Confused Harley riders????

[Tony & Carolyn]

Now don't get me wrong, what ever style of riding or bike you choose good on you...... It beats sitting in any cage!!!

Went for a ride over the Rimutakas today 2 up with my partner, now we weren't in a hurry so sat just above the posted speed limit over the Kaitoke hill. On the straights before country garden's cafe we were over taken by about 6 Harley's , one was 2 up with a child on back.

I'm no prude when it come's to following the posted speed limit's but these guy's were moving....... licence gone job if caught ( there was a highway patrol car parked there on the way home)

As I chose to let them go they had a decent start on us heading up the taka's, we next saw them at the end of second overtaking lane where they were struggling to keep their bikes under control and on the correct side of the road, and yes one of these was with child on back. We soon got past the first two and caught another, this one with big apehanger bars, this guy looked like he was trying to get his knee down!!!!! The bike was skipping across the bumps an looked fucken dangerous to all road users just like the previous two.......

So I guess my question is what's up with people buying cruisers then trying to ride them like sports bike's??? Your no better than those that buy SUV'S and drive them like a sports car......

PS. If the hill ever get's restricted to 80kph dickheads like this will be to blame.

[Clivoris]

I'm from a circus family mate. Clowns don't suprise me anymore. Glad they didn't take anyone out.

[oldguy]

if they want to ride Harley, like a sport bike, why don't they just buy Buell

[JimO]

because buells arnt bad enough.

[Big Dave]

Won't SOMEBODY think of the Children!!!!!

[Paul in NZ]

Won't SOMEBODY think of the Children!!!!!


Trust me - there are plenty of pedophiles out there doing that for you Dave...

[Drew]

Perhaps they were all on borrowed bikes, doin what I would in that situation...trying to embaras some sports bike riders, the kid on the back bit I have no argument for, and the goin onto the wrong side of the road is not my kinda thing.

So bassically, they were dick heads.

Ps... I'm kidding, I wouldn't even take a hog or cruiser over the rimutakas, opens the dorr for somebody to brag that they beat me over there, and we all know that's just not the done thing.

[PuppetMaster]

So, tell me the difference between these guys and a group of Jappas flying over the Taka's ?

(Last week on the motorway I got passed by a guy on a jappa, in the emergency lane, fast, luckily I checked my mirror immediately, cause some other clown passed me on my right, if Id moved to the right just a couple of feet he would have hit me, never had a Harley rider do that before)

[Skyryder]

So, tell me the difference between these guys and a group of Jappas flying over the Taka's ?

(Last week on the motorway I got passed by a guy on a jappa, in the emergency lane, fast, luckily I checked my mirror immediately, cause some other clown passed me on my right, if Id moved to the right just a couple of feet he would have hit me, never had a Harley rider do that before)



Fuckwits are fuckwits...............no matter what they ride.


Skyrydere

[RantyDave]

So, tell me the difference between these guys and a group of Jappas flying over the Taka's ?
The Jappas are designed from the ground up to be thrashed over the Takas. Everything including the way the suspension and steering geometry is set up, the way you have to put weight on your wrists, the brakes, and the sad truth that 95% of the riders you see on a Saturday (myself included) are never going to get near to what it's actually capable of.

A Harley is basically designed to go "BAAAAAPPPP!" and look cool. With a few exceptions handling was not really considered as part of the design spec and hence getting towards the edge of what it can do, and past that edge, is a lot simpler, messier and expensive. One needs to chill and concentrate on looking cool.

Dave

[Crasherfromwayback]

While I'm thinking they're cockheads for endangering a child...and other road users...I'm all for wringing any bikes neck!

[SlashWylde]

The Jappas are designed from the ground up to be thrashed over the Takas.

A Harley is basically designed to go "BAAAAAPPPP!" and look cool. With a few exceptions handling was not really considered as part of the design spec.
Dave

True. Having said that, I can have a lot of fun thrashing my cruiser and pushing it to its limits around the countryside of east Auckland and the Hunuas, whilst still staying (by and large) within the speed limits. I can also lay back and cruise if I want to.

