So long and farewell ...

[ZeroIndex]

Well, Court finally happened on Monday for the incident: "ZeroIndex Bins (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=53902)"

I think I got off pretty damn lightly, and when I get my license back, to be a lot more careful, and I really hope I can continually learn my lesson.

So, what did I do wrong (according to the police report)? I ran a red light at 3am on a fairly deserted road, turned up another road, at which the cops got behind me, put on their red and blue flashy lights, which I didn't notice due to no mirrors, although they said I looked back and then raced off, which I have no idea why I did that, but that aside, did approx 100km/h in a 50km/h area, cut a corner, narrowly missing a car, then on the next corner, high-sided off my bike.

I remember leaving my friends house just before 3am, then I woke up in hospital, and after visiting my doctor the other day, it turns out I suffered quite a severe concussion.

So, motto of the story, always wear a helmet, don't run red lights, and don't be an idiot. For now I have learnt my lesson, and I'm hoping that it stays that way.

For my troubles (talking about being let off lightly), they disqualified my license for 6 months (which I expected), gave me 60 hours of community work (since I don't have a job and can't afford to pay a fine), and to top it off, which worked out pretty well (due to me not being able to afford a fine), they confiscated my bike (I just dropped it off at Turners Auctions, Hamilton).

Their reason for confiscating my bike is very reasonable, cause my charges were "Not stopping for a vehicle displaying red and blue flashing lights" and "Dangerous Driving", and the "not stopping" only carries a cash value fine (up to $4500), which they pretty-much dropped and just confiscated my bike (which I would've been happy to sell for $500).

Thanks to the people on my "ZeroIndex Bins" thread that didn't personally attack me. I now know what I did, and know that it was wrong, and hopefully anyone reading this doesn't make the same mistake.

Final pictures of my bike before delivering it to Turners Auctions for confiscation to follow.

-ZeroIndex

Ps. I've got a spare shorty muffler now :innocent:

[dino3310]

bugga is all i can say bro,
im glad no one got seriously hurt

[scumdog]

So ya did all this shit and never ever thought it would end in tears as it has?

All I can wish is that you HAVE learned something useful - soething that will help you live longer.

Oh, and get a job.

[Boob Johnson]

So ya did all this shit and never ever thought it would end in tears as it has?

All I can wish is that you HAVE learned something useful - something that will help you live longer.

Oh, and get a job.Well that was pretty polite considering, but SD is a cop so id expect it from him.


Im not going to be quite so. I too hope you learned your lesson Zero & not just about this incident, your general attitude, just glad tools like you don't live anywhere near me to be honest. All ive seen of you is neg repping me for bumping a for sale thread for my HD bike jacket (like wtf dude?), ive got one neg rep here in KB'er and it was from you for the fore mentioned. Then you crap off ya bike while stunting on a PUBLIC road, fucking it & not having any money to fix it :weird:


Then posting about this incident prior to the court decision & the court decision itself. I know of people who have had an accident & been gun shy to post about it (a simple mistake) but you take the cake, you act like a clown & post it for the world to see.


Im just happy for the general public of the Tron that your off the road.


Sorry if this sounds harsh.......you need it.


Honestly hope you do learn a lesson, grow a brain & wise up cause God forbid you'll be back on the road one day.

[Zapf]

ouchy... well its really true about not hearing the sirens and seeing red and blue from behind...

the other evening I didn't knew there was a cop car behind me until they were very close, gave me a fright... even thou they just wanted to get past and attend to their own business.

[Warr]

All good Rob. Good thing there was a copy of your post somewhere else!!
I wonder if you will get all the same lame posts added to this thread

[NighthawkNZ]

I will admit I haven't heard the cops serin a couple of times... ear plugs... helmet and all that, wind noise... me being deaf as a door nail :doh:

But you should be checking your surroundings all the time... know not just whats ahead, but behind, and beside you, heck even whats above...

I do hope you have learnt your lesson and glad that no innicent party was involved and got hurt.

[Indiana_Jones]

Well as long as a lession has been learnt, then atleast this hasn't all been in vain :yes:

-Indy

[Bass]

ouchy... well its really true about not hearing the sirens and seeing red and blue from behind...

the other evening I didn't knew there was a cop car behind me until they were very close, gave me a fright... even thou they just wanted to get past and attend to their own business.

I had one that worked the other way. I could hear him, but he was so close behind that I couldn't see him in either mirror. It was a few seconds before I worked out what was going on. We must have just about been mating number plates - what sort of bastard offspring would that have resulted in ?
Dipshit !!

