636 vs CBR600 vs GSXR600

[pyrocam]

I have test ridden a half dozen bikes today and its down to
Honda CBR600 (03)
Kawasaki 636
GSXR600 (06 new)

here is my list
GSXR Pro's: its cool, its new
GSXR Con's: its 6k more than I planned on spending

636 Pro's: its fun to ride, looks good, common.
636 Con's: not a cbr600, havent found one.

CBR 600 Pro's: its really fun to ride, It is affordable
CBR 600 Con's:

I didnt ride an r6 couldnt find one

Help me make my P&C's list bigger pls!


(the v twins were completely boring to ride)



I've been doing the rounds of the Auckland bike shops and getting some advice on what bikes I should be looking at for my soon upgrade.

at the moment, on the cards are
VTR1000 (post 2001)
ZX636RQ
CBR600
SV650
and I only just saw, I think it was a ZX650F (sprots tourer)

I figure CBR and 636 are out because I'm thinking comfort (mine and pillion), I want to be able to go down on long rides on occasion, but on the other hand, she handles sitting on the back of a 250 pretty good and I took the CBR250 to wellington and back without hassle.

also I commute 20k a day so it needs to be able to sit in traffic ok.

I'm looking around 10k with a bit of leniency if its a good deal

anything I've missed that I just 'have' to test ride?


oh and I got my full of course, yay me

[Kendog]

Don't forget the GSXR750.

You may find a good second hand one.

[blacksheep]

triumph 675,sorry just seen your budget

[Cajun]

honstly man all the 600s are simlar bike, buy which ever one turns you on the most to look at.

[justsomeguy]

The 636 is the fastest of them all.

The 03/04 636 is the best track bike of them all and feels the most brutal - you will need to ride them all to understand what I mean.

The 05/06 636 is the best all rounder.

After having ridden all of them I pick the 636.

All have a very similar seating position. The 05/06 636 and 06 onwards GSXR600's are the more comfortable.

Don't forget the Triump 675, it has a really cool dashboard and overall handling. Boring power delivery and no storage space.

The 03/04 GSXR600 has the best storage space.

R6 really feels well built.

Unfortunately you can only choose these bikes on looks the rest of their qualities are rather similar.

[Brett]

GSXR 600 new, or CBR600rr New or ZX6r new - since you are reviewing one bike in the 'new' budget range!

[Pussy]

Don't forget the GSXR750.

You may find a good second hand one.

+1. There have been a few good buys of K6-K7 GSX-R750s lately. Exactly the same physical size as the six hundy, with a bit more mumbo. Very easy to ride, and a whole heap of fun. Didn't Limbimtimwim's one go for a reasonable price?

[justsomeguy]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-106619921.htm?p=8

Just save a bit harder.

[Coldrider]

The Honda is will be the best build quality & resale, but the ZX 636 can come in Green and has those nice wavey disc thingies, and has the lap timer bling, and comes with the image you get but you can't buy.
Any votes other than the 636 will go up in smoke.

[Coldrider]

The 636 is twice ahead in the poll, buy now.

[Zapf]

Don't forget the CBR954. Or you can leave them for someone more deserving to buy them... (me) :yes:

[justsomeguy]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-111815223.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=100371300&key=669169

Also consider this bike - it is a bit bigger, but these bikes are VERY easy to ride.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-112672195.htm

[justsomeguy]

Don't forget the CBR954. Or you can leave them for someone more deserving to buy them... (me) :yes:

There's a nice one for sale in my link above.

...and one in your "gargre" too eh?

[BuFfY]

Buy the one I like the best. My opinion is the only one that matters

[Zapf]

...and one in your "gargre" too eh?

yes but its not for sale :)

[pyrocam]

Buy the one I like the best. My opinion is the only one that matters

since the important one is watching


636 (same color colemans are selling)
gsxr (they come in other colors?)
cbr600 (oooh baby, yeah baby)

[inlinefour]

Get what it is that you truely want in my opinion. If its a new gixxer you truely want then go for it as you might find yourself wanting it after you have a bike thats not so good. Rode the 06 r6 before my accident and it was awesome and I'm lead to believe the 07 r6 is even better. But in saying that I had the 05 CBR600rr as it was the right bike for me. The 05 GSXR 750 could have been a go when I was in the market but no one wanted to supply me with locally. Not sure what a 03 CBR600rr is like to ride, but I was more than happy with my 05 model. The 05 636 was in my opinion a bloody good ride but I have no idea what the newer models are like. If you truely want the gixxer new, go for it, as it might end up costing you more now but less in the long run. :shit:

[Toaster]

Flag the bike and buy a car... NAH!!! Go GSXR - it's a good little bike for smaller framed guys. Mind you, I am a bigger guy and I felt like I was humping an over-revving under powered coffee-table in comparsion to the more wicked M109R beast or my previous two bikes, the 750 or 1000 - they were fabulous bikes.