No excuse for blatantly dangerous riding like the group you describe, nowever.

[Kflasher]

Won't SOMEBODY think of the Children!!!!!

I was waiting for that comment...

[MyGSXF]

So what have you done.. or are doing about it???? :scratch:

Did you get their rego plate numbers?? Go to the cops & fill in a report for dangerous riding & let the cops DEAL to them!!!!! :Punk:

No point griping about speed limits getting lowered coz of dickheads like this.. (& yes, I agree that they are!!!!) unless YOU DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!! :mega:

rant over... :rockon:

[PuppetMaster]

So what have you done.. or are doing about it????


You want to dob your fellow bikers into the cops ?
For passing someone or for riding with a pillion ?

Best change your signature.

[MyGSXF]

You want to dob your fellow bikers into the cops ?
For passing someone or for riding with a pillion ?

Best change your signature.


DOH!!! If you READ the original post.. it said.. "but these guy's were moving....... licence gone job if caught" There is NO excuse for riding so dangerously. WITH A CHILD ON THE BACK!!!!!!!!! :angry:

so YEAH!! in THIS situation, if I saw them riding like that.. I would!! :finger: it's fuckwits riding like that.. that fuck it up for the rest of us!!! :girlfight:

[Drew]

Someone very close to me, and myself, were always wringing the neck out of what ever we were on, and he's one of the most popular cats on here.

So how about most of your own double standards?

This PC attitude is spreading way too quick, please stop posting what you think people want to hear, and rather say what you think without one eyed viewing.

We cannot condemn some, and make excuses for others, having a kid on the back makes the act reprehensable to me, other than that, I cannot comment as I didn't see it happen.

[Conquiztador]

"one was 2 up with a child on back"

Could have been a rich midget that wanted to live dangerously and paid them well for the experience...

[Big Dave]

This PC attitude is spreading way too quick, please stop posting what you think people want to hear, and rather say what you think without one eyed viewing.


Won't SOMEBODY think of the CHILDREN!!!!!

[Tony & Carolyn]

Hey stop right there!!! nowhere did I say people on sports bike's (jappas as you say) were not gulity of over riding, but to try and ride fast on a bike not designed for the job let alone two up is a shocker!!!!

Hey I'm all for ringing the neck out of your bike, but buy the right tool for the job!!! And find you and your bike's limits when riding alone...... There are no excuses for taking unecessary risks with a pillion on board, as you have their life at your finger tip's.

[peasea]

Hey stop right there!!! nowhere did I say people on sports bike's (jappas as you say) were not gulity of over riding, but to try and ride fast on a bike not designed for the job let alone two up is a shocker!!!!

Hey I'm all for ringing the neck out of your bike, but buy the right tool for the job!!! And find you and your bike's limits when riding alone...... There are no excuses for taking unecessary risks with a pillion on board, as you have their life at your finger tip's.


I agree in principle with your posts (and I carry my own kids on my bike) BUT.....

On numerous occasions my other half has commented after a ride that I (when solo) might have 'cut it a bit fine, taken that one too fast, blah blah' but from my position it's all been above board. My point is this; from the rider's perspective all may have looked fine, those riders might ride fast all the time and their perception might have determined that what they were doing was within their abilities and that of their machine.

I'm constantly being overtaken by big-bore sports bike riders (the bike has the big bore, I'm not labelling the riders) and some of those individuals are fair fucking honking, sometimes two-up. I don't feel the need to travel that fast any more but again, if that rider is up to it on a machine with similar credentials then I'm happy to keep left.

If that WAS a child on the back (and not a rich midget looking for jollies) then maybe that rider is, in fact, a danger to that child but the danger is lessened if that rider has a handling package fitted to his HD, is experienced, knows his bike well and the kid is used to fast rides.

I get your point tho.

[Tony & Carolyn]

Yes agreed that a rider and their machine get used to each other and when you introduce a pillion into the equation it takes a concentrated effort to adjust your riding style. These guy's were riding their bike's at ten tenths!!! When your bike is skipping through the corners because the suspension is maxed out and this causes you to cross the centre line on a blind corner I would imagine that it would have your attention and make you slow down!!!! not these guys.....

