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SpankMe
2nd October 2004, 16:58
Pukekohe Raceway Open Day. Oct 23<sup>rd</sup>

Last open day until February 2005 I was told at Puke today. So let’s make it a large Kiwi Biker turnout.

Register your attendance here (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=350&day=2004-10-23&c=1)

Two Smoker
3rd October 2004, 20:36
Ill be there, trying to bum rides on others bikes....... But ill still have the RG150 there :niceone:

COME ON SMALL CAPACITY BIKES!!!!!!!!! I want to be on the track with other people not inbetween groups......

DarkDream
4th October 2004, 07:44
Ill be there, trying to bum rides on others bikes....... But ill still have the RG150 there :niceone:

COME ON SMALL CAPACITY BIKES!!!!!!!!! I want to be on the track with other people not inbetween groups......

Hey TS, I checked out puke on the wknd....what were you doing on the back of the truck?

Anyway, looked really good.....so I'm guessing being an open day it's $80 and anyone can have a go? Just add leathers?

Shade
4th October 2004, 09:03
Ill definatley be there, hopefully there will be some more CBR's to dice with :)

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 09:32
Hey TS, I checked out puke on the wknd....what were you doing on the back of the truck?

Anyway, looked really good.....so I'm guessing being an open day it's $80 and anyone can have a go? Just add leathers?
LOL, its called crashing hehehe.... oh well shit happens..... yep $80 and just add leathers.... but bring some tools too, so you can take your mirrors off and indicators (just saves a few $$$ if you bin it)

Will be awesome to see you and Shade there :niceone: pity you guys will be beating me :(

6Chris6
4th October 2004, 09:44
$80 and just add leathers.... :(

Do you have to have a 1 piece Chris?
Or will i be allright with my 2 piece cordura (it zips together but just at back)

gpercivl
4th October 2004, 09:47
Do you have to have a 1 piece Chris?
Or will i be allright with my 2 piece cordura (it zips together but just at back)

On a test day at Pukekohe all you need is a crash helmet and be able to sign the indemnity form...but I'd recommend a back protector along with other quality riding gear just in case.

6Chris6
4th October 2004, 09:52
On a test day at Pukekohe all you need is a crash helmet and be able to sign the indemnity form...but I'd recommend a back protector along with other quality riding gear just in case.

Thankyou GP, I've already tested my gear a couple of time and found it good :Oops:
But will definately be looking at borrowing a back protector :niceone:

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 09:53
On a test day at Pukekohe all you need is a crash helmet and be able to sign the indemnity form...but I'd recommend a back protector along with other quality riding gear just in case.
I agree with what Greg says and have good gear and a back protector..... Courdura 2 piece will be fine mate.... Thats what Zed was using and they had no problem.....

NC
4th October 2004, 18:28
OoOoOo COunt me in :)

Joni
4th October 2004, 18:30
OoOoOo COunt me in :)

:spudbooge
Gonna give the track a go girl? :niceone:

NC
5th October 2004, 19:46
:spudbooge
Gonna give the track a go girl? :niceone:


Ah I might, Im not THAT good at riding...

Motoracer
5th October 2004, 20:13
Ah I might, Im not THAT good at riding...
You go there to learn how to ride better and practice your riding skills in a relatively safe enviroment and maybe even learn new skills. Definetly worth the 80 bucks IMO and I think you'll love it once you are there on the track.

NC
5th October 2004, 20:17
You go there to learn how to ride better and practice your riding skills in a relatively safe enviroment and maybe even learn new skills. Definetly worth the 80 bucks IMO and I think you'll love it once you are there on the track.


I'll proberly highside on the first corner, its my speciality...:lol:

JohnBoy
5th October 2004, 20:48
never done puke, but have been to manfield a few times and that was heaps of fun.
got a leather jacket but only spool pants, they have all the padding and plastic inserts. should be no prob?? anyways cant afford to crash!! :2thumbsup
are the bikes checked before going on the track for WOF and REG?

Motoracer
6th October 2004, 09:31
are the bikes checked before going on the track for WOF and REG?
Not for Pukie they don't.

Simon A
6th October 2004, 12:08
Does it cost anything to spectate? I'm not really confident enough to do a trackday yet but I'd love to see what it's all about.
If it's looks as fun as everyone says I may be keen to give it a go next time :msn-wink:

Drunken Monkey
6th October 2004, 12:18
Spectators are free. There usually aren't many of them, so you'll probably have the grandstand to yourself...

Or you could bring a stopwatch and take some times for the lads that don't have laptimers yet! :)

FROSTY
6th October 2004, 15:19
oops my mistake -track time is 23/10
It is a AMCC organized day TRACK TIME
So frget your $80 entry -itll be more like $150 but it is well organised

Motoracer
6th October 2004, 15:27
Guys n gals this is NOT repeat NOT an open track day
It is a AMCC organized day TRACK TIME
So frget your $80 entry -itll be more like $150 but it is well organised
Ah crap, fug it then... I was kinda thinking of going to this one insted of Manfield but now it's definetly Manfield! :Punk:

Come on all you Aucklanders, let's head down to Palmy. It ain't THAT far!

FROSTY
6th October 2004, 15:29
Nahh mate dont do that--lets wait a couple more weeks and do the pacific cup at taupo. -7th of november

Motoracer
6th October 2004, 15:31
Nahh mate dont do that--lets wait a couple more weeks and do the pacific cup at taupo. -7th of november
Oooh oooh, that sounds fun! Where the hell do you get all your info from? I am completly in the dark. :confused:

FROSTY
6th October 2004, 15:50
Thats it dambit --imm gonna be ya bloody manager--you need one so ya can focus on racing :eyepoke: :bash: :bash: :bash:

Motoracer
6th October 2004, 16:01
Thats it dambit --imm gonna be ya bloody manager--you need one so ya can focus on racing :eyepoke: :bash: :bash: :bash:
So you'll be getting 20% of what exactly? :laugh:

SpankMe
6th October 2004, 17:08
Track Time (http://www.northacc.co.nz/track.html) is on the 25<sup>th</sup>. The 23<sup>rd</sup> is an Open Day (http://www.pukekohe.org.nz/motorracing.htm). The second to last for the year, but the last one is cars only.

Drunken Monkey
6th October 2004, 17:14
eeeek! time is running out. The insurance has only _finally_ come through, so my bike is able to be fixed now. I will hassle them to have it ready by the 22nd!

Two Smoker
6th October 2004, 20:32
Sweet, practice is still on, go to Puke as well MR :niceone:

loosebruce
6th October 2004, 23:25
Track Time (http://www.northacc.co.nz/track.html) is on the 25<sup>th</sup>. The 23<sup>rd</sup> is an Open Day (http://www.pukekohe.org.nz/motorracing.htm). The second to last for the year, but the last one is cars only.

Sweat, cheers for that spankme, think me and MR are heading to manfeild for the sunday, but may look at coming to puke on the sat, if it's $80 which it looks like it is, i'll do a few sessions as manfeild is cheap as chips for non vic club members anyway, and then head off late afternoon for manfeild on the sunday :wacko:

And yeah any aklders keen to come down for it, the vic day at manfeild is more than worth the trip, heaps of tyre shredding, gas guzzling track time, i mean heaps. A lot of bikes, full and short cricut last time i went. And only cost around $35 if you were a non member.

Go :sunny: :sunny: :sunny: :sunny:

Motoracer
7th October 2004, 11:01
Ah fuck, just when I think, "OK, I am gunna start saving up a bit just after doing this thing" another thing pops up.

So it's a full on riding weekend this Sat/Sun, full on riding weekend next Sat/Sun on the Rally, Track day Pukie on Sat AND track day Manfield on Sun the weekend after that. Then the Pacific club will be fast approaching in November.


I'll do some maths and prioritise.

FROSTY
7th October 2004, 11:26
yea well it gets even more interesting for the next few months.
pacific cup is 7 nov -Taupo
december 12th is round 2
December 26 is wanganui
december28 is a one off meeting at taupo
feb 28 is the paeroa street meet
4th -6th march is national points meet at pukie
april 3rd is a clash of dates-pacific cup and round 3 of the pacific cup.
april24th is 3 round of the club series
8th may is r4 of protecta cup
21st of may is round 4 of club series at Taupo

JohnBoy
7th October 2004, 12:12
oops my mistake -track time is 23/10
It is a AMCC organized day TRACK TIME
So frget your $80 entry -itll be more like $150 but it is well organised
how the fuck can you charge that much??? :angry2:
i have done a few down at manfield and they only charge 40$ and you get the same service as you expect on a race meet!
might still come up to have a look at what all the fuss is about

loosebruce
9th October 2004, 09:29
Ah fuck, just when I think, "OK, I am gunna start saving up a bit just after doing this thing" another thing pops up.

So it's a full on riding weekend this Sat/Sun, full on riding weekend next Sat/Sun on the Rally, Track day Pukie on Sat AND track day Manfield on Sun the weekend after that. Then the Pacific club will be fast approaching in November.


I'll do some maths and prioritise.



No worries MR mate i got pleanty of hours for ya at work, sleep meh it's over rated. :crazy:

Al
9th October 2004, 17:52
I will also be there as a spectator, my choice of ride is not suited to track riding/racing!!!! <_<

Have very basic photography skills, so could take some piccies...?

Al

Two Smoker
9th October 2004, 18:04
Come on people!!!! We need more people to come along whether it is for racing or spectating.....

Drunken Monkey
10th October 2004, 13:26
Come on people!!!! We need more people to come along whether it is for racing or spectating.....

oooh oooh!!!!

