Should Maverick publicly disclose the start time and location of his ride?

[McJim]

I got to wondering about this and thought "Is it pseudo paranoia or will the police really stake out our ride?"

Personally I have no fear of the ride being publicly announced but then there is a certain amount of doubt as to whether my bike can actually break the open road speed limit! :rofl:

So the question is do you think Maverick should announce the start time and location of his 250 ride or should he wait until the 11th hour when everyone is asleep, announce the ride by PM only to find that 90% of riders were still asleep at the time the ride starts and haven't even read their PM!?

[westie]

Maybe a meet time and brief there and then.
Being aucklanders maybe a coffee place?

[jrandom]

Just start from a location that doesn't make the ride route itself particularly obvious, and brief everyone when they turn up.

Of course, anyone riding within legal limits won't have anything to worry about. And everyone always rides within legal limits, don't they? Particularly learner riders.

:innocent:

[jrandom]

You know, if I were a traffic cop boss, I'd be sending bike cops on STs or beemers to tag along on the KB rides. Just, you know, turn up, chat, ride along in the middle of the pack.

Wouldn't generate as many tickets as, say, staking out the straights on the ATNR route, but it'd probably halve the number of bins.

I wonder why they don't?

[canarlee]

down here in the sunny hawkes bay we have a meet place and time, and discuss where we are going when we get there!


of course the cops are watching the site, who could blame them? its easy pickings innit!

[Maverick]

I got to wondering about this and thought "Is it pseudo paranoia or will the police really stake out our ride?"

Personally I have no fear of the ride being publicly announced but then there is a certain amount of doubt as to whether my bike can actually break the open road speed limit! :rofl:

So the question is do you think Maverick should announce the start time and location of his 250 ride or should he wait until the 11th hour when everyone is asleep, announce the ride by PM only to find that 90% of riders were still asleep at the time the ride starts and haven't even read their PM!?

Oh stop shit stirring :innocent: I always post up the details long enough in advance,

[McJim]

You know, if I were a traffic cop boss, I'd be sending bike cops on STs or beemers to tag along on the KB rides. Just, you know, turn up, chat, ride along in the middle of the pack.

Wouldn't generate as many tickets as, say, staking out the straights on the ATNR route, but it'd probably halve the number of bins.

I wonder why they don't?

Had an PM conversation with Bikey Cop about just that. He thought that was a good idea. I advised that as far as I was concerned he was more than welcome to tag along. It's all down to shifts though since he probably wouldn't be allowed to attend in an official capacity, rather he would show up on his own bike in civvies.

I've only met police twice in 3 years in NZ - once when a bke cop was getting his rear tyre replaced at cycletreads - affable enough bloke and once when they attended my accident (when I got T boned). Very pleasant once again.

If any cops turn up - in civvies or uniform - I'll be more than happy to give them the time of day.

[Maha]

Only if he knows where it is himself.....:dodge:
I had two meet points on a ride a while ago, at the first point, we had company and he followed us to the main meet point and parked about 20mts away....so R6Kid thought it a good idea to mono past him, didnt work so Zrxer went and had a word with him...turned out he wasnt that bad. He gave us a riders briefing for about 10 mins and left us too it, guess he could see we were pillars of the community and responable bikers.....:scooter:

[McJim]

down here in the sunny hawkes bay we have a meet place and time, and discuss where we are going when we get there!


of course the cops are watching the site, who could blame them? its easy pickings innit!

Sounds good to me - All I am advocating is to reveal the start point and time.

[jrandom]

I've only met police twice in 3 years in NZ...

Luxury.

I've met police, one particular KB bike cop, in fact, twice in two days.

I think he enjoyed making me piss myself by staking me out and nicking me in the same place for the same offence twice within 24 hours.

I guess I shouldn't have tipped him off by posting a whinge about the first one so promptly...

[canarlee]

Sounds good to me - All I am advocating is to reveal the start point and time.

yeah thats what we do!


we meet at the same place and time everyweek, then we discuss where we are going!

we also had a cop with us (in civvies etc) a few weeks ago, nice bloke he was too!

he was in the lead for quite a while and we wernt going too slow either! most of them arent that bothered, just so long as its all done safely!

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Only if he knows where it is hinself.....:dodge:
I had two meet points on a ride a while ago, at the first point, we had company and he followed us to the main meet point and parked about 20mts away....so R6Kid thought it a good idea to mono past him, didnt work so Zrxer went and had a word with him...turned out he wasnt that bad. He gave us a riders briefing for about 10 mins and left us too it, guess he could see we were pillars of the community and responable bikers.....:scooter:
NO HE SAW THAT IT WAS A MAHA RIDE

[canarlee]

NO HE SAW THAT IT WAS A MAHA RIDE

baaaahahahahahaha



*would award bling but am unable till the end of october lol*

[gijoe1313]

I actually like this secret squirrel operation Maverick runs! :lol: All sorts of hulla-balloo about "where and when and where is Mav?" sort of carry-on!

All in the best tradition of anarchy and smoke and mirrors! :msn-wink:

[Donor]

So the question is do you think Maverick should announce the start time and location of his 250 ride or should he wait until the 11th hour when everyone is asleep, announce the ride by PM only to find that 90% of riders were still asleep at the time the ride starts and haven't even read their PM!?

WTFC? - Not I said the Donor man...

HOWEVER...

If people REALLY want to go for a ride, they'll lay off the sauce for a night, and keep a close eye on the inbox.

If they can't be bothered, then clearly they're not in it for the right reasons, and are welcome to sleep past the start time.

I now refer back to my initial question in this post...