[RC1]

one less fuckwit on a bike who cant ride :woohoo:

[Max Preload]

...heck even whats above...

Especially what's above you... :Police:

[TKDSKIP]

Hey Zero, its not good you lost your bike even at $500 I would hate some prick to take my bike. BUT (and look its a big one) it had to happen, I never met you and the only pieces of ZeroIndex I know are when I read what you or others have written, it doesnt paint a pretty picture most of the time. Maybe sometime to reflect on past actions, learn the lessons that it seems others have tried to share with you.
Do your time, accept that the wrong decisions have been made and look me up for a ride in the future.

[dangerous]

I ran a red light at 3am
no helmet,
no mirrors,
and then raced off, did approx 100km/h in a 50km/h area,
cut a corner, narrowly missing a car,
then on the next corner,
high-sided off my bike.


Well, I aint as kind as other posters here... Zero, you are a 'A' grade fuckwit... the word LOOSER comes to mind, and thats just for posting about ya thoughtless brain dead antics... ever give anyone else a thought through all of that???
What were ya, stoned, pissed, munted on some crazy shit you young ones are hell bent on? come on now you cant have been straight, no helmet... ever heard of fifth syndrome?

Thanks to the actions of the likes of you, my ACC is high, my insurance is high... other young buggers that do it all by the book cant get insurance, and to think that it could have so easily ended up with a fatal outcome, and I dont mean you but an innocent by stander, or their child.

You got off bloody lightly as far as Im concerned... and I make no apologies for my post, but will however applaud you if you should ever show me you have in fact learnt from this and do your bit to stop others from such stupid shit.

[Taz]

+1
well said Dangerous.
He still seems quite proud of it?

[ZeroIndex]

So ya did all this shit and never ever thought it would end in tears as it has?

All I can wish is that you HAVE learned something useful - soething that will help you live longer.

Oh, and get a job.
I actually don't recall any of this "shit" mentioned above... I left my friends house at 3am (yes, I had 1 beer around 12pm, and by 1, i mean one standard beer... export gold i think it was). Yes I'm pretty sure I've learned that being on the road is a privilege, and it's not a racetrack.


Well that was pretty polite considering, but SD is a cop so id expect it from him.


Im not going to be quite so. I too hope you learned your lesson Zero & not just about this incident, your general attitude, just glad tools like you don't live anywhere near me to be honest. All ive seen of you is neg repping me for bumping a for sale thread for my HD bike jacket (like wtf dude?), ive got one neg rep here in KB'er and it was from you for the fore mentioned. Then you crap off ya bike while stunting on a PUBLIC road, fucking it & not having any money to fix it :weird:


Then posting about this incident prior to the court decision & the court decision itself. I know of people who have had an accident & been gun shy to post about it (a simple mistake) but you take the cake, you act like a clown & post it for the world to see.


Im just happy for the general public of the Tron that your off the road.


Sorry if this sounds harsh.......you need it.


Honestly hope you do learn a lesson, grow a brain & wise up cause God forbid you'll be back on the road one day.
If you think about it: If i hadn't crashed my bike while stunting on a deserted road (public and dumb as it may have been), I would've had to surrender a perfectly good bike...

I apologise for the prior red rep about your thread bumping about the HD jacket. Might've been a bad week, I don't know.


All good Rob. Good thing there was a copy of your post somewhere else!!
I wonder if you will get all the same lame posts added to this thread
The previous posts before KB went down were a lot more supportive... I want my 11 Green Reps back :bleh:


Well, I aint as kind as other posters here... Zero, you are a 'A' grade fuckwit... the word LOOSER comes to mind, and thats just for posting about ya thoughtless brain dead antics... ever give anyone else a thought through all of that???
What were ya, stoned, pissed, munted on some crazy shit you young ones are hell bent on? come on now you cant have been straight, no helmet... ever heard of fifth syndrome?

Thanks to the actions of the likes of you, my ACC is high, my insurance is high... other young buggers that do it all by the book cant get insurance, and to think that it could have so easily ended up with a fatal outcome, and I dont mean you but an innocent by stander, or their child.