Ricky at Mt Eden MC said he's going to do all he can to get the gixxer ready by the 22nd. Even said he'd loan me a bike if he can't get it done!

Hooah!

FROSTY
10th October 2004, 13:33
TGop bloke that ricky.
He was the guy got the 750 running. He just forgot about draining the tank--oops.

magnum
10th October 2004, 21:18
how the fuck can you charge that much??? :angry2:
i have done a few down at manfield and they only charge 40$ and you get the same service as you expect on a race meet!
might still come up to have a look at what all the fuss is about
they provide flag marshalls,put out the bales and have 3 groups with tuition before,during[on track] and after,also free lunch.it is very well run and a lot less intimidating for newbies i think. :Punk:

Two Smoker
11th October 2004, 20:00
Once again people HURRY UP AND SAY YOUR COMING ALONG....... I will be there on the RG150, and hopefully the ZXR400......

Mr Skid
11th October 2004, 20:35
Once again people HURRY UP AND SAY YOUR COMING ALONG....... I will be there on the RG150, and hopefully the ZXR400......

Maybe that could be your new party trick? Riding a RG150 and a ZXR400 at the same time.. :not:

Kwaka-Kid
11th October 2004, 21:10
Ill definatly be there! and i think mmy bike will too only shade will be on it!

im pit bitch for my own racebike for a day :D

PutMan
11th October 2004, 21:41
whoa if thats the attitude kk i might have to come along in flyin colours for a thrash to :niceone:

Two Smoker
12th October 2004, 05:57
whoa if thats the attitude kk i might have to come along in flyin colours for a thrash to :niceone:
woohoo go the small bikes!!!!!!!

Shade
12th October 2004, 11:12
Hahah KK -

Nah man i'll be taking my bike on, so if i bin it, i dont have to pay for your one :)

Kwaka-Kid
12th October 2004, 15:46
haha but TS - nick meant on MY BIKE! and sweet as bro!

huh shadey? but why am i going then? ur riding the viffer dude coz i aint riding.
drop my nuts. anyway i need to fix it first after the whole restrction ECU workaround fell apart... damnit.

magnum
12th October 2004, 16:13
i could turn up,depends on the weather. :ride:

Sheep Dags
15th October 2004, 15:37
Hi guys,

I'm real keen to get out there to Puke and meet some KBers but the only problem is, is that it says on their website that riders need full leathers and i've only got other riding gear, like dririder pants and armortech jacket. Are they pretty firm on this rule? And also, i got a TZR250, and never been to the track before, are there gonna be any other newbies/smaller engines there? Or else i'd feel like a dick :wacko: ... and which day do you suggest, the $80 open day or the $150 track day? cheers

Drunken Monkey
15th October 2004, 16:26
Hi guys,

I'm real keen to get out there to Puke and meet some KBers but the only problem is, is that it says on their website that riders need full leathers and i've only got other riding gear, like dririder pants and armortech jacket. Are they pretty firm on this rule? And also, i got a TZR250, and never been to the track before, are there gonna be any other newbies/smaller engines there? Or else i'd feel like a dick :wacko: ... and which day do you suggest, the $80 open day or the $150 track day? cheers

The track Marshal *seems* pretty relaxed on this rule = as long as you have good quality full safety gear, ie armoured jacket, armoured trousers, proper boots, gloves and (of course) helmet. But in saying that, I've never tried it on with anything less than full leathers myself, so I can't be 100% sure.

As for which is better value - it all depends on how quickly you learn and how confident you are on a bike (or more specifically your ability to ride a race line and not be intimidated by faster bikes passing you quickly and closely). I never did track day, went straight into open days, but I had some track etiquette experience in cages.

You've probably seen some of the other threads = follow Frosty's advice, ie hold your line (don't make sudden moves, even if it is to 'give way'), and you should be alright.

Sheep Dags
15th October 2004, 18:49
Cheers, thats great advice. Yea so I don't have any experience on a track but I've riden quite a bit so am quite confident. I've got to do it some time though so might as well give it a shot.

Two Smoker
15th October 2004, 20:34
Cheers, thats great advice. Yea so I don't have any experience on a track but I've riden quite a bit so am quite confident. I've got to do it some time though so might as well give it a shot.
WOOHOO ANOTHER SMALL BIKE FOR ME TO RACE!!!!:niceone:

Darryboy
17th October 2004, 20:20
I'll be there too.

My first time on track at Puke a few months ago was awesome fun.

So that's another small bike for you to lap TS

kerryg
18th October 2004, 09:14
I've done several Track Time days and had great fun each time. They're a credit to Vince Sharpe and his team. Well-organised and great for the less confident riders because of the way the groups are divided up, and newbies are given special briefing and a special 1st session on the track, and there's a braking school usually. BUT....if I was to be honest, I think that the value for money is not that flash. A lot of time is spent getting ready to ride, with bike and gear scrutineering, and filing out forms and standing in queues, and then briefing and then with with 4 different groups with their own sessions you may only get 4 sessions of 15 minutes (=$30 per session). And there's a break for lunch, and so on. I am keen not to be seen as rubbishing these days. They are very well done, and everyone involved does go to great lengths to make it a safe and enjoyable experience. I just think that the downside of such impeccable organisation is that it erodes riding time. So if anyone associated with Track Time reads this, it's not a criticism so much as an observation. I just wish they were a bit cheaper. :)
I haven't done a test day but I hear that you get lots and lots of track time and that it is a a much less organised and structured set up. Which may be a very bad thing, or a very good thing...... :scooter:

Hoon
18th October 2004, 10:07
Yep I recommend TrackTime as a good "first timers introduction to the race track" but once you've been broken in you will get more bang for buck from an open day.

If you are on a budget and a confident rider then jump straight into the open days but this aint for the faint hearted - you can expect to get BUZZED by many a faster rider all the way up to national champions and stressing over getting in the way may detract from the enjoyment (even though it isn't really your problem). This upcoming open day will be your best opportunity tho as there will be a lot of bikes and a few first timers too.

The amount of track you get at open days also depends on how many different classes of vehicles turn up. There could be as many as 5 (meaning 15 mins every 1.5 hours) which could be possible this Sat since it is the last one for a while.

Coldkiwi
18th October 2004, 11:14
Right... TS and MR, your badgering has paid off - I'll be there!

Time for me to get some lessons from the KB 600 master on Puke. I know your little knee down performance at Wharepapa was only a shadow of your real abilities on that bike at corners Sudeep so I expect some pointers please!

Two Smoker
18th October 2004, 11:37
Right... TS and MR, your badgering has paid off - I'll be there!

Time for me to get some lessons from the KB 600 master on Puke. I know your little knee down performance at Wharepapa was only a shadow of your real abilities on that bike at corners Sudeep so I expect some pointers please!
WOOHOO!!!! The final Showdown, MR vs. CK, anyone got a 1000cc for me to borrow so i can keep up with these guys to watch the battle????

Coldkiwi
18th October 2004, 11:41
dunno about a battle. I haven't been out there since January! Still, I'm getting the rear Supercorsa fitted today so hopefully he won't just bugger off on me!

Joni
18th October 2004, 11:41
WOOHOO!!!! The final Showdown, MR vs. CK, anyone got a 1000cc for me to borrow so i can keep up with these guys to watch the battle????

Hmmm, this could be very interesting indeed! :shifty:

Motoracer
18th October 2004, 11:44
WOOHOO!!!! The final Showdown, MR vs. CK, anyone got a 1000cc for me to borrow so i can keep up with these guys to watch the battle????
How about you get a new front tyre for your 400 and keep up with us, with the way you were riding on Sunday!!

CK is a awesome rider (from what I saw on Saturday), I wouldn't be teaching him shit! All he has to do is watch what I am doing for a wee while and I am sure he'll be right up there giving me a good battle or even going quicker in some areas. I just hope the weather will be dry.

Two Smoker
18th October 2004, 11:58
How about you get a new front tyre for your 400 and keep up with us, with the way you were riding on Sunday!!

CK is a awesome rider (from what I saw on Saturday), I wouldn't be teaching him shit! All he has to do is watch what I am doing for a wee while and I am sure he'll be right up there giving me a good battle or even going quicker in some areas. I just hope the weather will be dry.
I might, but i really need the $$$ for the 600 :(

Coldkiwi
18th October 2004, 12:03
It HAS to be dry. No really. I won't actually turn up if its wet because my enjoyment at Puke comes from wringing the bike's neck - not wussing around worrying about a wet patch or some oil off KK's bike sending me into the gravel!
anyway, Supercorsas are for dry tracks so i'm not really set up for it. (ok, and I'm a wuss after my ZX6 stepped out around 700-800mm going on to the straight when it started raining out there last year)

Two Smoker
18th October 2004, 12:12
That goes for me too, if its wet, im not riding, can't afford to bin at the moment and me in the wet will most likely mean i will bin....

Motoracer
18th October 2004, 12:19
That goes for me too, if its wet, im not riding, can't afford to bin at the moment and me in the wet will most likely mean i will bin....
What's this? The King of the wet, scared of a little H2O? :p

Two Smoker
18th October 2004, 12:38
What's this? The King of the wet, scared of a little H2O? :p
Well come on, if i go out on the RG, i will actually be CARVING UP for once....... mainly because there will be nobody on the track with me lol.....

Motoracer
18th October 2004, 12:45
Well come on, if i go out on the RG, i will actually be CARVING UP for once....... mainly because there will be nobody on the track with me lol.....
I won't go if it's wet as well. I mean, I'll go if it's just damp but not if it's raining hard. No worries if you flag it cause of the weather TS, I can understand how you REALLY can't afford a bin right now...

scroter
18th October 2004, 12:54
will be there if the weathers ok. i can only find out about friday so far but the whole countrys fine on friday so it should be ok on saturday.

