Stupid cage drivers

[babyblade250rr]

Right so had a small episode today,

Had the day off work today and notice the weather was just too good for me not to go for a ride!. So off i set decided to go for a run through town, newmarket, Mission Bay!.

All was successful untill riding back from mission bay along tamaki drive just as you come over that little bridge thingy before the mini golf place, When this stupid women drives up along side me and starts pulling into my lane!! (She was in the left and i was in the right lane heading towards the city)

She obviously saw me as she was the one who drove up next to me, So anyhow she's changing into my lane and trying to push me on the other side of the road so i beeped (with the little horn my babyblade has) but she would have still herd it considering her window was fully down. There was oncoming traffic so just gassing it down the wrong side of the road to safety was not an option infact i had no option either get nailed by her or have a head on with oncoming traffic!! (Please note there was a car right infront of me so i was boxed in or couldn't just brake super hard with fear of a huge lock up!)

So within that couple of seconds which felt like Matrix slow motion i had to do something, So i did the first thing that came to mind as i felt death creeping up and sitting on my shoulder. I put my foot out and proceeded to break her wing mirror, Funny enough this solved the problem she jumped right back in the lane where she should have been, I felt like making her pull over and abusing the living bergeezzeezz out of her but calm i stayed and carried on with my journey.

I have a question for you guys and girls, Did i do the right thing? was breaking the wing mirror on a late model audi the best option considering my circumstance? it did seem to work after all

[canarlee]

shoulda made her pull up and scared the shit outta her even more!

[Mole_C]

Fair enough, u tried to make her aware of you and that didn't work. If there is no other way to escape and a boot to the door or mirror will save you then go for it. Or even better, if you can reach just punch her in the face.

[babyblade250rr]

:gob:believe me i was close to it!! but it's quite possible i may have killed her so a few deep breaths and off i went

[jim.cox]

Did i do the right thing?

was breaking the wing mirror on a late model audi the best option considering my circumstance?

it did seem to work after all

Yes and Yes.

A fist or palm banged onto the roof of the car also works == a very loud bang inside the vehicle. Plus if you are lucky you can leave a nice big dint.

Did you get the rego?

[Spuds1234]

:gob:believe me i was close to it!! but it's quite possible i may have killed her so a few deep breaths and off i went

Dont worry about dude. If you had of killed her I doubt anyone would be crying about it. Least of all bikers.

If she thought she had the right to push you out of your lane into on comming traffic/certain death then she deserves everything she got/gets.

I hope the wing mirror is incredibly expensive to repair.



I have had an experience like this.

I was driving along and a lady started to change into my lane right next to me, I moved over to get out of the way and being on a 250 couldnt exactly speed up, and I had a car behind me so I couldnt brake. She pushed me over into the right hand side of my lane, almost to the center of the road so I knocked on her driver side window. She got the shock of her life and did the quickest lane change back into the other lane I have ever seen.

If she had of had a Jesus bar in her car I think she would have used it.

I have no sympathy for drivers like this. How hard is it to look at where your going to go and making sure its clear before you go?

[babyblade250rr]

Yes and Yes.

A fist or palm banged onto the roof of the car also works == very loud bnag inside the vehicle. Plus if you are lucky you can leave a nice big dint.

Did you get the rego?

No damn i didn't get the rego i was fuming and didn't think about that

[0arbreaka]

Shoulda kicked a big fuckin dent in her door as well that woulda caused her to keep in her bloody lane in the future and maybe make her abit more aware of bikers

[babyblade250rr]

Dont worry about dude. If you had of killed her I doubt anyone would be crying about it. Least of all bikers.

If she thought she had the right to push you out of your lane into on comming traffic/certain death then she deserves everything she got/gets.

I hope the wing mirror is incredibly expensive to repair.



I have had an experience like this.

I was driving along and a lady started to change into my lane right next to me, I moved over to get out of the way and being on a 250 couldnt exactly speed up, and I had a car behind me so I couldnt brake. She pushed me over into the right hand side of my lane, almost to the center of the road so I knocked on her driver side window. She got the shock of her life and did the quickest lane change back into the other lane I have ever seen.

If she had of had a Jesus bar in her car I think she would have used it.

I have no sympathy for drivers like this. How hard is it to look at where your going to go and making sure its clear before you go?

atleast it seems she didn't know that you were there! this idiotic women must have knew i was there as she had to drive up side me, Damn that makes me so angry

[Spuds1234]

atleast it seems she didn't know that you were there! this idiotic women must have new i was there as she had to drive up side me, Damn that makes me so angry

You and me both. I read threads like this and it gets me pretty riled up lol.

[Jantar]

I have only ever experienced this sort of driving once. 30 years ago this december in Wellington, I found that a heavy boot can dent the door of an almost new Falcon. :yes:

I also know that the woman driver saw me and decided that she deserved my lane more than I did.

[BMW]

I also had an incident like this, They knew I was there too. When they stopped at the next interestion I rode along side them and tapped the drivers window. This guy ( with wife telling him off) locked all the doors and closed his window. he knew what he had done.
Wish I had broken his late modle BMW mirror off like you did.

More bikers should!

[jim.cox]

You and me both. I read threads like this and it gets me pretty riled up lol.

Take a chill pill and go for a ride. The "Manic Ducati Smile" effect will kick in after just a couple of K's.

Works for me :)

[discotex]

When this stupid women drives up along side me and starts pulling into my lane!! (She was in the left and i was in the right lane heading towards the city)

She obviously saw me as she was the one who drove up next to me,

Had a private bus do exactly that to me on the motorway. If they just drift over or chop lanes it's bad enough but to come from behind and do it is total bullshit and a call for any means required to stop you from being run over.

That said I work on the premise that they might react in an unpredictable way (freak out and swerve into you either on purpose or by mistake etc) so I save kicking the door as a last resort.

[babyblade250rr]

I also had an incident like this, They knew I was there too. When they stopped at the next interestion I rode along side them and tapped the drivers window. This guy ( with wife telling him off) locked all the doors and closed his window. he knew what he had done.
Wish I had broken his late modle BMW mirror off like you did.

More bikers should!

Well i must say to anyone that gets into this situation in the future breaking a wing mirror does work! well it worked for me as someone said below just keep an eye on them if you do something like that as you never know how they will react.

[Storm]

You did the right thing mate, you gave the dozey bitch a chance to sort herself out, and due to her incredibly selfish and arrogant behaviour were left with no choice. You gave her a free get out of jail, and she ripped it up, so she deserves a phenominally massive and expensive bill for her mirror/ being a fucktard.



(so much for trying not to get riled up in my reply eh ? :) )

[breakaway]

Did you break the mirror clean off?

Tip: Next time you do something like this, don't post it. Well please do, but pretend it's a hypothetical situation. Because this can be used as evidence or some shit. I've seen it before.

[Mom]

Yes and Yes.

A fist or palm banged onto the roof of the car also works == a very loud bang inside the vehicle. Plus if you are lucky you can leave a nice big dint.

Did you get the rego?

Lets hope the driver did not get BB's as well!


Well i must say to anyone that gets into this situation in the future breaking a wing mirror does work! well it worked for me as someone said below just keep an eye on them if you do something like that as you never know how they will react.

Good on you!!! You reacted well, hope you did not hurt yourself when that mirror got so close to you :yes:

[Squiggles]

Nice work, you gave them warning and it was knocking a mirror or being in a very bad place. They should consider themselves lucky its only a mirror, not someone elses life.

[jtzzr]

You did well mate , good self-preservation skills ,Glad you fucked up her mirror , fuckin shit bag slut deserved it and probably more.:done:

[Grahameeboy]

I sometimes think that they know you are there but expect you to get out of the way..if she had her window down how could she not hear you.......

[sprag]

by any chance was she blonde with those dumb arse big sunglasses on and also talking on the cellphone and holding her small dog and trying to drive at the same time LOL.

Nah good on ya mate, i would have done the same, might pay to start taking water bombs with ya, that way if the window is open just throw them in LOL :)

I have found that women that drive audi's that are blonde with those big sunglasses are just dumb, cutting people off, speeding up then slowing right down, always texting, talking on the cellphone or looking in the mirror and doing there hair, all going at over 100km's

[beyond]

Reading this sort of stuff makes me steam :angry:

Mate, it was you or her. In the USA they just pull a .357 and blow the problem away.

You did good. Green bling coming.

Not generalising here and I'm not chauvanist either but some woman behind the wheel of a Euro think they own the road and that a motocyclist is vermin that can be snubbed out at will. Many of them will never let you in when you indicate in a cage getting onto the motorway as well. You are meant to merge like a zip but hell they won't give an inch and pretend you aren't there.

Lucky it was a woman though as self preservation is foremost in their minds at times like that. If it had been a bloke and he saw his wing mirror hanging off his prode and joy it would be like losing a nut to a rabid dog. He would probably have tried to ram you into oncoming traffic in a fit of rage. It happens :(

In this case... good o ya mate :yes:

[avenger]

I think this is a common story for many bikers eh - I've had similar happen twice to me in one week!

First off a guy in a falcon changed into my lane on the south eastern highway before the lights at Carbine Rd.
Just saw him out of my peripherals and managed to pull into the other lane.

Pulled in front of him at the traffic lights, pointed then shook my fist at him.
Fuck that was tempting to break off one of his side mirrors.

Second time on the southern motorway a van bloody did the same thing.



I mean you can kind of understand if your nipping in between cars on the motorway and someone cuts you off.
We all have to kinda take responsibility there - but if your in the middle of your lane, car drives up beside you, then changes into ya lane thats just fukn retarded.


One thing I do now is never stay the same speed as the traffic whenever possible - always around 10K faster. - ya get noticed easier.
Just be assertive around other traffic and YOU make the move and take control (within reason) - otherwise we tend to get taken advantage of.

[jafar]

Oh a mirrorectomy, well done. A boot in the door or a fist in the head for arsewipes like that, is all the same in the end. :angry:

[oldrider]

As you get older you will not be flexible enough to do that any more, thoughts of "Stebel Horns" begin to enter the consciousness!

I can't lift my leg high enough to kick the mirror! But I can still lift my thumb high enough to reach the horn button! "STEBEL"

Yep, that should do it! (can't wait.) (lol) Think I will buy two!

G'd-onyah, well done!. :yes: Cheers John.

[discotex]

Pulled in front of him at the traffic lights, pointed then shook my fist at him.
Fuck that was tempting to break off one of his side mirrors.


I have one of those moments almost every week. Haven't broken one off yet but I've pushed a couple forward just to make a point.

A mate suggested opening the rear door just before the lights go green. All the better if you can do the one on the far side of the car. Could be quite an effective message if they're left to get out and close it with a bunch of cars stuck behind. No chance of wilful damage charges either. :innocent:

[fireliv]

Hasnt happened to me but I know that my partner left a huge scrap along the side of a car with the titanium slider on his boot..........

Such idiots!

[ambler]

A taxi once tried to go through a give way and almost took out my wife riding in front of me, so I followed up with a boot to his door. But strangely I more often feel like kicking stationary cars here, when I'm stuck in traffic which I could get through 'if only that dumbarse was a bit further' over, y'know... I only actually did that once though, in one of the worst traffic jams I had seen going into Shinjuku this woman had actually parked on the side of the road. When I finally managed to get past, I stopped by the drivers door and gave it a kick. That's highly uncharacteristic of me though...
I prefer it when karma helps you out, like another time, in the left lane turning left at the lights, had already waited a couple of changes of lights there, then just when I was thinking that 'yes this time I will get through', the guy in the mercedes in front of me stops and parks right there at the front of the lights, crammed up against a fence on the left (big black mercedes are immune to parking tickets here). Well I had missed the lights again but since he was a little over to the left now I could get alongside, and sat there right next to his door so he couldn't get out. His left side door was blocked by the fence so he had to sit in there until I decided to leave :D

[Boob Johnson]

Yep good on ya mate, you did what you could, didn't work so evasive move required. Personally I would done exactly what you did or a kick to the door & followed her to have rather unpleasant words, that is just farkin retarded. WTF are people on, coming up behind you then pushing you over like you don't exist?

I understand what it is between cars n bikes, there's no real threat in there mind with a bike, weather it be conscious or sub (mostly sub id say).

I saw a motorbike courier pull up next to a car at the lights kick off the guys wing mirror then unleashed a barrage of verbal abuse at the driver, I was just sitting there pissing myself laughing (in my cage) thinkin fuckin oath that's the least he could of done.



ps: who is the moron that voted he overreacted? 38 no's & 1 yes???


Hello??????

[swbarnett]

was breaking the wing mirror on a late model audi the best option considering my circumstance? it did seem to work after all
The defensive thing to do would've been to ease off the throttle as soon as it became obvious that she was moving over regardless of your presence and let her in. Abuse can come after you're sure your safe.

However, given that you were trapped I think anything you had to do to get her attention would be justified. I dented the bonnet of a taxi once that tried to park on me and my bicycle. Even had a cop try the same thing but they reacted to the horn. Had a friend that kept an iron bar on hand for just such occasions.

[klyong82]

You did the right thing Babyblade. Happen to me once when I was still on my 250. I used my carbon knuckles to give a knock on the driver window. Driver went back own lane, I accelerated and gave the finger. Accelerated further. This was a nissan sentra.

[Disco Dan]

If she had of had a Jesus bar in her car I think she would have used it.

*bling* for being someone else that uses the term 'jesus handle' - because that what you usually say if your grabbing on to it!

[avenger]

A mate suggested opening the rear door just before the lights go green. All the better if you can do the one on the far side of the car.:innocent:

That is brilliant!!
:rockon:


As ya say better that than getting charged for wilful damage..

[Virago]

...who is the moron that voted he overreacted? 38 no's & 1 yes???


Hello??????

It's a sad day when anyone who votes against road-rage attacks is deemed to be a "moron".

Perhaps when you find out who it was, you could go and smash the mirrors off their bike. That'll teach 'em...



(...and before you make a moronic assumption, I haven't voted...)

[swbarnett]

It's a sad day when anyone who votes against road-rage attacks is deemed to be a "moron".
Indeed, I might strongly disagree with someone but I will defend to the death their right to their own opinion.

[babyblade250rr]

Did you break the mirror clean off?

Tip: Next time you do something like this, don't post it. Well please do, but pretend it's a hypothetical situation. Because this can be used as evidence or some shit. I've seen it before.

yeah the wing mirror was dangling there after i delt to it glass in it was smashed so i guess yeah she will have to pay for a new one or pay the access on her insure which for a new audi will be alot!!

[0arbreaka]

A mate of mine always carries a ceramic hammer in his jacket, for this type of situation as they are designed for breaking windows with one tap. He said he only ever had to use it once, on some remuera tractor who was to busy talking on their cellphone to notice my mate in the other lane, apparently the woman got such a fright that she lockd up the brakes on the 4wd she was driving.:Punk:

[babyblade250rr]

i genuinly believe that something has to be done when in these situations by any biker i would rather a cage driver has to pay for and expensive damaged part of their car than have a biker killed,

So i say if you guys have to breakaway!!!:rockon:

[Cynos]

I certainly empathise with the OP, but I do wonder what will happen the next time that lady sees a rider. Will she be courteous, or even more of a shitter?

That said, I often find myself wishing for pieces of ceramic in my pocket to educate cagers who think that travelling two metres behind me at 120 is safe.

[675trippy]

hey blade, you did the right thing alright, hopefully the dopey cow will take more care next time and if she doesn't let's hope her mirror gets wiped out again.

[jafar]

I certainly empathise with the OP, but I do wonder what will happen the next time that lady sees a rider. Will she be courteous, or even more of a shitter?

who knows, but the chances of her seeing the next bike are greatly enhanced.

That said, I often find myself wishing for pieces of ceramic in my pocket to educate cagers who think that travelling two metres behind me at 120 is safe.

Carry a spark plug or two in your pocket, they can do the damage & nothing anyone can do to stop you as they are a 'spare part' ....

[Cynos]

My problem is that it's usually middle aged asshats in late model Falcodores doing the tailgating - and if I missed I'd have no way to get away (250cc styles)...

[MidnightMike]

Fair Reaction indeed.

Had the same thing happen to me whilst on a ride over the kaimais with a group of kbr's, though someone was kind enough to do the reacting....

[Bren]

if everyone who went for a car license had to do a year on a motorcycle first the world would be a safer place...nothing hones your driving skills as much as riding a motorcycle

[bikerboy011]

man slap that bitch from the window lol next time just hold the clutch and rev it high and it tend to work as its lowder then the horn ahaha. thats how i warn other people when am cutting through lol and watch out always stay in the middle of the lan as some ass holes decide to share the lane with u when they see u on the right. it happened to me but a gased him hehe.

Next time if u crusin in town or mission bay just let me now as i live close and its cool ridin with people that has the same bike. Just give me a txt when ever 0210489005.

[NSR-Dan]

you can always hit the mirror with a strong downward force of the fist, usually if you kick it forward or backwards they can just fold back.

if anyone complains to the police just say they hit you. or get there rego and report them before they can complain.

[HungusMaximist]

Bro, I travel on Tamaki Drive nearly everybody and I can relate aye, especially during peak hour traffic. You get heaps of people driving really close to each other around 50km and you gotta be really weary at the start of Tamaki Drive by Mechanics Bay, where the Westpac Helicopters hangars are. There's always parked cars on the left and the lane gap drops dramatically so you get alot of cars weaving in and out across the lanes.

Not looking is pretty much part of the drivers repertoire on Tamaki Drive during rush hour traffic.

It usually goes something like this...

Just finished work, cruising home, laxing in their car, shift to the right hand without looking, probably a car anyway so it doesn't matter, then "OH FUCK", there's a motorcycle on my right, off goes my right mirror, *phew* just my mirror aye... shit.. could've been way worse... fank god I drive a car...

Glad you did something about it. It was pretty much a split second decision you made there, it was either 'do or die'. Hope the lady got the message aye.

[skidMark]

sounds like you were all riding in blind spots on each occasion

roadcode says sit in cars right wheel track... DON'T

it's a massive blindspot due to the pillar...and bullshit to the guy that said it's only a 250 so u cant accelerate...i always keep my zxr250 in 3rd gear sometimes 2nd around 50 kph zones...for the simple fact i can accelerate out of trouble if need be

stop bitching on the internet and go learn how to ride.

ugh

fucking n00bs

[skidMark]

and hang on....tamaki drive is 50kph zone so say u were doing 60...perhaps 70kph? i can bring my bike to a complete stop from that speed in like 7 metres.....maybe 5 if i really hit the anchors....

if you saw the car coming you should have been able to hit the picks easily.

i don't see roadrage as a solution to it to be honest.

did you have your lights on? if so were they on high beam if you use low beam during the day thats just stupidity.

i think you had other options than to smash up thier car......

you shouldve just hit the brakes....and you should know the limits of your bike.

if you cant hit the brakes in an emergency situation such as this, yet have time to lift up your foot and kick a mirror...which is more time than it would taken to hit the brakes.....


to drop enough speed off to be behind them should have taken you 2-3 metres of distance maximum.

if you cant do that, you shouldnt be on the roads.

just being honest.

ugh :calm: fuck you wonder why u all nearly get taken out, if youre only just realising that cars don't see you youve been going round with ur eyes shut...

[skidMark]

sorry, ill be nice now, just sick of the same shit over n over again.

car drivers don't look...it's just how it is.

[discotex]

sorry, ill be nice now, just sick of the same shit over n over again.


:killingme :killingme - pot calling the kettle black a bit there dude.


Most of the time I'd say you're right. Braking, gassing it, or swerving is going to be a way safer option than smashing a mirror off. Sometimes you're boxed in tho. Best solution to that is to not get boxed in in the first place :)

[Swoop]

You do not kick their door, or panels, on their cage.

You are fending off a large metal object and trying to keep a distance from the hazard! ...:yes: :Police:

Recently had to "fend off" a dozy bitch who couldn't decypher what the two blasts of the horn were for, as she crossed over the line into my lane.

[HungusMaximist]

i don't see roadrage as a solution to it to be honest.





That coming out of your mouth is kind of hard to believe. haha. :lol:

Look, he made an impulse decision on whacking off the mirror. Of course there were many alternatives to that but what's done is done.

I do agree that as a motorcyclist, it is definitely our responsibility to minimize our risks as much as possible by riding better. Be on the balls on the time and ride your bike in a way as if you're gonna get totaled every time you hit the road.

Yea fuck, expect the unexpected from cars, just a way of life for bikers... :2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[Luckylegs]

Look, he made an impulse decision on whacking off the mirror. Of course there were many alternatives to that but what's done is done.


Agree that he made an impulse decision, but (and I am tempted to become "moron" number two and vote just for the pleasure of a previous poster to show my conviction :bleh:) his question was whether it was the right one. I tend to agree with anyone who has indicated his choice may have been the wrong one.

God Forbid, this may even mean I agree with Skidmark (which as abhorent a thought as it is, is quite refreshing...)

If, after a dicussion (perhaps at the next set of lights) with said Bitch he had been unable to make her see sense, apologise or make some sort of human sort action, then sure bash the mirror, door panel, roof, whatever)....

I guess my take on this is premised on the fact that I tend to be more "Verbal" than "Action" oriented.

[swbarnett]

I guess my take on this is premised on the fact that I tend to be more "Verbal" than "Action" oriented.
Although I agree given the chance I think you've missed the point. He broke the mirror to get her attention and make her back off. Not as a punitive action after the fact.

[Luckylegs]

Although I agree given the chance I think you've missed the point. He broke the mirror to get her attention and make her back off. Not as a punitive action after the fact.

That was excatly my point (although I agree I still not be getting it :wacko:)

I was trying to imply that I didint agree that breaking a mirror was in this case the best way to get her attention (or probably more importantly that getting her attention was indeed even the best action).

If it was as someone earlier suggested, more a means of "pushing away from the car or something similar then that would be a different story.

Re the punitie action, while I dont go in for it (Im soft) I would probably be voting (not that I actually voted) the other way and agreeing what he did was OK.

[swbarnett]

I was trying to imply that I didint agree that breaking a mirror was in this case the best way to get her attention (or probably more importantly that getting her attention was indeed even the best action).
It seems that I read too much into your post. we are in agreement I think. Given the exact circumstances as described breaking the mirror was one way to avoid a nasty accident. This incident is probably evidence for replacing a stock horn with something perhaps loud enough to briefly deafen anybody witin a 5m radius.

[JohnR]

[QUOTE=skidMark;1205895]sounds like you were all riding in blind spots on each occasion

Late model Audi's have a blind spot in the right front?!:gob:

Babyblade said she came from behind him so more likely she was in his blind spot!

I agree that braking and letting her go would be the safest option:innocent: however...she now is aware of her error:spanking::hitcher:

[Shiny side up]

Right so had a small episode today,

I have a question for you guys and girls, Did i do the right thing? was breaking the wing mirror on a late model audi the best option considering my circumstance? it did seem to work after all

Well I look at it this way..... She caused an accedent. Her wing mirror collided with you as she made an unsafe lane change. It collided with your foot as you took evasive action to prevent what would have otherwise been a more serious accedent.

Back in the days when I was had the CBX250RS (honda single 4 stroke road) I had a van pull out onto a single lane roundabout. He as making a left turn and I was comming straight through. I had the bike laid right over to the right, braking as hard as I dared, with my front wheel about 100mm off his rear bummper as I tried to miss the rear right corner of his van. I finally got out to the right of him just as I exited the roundabout. The sudden shift from hard right to hard left (to miss the island) combined with fullthrottle (much to my suprise) was enough to lift the front of the little 250 right up of the deck.
I ended up coming up along side of him on one wheel till I got to the drivers door. I buttoned off sightly (causing the front wheel to resume its normal relationship with the road) and reached out. I grabbed his drivers side mirror and shoved it round against his windscreen (didn't break dispite the rough treatment). He was stupid enough to give the "what did I do?" look.
The next set of traffic lights was only 400m up the road and it was red. The centre lane only had about 2 cars in it and the outside lane had about 10 mostly waiting to turn left. I felt an intense need to talk to the cage driver that had caused my sphinkter muscles to contract so tightly. I found neutral and kicked down the side stand. I spun around to get off and talk to said cage driver. But he clearly didn't feel so safe in his cage when it was not moving. He stopped way back in the long line of traffic even though he was going straight through. He wouldn't even look at me.

Often the only way to get through to a cage driver is to make them feel less safe. If your busting a wing mirror today saves me from soiling my undies tomorrow all I can say is thanks.