[desmo dave]

Now don't get me wrong, what ever style of riding or bike you choose good on you...... It beats sitting in any cage!!!

Went for a ride over the Rimutakas today 2 up with my partner, now we weren't in a hurry so sat just above the posted speed limit over the Kaitoke hill. On the straights before country garden's cafe we were over taken by about 6 Harley's , one was 2 up with a child on back.

I'm no prude when it come's to following the posted speed limit's but these guy's were moving....... licence gone job if caught ( there was a highway patrol car parked there on the way home)

As I chose to let them go they had a decent start on us heading up the taka's, we next saw them at the end of second overtaking lane where they were struggling to keep their bikes under control and on the correct side of the road, and yes one of these was with child on back. We soon got past the first two and caught another, this one with big apehanger bars, this guy looked like he was trying to get his knee down!!!!! The bike was skipping across the bumps an looked fucken dangerous to all road users just like the previous two.......

So I guess my question is what's up with people buying cruisers then trying to ride them like sports bike's??? Your no better than those that buy SUV'S and drive them like a sports car......

PS. If the hill ever get's restricted to 80kph dickheads like this will be to blame.Sounds very sporting of you.Why did you bother catching them up?.Isn't it common when riding in a group to grow bigger balls.How did you find out that the pillion was a child

[Guitana]

DOH!!! If you READ the original post.. it said.. "but these guy's were moving....... licence gone job if caught" There is NO excuse for riding so dangerously. WITH A CHILD ON THE BACK!!!!!!!!! :angry:

so YEAH!! in THIS situation, if I saw them riding like that.. I would!! :finger: it's fuckwits riding like that.. that fuck it up for the rest of us!!! :girlfight:

So what you're trying to say is that riding a motorcycle at speed is a no-no?
Well I would've thought most motorcyclists on KB have broken the law more than once!!! What say you KBers???
Well I'm so glad you posted this message because I was speeding last week and I feel so ashamed I'm going down to the police station to hand myself in!!!
Anybody want to buy a mint condition 99 GSXR1100 I feel it would be a waste if i had to stick to the speed limit every time I rode it over the Takas!
At the end of the day it's their responsibility if they crash and if the kid gets hurt well what are the parents doing letting him ride on the back of a dangerous riders bike?:Punk: Go hard or go home!

[Guitana]

Sounds very sporting of you.Why did you bother catching them up?.Isn't it common when riding in a group to grow bigger balls.How did you find out that the pillion was a child

Must've been speeding to catch them up and tailgating to see that the pillion was indeed a child and not a headbanging midget!!!

[peasea]

At the end of the day it's their responsibility if they crash and if the kid gets hurt well what are the parents doing letting him ride on the back of a dangerous riders bike?


Quite, but what if the parent is the biker?

As I said; I (and my other half) carry our teenage daughters on the bikes and I must say, I'm proud of the way my lady looks after offspring that aren't hers. I don't think I've gone over 120-130 with my daughter on the back and that was in ideal circumstances, momentarily.

Some people don't give a flying fig about their kids.

Some do.

[MyGSXF]

So what you're trying to say is that riding a motorcycle at speed is a no-no?

At the end of the day it's their responsibility if they crash and if the kid gets hurt well what are the parents doing letting him ride on the back of a dangerous riders bike?:Punk: Go hard or go home!

I have typed, then removed my original reply to your post.. all I will say in reply is.. Get a life dickhead!! :yawn:

[peasea]

I have typed, then removed my original reply to your post.. all I will say in reply is.. Get a life dickhead!! :yawn:

I imagine the original would have sufficed.

[merv]

Yep the law of motorcycling (or is that the jungle?) is that whatever you ride you get the most fun making it go as fast as it can (wringing its neck as others have said). So whether its an old girder forked pommy bike, an A100 (eh Hels!), a trail bike, a cruiser or a sports bike, there is nothing like that feeling of pushing it to the edge of adhesion etc etc. So it doesn't matter what bike you have as its not about the right tool for the job its about doing the job on the tool you have.