[Sparky Bills]

Buy a Honda!..... or Ducati :innocent::Punk:

[Disco Dan]

Get it down to maybe two, then ride both for a whole day.... make sure you really find out all its little hiccups and you may find one makes you have a sore back/arms/neck/bum whatever which you will only find out after you have a long ride on it. Even get your missus on the back and get her opinion on pillion comfort?

GSXR's are getting way to common to be 'cool'. They are like what the MR2 was in the 90's :zzzz: Just like when you used to be in school.. turn up with your new cool backpack or pencil case and ever other smegger has the same one!

[Gremlin]

If you're comparing between bikes of the same year, there really is nothing much in it, that us mortals can exploit.

All bikes have similar performance. imho it comes down to which you love the look of, how it feels for you, and what the ergonomics are like for you. I never leave the bikes stock anyway...

[Mekk]

Get the one that makes your heart beat a little faster and the one that makes you smile the most.

[NZsarge]

Hey...I voted R6, mainly coz i'm diehard Yamaha fan but really any of the bikes you're looking at there will be sweet as, if you can go new without pushing the pocket too hard then I say go for it.:yes:

[Leong]

The 03 CBR I rode was very noticeably down on mid range power compared to my GSXR600. The 07 CBR600 has more and is similar to the 636. Of the bike you list I think the GSXR is the most comfortable for touring though the 07 CBR again is better. Also if you're shorter, the GSXR is the easiest to handle in the carpark. Get the one you REALLY want!!!

[qldzxr250a]

the new r6 is supposed the be insane.

otherwise 01gsxr750 cheap and believe me puts a smile on ya dial....

picked mine up fo $7.4K 30000ks on her plus few mods...

[DEATH_INC.]

Does depend a little on your intended usage, but much as I hate to say it the H***a is prolly the best roadbike out there.....
As a Trackbike buy the new R6, If crashing's on the agenda get the ZX6, and of course you can't go past the fact that the gixx is perfect for the little guy....
If you're coming from a 250 then you're on the right track with a 600, forget anything bigger, you don't need it.

[James Deuce]

Jeepers don't ask us, we're idiots!

Buy the one you liked the most that you took for a decent test ride.

Nothing else matters because you have to live with it. If you can;t extract a test ride from a dealer then it doesn't bode well for an ongoing relationship with them, does it?

[675trippy]

pretty hard to compete with masterbike for two years running triumph 675 all the way

[Cr1MiNaL]

I'd say pic theR6 but on 2nd thought I quite enjoy having the only R6 on rides so pic another ... either way if u ride it well enuf u will be as good as if not better thn most 1000 cc riders as ul soon come to c.

[boomer]

I'd say pic theR6 but on 2nd thought I quite enjoy having the only R6 on rides so pic another ... either way if u ride it well enuf u will be as good as if not better thn most 1000 cc riders as ul soon some to c.

i don't know what thou riders your soclialising with but you need to get out more ;)

[boomer]

the H***a is prolly the best roadbike out there.....

..........

[saul]

Easy to ride, comfortable, well behaved, decent wheelies, great brakes, plenty of parts if you need them, Ninja only rides:yes:

No storage under the seat:nono:

The little more cc helps the baby bikes I think.

Would I buy another one yep:love:

[Cr1MiNaL]

i don't know what thou riders your soclialising with but you need to get out more ;)
whatever dude, Ill c u on da track. :zzzz: I like healthy competition, but from what I've heard u won't even be that !

[saul]

whatever dude, Ill c u on da track. :zzzz:


lol don't bite you just encourage him :love::innocent:

[kiwifruit]

whatever dude, Ill c u on da track. :zzzz:

:rolleyes: :jerry:

[jrandom]

I like healthy competition...