Sheep Dags
18th October 2004, 18:21
OK, so i suppose i should really go to the track day on Saturday then, seeing as it's my first time, and don't wanna get ahead of myself. So any of you guys going on Saturday? Would be cool to meet in person, get some faces to these names :D ... P.S. just out of interest, can ya buy gas at the raceway or is there a gas station nearby? cause my bike's fuel economy is shit and i can't go for too long without filling her up :D
cheers, Mike

Two Smoker
18th October 2004, 18:30
OK, so i suppose i should really go to the track day on Saturday then, seeing as it's my first time, and don't wanna get ahead of myself. So any of you guys going on Saturday? Would be cool to meet in person, get some faces to these names :D ... P.S. just out of interest, can ya buy gas at the raceway or is there a gas station nearby? cause my bike's fuel economy is shit and i can't go for too long without filling her up :D
cheers, MikeThere's a challenge just a few hundred metres down the road..... I usually get about 3 sessions before needing more gas (the 150 has similar economy to my mates RGV250)......

Sheep Dags
18th October 2004, 18:41
ar sweet that's wicked. cause i was gonna make my mate come along with a gas tank and make him watch me all day. now he doesn't have to. good shit. anyways i'm gonna be the guy with the TZR250, it's red and white with Marlboro decals on it. woop

loosebruce
18th October 2004, 18:45
Well come on, if i go out on the RG, i will actually be CARVING UP for once....... mainly because there will be nobody on the track with me lol.....

If its wet i'll be out there TS, so you won't be alone, i dont think i'll be able to get my new bike ready by this weekend though, which id a shame.
You'd be quite keen on kicking it with another two stroke, my new 1995 NSR250 SP :rockon:

Two Smoker
18th October 2004, 18:50
If its wet i'll be out there TS, so you won't be alone, i dont think i'll be able to get my new bike ready by this weekend though, which id a shame.
You'd be quite keen on kicking it with another two stroke, my new 1995 NSR250 SP :rockon:DID YOU BUY THAT NSR?????

Motoracer
18th October 2004, 18:55
If its wet i'll be out there TS, so you won't be alone, i dont think i'll be able to get my new bike ready by this weekend though, which id a shame.
You'd be quite keen on kicking it with another two stroke, my new 1995 NSR250 SP :rockon:
What the?? I better come down there tonight to find out what's going on.

See you in a bit...

swanman
18th October 2004, 19:02
Hi,

I have just run in my new R1 and am desperate to get out on the track and give it some. I am still waiting for some leather pants to turn up from abroad. Can I get by with just a leather jacket and some draggin jeans this coming Saturday?

loosebruce
18th October 2004, 19:19
DID YOU BUY THAT NSR?????


Yeah mate, found out the whole swipe card thingee that is missing only deals with the ignition, so me an kerry are sorting out a new ignition for it. Plastic welding the fairings up or new race farings?? Not sure what i want to do yet, race bike or road bike, or sell it as road or race?? Decisions

You're going to spew when you hear how much i got it for :killingme

loosebruce
18th October 2004, 19:21
Hi,

I have just run in my new R1 and am desperate to get out on the track and give it some. I am still waiting for some leather pants to turn up from abroad. Can I get by with just a leather jacket and some draggin jeans this coming Saturday?

Yea mate you should be able to, they aren't to hard out on that. Just binnning it with jeans on, sucks the kumara big time. Be good to see you there.

kenis_sun
18th October 2004, 20:06
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO keen on going as well... for the first time... but just came off the bike and broke my arm about a month ago... :thud: still in a cast... have to wait till next year then... are there any other chances I can try my bike out on the track b4 the next open day next year plz? :rockon:

Two Smoker
19th October 2004, 06:10
I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO keen on going as well... for the first time... but just came off the bike and broke my arm about a month ago... :thud: still in a cast... have to wait till next year then... are there any other chances I can try my bike out on the track b4 the next open day next year plz? :rockon:AT Taupo Yep, but not at Puke until Feb because of renovations.....

Drunken Monkey
19th October 2004, 08:57
There's a challenge just a few hundred metres down the road..... I usually get about 3 sessions before needing more gas (the 150 has similar economy to my mates RGV250)......

They gots RACE GAS on pump there, too...

Bodge
19th October 2004, 15:30
I will probably come out and watch...

Lame? I know.

While I am confident on the road – I have never been on a track and wouldn’t know a racing line if it came up and said “Hi I am a racing line…”

This is something that I definitely want to do I think I will watch this time and have a crack next year – so I expect some entertaining track action from all of you!

[At least that’s what I am on record saying on Tuesday – by Saturday no doubt temptation will have overcome me and I will be signing some dodgey indemnity form :yes: ]

Two Smoker
19th October 2004, 18:24
I will probably come out and watch...

Lame? I know.

While I am confident on the road – I have never been on a track and wouldn’t know a racing line if it came up and said “Hi I am a racing line…”

This is something that I definitely want to do I think I will watch this time and have a crack next year – so I expect some entertaining track action from all of you!

[At least that’s what I am on record saying on Tuesday – by Saturday no doubt temptation will have overcome me and I will be signing some dodgey indemnity form :yes: ]
If your lucky, ill crash ;)

loosebruce
19th October 2004, 23:14
If your lucky, ill crash ;)

Yea i second that, i'll crash too for ya, got some new crash bungs and like all new things i have to try em out.

JohnBoy
20th October 2004, 12:10
sorry guys, but 80 bucks is just too rich for my blood. going to shoot down to manfield for the sunday instead. will try and make it when i have some extra money in the new year sometime.
cheers, john

Bodge
20th October 2004, 12:59
All good - it will give me a chance to practice with my new first aid cert...

Just don't stop breathing I was half asleep during the CPR bit... :rolleyes:

Might bring some duct tape as well - can double as people/bike first aid.

scroter
20th October 2004, 13:23
cloud cover at worst for the whole of the north island on saturday. some rain in the west of the north island on saturday night.

just wondering how many of us are going have we got 20 yet. also if you dont want to do the track day then come anyway and support the rest of us. oh and bring stop watches.

scroter
20th October 2004, 13:26
I will probably come out and watch...

Lame? I know.

While I am confident on the road – I have never been on a track and wouldn’t know a racing line if it came up and said “Hi I am a racing line…”

This is something that I definitely want to do I think I will watch this time and have a crack next year – so I expect some entertaining track action from all of you!

[At least that’s what I am on record saying on Tuesday – by Saturday no doubt temptation will have overcome me and I will be signing some dodgey indemnity form :yes: ]

just go hard. youll get used to it pretty quickly and besides you dont have to go hard nuts if you dont want to. the only thing faster riders expect of you is that whatever lines you take dont make sudden changes, especially to get out of the way, this is dangerous the onus is on the passer.

Drunken Monkey
20th October 2004, 13:32
Just popped into the work shop. The parts are there, the bike 'will be ready' by the end of the day on Friday (anyone who knows mechanics, knows this phrase can only be used loosely). I have to ride around on the scuffed fairing and get it fixed when the decals come in later, but that's probably ideal (better to bin it on the track on an already scuffed fairing than to narf up a new one!)

Suzukis O\/\/nZ0|2 the race track! muhahaha!

Two Smoker
20th October 2004, 17:51
LOOK OUT EVERYONE, MY ZXR HAS A SUPERCORSA ON IT NOW MUAHAHAHA....

And ill be riding the moving road block called an RG150.....

I really do need some time keepers as im wanting to get into the 1:12's on the ZXR.....]

SO COME ONE TIME KEEPERS.......... COME ALONG :niceone:

magnum
21st October 2004, 11:29
im in :yeah:

erik
21st October 2004, 20:16
I'll be there too if the weather is :sunny: . Just to watch and take pictures though, can't afford to go on the track and my bike isn't really suitable.
I'm looking forward to trying one of those Tracktime days when I've got the money and a more suitable bike though.

sAsLEX
21st October 2004, 22:16
LOOK OUT EVERYONE, MY ZXR HAS A SUPERCORSA ON IT NOW MUAHAHAHA....

And ill be riding the moving road block called an RG150.....

I really do need some time keepers as im wanting to get into the 1:12's on the ZXR.....]

SO COME ONE TIME KEEPERS.......... COME ALONG :niceone:

I am trying to make ti bro so will be happy to be stop watchin it, will bring cam as well for some knee down on the 400

Coldkiwi
22nd October 2004, 13:11
LOOK OUT EVERYONE, MY ZXR HAS A SUPERCORSA ON IT NOW MUAHAHAHA....



don't ya just love those things? Pirelli- what a great company. :hug: Even their shagged tyres are wonderful (just got back from Mt eden fitting the ex-race ones... just beautiful!)

Coldkiwi
22nd October 2004, 13:14
They gots RACE GAS on pump there, too...

which is damnably expensive.. is it really worth it? I've never used it but how about the rest of ya? much of a perfromance increase in a road bike?

Cajun
22nd October 2004, 13:21
don't ya just love those things? Pirelli- what a great company. :hug: Even their shagged tyres are wonderful (just got back from Mt eden fitting the ex-race ones... just beautiful!)

would rather have my nice new michelin over the pirelli i had before

Quasievil
22nd October 2004, 13:29
mmmmm shall I shant I shall I shant I fuck,, to be honest its a bit scary the thought of blating around Puke, Not sure if Im good enough. as well as the insurance thing oh arh oh arghhhh fuck ,what to do what to do, pressure Cajun pressure Oh fuck I cant cope anymooooo----------------------------

Drunken Monkey
22nd October 2004, 13:40
which is damnably expensive.. is it really worth it? I've never used it but how about the rest of ya? much of a perfromance increase in a road bike?