[Krayy]

I think everyones been overly paranoid......unless a post like this comes along:


Dear Mr Plod,

Just to let you know that I've been having a hard week and need to blow off a little steam. To that effect, I will be doing my bike maintenance tonight in order to get out to the Bombay Caltex for a 9am launch time. I will be proceeding over the Bombay hills for a warm up, and will probably take things easy, but by the time I get to the Miranda turn off, I'll be well up to speed.

I will try to crack the ton at around 9:25am on the Miranda straights, and also be using the full width of the road by crossing the centre line at each of the flowing bends and will enter that little town where you turn off to Thames at around 90km/h, so I'll be well over the limit, I can tell you.

etc, etc.

[Matt Bleck]

Your getting paranoid!

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[gijoe1313]

Your not being paranoid enough!

[TLMAN]

I really dont think that there would be many if any cops that would read posts on these forums in order to target riders. I think the ones that are out there already know where the good bike roads are and just randomly hang there on weekend days etc, hoping to catch a silly bugger having a moment of madness.

[ManDownUnder]

You be really tricky and tell Mr Plod you'll be at once meeting place then go to another one, and ride past the first one giggling as you ride past.

Can you imagine how annoyed the Police would be.

Or no show up at all and just leave a small note sayig "Ha ha - tricked you. No Police allowed!"

[Pancakes]

You know, if I were a traffic cop boss, I'd be sending bike cops on STs or beemers to tag along on the KB rides. Just, you know, turn up, chat, ride along in the middle of the pack.

Wouldn't generate as many tickets as, say, staking out the straights on the ATNR route, but it'd probably halve the number of bins.

I wonder why they don't?

Answered your own question a! Boss, manager, promoted because they get results that are tangible on paper?

In Oz the cops have drag cars and go to the races as part of their job to do PR work. Some guys from over there I know recon it goes down real well, I understand they have a bit more aggro from the street racers there than in NZ but the cops form the drags get a bit less stick from their "customers".

[Scouse]

...so R6Kid thought it a good idea to mono past him, didnt work Neither did r6's mono in fact that wasn't a mono it was like 1 cm for 1 second no wonder the cop ignored it.

[discotex]

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you....... :shifty:

[Littleman]

I think everyones been overly paranoid......unless a post like this comes along:


Dear Mr Plod,

Just to let you know that I've been having a hard week and need to blow off a little steam. To that effect, I will be doing my bike maintenance tonight in order to get out to the Bombay Caltex for a 9am launch time. I will be proceeding over the Bombay hills for a warm up, and will probably take things easy, but by the time I get to the Miranda turn off, I'll be well up to speed.

I will try to crack the ton at around 9:25am on the Miranda straights, and also be using the full width of the road by crossing the centre line at each of the flowing bends and will enter that little town where you turn off to Thames at around 90km/h, so I'll be well over the limit, I can tell you.

etc, etc.

Nice post, good to mock those that think they are worthy of such scrutiny.

They simply aren't that important.

[R6_kid]

Nice post, good to mock those that think they are worthy of such scrutiny.

They simply aren't that important.

You mean because he'll be riding alone, whereas following a large group would yield more revenue?

[Hanne]

That uni bike ride you came along on Mav was advertised as a 100k but fine for learners ride, although it wasnt as publicly known as putting the post up here.

I doubt that cops would bother with this sort've thing, sure the possibility might be there if we were talking about really hoofing it, but at the end of the day its 100k :sunny: and you have to learn to ride at that speed sooner or later.

Hell, if they were that intent on busting us, why not pose as a 250 rider :lol: I give general descriptions of a route, auckland -> Wellsford via the west says enough :)

[Squiggles]

^^ DOH! *10chars*

[breakaway]

Should Maverick publicly disclose the start time and location of his ride?

No.

Not after what happened on ATNR.

[scracha]

I've only met police twice in 3 years in NZ - once when a bke cop was getting his rear tyre replaced at cycletreads - affable enough bloke and once when they attended my accident (when I got T boned). Very pleasant once again.


You obviously never met the bastard I had to deal with on my first and last 250 ride. Disgrace to the farce he was. I dare say had I been a kiwi yokel I'd have got it reduced by a few km's and he might have listened to common sense.

[Grahameeboy]

Only if he knows where it is himself.....:dodge:
I had two meet points on a ride a while ago, at the first point, we had company and he followed us to the main meet point and parked about 20mts away....so R6Kid thought it a good idea to mono past him, didnt work so Zrxer went and had a word with him...turned out he wasnt that bad. He gave us a riders briefing for about 10 mins and left us too it, guess he could see we were pillars of the community and responable bikers.....:scooter:

Yep was there..was a Brit Cop wasn't he.....good image

[Gremlin]

some cops are good, some cops are bad, like any industry. I've had the fortune and misfortune to meet cops from both.

Should mav put details in public? completely up to him. Its his ride. I put up details for very public rides, etc, the rest, very few details. My ride, my organisation. Sure, Mav's rides require you to register... if you don't like it, no-one is forcing you to go.

Do cops watch this forum? Of course they do. On the ATNR, you speed in some places, sorry, but you're a complete idiot. They put cars up there deliberately, and you guys keep speeding. Down the same straights, same time, same day of week etc. It doesn't take a genius. :weird:

[Donor]

I really can't believe this thread has lasted more than a page...

[Morcs]

only post it up publicy if you are fast and skilled enough to bunk...

even if they do, i doubt anyone would be walking... most 250's need a runway to do that much over the limit.

[EJK]

Hmm... this poll is very competitive... lol
both has some good points.
Hard decision poll lol