You have a much lovelier hairstyle than boomer.

Also, your horizontal-knee-out stylings in the corners are much more graceful.

:first:

[boomer]

whatever dude, Ill c u on da track. :zzzz: I like healthy competition, but from what I've heard u won't even be that !

by the time you've ridden to teh track everyone will have packed up and gone home bro... we've seen you on the back roads.. figuratively speaking (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_strips)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=34388&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1149844168

[Harry the Barstard]

Easy to ride, comfortable, well behaved, decent wheelies, great brakes, plenty of parts if you need them, Ninja only rides:yes:

No storage under the seat:nono:

The little more cc helps the baby bikes I think.

Would I buy another one yep:love:

What he said. How can you even say a ninja is common and a gixer isnt!!!!!
An oldy but a goodie. A gixer is like a tampon..... every Cu^t has one. Get a 6RR then if you want to be a lil different but love the suductive way of the Saki.

[boomer]

A gixer is like a tampon..... every Cu^t has one.

apposed to kwaka riders.. where every cunt is one...

[boomer]

You have a much lovelier hairstyle than boomer.

Also, your horizontal-knee-out stylings in the corners are much more graceful.

:first:

Are you gay?

[SlowHand]

Prob be worth a thought - the gixxer price could drop when the K8 comes out?

[Cr1MiNaL]

Are you gay?

Hes straight, u on the other hand seem to have something to say about everything... were u ill treated as a child, or maybe having a couple thou posts makes u feel like u have a bigger schllong? :whocares:

[boomer]

Hes straight, u on the other hand seem to have something to say about everything... were u ill treated as a child, or maybe having a couple thou posts makes u feel like u have a bigger schllong? :whocares:

Hey Arpu.. yeah i was brought up in Rotorua.. fortunately i was too skinny to be served battered. As for my old fella.. he's big enough to fill 3 prams. I might suggest you go have a sperm check mate cos if the little bliters are like you they'll have mobility issues.. ;)

ps.. i'll keep an eye out for ya at the track....fooookin neeeeow

[Harry the Barstard]

apposed to kwaka riders.. where every cunt is one...

Have you got one?

[Cr1MiNaL]

ps.. i'll keep an eye out for ya at the track....fooookin neeeeow

get used to the sight of my rear (chickenstripped) tire white boy. :Punk:

[boomer]

get used to the sight of my rear (chickenstripped) tire white boy. :Punk:

don't worry arpu.. i'll know when i'm lapping you

[saul]

apposed to kwaka riders.. where every cunt is one...


Very nice :nono: lol:sunny:

[boomer]

Have you got one?

no.. i've been working on being a **** for 30 odd years, fortunately it paid off and i didn't have to pay $20k to look like one ;)


Very nice :nono: lol:sunny:

you know i love you mate :D you could be on a honduh cub and i'd still think you were fantastic

[saul]

you know i love you mate :D you could be on a honduh cub and i'd still think you were fantastic


Yeh I knew there was some love in here somewhere:love: lol

As you were lol:rolleyes::girlfight::motu:

[Cr1MiNaL]

no.. i've been working on being a **** for 30 odd years, fortunately it paid off and i didn't have to pay $20k to look like one ;)
Ah now I know, ur having a bad day coz ur getting old (and the pretty girls at the club don wanna hang wid u anymore) come here .... rofl :devil2::hug:

[Harry the Barstard]

[QUOTE=boomer;1169024]no.. i've been working on being a **** for 30 odd years, fortunately it paid off and i didn't have to pay $20k to look like one ;)




I knew you would bite. You can pick up a good second hand one or demo for about $10 to $12K but im sure you know that.

Also you just proved me right. You said every cu^T has a Kwaka, yet you don't. Kind of blows that theory then dosen't it. LOL just kiddin m8 im sure your a nice chap.

Just found out your from Rotorua. I grew up there too, explains our attitude's alot

[boomer]

[quote=boomer;1169024]no.. i've been working on being a **** for 30 odd years, fortunately it paid off and i didn't have to pay $20k to look like one ;)




I knew you would bite. You can pick up a good second hand one or demo for about $10 to $12K but im sure you know that.