Pffft, who cares about performance. I would get more than mere tenths off my time by growing a set of bigger nads and braking later on the corners. It's the -=smell=- that makes RACEGAS so great...

:eek5:

awwww yeeeaahhhhhh

Cajun
22nd October 2004, 13:41
mmmmm shall I shant I shall I shant I fuck,, to be honest its a bit scary the thought of blating around Puke, Not sure if Im good enough. as well as the insurance thing oh arh oh arghhhh fuck ,what to do what to do, pressure Cajun pressure Oh fuck I cant cope anymooooo----------------------------

Quasi i am in same boat as you that why be going putt putt around and no dobt even get pasted by 125cc stuff dc:<

Bodge
22nd October 2004, 13:48
I am keen to ride behind someone who is going reeeeallyyyy slow!

We can start a lame "I'm too scared to scratch my bike" conga line :moon: :baby:

Cajun
22nd October 2004, 13:51
I am keen to ride behind someone who is going reeeeallyyyy slow!

We can start a lame "I'm too scared to scratch my bike" conga line :moon: :baby:

pick me pick me

i am the :banana: gsxr600

Motoracer
22nd October 2004, 14:12
which is damnably expensive.. is it really worth it? I've never used it but how about the rest of ya? much of a perfromance increase in a road bike?
Nick Odermatt, who does 61s at Pukie runs 91 on his race bike so apart from the smell, I think the difference would be quite small.

P.S. I can't do any riding this weekend folks as I have gotten even more sick since yesterday. I can barely walk so the track days are definetly out of the question.

Yet I am happy, you know why? I reckon this was meant to be... I just got a letter in the mail today and it's about a race training day. Brain Bernard himself is holding it along with some of the other top racers. If I had gone this weekend, I certainly couldn't have afforded going to Manfield on next Saturday the 30th of October 2004 for it. It's $200 for the day. All I have to do is get rid of the flu by then.

I might still come just to Pukie to watch and time people though. :)

Cajun
22nd October 2004, 14:21
Nick Odermatt, who does 61s at Pukie runs 91 on his race bike so apart from the smell, I think the difference would be quite small.

P.S. I can't do any riding this weekend folks as I have gotten even more sick since yesterday. I can barely walk so the track days are definetly out of the question.

Yet I am happy, you know why? I reckon this was meant to be... I just got a letter in the mail today and it's about a race training day. Brain Bernard himself is holding it along with some of the other top racers. If I had gone this weekend, I certainly couldn't have afforded going to Manfield on next Saturday the 30th of October 2004 for it. It's $200 for the day. All I have to do is get rid of the flu by then.

I might still come just to Pukie to watch and time people though. :)


not might you HAVE to come.
Your learn tons from Briain Bernard i did around taupo

SpankMe
22nd October 2004, 14:21
I'll be at the Papakura Autobahn café at 0930 if anyone wants to meet for the ride to Puke.

V Twin Raver
22nd October 2004, 14:22
mmmmm shall I shant I shall I shant I fuck,, to be honest its a bit scary the thought of blating around Puke, Not sure if Im good enough. as well as the insurance thing oh arh oh arghhhh fuck ,what to do what to do, pressure Cajun pressure Oh fuck I cant cope anymooooo----------------------------

Come on Quas - You Can Do It!!

If there is no rain tomorrow I may just go do it myself. How much is it again? $80.00?

Cajun
22nd October 2004, 14:24
Come on Quas - You Can Do It!!

If there is no rain tomorrow I may just go do it myself. How much is it again? $80.00?

What time is start time??

Cajun
22nd October 2004, 14:33
found it myself 10.30 do they take eftpos or do ya need CASH!!!

SpankMe
22nd October 2004, 14:34
10:30am.
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=61

Motoracer
22nd October 2004, 14:36
It's either 10:15 or 10:30. Yep, 80 bucks for the day. You'll get plenty of riding. No eftpos (shit you Tauranga fellas are high tech), it's just good ol cash transactions only.

Cajun
22nd October 2004, 14:45
It's either 10:15 or 10:30. Yep, 80 bucks for the day. You'll get plenty of riding. No eftpos (shit you Tauranga fellas are high tech), it's just good ol cash transactions only.

Pfft i don't pay bank fee's so i do everything eftpos so i have to get some cash out when i full the bike up,

Coldkiwi
22nd October 2004, 15:00
P.S. I can't do any riding this weekend folks as I have gotten even more sick since yesterday. I can barely walk so the track days are definetly out of the question.


I might still come just to Pukie to watch and time people though. :)

oh mate! You're kidding me! Thats a serious downer. Now who am I going to follow to get faster? Might have to tag along behind ol' loosie :)

come along and give me pointers. I reckon you've got at least twice the experience as me now out there.

Motoracer
22nd October 2004, 15:21
oh mate! You're kidding me! Thats a serious downer. Now who am I going to follow to get faster? Might have to tag along behind ol' loosie :)

come along and give me pointers. I reckon you've got at least twice the experience as me now out there.
It's just about braking later, going full tits on the throttle as soon as possible and carrying as much speed as possible through turn one and two. It's nothing out of the ordinary I guess, but to go quicker, all you need to have is more confidence. I will come tomorrow. I better pick up some ear muffs otherwise I'll get a massive headache at track with all the noises.

Coldkiwi
22nd October 2004, 16:09
yeah, i'm looking forward to improving castrol curves a LOT tomorrow cause I spent 1/2 the day practicing through there especially last time. If I'm at 120m on the anchors at the hair pin I'll be happy and hopefully I can spend the rest of the time trying to get a consistent punch out of the hairpin.


mm... time for a good sleep and a decent thrash tomorrow! woohoo!

Quasievil
22nd October 2004, 17:43
Quasi can confirm he is coming, Ive only got two umbrella girls coming though. Is that enough do you think??

i will be at the track about 10 am see ya there. If anyone hears any knocking noises its not a bike so relax it will be my knees okay !!!:shit:

swanman
22nd October 2004, 17:49
Thanks I'll keep an eye out for you. Just got some leather race pants locally so am now fully equiped and the bike is fully run in (just), I'll give it max for the first time down the back straight at Puke!! I just now this is a damn fast bike.

Two Smoker
22nd October 2004, 18:44
WOOHOO this is going to be an awesome time!!!! Ill be at Papakura AB at 0930 Spank, and the RG will be there to muahahaha....

Im hoping for 1:12's on the 400..... and ill chuck in some 1:20's on the RG :niceone: might bring the sparkie knee sliders too.....

Yamahamaman
22nd October 2004, 19:07
I'm going to enjoy the twisties that Awakino offer not to mention other parts of Waikato and Taranaki :ride:

Quasievil
23rd October 2004, 06:40
Track report anyone, weather okay up there ???

6Chris6
23rd October 2004, 06:47
The weather's all good out my way, a little overcast, but no sign of the R word.
And we manufacture the weather in the West :msn-wink:

Quasievil
23rd October 2004, 06:52
The weather's all good out my way, a little overcast, but no sign of the R word.
And we manufacture the weather in the West :msn-wink:
great Im leaving in about 45 mins, you guys meeting somewhere or just at the track?
I heard a few things are manuafactured in the west:whistle:

2_SL0
23rd October 2004, 07:13
Dry , little bit overcast, with the sunny just peaking threw. (im in Hunua)

Two Smoker
23rd October 2004, 07:54
overcast!!!!!! im off now, ill see you at AB papakura and if not there at the track :yes:

SpankMe
23rd October 2004, 17:15
Another Open Day survived unscathed, which is more than I can say for about seven other bikes. We only got three sessions, but it was a good day. Lots of bikes, so the track was very crowded.

I have created an album (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=152) in the gallery if anyone has photos to upload.

Darryboy
23rd October 2004, 17:41
Awesome fun! Gutted that there's not supposed to be another one until next year :disapint:

Very proud of myself due to the state of my tyres and right peg :2thumbsup

I'd also like to thank everyone for putting up with my slow arse.

Cheers! :apint:

Two Smoker
23rd October 2004, 17:52
Awesome fun! Gutted that there's not supposed to be another one until next year :disapint:

Very proud of myself due to the state of my tyres and right peg :2thumbsup

I'd also like to thank everyone for putting up with my slow arse.

Cheers! :apint:
Nah mate there was nothing wrong with your pace mate, you have good lines and keep it up, your doing well..... The 1000's were worse too pass because of they often took weird lines and changed their lines too.....

Awesome day, 30 odd bikes in total....... Pretty pleased with my effort on the 400, just heard i had a best time of 1:12 flat with heaps of bikes on the track...... Looking forward to having a go in F3 class and having a clear track to put down some fast times.... Good too see MR turn up and eventually race, Spank had a great pace (in other words he would pass me and i wouldnt see him again.......) Couple of fast racers turned up, Jared Love on his Factory CBR1000, Mike from team metalform racing and Squid.....

I had a couple big slides on the hill, one where my peg dug in and lifted the rear a bit, and the other from where the tyre lost traction (not sticky enough for me, i need a Supercorsa on the back)..... Just need to go faster into Jennian and turn 2...... KK, your a bloody legend and fucking fast, i cant wait to watch you pull into the distance in F3.....

Hoon, top effort.... Had a spill in the 1st session and was back racing in the 2nd and 3rd....

Good too see that both That Guy and Curious George got there bikes running and on the track....

Great too meet heaps of you people and hope too ride with you guys again soon....