You got off bloody lightly as far as Im concerned... and I make no apologies for my post, but will however applaud you if you should ever show me you have in fact learnt from this and do your bit to stop others from such stupid shit.
Ok, Mr Dangerous... to started, I think the word you were looking for (that you even put in bold letters, would be spelt Loser, not looser. Not sure what I could get munted on, I wasn't stoned, I don't do drugs... And according to previous research, 1 beer, 3 hours prior to riding, has never caused me to even become tipsy, so drunk wasn't one of the things...
I remember pulling out of my mates driveway when I left his house around 3am, and then woke up in hospital... why I ended up where I did, and why I chose to ran remain a mystery to me.

Where exactly does it say "No helmet"? I always ride with a helmet... here's a picture of the damage to it... What I said was, that if I wasn't wearing a helmet, the damage would have been a lot worse.

I apologise in advance for the undeniable fact that ACC and insurance for motorcycles is going to go up 150% due to my actions <- p/t

And to wrap this post up, yes, I did get off lucky, but I thank God and the authorities, that they believe that I will and have learnt from this experience.

I'm glad that I'm off the road for 6 months, cause it will give me time for self-reflection, and a better understanding that being on the road is a privilege not a right.

[dangerous]

Where exactly does it say "No helmet"? I always ride with a helmet...

Well read your quote below and you will understand why I thought such.

You did well to answer the quotes above, and you would be suprised how many have bolted like that and ened up on their arse (not me tho)


So, motto of the story, always wear a helmet, don't run red lights, and don't be an idiot.

[ZeroIndex]

Well read your quote below and you will understand why I thought such.

You did well to answer the quotes above, and you would be suprised how many have bolted like that and ened up on their arse (not me tho)
Fair enough dude...

And with the quotes above, yes, previously I have acted like a dick, and people don't need to be subjected to that all day long, so yeah, I'm trying to better myself, and be helpful where I can :)

[Taz]

I do honestly think there is hope for you Zero.

[mbazza]

Thanks for posting the outcome! I hate doing this but . . . . . . . what Scumdog said! Chairs.:whocares:

[Virago]

I've just caught up with this again - I didn't realise that the original thread had been lost in "the crash". Interesting to see the different response to the thread this time round...

There's no doubt about it, ZeroIndex, you've kept us all amused and exasperated with your clowning and antics.

I am impressed however, with your acceptance of your mistakes, and your apparent gratitude for your lenient punishment.

So you're on the old bicycle now, eh? Well, I look forward to reading your "bicycle stunting" threads, and also looking forward to your return to the fold - a little older, a little wiser.

Good luck.:msn-wink:

[Grahameeboy]

Well none of are perfect, life is an experience and all we can do is try and learn form our experiences.

I respect the fact that you have been open about stuff and this does not make you a loser matey.:niceone:

Take care and just use this time to reflect eh.

[ZeroIndex]

I've just caught up with this again - I didn't realise that the original thread had been lost in "the crash". Interesting to see the different response to the thread this time round...

There's no doubt about it, ZeroIndex, you've kept us all amused and exasperated with your clowning and antics.

I am impressed however, with your acceptance of your mistakes, and your apparent gratitude for your lenient punishment.

So you're on the old bicycle now, eh? Well, I look forward to reading your "bicycle stunting" threads, and also looking forward to your return to the fold - a little older, a little wiser.

Good luck.:msn-wink:
Well, today was day one of bicycle stunting (thanks to Sidewinder)... was actually quite fun, although, it is more difficult doing wheelies on a bicycle than on my old FZR... the stoppies were cool, except for the one... it went up to high, the bike fully endoed, and I ended up a metre ahead of it on the ground... fortunately, I was playing around on the grass so it didn't hurt too much... My only good wheelie went up, past 12, then I was on the grass, both events were strangely very laughable and very funny...

[Drum]

..........so yeah, I'm trying to better myself, and be helpful where I can :)

Good on ya mate. Learn from it and move on eh.

[dangerous]

I respect the fact that you have been open about stuff and this does not make you a loser matey.:niceone:


I said the 'word' comes to mind... didnt call ZI a looser... er loser, he dealt with my post well, impressed.


... it went up to high, the bike fully endoed, and I ended up a metre ahead of it on the ground... fortunately, I was playing around on the grass

LOL, same but I split between my mates on the road picking up speed and looped, but the bike was new and I didnt want to let go and couldent keep up running behind it and triped landing on the bloody thing and putting the bar end through my chest, big hole and fractured ribs. dumb aye:apint:

[Conquiztador]

Where do I sign up for a membership to the "Look at me, the sun shines outta my azz, I have never done anything stupid" club???