Also you just proved me right. You said every cu^T has a Kwaka, yet you don't. Kind of blows that theory then dosen't it. LOL just kiddin m8 im sure your a nice chap.

Just found out your from Rotorua. I grew up there too, explains our attitude's alot


all good fun bro. i dont care what anyone rides as long as it gets ridden. and i'm not from rotorua.. im a pommie prik :D i thought i'd use a bit of satire to lighten things up

[Harry the Barstard]

[quote=Harry the Barstard;1169042]


all good fun bro. i dont care what anyone rides as long as it gets ridden. and i'm not from rotorua.. im a pommie prik :D i thought i'd use a bit of satire to lighten things up

Yea true that. I dont care what people ride either. Truth be known when is was 15 i once owned a CB125T. The "T" was for twin..........Mean. :gob:But still a good elbow in the ribs in jest alway puts a smile on your face.

[HDTboy]

Buy my bike

[SPman]

Get a GS 500 and learn how to ride?????

Failing that, just get another Honda........

[pyrocam]

I think the gsxr new is out of my league.
well i know it is i just don't want to admit it. doesnt mean i cant buy a 2nd hand one.

hdtboy, whats the details about yours? can i test ride it?

otherwise, im gonna get fed up and pick up the CBR600, its sex


edit: alot of votes on the 636, anyone know any good ones for sale? will pop into spectrum tomorrow i reckon

[saul]

Nice one the 636 is gonna win:yes::love:

[Toast]

I own an '03 CBR6 for racing. Good bike, bit cramped in the riding position for me. Crashes well. Forgiving chassis. Reliable thus far...

For a road bike I'd get the 05 6R, they're awesome.

Get the Gixxer if you think you may one day want to race it (I'm assuming that reliability of the CBR and Gixxer are equal here, which may or may not be the case).

Or just do whatever the fk you want :niceone:

[Harry the Barstard]

I think the gsxr new is out of my league.
well i know it is i just don't want to admit it. doesnt mean i cant buy a 2nd hand one.

hdtboy, whats the details about yours? can i test ride it?

otherwise, im gonna get fed up and pick up the CBR600, its sex


edit: alot of votes on the 636, anyone know any good ones for sale? will pop into spectrum tomorrow i reckon


Spectrum dont have any in at the mo. Mount eden has a couple though. Other than that Trade me has quiet a few that have been on there a fair while.

Good Hunting:Pokey:

[bugjuice]

here's a good bike... (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-113447617.htm)

[pyrocam]

here's a good bike... (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-113447617.htm)

roflies

** 1 careful lady owner since new

I have seen you ride.
edit: um. hmm, um, oh what, thats not your one.


Orange doesn't do it for me sorry,



edit again:
when I rode the 636 at colemans, it had a 'wall' when going around corners, Like, I'm turning and then I have to really push it or slow down to take the corner, is this a 636 thing or was the front tire just trashed, I couldnt see anything on the tire.

[CM2005]

Get the 636... simply for the Kawasaki Induction Roar™.

[Sparky Bills]

edit again:
when I rode the 636 at colemans, it had a 'wall' when going around corners, Like, I'm turning and then I have to really push it or slow down to take the corner, is this a 636 thing or was the front tire just trashed, I couldnt see anything on the tire.


Your not used to that size tyres id say. I felt the same way when I got into bigger bikes. You'l get used to it, and be surprised how stable they all are.

[justsomeguy]

when I rode the 636 at colemans, it had a 'wall' when going around corners, Like, I'm turning and then I have to really push it or slow down to take the corner, is this a 636 thing or was the front tire just trashed, I couldnt see anything on the tire.

Poor tyre pressures or different tyre sizes. Happens when you jump on a bigger bike for the 1st time.

I run 36psi front, 38 rear. You are more or less my weight, so try those pressures for size.

Also you can't beg and plead with the 636 (or any big sports bike) to take corners - just give it an assertive, confident push as you countersteer and you will find the bike does exactly what you want.

[boomer]

Also you can beg and plead with the 636 (or any big sports bike) to take corners - just give it an assertive, confident push as you countersteer and you will find the bike does exactly what you want.

how come you never tried this technique? would have saved you running of the track, nearly running into me and going wide on the roads ;)

[justsomeguy]

how come you never tried this technique? would have saved you running of the track, nearly running into me and going wide on the roads ;)

I ran wide on the track cos I realised at the last moment I had no brakes and basically f'ked my lines up as I couldn't get the bike to do what I wanted. When I changed my pads later in the day things were much better.