Hope everyone else fills in on the details.....

Two Smoker
23rd October 2004, 18:12
Just one other thing, Quasi mate, you were flying out there :niceone: Bloody everyone was flying out there....

Just incase you didnt meet me, i was on the Purple ZXR400 with no top fairing.....

Quasievil
23rd October 2004, 18:32
Just one other thing, Quasi mate, you were flying out there :niceone: Bloody everyone was flying out there....

Just incase you didnt meet me, i was on the Purple ZXR400 with no top fairing.....
Well thanks big fella, I got quicker as the day wore on, as is the usual story.
I recommend it to all, I think I really learnt alot today.
I had a nice ride down 22 and home thoroughly knackered, time for Hell pizza and a DVD.
Thanks all those that gave me a bit of advice and encouraged me through the day.

aff-man
23rd October 2004, 18:52
yeh guys i was to skint to ride but had a great day atching you go. Man those guys on the 1L bikes bloody fly. But everyone was doing very well and apart from a few incidents a really enjoyable day. :Punk:

Firefight
23rd October 2004, 19:00
Well thanks big fella, I got quicker as the day wore on, as is the usual story.
I recommend it to all, I think I really learnt alot today.
I had a nice ride down 22 and home thoroughly knackered, time for Hell pizza and a DVD.
Thanks all those that gave me a bit of advice and encouraged me through the day.

hey Bret, sorry I missed you today, was planning to pop down to watch, but got short notice recall to work, am still there now. Had a pretty fun trip up 22 yesterday in something a little different to my normal mode of transport
will tell you about it next time I catch up with you.

F/F

2_SL0
23rd October 2004, 19:10
I havent read any of the previous posts, so soz if this is a repeat of something someone has said.

I came out for a noisy, Soz I didnt say hi, I had the mini me and wife in toe. Looks like you all had a lot of fun. I easily spotted some of you guys, SpankMe seemed to be flying along easy to spot on silver bike all in black.. I lost track who was actually up front when you were all on the track. The funniest thing I saw was someone (not sure who?) would go past the grandstand on the front straight on one wheel every time. Then the next thing I saw was someone comin flying past (literally) doing the Superman look. Everyone in the stand suddenly turns and looks at this one guy come cruisen past with his legs sticking out the back. Did someone have a off on the back straight? Hope not?

Looks like you had good fun. Looked like a good turn out. :2thumbsup

Two Smoker
23rd October 2004, 19:17
I havent read any of the previous posts, so soz if this is a repeat of something someone has said.

I came out fro a noisy, Soz I didnt say hi, I had the mini me and wife in toe. Looks like you all had a lot of fun. I easily spotted some of you guys, Spank me seemed to be flying along easy to spot on silver bike all in black.. I lost track who was actually up front when you were all on the track. The funniest thing I saw was someone (not sure who?) would go past the grandstand on the front straight on one wheel every time. Then the next thing I saw was someone comin flying past (literally) doing the Superman look. Everyone in the stand suddenly turns and looks at this one guy come cruisen past with his legs sticking out the back. Did someone have a off on the back straight? Hope not?

Looks like you had good fun. Looked like a god turn out. :2thumbsup
Was that you i had a chat too in the pits??? John was the one doing stand up wheelies on the CBR1000RR (he isnt on KB) and i was the one doing the superman on the purple ZXR400 LMAO, a few people had some off's on the back straight.....

Worse crash of the day was the guy on the CBR250RR (from the Bay of Islands, also not on KB) who lowsided on Castrol and hit the barrier and broke his wrist and got a very bad concusion..... He is a bloody awesome rider too, does 1:18's on a CBR250RR

Kwaka-Kid
23rd October 2004, 19:22
Hey guys! awesome day, had loads of fun running some 1:20's or so( nobody was timing, felt around there) with the boys trying to get some stuff going. Shadey had some good stuff going on there on the racebike and came back in each time without even complaining about the problems with the bike that i go on about?

6Chris, what can one say man? I dont bother with feeding shit when it comes to the track dude, and when your not as pleased with your efforts at the end of the day as you would have hoped to have been, nothing short of a new 636 landing on your doorstep will put the dolmio grin on your mug. Thats not to say i wasnt short of impressed with your effort though, Your first time circulating the track and only 3 short runs to do it in? You came home with that first day out of the way (i had to do it, shade had to do it, we all have before) No scratches (new ones:P) on the bike, and some experience that will toss about your head for weeks to come - which DOES improve your riding for next time you go out, twasnt many months ago that i had done many a trackday+laps around pukekohe and had a fastest time on hte viffer of only around 1:18. So it WAS a good day for you. (next time take my 400 and honestly ride it like you stole it, dont mind if it hits the deck)

Take it easy all - also good to see you suck it up and just go do it MR! Thats the spirit mate.

swanman
23rd October 2004, 20:05
Well that was fun! I was the guy on the blue R1 that most people overtook! Nice to meet some of you folks. Realy enjoyed the 2 sessions I did, definitely quicker by the second session. On the ride home everything felt so slow in comparison.
Quite a few people ran off the track, which surprised me especially at the end of the back straight. My bike is still bedding in and I could only get up to 250 kmh by the end of the straight and I know other R1's and GSXR 1000's were doing about 300kmh. Ah well next time.

Did any one get any photos?

jaxda
23rd October 2004, 20:17
Hey guys. Spent most of the afternoon very entertained with some awesome bike handling. Would have loved to be out there, but the mighty Zeal proberbly isnt the ideal track bike. Meet a couple of u's in the pits then went up to the front straight for a few photo's then down to the hairpin in the next session for a few more. Have posted a couple in the gallery setup by spankme and will upload a few more on sunday. Sorry, as I dont actually know anyone, I wouldnt have a clue who I got pic's of.

erik
23rd October 2004, 21:28
jaxda, you ride a zeal too? Cool :) Maybe you saw my one parked in the carpark on the grandstand side of the track? I know what you mean about not the ideal bike for the track though... That's my excuse too, and I haven't got the $$.

I was there taking pics too. Me and Paparazzi rode down along some of the more windy roads rather than take the main highway. Not really great roads for hooning, but they were more interesting than the highway, I reckon (plus I'm not much of a hoon).

It was good fun spending the day there, talking to people and taking photos. I even met an old friend who was there testing his Alfa Romeo (a cage) that had promised me a ride in it. He was running the engine in so had to limit his speed, and unfortunately the car's suspension couldn't cope with my extra weight (90kg or so) and one of the wheels scraped on the wheelarch, so I had to get out after a few laps... :P It was fun anyway, but I think it's more fun hanging off a bike and leaning over etc. :yes:

I took 186 photos, not including the really bad ones that I just deleted straight away. I've managed to pick out 35 of the better ones which I have uploaded into the gallery in the 2004 events - Puke open day Oct gallery (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=152)
I've resized them to 640 by 480 (most of them, anyway. Some where cropped) to make them easier to view on the web, but if anyone wants the full size (1600x1200 pixels) version of a photo, pm or email me and I'll email it to you.

Appologies to anyone that I didn't get a pic of. Swanman, I looked through all the pics I got, but I couldn't see any blue R1's, must've missed you.

Kwaka-Kid
23rd October 2004, 21:40
Id also just like to put that FULL EBR Respect goes out to our brother CK. Richard before today you was just another chowicker, And as the track has brought my attention to the good guys out there a number of times in the past, it has done yet again. Your a wicked dude richard, and angela (i rememberd your name twice now, big ups for my memory!). You take it easy dude, and ive only just thought of it but i really appreciate you sticking around for us till the very end of the day.

Big ups to our East-Sider!

2_SL0
23rd October 2004, 21:45
Jaxda did you ride down, I didnt see your bike around. I saw Paparazzi and Eriks.

Two Smoker it wasnt me soz. May of been Jaxda.

Mr Skid
23rd October 2004, 23:18
I went through about 3 rolls of film - black and white of course, being the purist that I am.

I'll be in the darkroom sometime after the 13 November, and if I have got any decent shots, I'll upload them and/or make some 8x10's for the stars.

Hoon
23rd October 2004, 23:29
Yeah it was a good day....never seen so many bikes out there before and it was good to see so many 1st timers too - you couldn't have asked for a better day.

Good to see Shade, Shade Snr, TS, Guy and Curious George making some good progress. Hard luck for a few others like me, CK, Drunken Monkey and Bruno who's trusty two stroke had enough of his 1:11's and siezed on him.

It was very busy on the track and hard to put in good laps times but was still able to work on individual corners. I'm still annoyed with myself for getting a little too over-confident in the first session and deciding to see how far I could lean it over coming out of castrol. The bike dropped on its side, slid off the track and tumbled after hitting the ripple strip. Made a right mess out of my front fairing/screen, left clipon and brake/clutch levers. Luckily I had my spares so was back out next session minus front fairing/screen however I was about 20kph down on top speed. For the 3rd session I taped/cable tied all the front fairing pieces I had back together and made a screen out of a 5lt oil container (KK would've been proud!!!) just to confirm it was drag from no fairing and not some unknown mechanical problem. This fixed it so now I know front fairing is the difference between 200 and 220kph so there ya go Two Smoker that should be all the incentive you need!!

Also good on ya KK for being such a giver, sussing out Shade, carting bikes everywhere and donating your day to help out others!!

Firefight
24th October 2004, 06:41
Also good on ya KK for being such a giver, sussing out Shade, carting bikes everywhere and donating your day to help out others!!


Yes, the true side of Logan.


One of the good guys. :niceone:

F/F :wacko:

Two Smoker
24th October 2004, 08:19
Yep Hoon, definately need to get a new top fairing.... top effort to you for getting your bike back on the track.... It will be wicked to eventually be able to follow you guys.... Ive been processing what happened yesterday, and working out where i need to improve.... all i can say is, ive got alot of improving to do......

So when shall wee organise a Taupo Track Day????

That Guy
24th October 2004, 10:13
A good day. Chris thanks very much for the CD (thanks Cajun....where were you?) for the K4....most excellent.

Was a lotta bikes out there so getting in one clean lap wasn't really possible...but at least my RGV is sorted now, that has been a huge marathon getting it going. Was having fun following Bruno until he siezed, and then following Hoon until he crashed!

There was a bit of agro out there though; with so many bikes from 150s to 1000cc race bikes there was a huge difference in speeds and some riders lost their cool waiting to get past...I was waiting to get round a ZX6 dude (took about 3 corners), got by, only to have someone on a CBR thou riding past shaking his fist at me who was behind me! No patience some people. Wasn't a kiwibiker though.

Only other thing of concern was I stopped for the guy on the CBR250 who crashed - he was in a bad way and passed out on me twice (smashed wrist too). I was trying to help him right in a dangerous place. We were right on the edge of the track and some people where flying by at full nana only half a metre from us. One guy on a CBR even went by with his wheels skipping on the ripple strip with the throttle nailed. For all I knew at the time this guy could have been dying and having to worry about moving someone with possibly a broken neck etc because SOME riders wouldn't give us a safe berth was pretty dissapointing. I don't know who the culprits were (well I know the bikes) and once again not any kiwbikers I knew but if it was you -come on dudes - calm it down a bit! There are no marhsalls at those days so we need to take a bit of extra care....

That Guy
24th October 2004, 11:01
Oh yeah - big thanks to George for helping me with getting me RGVee fixed too! :niceone:

curious george
24th October 2004, 15:28
Like Guy said, a bit more room for the guys on the side of the track would have been nice.
(Does anybody remember his name? Richard Orr or something...)
The guy had a serious head injury, which may have turned bad, and having a track full of riders not slow down AFTER MORE THAN 4 LAPS KINDA PISSED ME OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WTF!!!
Come on guys, yes people fall off at the most inconvient times and places, but after a few laps with not a lot of movement, you should be able to guess something is badly wrong.
SLOW THE FUCK DOWN!!!!
It's just the kind of distraction that could have caused another crash, with 5 people involved, instead of just the one.
/rant.

Besides that, and those who binned it, (sorry), I think most people had a pretty good day. Shame it'll be a while untill the next one.
Taupo anyone?
Good to put some faces to the names from here too.

Quasievil
24th October 2004, 16:19
Yeah good points above, I actually didnt stop I saw a few guys there already so thought best to keep going expecting a flag to go up and a ambo to come onto the track, it didnt. It was my first time on a track day and will say I agree and am a bit disappointed with the organiserts in this regard.

While Im at it, I think it was more about getting the dollars in for the organisers as opposed to giving a valued day out for those who pay, the track seemed to get busier and busier as the day wore on. Personally I think it should be toned down as to how many bikes are out there at once and or grouped to different capacities. Ie Up to 600cc and 600cc up ??
I was just chatting to Jared Love at Repco, he to was dissappointed with the lack of time on the track and the lack of track space to work and tune his Factory Honda. He says there arent many track opportunities to get out there and prepare the bike for the racing season, the point being it would be good if they speed grouped the day so guys like him can have a open track without dodging 1924 enfeilds etc.

after all that it was a good day I had a bloody good time out there

Rick
24th October 2004, 16:45
I agree totally. Some flag marshalls would've been very useful on the corners and with the amount of $$ the organisers collected they could've paid people to do it.

Thou apart from that it was the most fun I have had on a road bike....I couldn't believe how fast the 1000s were passing me on the back straight. Up until then I thought my bike was fast.

Posh Tourer :P
24th October 2004, 16:50
I'll upload them and/or make some 8x10's for the stars.

Now that would be cool!!

k14
24th October 2004, 17:12
Sounds like most people had oodles of fun. Good to hear everyone on here was alright, hope the guy that crashed the CBR is alright.

Think you guys should move down here. At ruapuna the track is open to anyone on tuesdays and fridays. I went out there a few fridays ago and paid my $50 for the morning session (9-1) and had the whole track to myself for 2 hours. Then some guy in his work suv (ford escape i think) showed up and we just had turns (about 5 to 7 laps each) then swapped. It was pretty cool, nothing to worry about apart from me and the oil on turn 4.

That Guy
24th October 2004, 17:13
I think I'd rather pay $85 and get some marshalls than go through yesterday again. We probably didn't need more people to stop, we just needed an ambulance and a bit more of a safety margin from (some of) the other bikes (as some of them weren't able to apply self control and give us a wide berth). I was waving like a mad bugger at the crowd watching to try and get some attention to get St John over but I just got a lot of dumb stares back at me. In the end (after 4 laps or so) Darryboy went off to get some help as none was coming. He shouldn't of had to really.

In the end the guy did not have life threatening injuries but if had, it would be a different story today I think.....4 laps before anyone arrived? Why....law suits etc yuk..

I reckon there was at least 100 vehicles there yesterday - $8000. Pay 5 marshalls $200 each for the day and keep $7000 is still ok for them I would've thought.

That Guy
24th October 2004, 17:14
Sounds like most people had oodles of fun. Good to hear everyone on here was alright, hope the guy that crashed the CBR is alright.

Think you guys should move down here. At ruapuna the track is open to anyone on tuesdays and fridays. I went out there a few fridays ago and paid my $50 for the morning session (9-1) and had the whole track to myself for 2 hours. Then some guy in his work suv (ford escape i think) showed up and we just had turns (about 5 to 7 laps each) then swapped. It was pretty cool, nothing to worry about apart from me and the oil on turn 4.

Definately. You guys have a proper track, decent prices, nice city.....oh bum dorkland!

k14
24th October 2004, 17:16
Definately. You guys have a proper track, decent prices, nice city.....oh bum dorkland!

Yeah I know, it was a perfect day aswell, high teens and just a little cloudy, the track was mint as. Have arranged my lectures for next year so that I have fridays free for some "test" sessions :niceone: can't wait, although it could start to get expensive after a while.

manuboy
24th October 2004, 19:53
Yeah I know, it was a perfect day aswell, high teens and just a little cloudy, the track was mint as. Have arranged my lectures for next year so that I have fridays free for some "test" sessions :niceone: can't wait, although it could start to get expensive after a while.

Riding round ruapuna by yaself for a couple of hours on okay weather? that ain't fun. Im not keen....... ahem....fridays you say? Apart from the no insurance factor tho...what happens if you can it bigtime? Anybody there to pick you up???

Shade
24th October 2004, 20:01
First up -

Just wanna say a big thanks to KK - Was awesome of him to let me have a go on his race bike while my Dad used my road bike. Since my parents are moving over seas to America in Feb, was my first and probably last time to ride along side my Dad. Cheers dude, those memories will be around for a long time. - Not to mention going to all the trouble of packing his van full of tools / bike / gas / etc etc just to get the thing there, as well as picking up Ck's and TS's bikes on the way. Legend mate!! While I'm at it, the countless times you have fixed my bike when its stuffed, picked me up from out in the wops when i had a puncture, etc. So thanks man!!

Also, was awesome catching up with Hoon as always - Always a good chat and a good laugh to be had. Definatley one of the good guys and a real quiet achiever too. Legend dude.

Good to catch up with CK, Sudeep, TS etc. Cheers guys, good seeing you again eh! :)

A compliment has to be paid to all of KB in the pits (most of all i didnt catch your name, but had a chat to all of you) - Dad reckons your all a bunch wicked dudes, very friendly aye, so thats a bonus!

Thanks alot guys, was wicked fun, will be sure to do it again!

k14
24th October 2004, 20:08
Riding round ruapuna by yaself for a couple of hours on okay weather? that ain't fun. Im not keen....... ahem....fridays you say? Apart from the no insurance factor tho...what happens if you can it bigtime? Anybody there to pick you up???

It's mandatory to have a "spotter" so when you crash they have to clean all your body parts off the track. You have to leave the track in the "same" way it was when you arrived. If you pic the right day it is definately worth it. Not sure how much it is for a full day. Kickaha was out there with some guys and their sidecar, they showed up late so I had the track to myself till they arrived.

Drunken Monkey
25th October 2004, 09:31
.... I was waving like a mad bugger at the crowd watching to try and get some attention to get St John over but I just got a lot of dumb stares back at me. In the end (after 4 laps or so) Darryboy went off to get some help as none was coming. He shouldn't of had to really...

I didn't realise that was you! - I was the one who stopped first and helped you get his bike out of the way. When you were waving and no-one was respnding, I got back on my bike and went round to the pits to tell Gary what was happening.
On foot you also realise how dangerous it is on that corner - people were zooming past at well over 100 only a few feet away. I would have felt more comfortable if there was a Marshal waving a big yellow flag for people going into Castrol.

Drunken Monkey
25th October 2004, 09:40
On that note, big ups :2thumbsup to the Vic club and their track time at Manfield. Well organised, the right price (FREE!), and plenty of flag Marshals out there for those that went down - and quite a few went down with all that water everywhere!

Two Smoker
25th October 2004, 09:43
Glad too see you and bruce had an awesome time :niceone:

I just found out what was making me slide over the hill..... my Lower fairing was hitting the ground :crazy:

That Guy
25th October 2004, 09:48
I didn't realise that was you! - I was the one who stopped first and helped you get his bike out of the way. When you were waving and no-one was respnding, I got back on my bike and went round to the pits to tell Gary what was happening.
On foot you also realise how dangerous it is on that corner - people were zooming past at well over 100 only a few feet away. I would have felt more comfortable if there was a Marshal waving a big yellow flag for people going into Castrol.

twas you? Sorry about that I thought you were Darryboy. See what happens when we use these name handles instead of real names ! haha.

