each lane. If you're in a gap big enough for a car and/or the lane you're kinda in is going faster someone will jump lanes either infront or on-top of you. The old saying that people are actively trying to kill you really applies when splitting - especially the southern!
- If you can, acknowledge the drivers that make an overt effort to move over. Some of them even like bikers...
Stromble
2nd August 2007, 16:03
Thanks guys, some great support and advice so far.. The biggest thing seems to be the confidence, once I'm in the "split zone" things seem to fall into place. Certainly like your idea of staying there, seems much more logical than falling back inline and out again.. thanks for the tip!:rockon:
ManDownUnder
2nd August 2007, 16:22
Thanks guys, some great support and advice so far.. The biggest thing seems to be the confidence, once I'm in the "split zone" things seem to fall into place. Certainly like your idea of staying there, seems much more logical than falling back inline and out again.. thanks for the tip!:rockon:
Yeah a general rule of thumb I use is to stay in the split zone (as you call it - like it!) and when I merge back in... stay visible the side mirror of the car you're behind.
You're visible, in the lane, and can much more easily resume using the split zone.
Kittyhawk
2nd August 2007, 16:30
Practise! Start slow.....rush hour traffic at snail pace.
Check ya mirrors often, and use prephial vision for indicators.
Relax, dont tense, if you ride over cats eyes dont fight the bike go with it.
Mentally prepare yourself, if a car pulls out what are your options where is your next escape route if it happens?
Avoid lane splitting where there are onramps, I usualy split between the first two lanes closest to the barriers, less traffic changes that way.
BigRed2007
2nd August 2007, 19:16
very nice mate, easy does it!
jrandom
2nd August 2007, 19:19
Keep your speed differential under 30kph. You'll avoid 'moments', and the cops won't worry about you when you go past.
Even within that tame boundary, an Auckland motorway commute that would take over an hour by cage can be an easy sub-20-minute ride.
Congratulations on taking the first step along the path to filtering enlightenment.
aroberts
2nd August 2007, 19:32
Good on ya.
I'm back on the bike after a few years and was very nervous to start with but I can tell you it gets easier.
All the points mentioned above are good but I reckon the main one is to watch the gaps. I always assume someone is going to change lanes if there is a gap. I have been right a few times about that now. I just wish the horn on my bike didn't sound so pathetic.
SlowHand
2nd August 2007, 19:58
And lookout for other murdersickles before commencing ghost riding procedure. Someone could be running late, armed with an uncaliberated ass-o-meter, with the amp and guitar both on 11, ready to run down a trainee badge wearing ghost rider.
bull
2nd August 2007, 23:50
I had all of 2 months riding experience when i did my first lane splitting commute to Wellington, felt rather strange being out in nowhere land between the cars, made me fall back in line with the cars to feel right.
Then i had an opportunity to follow Riffer into work for 3 days so pretty much just went in behind him the whole way - was definitely the best way to get the confidence up and now im happy as larry to split as much as possible when on the way to work. Saves a heap of time and i feel safer being able to see clearly ahead between the traffic than trying to see over or through the cars. As noted earlier - make sure you keep an eye in your mirrors so as not to hold up the quicker splitters out there.
Pancakes
4th August 2007, 20:29
Hard out, just do what your happy doing and you'll be around tomorrow to learn even more. Do be sure to have a good look before pulling into the "bike lane". Would be a shame to give the cars the joy of seeing a bike pile-up! I nearly put a little clock on my bike cos I got given a waterproof one but decided not to. Don't feel pushed to get anywhere on your bike outside of your own timeframe. On the odd occaision I'm late and if my boss asks I'm happy to say "it wasn't the day/conditions for a quick one" and he knows thats it, I'm not risking my life for a few of someone else's dollars!
Katman
7th August 2007, 19:45
Check ya mirrors often, and use prephial vision for indicators.
Why on earth would you bother to check your mirrors? When you're lane-splitting the only things that are likely to affect you will happen beside or in front of you.
Kittyhawk
7th August 2007, 23:56
Why on earth would you bother to check your mirrors? When you're lane-splitting the only things that are likely to affect you will happen beside or in front of you.
You have to be observant all around.
Katman
8th August 2007, 08:18
Sorry, but when you're lane splitting the only need for your mirrors is the very occasional glance to make sure you're not holding up other motorcyclists. Any further use of the mirrors is diverting your attention away from where the hazards are.
janno
8th August 2007, 08:35
Sorry, but when you're lane splitting the only need for your mirrors is the very occasional glance to make sure you're not holding up other motorcyclists. Any further use of the mirrors is diverting your attention away from where the hazards are.
Disagree. Needs to be more than occasional. You should have plenty of brainspace to be aware 360 degrees, as you usually are on the road. I can't comment on NZ, but in Brisbane you frequently get lane splitting bikes going at radically different speeds, and it's hard to hear a bike coming up directly behind you in heavy traffic. I've often had a lane splitting mcyclist come up behind me going like stink, and I'll let him past. And that's not me crawling along, just that about 85% of lane splitters here seem to follow the 20 - 30k faster than traffic rule, and the rest wanna play fighter pilot.
Including the guy going prolly 70km when a few of us other bikes were going 20 - 30k lane splitting. We then all trundled past said biker on the side of the road having a wee chat with Mr Plod . . . karma!
Katman
8th August 2007, 11:12
Well I disagree also. Any motorcyclist coming up behind you has the option of moving to another lane to continue their splitting or to wait behind you until you notice them and can safely move out of their way. I did four years couriering in London where we spend more time lane splitting then we did in a lane. Using you mirrors any more than very occasionally is diverting your attention away from where it needs to be.
ambler
10th August 2007, 23:59
Well I've been splitting from the first day I ever rode, it's the only way to ride a bike here. I've never been particularly concerned about any faster bikes coming up behind me - if I happen to notice them I will move out of the way, but I don't bother to keep on the lookout.
It's the guy coming from behind who has to worry about getting past, not the slower rider. Sometimes I am the fast one but I've never had any problem, since there are n+1 bike-lanes for every n cage-lanes, you're unlikely to ever get held up.
MrMeow
13th August 2007, 07:11
why is it that whenever i split up to an intersection/lights, the middleaged commodore driver next to me at the lights thinks we are in a drag race...?
90s
14th August 2007, 09:40
Well I disagree also ... I did four years couriering in London where we spend more time lane splitting then we did in a lane.
Sure me too, but can't agree with you there.
London traffic and bike riders are much more regular that here.
Lanesplit every day on the SH16 and the traffic starts / slows more like the M25. Bikes lanesplit in and out of the traffic; some like me prefer to do cars+20kph :scooter:, others like to do 100kph whatever the speed of the cages.
And some of those 100kph guys find that L-plate 250s moving out to split as the taffic slows are all on them.
So basically everyone needs to do mirror checks splitting, except the 100kph guys. And they should be aware of the 140kph guys who hang out on here sometimes too ...
Griff
14th August 2007, 09:43
Well done on the lane splitting front!
:niceone:
Swoop
14th August 2007, 09:48
Disagree. Needs to be more than occasional. You should have plenty of brainspace to be aware 360 degrees,
The danger is in front of you.
An occasional mirror check to make sure you are not holding back other bikes.
Griff
14th August 2007, 09:55
why is it that whenever i split up to an intersection/lights, the middleaged commodore driver next to me at the lights thinks we are in a drag race...?
I used to think that all the cages were trying to race me off the line at lights. Then I just figured out:
A. They are not driving a manual car where you have to judge where the accelerator bites into the clutch. They just stamp on the accelerator and let the car do the gear changing.
B. I got sick of wearing out my rear tyre with fast starts.
C. I get MUCH more fun by zipping past them later on.
D. I get STACKS of fun, when they snarl up in a jam and I bimble past them waving.
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