I chuckle a bit when I see people writing about what they think is dangerous in others, yet those other people probably felt totally in control at the time so is it so wrong compared to what most people on here would do. Yeah so how come it only looks dangerous when the other guy does it?

A typical example for me is times, particularly in the past (when I was younger and faster eh!), when people would say to me "geez you're riding a dirt bike on the road with knobbly tyres, isn't that dangerous?" and once in my Uni days I even fronted up at Ruapuna on the old XL and back then they let me race on knobblies (too lazy to change them). Now that was other peoples perception, but I always felt quite safe on them and never crashed on seal because it always had more grip than dirt anyway, but to onlookers not used to them it looked dangerous sliding like that. Nowadays everyone loves seeing the Motards looking loose. Is it that dangerous? Probably not compared to a fast road bike, I doubt it, as when they crash the speeds are higher and the chance of highsides is greater.

So I don't mind cruiser boys pushing it a bit provided they know what they are doing.

Now if they'd crashed, then sure they are dangerous dickheads.

[Tony & Carolyn]

Sounds very sporting of you.Why did you bother catching them up?.Isn't it common when riding in a group to grow bigger balls.How did you find out that the pillion was a child

Catch them up I did, riding my bike as I always do as it was designed for and to the conditions on the day with my partner. Hence my statement "get the right tool for the job".

Riding outside your comfort zone or growing bigger ball's as you say while riding with mates you know and trust does happen often ( and yes I'm guilty of this) but putting other road users or pillions at risk for your cheap thrills kinda suck's!!!

[desmo dave]

it's all real.And the worlds full of hypocrite's.

[MyGSXF]

I imagine the original would have sufficed.

:shutup: yeah, I even consulted my dictionary.. just to make sure I had spelt all those biiiig words I used, correctly.. :shutup:

[peasea]

it's all real.And the worlds full of hypocrite's.

No, you're wrong. Only half the world is full of hypocrites, the other half are liars. (Probably coppers....dunno, will let you know after Oct 19...)

[Virago]

it's all real.And the worlds full of hypocrite's.

...Most of whom know how to use an apostrophe...

[desmo dave]

No, you're wrong. Only half the world is full of hypocrites, the other half are liars. (Probably coppers....dunno, will let you know after Oct 19...) I was wrong.But i can live with it.

[peasea]

...Most of whom know how to use an apostrophe...


Kinda like an apostrophe catastrophe brought on by literary atrophy.:whocares:

or even apathy.....

[oldrider]

Now don't get me wrong, what ever style of riding or bike you choose good on you...... It beats sitting in any cage!!!

Went for a ride over the Rimutakas today 2 up with my partner, now we weren't in a hurry so sat just above the posted speed limit over the Kaitoke hill. On the straights before country garden's cafe we were over taken by about 6 Harley's , one was 2 up with a child on back.

I'm no prude when it come's to following the posted speed limit's but these guy's were moving....... licence gone job if caught ( there was a highway patrol car parked there on the way home)

As I chose to let them go they had a decent start on us heading up the taka's, we next saw them at the end of second overtaking lane where they were struggling to keep their bikes under control and on the correct side of the road, and yes one of these was with child on back. We soon got past the first two and caught another, this one with big apehanger bars, this guy looked like he was trying to get his knee down!!!!! The bike was skipping across the bumps an looked fucken dangerous to all road users just like the previous two.......

So I guess my question is what's up with people buying cruisers then trying to ride them like sports bike's??? Your no better than those that buy SUV'S and drive them like a sports car......

PS. If the hill ever get's restricted to 80kph dickheads like this will be to blame.

Would that God the gift to give us
To see ourselves as others see us! (Robbie Burns)

All motorcyclists champion "freedom of choice"!

Maybe they were just exercising their champions.

Isn't that what you were doing too? (quote: we soon got past the first two and caught another) :yes: Cheers John.

[jafar]

Now don't get me wrong, what ever style of riding or bike you choose good on you...... It beats sitting in any cage!!!

Went for a ride over the Rimutakas today 2 up with my partner, now we weren't in a hurry so sat just above the posted speed limit over the Kaitoke hill. On the straights before country garden's cafe we were over taken by about 6 Harley's , one was 2 up with a child on back.

I'm no prude when it come's to following the posted speed limit's but these guy's were moving....... licence gone job if caught ( there was a highway patrol car parked there on the way home)

As I chose to let them go they had a decent start on us heading up the taka's, we next saw them at the end of second overtaking lane where they were struggling to keep their bikes under control and on the correct side of the road, and yes one of these was with child on back. We soon got past the first two and caught another, this one with big apehanger bars, this guy looked like he was trying to get his knee down!!!!! The bike was skipping across the bumps an looked fucken dangerous to all road users just like the previous two.......

So I guess my question is what's up with people buying cruisers then trying to ride them like sports bike's??? Your no better than those that buy SUV'S and drive them like a sports car......

PS. If the hill ever get's restricted to 80kph dickheads like this will be to blame.

Didn't catch the front 3 cruisers huh :doh:

[Headbanger]

The funny thing, For me at least, Is I see quite a few retarded acts done on sport/Jap bikes every week, but have never felt the need to make a thread about the mental state of Jap bike riders.

Perhaps I'm just a little strange.

[scumdog]

The funny thing, For me at least, Is I see quite a few retarded acts done on sport/Jap bikes every week, but have never felt the need to make a thread about the mental state of Jap bike riders.

Perhaps I'm just a little strange.


You missed the point: they were HARLEY riders, they're not ALLOWED to ride like that, they are meant to stick to straight roads with minor deviations for variety......

[Holy Roller]

You missed the point: they were HARLEY riders, they're not ALLOWED to ride like that, they are meant to stick to straight roads with minor deviations for variety......

Speaking from experience I presume:2thumbsup:dodge:

[scumdog]

Speaking from experience I presume:2thumbsup:dodge:


No, I learned it from reading lots of posts on KB to that effect..:msn-wink::whistle:

[NotaGoth]

Catch them up I did, riding my bike as I always do as it was designed for and to the conditions on the day with my partner. Hence my statement "get the right tool for the job".


The right tool for the job?? Obviously they did have the right tool for the job.. Or is it that they.. Ahem.. "knew how to use it"

[Guitana]

I have typed, then removed my original reply to your post.. all I will say in reply is.. Get a life dickhead!! :yawn:

So that's what internet bullying feels like!!! I'm going to cry in my weetbix now!!:crybaby:

[Skyryder]

The funny thing, For me at least, Is I see quite a few retarded acts done on sport/Jap bikes every week, but have never felt the need to make a thread about the mental state of Jap bike riders.

Perhaps I'm just a little strange.


Seems to me it's not about the bike but the fact that there was a child pillion and the rider was going to fast for the safety of the child. Just don't miss the corner like you have missed the point with this thread.

Skyryder

[Headbanger]

Ah, I see, Thats why the thread title is confused Harley riders.

Because its not about Harley riders hitting a corner too hot.

Oh wait.

Damn, I'm all mixed up again.

I take it if they were on sports bikes then they would be less confused because...uh...sports bikes go wide on corners?

Dang, That can't be right either.

I'm just going to have to go with Scumdogs earlier insight.

[Shadows]

I see stupid shit almost every time I go for a ride. 99.9% of the time the rider is on a Jap bike. But I don't waste my time posting about it on the interdweeb.

Shit. I just did. Now look what you've done.

[Deano]

So, tell me the difference between these guys and a group of Jappas flying over the Taka's ?


I resemble that comment !!

[Paul in NZ]

This thread should quietly crawl away and expire....

Shock horror - bad HD riders endanger child... Yup! Thats a bugger all right but every time I've been over the hill I've seen worse from all sorts - cars to sports bikes and while they may not have a child on board the other person they hit when loosing control might!

We are all guilty of acts of stupidity - if it were punishable we'd all be locked up - let it go....