I don't feel as comfortable on the road as the track and my riding there needs a lot of improvement. Well actually it just generally needs a lot of improvement, period.

[bugjuice]

roflies


I have seen you ride.
edit: um. hmm, um, oh what, thats not your one.


Orange doesn't do it for me sorry,



edit again:
when I rode the 636 at colemans, it had a 'wall' when going around corners, Like, I'm turning and then I have to really push it or slow down to take the corner, is this a 636 thing or was the front tire just trashed, I couldnt see anything on the tire.
yeah, I'm not selling mine! never will.. I either write it off or it gets burried with me, don't worry..

You'll find that any bike bigger (physically, not just cc) than your CBR will be a lot different, if you haven't figured that bit out yourself (which I'm pretty sure you have!), so it'll be a case of adapting your riding technique and style to the new wheels. It'll also vary between bikes, not just models of bikes. I remember thinking the same thing about my bike, going into corners, but you soon realise that the CBR is quite a forgiving bike, which makes it so fun to ride. Bigger bikes have to be man-handled a bit more, I found this more so with the 636, which i kind of love about it. So I adapted the way I rode, and got round the problem that way. Fitted better tyres to it, got my confidence up etc, then Shaun did his magic on it, and turned it into a rollercoaster. Now it's been set up for me, it handles like it's on rails. That's what you want. So any bike will do this, it's just a case of setting it up for you.

As for the whole comfort ride, I've taken a few people on the back, the two furthest would have to be Kelly from Auckland down to Manfield one Friday night (was a killer, I admit) and back, but we got it done. The second was me down to Rotovagas to get HDTboy (Gav) and on to Welly, then back again. Again, another killer, but they're long day trips (done at evening/night quickly). I'm happy to cruise the coro gp on this and further, and having people on the back isn't a bad thing really. It'll be hard for the first few weeks for what ever bike you get tho, cos it's changing your riding position and style to suit the new wheels, so you'll be using muscles differently than before. But, you'll harden up and get used to it, then it's just a case of building on your talents with the right people around you until you get super quick like JSG or better.. or not, as the case may be

[kiwifruit]

just get the 04/05 zx10 and be done with it

[jrandom]

just get the 04/05 zx10 and be done with it

I hear they can still go quite fast with a hefty burden on the back seat.

[bugjuice]

I hear they can still go quite fast with a hefty burden on the back seat.
heard that before. Just feel sorry for the rider when they hit the brakes hard. That's something else the 636 is good for - bustin balls :mellow:

[kiwifruit]

I hear they can still go quite fast with a hefty burden on the back seat.

heh!

they go ok...
not the best for pillions, its a long way up there
it'll still hit rev limit in top (closed, private road) 2 up if the pillion can hang on / breathe

[Pussy]

heh!

they go ok...
not the best for pillions, its a long way up there
it'll still hit rev limit in top (closed, private road) 2 up if the pillion can hang on / breathe

myeh, fookin neoowwwwww!

[Brett]

here's a good bike... (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-113447617.htm)

My favourite Kwaka shape that one...ohhh I love it.

[bugjuice]

not the only one.. out of all the shapes, i personally think this one is the best. But I am warming to the 07 bike, and it comes in a burnt orange I've heard.. hmmmmm

[Waylander]

not the only one.. out of all the shapes, i personally think this one is the best. But I am warming to the 07 bike, and it comes in a burnt orange I've heard.. hmmmmm
The new ones do look nice, but would take some getting used to those tiny ass headlights.



CAMERON ya dick, where are the pics of your new ride?

[pyrocam]

The new ones do look nice, but would take some getting used to those tiny ass headlights.



CAMERON ya dick, where are the pics of your new ride?

Its not in my garage yet, getting the knobs fitted,

[Waylander]

Its not in my garage yet, getting the knobs fitted,
Who said it had to be in your garage to take pictures?

[pyrocam]

Who said it had to be in your garage to take pictures?

cos its at the shop and i dont carry a camera with me.

[Waylander]

cos its at the shop and i dont carry a camera with me.
Excuses.:zzzz: