Now when I were a boy,

[Ocean1]

we 'ad to...

[JimO]

now your not allowed to stand on the top step of a 6ft stepladder

[Nasty]

Fantastic pics .. pity about OSH ;)

[Coyote]

The empire state looked like a fun jungle gym

[sels1]

Ha - I have just had a lot of involvement with OSH/work-at-heights stuff - I shall cirulate that around the team.
Yeah times have sure changed.

[janno]

Google tells me the following . . .

Empire State - During planning stages the construction death toll was estimated to be one worker per floor, or over 100 workers overall. However, only a handful of workers lost their lives during construction.

Golden Gate Bridge - Eleven men killed. Until February 17, 1937, there had been only one fatality, setting a new all-time record in a field where one man killed for every million dollars spent had been the norm. On February 17, ten more men lost their lives when a section of scaffold carrying twelve men fell through the safety net.

Amazing what was considered acceptable back then. My husband is a boilermaker and he reckons workplaces have become a hell of a lot more unsafe since all the osh bizzo has come in.

Over legislation leads to lack of thought and responsibility, in his opinion.
Especially when "rules" to keep workers safe are made by non- tradespeople or whatever the profession is.

[deanohit]

Geez those are some impressive pictures.

[MSTRS]

Over legislation leads to lack of thought and responsibility, in his opinion.
Especially when "rules" to keep workers safe are made by non- tradespeople or whatever the profession is.

I wonder where else that applies??:innocent:

[avgas]

Venn Diagram
Working safe and working with OSH the circles do overlap.....but one does not superimpose the other.
The paperwork is a bitch

[WRT]

Google tells me the following . . .

Empire State - During planning stages the construction death toll was estimated to be one worker per floor, or over 100 workers overall. However, only a handful of workers lost their lives during construction.

The Chrysler Building, which had held the record prior to the ESB for being the Worlds tallest building (only briefly - however it is still the World's tallest brick building), was built at a rate of four floors per week, without any worker deaths.

[Swoop]

Not a "high-viz" vest in sight. *sigh*

[Pumba]

Not a "high-viz" vest in sight. *sigh*

Nor a pair of stubbies!! I thought these guys were construction workers.

[Swoop]

Nor a pair of stubbies!! I thought these guys were construction workers.
Back then... it was common to wear a collar and tie when working with tools.

[Pumba]

Back then... it was common to wear a collar and tie when working with tools.

Just another example of how times have changed, shit the amount of people that wear a collar and tie in an office is on the rapid decline.

[cooneyr]

I like the riveting pic. Looks like the guy on the right is balancing by placing his left leg on board that his mate on the left is standing on.

Guy on left "Hold on a minute would you while I just grab another rivit"
Guy on right "Okayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy"
thud

Now that would build trust between work mates rather than this namby pamby falling backwards of tables shit!

LOL
R

[Ocean1]

I like the riveting pic. Looks like the guy on the right is balancing by placing his left leg on board that his mate on the left is standing on.

They're actually supposed to both be on the same rivet with them new fangled pneumatic riveters. The noise would be incredible, and no ear protection.

Makes you think not just about changing attitudes to safety. Before the Empire State building the holes for those rivets would have been drilled by hand (as in brace & bit). The difference between then and now in pure labour hours on projects like that is huge. The fact that there's an order of magnitude less hours spent in construction is one of many wee facts OSH fail to mention when compiling statistics to justify policy and budgets.

[pete376403]

They're actually supposed to both be on the same rivet with them new fangled pneumatic riveters. The noise would be incredible, and no ear protection.

Makes you think not just about changing attitudes to safety. Before the Empire State building the holes for those rivets would have been drilled by hand (as in brace & bit). The difference between then and now in pure labour hours on projects like that is huge. The fact that there's an order of magnitude less hours spent in construction is one of many wee facts OSH fail to mention when compiling statistics to justify policy and budgets.
No way to brace and bit drilling steel beams. Even way back then the beams would have the hole formed by a powered punch press. Have a look at an old steel brdige or boiler sometime - the number of rivets is very large and the holes are big - 1" diameter or more. Even if the labour cost was free they couldn't afford the time to bore the holes by hand. Check the number of rivets in the attached pic - just a tiny section of a steel frame building (Empire State) The only way they could have formed enough rivet holes to assemblr a 102 storey building in 14 months would have been to use machinery, and a lot of it