Hmmm... cancel that, I just remembered some shit I done. So sorry, the membership in the club will for now have to stay at single figures...

[Skyryder]

Well it's all a learning curve ol' son. When the curve levels out that's much the same as flatlining.
Skyryder

[90s]

Well Zero, we've argued before etc but I am impressed the way you are handling this. I agree with everyone that the 'old' zero is off the road before he caused damage to someone other than himself, and am glad too that you haven't ended up with serious injuries of your own.
There seems to be some scepticism that you have really learned anything, but I hope you have. We have all done very stupid things. Although these days I wear OTTboots, back protector and kneeguards on top of everything else and generally am a "voice of caution and responsibility" I started riding legally at 15. My friends and I did wheel spins, coordinated 180 degs etc. which I now would flip at if I saw kids doing it down my street. Although I had two grandmothers both hit by drunk drivers (one killed) I had to learn my own way that bikes and beer do not mix (I never had any incidents, but learnign takes time).

So enjoy your mountain bike. Unlike motorbikes a stoppie is very likely to pitch you over the top, but you should have some fun.

When you get back on the road again show us you've changed and show you skills and speed off at events and track days.

Old man post over.

[Max Preload]

Well, today was day one of bicycle stunting (thanks to Sidewinder)... was actually quite fun, although, it is more difficult doing wheelies on a bicycle than on my old FZR... the stoppies were cool, except for the one... it went up to high, the bike fully endoed, and I ended up a metre ahead of it on the ground... fortunately, I was playing around on the grass so it didn't hurt too much... My only good wheelie went up, past 12, then I was on the grass, both events were strangely very laughable and very funny...

And nowhere near as painful on either the body, the wallet or the drivers license... :woohoo:

[ZeroIndex]

Well Zero, we've argued before etc but I am impressed the way you are handling this. I agree with everyone that the 'old' zero is off the road before he caused damage to someone other than himself, and am glad too that you haven't ended up with serious injuries of your own.
There seems to be some scepticism that you have really learned anything, but I hope you have. We have all done very stupid things. Although these days I wear OTTboots, back protector and kneeguards on top of everything else and generally am a "voice of caution and responsibility" I started riding legally at 15. My friends and I did wheel spins, coordinated 180 degs etc. which I now would flip at if I saw kids doing it down my street. Although I had two grandmothers both hit by drunk drivers (one killed) I had to learn my own way that bikes and beer do not mix (I never had any incidents, but learnign takes time).

So enjoy your mountain bike. Unlike motorbikes a stoppie is very likely to pitch you over the top, but you should have some fun.

When you get back on the road again show us you've changed and show you skills and speed off at events and track days.

Old man post over.
My mountain biking experience is pretty good so far... I've done a total of about 30km's so far in the 3 days I've had it, so that's like... 10km a day, so by the end of this I should be pretty damn fit.

As soon as I'm allowed back on a motorised version of two wheel transport, I plan to follow the rules of the road a lot more closely than I used to... I'm not gonna say I'm never gonna speed, cause I know it will come back on me if/when I do. I do however plan to be a better "Citizen of the Road"

And nowhere near as painful on either the body, the wallet or the drivers license... :woohoo:
Definitely have to agree with that one...

[Maha]

I do however plan to be a better "Citizen of the Road"



And that is all that can be asked Rob....it sounds sincere enough and i beleive you...:cool:

[Boob Johnson]

My mountain biking experience is pretty good so far... I've done a total of about 30km's so far in the 3 days I've had it, so that's like... 10km a day, so by the end of this I should be pretty damn fit.

As soon as I'm allowed back on a motorised version of two wheel transport, I plan to follow the rules of the road a lot more closely than I used to... I'm not gonna say I'm never gonna speed, cause I know it will come back on me if/when I do. I do however plan to be a better "Citizen of the Road"Good on ya Zero, bloody good attitude. It's all about exactly that.............having the right attitude.

When you turn ya life into lemons, make lemonade!!! There is a silver lining to every cloud.


There will be very few people here that don't speed mate, they just pick n choose their times n places well. This will come with experience, it's obviously not an exact science but you are starting to get the picture now it seems :niceone:

[ZeroIndex]

Good on ya Zero, bloody good attitude. It's all about exactly that.............having the right attitude.

When you turn ya life into lemons, make lemonade!!! There is a silver lining to every cloud.