Yeah I didn't feel very safe either. Guess we were lucky. I didn't know they guy who crashed but if it happened there again after that experience I'd think twice about stopping and hope that someone else would......which is pretty sad eh? We should be encouraged to help fellow fallen bikers, not intimidated into thinking "feck that I won't stop next time".

Darryboy
25th October 2004, 10:59
Yeah, I did stop and helped move some of your gear across the track but I didn't manage to tell the track guys of the incident. Hope the dudes alright.

scroter
25th October 2004, 11:44
Only other thing of concern was I stopped for the guy on the CBR250 who crashed - he was in a bad way and passed out on me twice (smashed wrist too). I was trying to help him right in a dangerous place. We were right on the edge of the track and some people where flying by at full nana only half a metre from us. One guy on a CBR even went by with his wheels skipping on the ripple strip with the throttle nailed. For all I knew at the time this guy could have been dying and having to worry about moving someone with possibly a broken neck etc because SOME riders wouldn't give us a safe berth was pretty dissapointing. I don't know who the culprits were (well I know the bikes) and once again not any kiwbikers I knew but if it was you -come on dudes - calm it down a bit! There are no marhsalls at those days so we need to take a bit of extra care....

I wonder why the session didnt get red flagged after going round for about 4 laps with guy still lying there on the deck. we couldve just gone out after it got sorted. clearly the guy was hurt.

Two Smoker
25th October 2004, 11:49
I wonder why the session didnt get red flagged after going round for about 4 laps with guy still lying there on the deck. we couldve just gone out after it got sorted. clearly the guy was hurt.
Shit yeah, maybe they do need to invest in some marshalls........

750Y
26th October 2004, 08:16
Top marks to You guys that stopped to help him out.
I had just arrived at the castrol grandstand and was waving like a fuggin idiot trying to signal the riders to slow down. I was amazed how long it took for Gary to get his ass out there. I've met that cbr rider a few times out there & he's a nice guy. As far as the guys speeding past the scene only feet away.. man that's slap material in my book. interesting to note that the crash bales were lined up BEHIND the armco where he crashed in preparation for track time on Monday. Gary had specifically told them not to put them over yet, because of the cars.

That Guy
26th October 2004, 08:25
interesting to note that the crash bales were lined up BEHIND the armco where he crashed in preparation for track time on Monday. Gary had specifically told them not to put them over yet, because of the cars.

Nice to know a car's $80 is worth more than a bikes $80....thos bales would've saved CBR250 dude and probably some of Hoon's damage too.

sigh.

Coldkiwi
26th October 2004, 11:57
Hmm, the wonderful world of Puke?

Until I chucked it away, I was having an absolute ball. the ex race Supercorsas I have on are unlike any tyres I've had before. Unbeleivably grippy and a huge increase in stability under acceleration and braking. Was hitting the brakes as late as I have ever done and still had room to improve.
It was a bit crowded but it wasn't really a problem till I over extended myself going in to the hairpin and forgot to look away from the CBR1000 that wanted a slightly wider entry and what do you know, I ended up bumping fairings while hard on the anchors and had a wee bit of a highside. Pretty annoyed at myself for not allowing a bit more room or refocusing when the guy in front changed lines.

Big cheers go to
750y for the race fairings - definitely worth the money! Not much too anyone good now tho.
Aff-man for helping me fit the fairings and the crash bungs
KK for picking me and the missus up and carting us+ bike round. You the man!
Quasi for patching me shoulder up.

the bikes looking a little sad but should be on the road in the next two weeks I hope.

750Y
26th October 2004, 12:19
sorry to hear you went down CK,Highside ouch! glad You're ok. i hope the bike's ok & glad the fairings & bungs came in handy... sounds like they did their job. I still have one fastener at home. If it's not too bad I'm sure they can be glassed up again.

CBobR
30th October 2004, 16:10
Hi All,
I just wanted to say a huge thank you to the people who helped me out at Puke, I was the dork who binned the CBR250 at Castrol :o. Also, sorry to everyone for causing a hold up when track time was already limited that day.

I don’t have much memory of the crash, I just woke up on the grass wondering what I did wrong. Did anyone see how I messed up? I don’t want to make the same mistake again :).

I haven’t seen my bike since the accident, so I haven’t got any plans for it yet. I am looking forward to getting used to my brand new titanium reinforced wrist so I can get back on it eventually though.

Thanks again.

Two Smoker
30th October 2004, 17:19
Hi All,
I just wanted to say a huge thank you to the people who helped me out at Puke, I was the dork who binned the CBR250 at Castrol :o. Also, sorry to everyone for causing a hold up when track time was already limited that day.

I don’t have much memory of the crash, I just woke up on the grass wondering what I did wrong. Did anyone see how I messed up? I don’t want to make the same mistake again :).

I haven’t seen my bike since the accident, so I haven’t got any plans for it yet. I am looking forward to getting used to my brand new titanium reinforced wrist so I can get back on it eventually though.

Thanks again.
Hey man, Its Chris here (Black RG150)... How are you???? what happened to the wrist??

I believe people said it was a lowside. Possibly digging the peg in too deep... Bike is still rideable (some guy rode it back into the pits) so that is looking good :niceone:

Your not a dork mate... crashes happen when your on/pushing the limits...

Glad you joined KB too :niceone: How long before you can get back on the bike??

CBobR
30th October 2004, 19:52
Hi Chris, nice to meet you again (and everyone else from here that I run into at these things) on saturday. I'm great, back to work this monday, no worse than a bad cold really :).

A few things in my wrist got disintegrated/rearranged, but the docs say it will eventually be fully right. I'm kinda lucky I got knocked out, I didn't feel any real pain until after my operation on thursday. I don't know how it happened but my neck is pretty gory, good for halloween :). I should be able to ride again in about 6 weeks when I lose my cast and can fit my hand in a glove again.

My helmet and gloves are impressively trashed, but my leathers look almost new (big thanks to the people who got me out of them before anyone decided to cut them off me :)).

Thanks for the good news about the bike, the ambulance crew (who along with all the middlemore staff were great) dragged me away before I could have a good look. Depending on the cost to fix, the cbr250 will either be back restored as my daily ride (I clearly have a lot more to learn on a little bike before upgrading), or it will sit as is in my garage next to whatever cheap R6/gsxr600 etc I can find. I've been thinking a little about the suggestion a couple of the KB guys made about making it an SS150 bike, but I can't really afford a tow vehicle and crashing a 45bhp bike on a dry track is not good for the confidence. Hrmmm, puzzling crash, I wasn't pushing quite as hard in the last session because there were so many bikes out (which was great to see) so I (think I) was just gently touching the pegs down, I do remember taking some weird lines through the esses and castrol trying to give people plenty of room when passing, maybe I hit some marbles or something. At first I thought I high sided because I hurt my left side, but apparently thats where I bounced off the wall :).

I have to thank everyone that helped again, very much appreciated, I don’t think my first post conveyed my gratefulness enough.

Kwaka-Kid
30th October 2004, 20:31
hey dude! good to read that your going to be sweet as!

And yeah them KB'ers are pretty good huh! - Sorry i didnt see you come off but i came off in a F3 race there only a few weeks back but fortunatly enough i must have by the time my back end came around to overtake me been far enough around the corner to pretty much just slide down the backstraight and off to hte side a bit-no wall hit.

Dude from what i hear (Sorry didnt catch much of you myself, yah blitzed me!) your a pretty quick rider - but yeah mate i think theres always learning to be done even if it is on a 45hp bike! Anyways take it easy and all the best!

-oh also - dunno if you remember but i had 2x Bright yellow VFR400's out there, so hey!

Two Smoker
31st October 2004, 07:48
Mate what you need is a 400, i dont think you can push that CBR much harder at all.....

For your riding style going from a 250-a 600 is manageable but is still quite a big jump.... where jumping on a 400 is comfortable, just a little more weight and power (about 65hp and 163kgs...) so either way it would be a good choice, but i dont reakon you should cross out a 400.....

Glad your on the road to recovery and hope too see you at the Feb track days.....

Drunken Monkey
31st October 2004, 09:17
I don’t have much memory of the crash, I just woke up on the grass wondering what I did wrong. Did anyone see how I messed up? I don’t want to make the same mistake again :).


Glad to hear you're ok. I saw you come off, I was just exiting the esses. There was a puff of smoke from a tyre, but I can't remember if that was before or after you low-sided. You had the bike well over - if I were a betting man I'd go with 2smoker's guess = a peg in the ground might have caught on some rough stuff and lifted your back wheel...
I can't remember much more than that, sorry, even thought I saw it, I was kinda looking down my own line and caught it all out of the 'corner of my eye'.

750Y rode your bike back to the pits, it was still straight. He reckoned it rode mint, so you probably only have to worry about the expensive cosmetic bits :)

CBobR
31st October 2004, 11:35
Thanks KK, I do remember a nice sounding, distinctive looking pair of VFRs out there in the group. My 250 definitely has a lot more to teach me, I‘ve been wanting to do a Track-Time day for ages but I suck at organizing things. I’ll try a lot harder to make it to an instruction day when I have a working bike again.

400s are something I will think a lot about after seeing yours flying TS. Do you know if 400cc sportsbikes generally have better ground clearance than their 250cc versions? I was thinking about getting some rear sets made for my CBR but I think the exhaust isn’t very far behind grounding after the pegs anyway. I will definitely be at the track days next year, probably hanging off like a chimpanzee to keep my bike as upright as possible though :).

Cool, thanks for that DM. It is a lot nicer knowing it is a problem with my riding style that can be fixed, although I was kind of hoping for a hidden oil puddle to blame :). I just want my frame, tank and instruments to be okay, everything else can be fixed with a generous amount of duct tape :). And thanks for getting it back to the pits safely for me 750Y. Gary is looking after it for me until I can get back down there to collect her.

Two Smoker
31st October 2004, 12:34
[QUOTE=CBobR]
400s are something I will think a lot about after seeing yours flying TS. Do you know if 400cc sportsbikes generally have better ground clearance than their 250cc versions? I was thinking about getting some rear sets made for my CBR but I think the exhaust isn’t very far behind grounding after the pegs anyway. I will definitely be at the track days next year, probably hanging off like a chimpanzee to keep my bike as upright as possible though :).

I dont know whether it has different ground clearances.... On that day i was scraping the peg, and the fairing was hitting the ground which was pushed up against the exhaust...... A stock standard 400 should be able to do (with good tyres and set up suspension) do 1:09's.... so you can benefit and learn far more on the 400.....

curious george
31st October 2004, 13:00
Hey, I stoped with Guy and lifted you into the middle of ther track.
Jeez, you were so out of it, do you remember anything?
From what I remember, people said you were riding really well, but leaned way way over, so perhaps you hit your foot peg, or just slipped of the edge of the tyre?
Another comment was your tyres probably weren't up to the spped you were giving them, something to check next time?
How did you get your bike back, and your self? You had a way to go (Russel)?
You really gave Guy a fright, especially the second time you fainted!!!
I was trying to get hold of you at Middlemore, but couldn't remember your name, sorry!
Anyway, glad to hear they patched you up OK

That Guy
31st October 2004, 19:41
Hey there - good to hear you were ok. George is right when you flaked out on me I was thinking "oh crap - I'm gonna have to do CPR on this guy with mad ejiots only a metre away from me!" Thankfully you woke up! I was following you when you crashed (after you passed me something wicked leaned so far over I was expecting you to lie down before then to be honest!! :gob: ) you were only 20 metres or so in front of me and yep you low sided (then the bike stood up and went over the other way too with you having a high speed argument with the armco)...it looked like you simply rode off the edge of the tyres.....happened pretty quickly.

See you at the next track day!

CBobR
31st October 2004, 20:26
Wow thanks Curious George and That Guy (and others that helped, I don’t know your names sorry), you fellas are legends! I probably won’t recognize you guys if I see you again (my memory is bad even without concussion), but if you see me at a future trackday please introduce yourselves so I can buy you guys lunch or something. To answer your questions George, I don’t remember the crash itself. I remember waking up on the side of the track and trying to crawl to the wall, then I found a clutch lever, realised it wasn’t mine and fell over. The next thing I remember was people helping me across the track and sitting me in the infield so I could see my bike across the track, I vaguely remember everything from that point on. I think TS’s snagged peg theory is probably what did happen. I had a near new matching set of Michelin Pilot Sports that were giving good grip and wearing nicely on the day, I think they had about 1mm chicken strips front and rear after grounding the pegs in the earlier sessions. I am back in the Bay of Islands in time for work tomorrow (thanks for the lift home mum :)), hopefully I can get back down to Puke in a few weeks to bring my bike home. Thanks again, you guys really went beyond what I’d expect.

Hrrmmm, food for thought TS thanks. Does the extra power of a 400 mean you have to be gentle on the throttle over the mountain? I am full throttle pretty much from the hairpin exit to the end of the sweeper on my 250, and feel like I’m missing out on learning some throttle control, is a 400 much better here?

Kwaka-Kid
31st October 2004, 20:47
Bob (is it?), for what its worth (possibly not too much as ive got some of my own learning to do) I dont know about the peg theory! Depending on if you had hero blobs in or out? I personally am dead against hero blobs, they are a fine point and yes can snag - although i dragged my originals over pukekohe and never had trouble! and also Castrol IMHO is the smoothest unless you hit your peg on the ripple strip, but found i got a smoother softer feel out of taking them out and just grinding the alloy peg itself away - its a soft metal and even thru bumps on the ground it doesnt do squat! the pegs are spring loaded and made to kick up, and they do exactly that when they hit the ground. The 400 is a bit harder to hit pegs then your current 250, however i did eventually throw some Coerce rear sets on the 400 (ONLY because they were free) if they werent free i would have stayed scraping the stockers, although i cut mine down to half length on one set just as a trial(its an allright idea, stops you from being distracted by the peg scraping noise)

400 power vs 250? Out of the hairpin according to the guys that are doing it properly you should be able to be on the power from the start of the hairpin right thru to jennian, however im yet to experience this fully, i can only do it by short shifting for the hill and running lower revvs so not full power thru the back wheel - if i sit in a lower gear i slightly ease back the throttle just hitting the crest of the hill as i swing wide, then nail it as soon as i tilt the bike up a tad.

oh and about learning throttle control - castrol is about the place you learn it, number 1 thing that makes a difference in back straight speed is how early your keen to get on that throttle! (aswell as rolling into castrol fast) just dont Premature Ejectulate yourself like i did.


Meh- just go have fun dude, 400 or 250, its all fun!

Two Smoker
31st October 2004, 20:51
Hrrmmm, food for thought TS thanks. Does the extra power of a 400 mean you have to be gentle on the throttle over the mountain? I am full throttle pretty much from the hairpin exit to the end of the sweeper on my 250, and feel like I’m missing out on learning some throttle control, is a 400 much better here?
The one to talk about that would be KK, i had a couple slides on the hill when i was full throttle, so yeah there is some throttle control required..... not as much as a 600 or a 1000, but enough to learn alot..... The 400 has points on the track where you can't go full throttle or you have to back off a little...... Next time im there, you can have a go on the ZXR (should be a fully fledged race bike by then) thats if you already havnt gotten a bigger bike by then.....

k14
31st October 2004, 20:51
I had a moment on my cbr a few weeks ago at ruapuna. Going through the kink on the back straight at around 120ish the left peg dug in and made me have a little wobble, so that could be the reason it happened. Might be able to see better when you get your bike back.

Glad to see you're not too badly hurt after what sounds like a fairly bad accident.

CBobR
1st November 2004, 18:50
Yep, no hero blobs that day KK. Maybe just too much weight supported by the peg rather than the rear tyre, too far from the clean grippy line? Might have concentrate more on weighting the outside peg more next time, to allow the grounded peg to give more easily?

Looks like I’m going to have to ride a few 400s soon. Thanks very much for the offer TS, I’ll have to see if I’m feeling brave enough to have a go on someone else’s bike next trackday after what I did to my bike last time. I was keen on an RVF400 about 2 months ago, but I had a go on a very dodge one at a dealer that hadn’t been through their inspection scheme yet, put me off temporarily.

Thanks K14, the accident sounds a lot worse than it felt, I think I was just a bit unlucky to go off in an area where the wall was so close to the track (can’t ask them to move the railway track just behind the fence though :) ). I really hope no one has been put off by my accident, I’ve had more than enough fun at trackdays to offset a bit of time in a cast, and the skills I’ve learnt there have probably saved me many times on the road already.

curious george
1st November 2004, 19:23
If the crash bags are already there, do you think Gary would let us put them out?
If 5 of us got out early, it would take about 10 mins max to make castrol safer.
I don't think there is anything at the john deer rise thingy, or is there?
Whadda ya say? Who's in?

And the next track day isn't untill March-April???
Any bets?

CBobR
2nd November 2004, 20:59
Whadda ya say? Who's in?


I not sure what the reason for not using the crash bales on open days is (anyone know?), but if it was feasible to put them out, I'd be keen to help out.

magnum
2nd November 2004, 21:30
hey bob glad to hear you are ok,shame about the off.everyone was a bit worried for ya.just came right from a broken arm and know how you feel,the last 2 weeks are hard as you cant wait to get the bugger off. :ride: all the best and hope you have a good fast recovery,and will see ya on the track next year.

scroter
19th November 2004, 11:01
Yep, no hero blobs that day KK. Maybe just too much weight supported by the peg rather than the rear tyre, too far from the clean grippy line? Might have concentrate more on weighting the outside peg more next time, to allow the grounded peg to give more easily?

Looks like I’m going to have to ride a few 400s soon. Thanks very much for the offer TS, I’ll have to see if I’m feeling brave enough to have a go on someone else’s bike next trackday after what I did to my bike last time. I was keen on an RVF400 about 2 months ago, but I had a go on a very dodge one at a dealer that hadn’t been through their inspection scheme yet, put me off temporarily.

Thanks K14, the accident sounds a lot worse than it felt, I think I was just a bit unlucky to go off in an area where the wall was so close to the track (can’t ask them to move the railway track just behind the fence though :) ). I really hope no one has been put off by my accident, I’ve had more than enough fun at trackdays to offset a bit of time in a cast, and the skills I’ve learnt there have probably saved me many times on the road already.

i would say definitly pegs but what would i know if you got chicken strips on your tyres still then theres no way your rolling off the edge of them however they still might lose grip. but more likely pegging down too much. once your peg goes down if you lean any further your rear suspension works backwards and in extreme cases will lift your back wheel right off the deck. you dont need bumps to do it but they help. anyway good to here your ok. shit it was bloody worrying for everyone to see you liking there KO'd for 4 whole laps and nothing done apart from the guys that stopped to help you.