There will be very few people here that don't speed mate, they just pick n choose their times n places well. This will come with experience, it's obviously not an exact science but you are starting to get the picture now it seems :niceone:
I was thinking more along the lines of getting some salt and tequila to go with the lemons :killingme , but hey... that works too :yes:

[Boob Johnson]

I was thinking more along the lines of getting some salt and tequila to go with the lemons :killingme , but hey... that works too :yes:lol good call :Punk:

[ajturbo]

I do honestly think there is hope for you Zero.


na... lets just shoot him now...:jerry::jerry::spanking:

[ZeroIndex]

na... lets just shoot him now...:jerry::jerry::spanking:
Let he who is without ammunition shoot the first bullet :confused: <_<

[inlinefour]

Well, Court finally happened on Monday for the incident: "ZeroIndex Bins (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=53902)"

I think I got off pretty damn lightly, and when I get my license back, to be a lot more careful, and I really hope I can continually learn my lesson.

So, what did I do wrong (according to the police report)? I ran a red light at 3am on a fairly deserted road, turned up another road, at which the cops got behind me, put on their red and blue flashy lights, which I didn't notice due to no mirrors, although they said I looked back and then raced off, which I have no idea why I did that, but that aside, did approx 100km/h in a 50km/h area, cut a corner, narrowly missing a car, then on the next corner, high-sided off my bike.

I remember leaving my friends house just before 3am, then I woke up in hospital, and after visiting my doctor the other day, it turns out I suffered quite a severe concussion.

So, motto of the story, always wear a helmet, don't run red lights, and don't be an idiot. For now I have learnt my lesson, and I'm hoping that it stays that way.

For my troubles (talking about being let off lightly), they disqualified my license for 6 months (which I expected), gave me 60 hours of community work (since I don't have a job and can't afford to pay a fine), and to top it off, which worked out pretty well (due to me not being able to afford a fine), they confiscated my bike (I just dropped it off at Turners Auctions, Hamilton).

Their reason for confiscating my bike is very reasonable, cause my charges were "Not stopping for a vehicle displaying red and blue flashing lights" and "Dangerous Driving", and the "not stopping" only carries a cash value fine (up to $4500), which they pretty-much dropped and just confiscated my bike (which I would've been happy to sell for $500).

Thanks to the people on my "ZeroIndex Bins" thread that didn't personally attack me. I now know what I did, and know that it was wrong, and hopefully anyone reading this doesn't make the same mistake.

Final pictures of my bike before delivering it to Turners Auctions for confiscation to follow.

-ZeroIndex

Ps. I've got a spare shorty muffler now :innocent:

Sounds like a relatively hard pill to swallow bro. Although it could have ended up alot worse, its good to hear that your OK. Great news that you have learnt from the experience and hope to avoid making the same mistakes in the future. Maybe you should hang around skidMark as a bit of your attitude could be a good influence on him, that and you can tell him what to expect as he is about to go through the same thing. Respect for handing your bike over, that would not have been an easy thing to do. I'm sure you will be back riding soon enough and a better biker for what you have learnt. :doh:

[ZeroIndex]

Sounds like a relatively hard pill to swallow bro. Although it could have ended up alot worse, its good to hear that your OK. Great news that you have learnt from the experience and hope to avoid making the same mistakes in the future. Maybe you should hang around skidMark as a bit of your attitude could be a good influence on him, that and you can tell him what to expect as he is about to go through the same thing. Respect for handing your bike over, that would not have been an easy thing to do. I'm sure you will be back riding soon enough and a better biker for what you have learnt. :doh:
Thank God for pushbikes and computers... without those I'd have gone insane by now... I'm not gonna pushbike all the way up to Auckland to try rub some Attitude-Adjuster(TM) on skidMark, and I doubt he'll take a bus either...

Handing over the bike was easy... pushing it there (2km, so not so bad) was the hard part (except for the only hill between me and Turners Auctions, which I coasted down half of it in a high-chair position :dodge:), once I finished pushing it there, put it on the sidestand, walked inside the reception threw the keys on the counter handed over the paper, then asked "anything I need to sign", which was quickly followed by the receptionists: "no"... I then walked out, and walked home.

[oldrider]

You will be OK, just going to take a bit to catch up again.

Most of us have been there done that while we were young.

One of my favourite signatures is:

"Learn from the mistakes of others, we haven't got time to make them all ourselves"!

Well here's to you learning the easy way from now on. :yes: Cheers John.

[Sidewinder]

take it easy on that bike wouldnt wana cu bin again!!!