There is a God

[Grub]

One of the Bay of Plenty's most notorious criminals has died after overdosing on methamphetamine in Waikeria Prison.

The Sunday Star-Times has learned that Epi Ronaki, considered the main supplier of P for the western Bay of Plenty before his arrest last year, swallowed a bag of methamphetamine that had been thrown over the prison's wall.

Police sources say it appears the bag burst in his stomach. Staff found Ronaki, who was on remand awaiting trial on serious drugs and firearms charges, unconscious in his cell around lunchtime on Monday.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4178708a11.html

[scumdog]

Mwahahaha!!
You've made my day.:woohoo:

Now if we could get that sort of justice to happen say 10 times a week throughout the country for six months or so..........

[Grub]

Mwahahaha!!
You've made my day

Yep, it made mine. What divine punishement, fits the crime perfectly ... LOL

[yungatart]

Oh, how very sad!

[deanohit]

Mwahahaha!!
You've made my day.:woohoo:

Now if we could get that sort of justice to happen say 10 times a week throughout the country for six months or so..........

What Scumdog said.:Punk:

[Hitcher]

There were High Fives in the boudoir when Mrs H shared that item of good cheer with me. One down, 39,471 to go.

[Grub]

Now if we could get that sort of justice to happen say 10 times a week throughout the country for six months or so..........

I propose ....

PART 1: That instead of TCSMR this Sunday that KB has a working bee packing bags of meth for throwing over prison walls. If enough of us turn out, we should be able to pack a few hundred. Ladies, a plate please.

PART 2: Sunday week we have a nation-wide KB ride to all of the prisons. These are nice country locations of peace and tranquility where the prisoners are not in a stressed and noisy environment. So they are great Sunday ride destinations. When we get there, we do a little bag-tossing, go for a latte close by and then have a nice ride home.

[007XX]

Virtual high fives all around...:Punk:

[Hitcher]

I propose...

While I'm always keen for a ride, if we could guarantee that all meth users and manufacturers would fatally overdose, why not instead just put them in a room with more meth and sundry accoutrements than they could shake a stick at and let nature take its course? I'd pay for that.

[Skyryder]

I'm going to blame the prison food. Well somebody's got to blame someone other than the crim. I'ts not his fault that the prison food is so bad that you have to be stoned to eat it. Ahhhh that's better. Nothing like a good slash.:yes:


Skyryder

[canarlee]

Oh, how very sad!

i have to agree here!

yes, these people are scum BUT wishing another human being death? almost as bad some might say.........

[ManDownUnder]

I'm torn on this one...

On one hand I firmly believe it's not right to get pleasure from the misfortune of another... but the irony and self inflicted nature of this make me wonder if I might break my own rules... just this once...

[MrMelon]

Doesn't sounds like the work of any particular god, more of inevitability.

[Swoop]

What a tragic loss to the community.

The PC brigade will be overcome with grief, allowing this "troubled" individual to suffer whilst in the hands of the government.

I feel a claim of loss, grief and financial hardship due to the death of the family bread-winner.
Heilen, get your cheque book out.

[Grub]

The PC brigade will be overcome with grief, allowing this "troubled" individual to suffer whilst in the hands of the government.

I never thought of that ... but of course! It's the Gummint's fault that they didn't specify high enough wire around their prisons. This has caused this poor individual to receive Dangerous Goods which the dept of justice has failed to protect him from.

[imdying]

This is why every good policeman should smack each druggy in the guts a few times with his side handled baton before locking them up in the cells. With a bit of luck, they'll wipe a few more out that otherwise would've made it.

[canarlee]

so let me get this straight, its ok to applaud the death of this man coz he was a druggie? cool.


so when all the ANTI MOTORCYCLE groups say "oh well never mind its only a motorcylist dead, thats another one off the road so thats good" when one of us gets killed in an accident you are going to be happy about that are you?


fucking hypocrites!

[Grahameeboy]

so let me get this straight, its ok to applaud the death of this man coz he was a druggie? cool.


so when all the ANTI MOTORCYCLE groups say "oh well never mind its only a motorcylist dead, thats another one off the road so thats good" when one of us gets killed in an accident you are going to be happy about that are you?


fucking hypocrites!

Cannot argue with you on that one matey. I am sure many a KBer will try but you are dead right.

I don't think we should applaud anyway. Sad that a member of our own race has reached that level in life and paid for it. Still their fault but still sad.

The Human race is in many cases a sad bunch.

[Nasty]

so let me get this straight, its ok to applaud the death of this man coz he was a druggie? ....
Fucking hypocrites!

Nope lets applaud this man who has supplied drugs to other people who were not necessarily addicted and affected badly the lives of many others is now no longer able to do so.

I am not a hypocrite ... for not being unhappy that this guy, in effect, took his own life. Only problem I have is that he probably didn't suffer like many of his victims.

[canarlee]

and so the altered quotes come rolling in pmslmfao

[Hitcher]

fucking hypocrites!

There is a bit of a difference between somebody (such as a motorcyclist) engaged in legal activities whose life meets an untimely end, compared with some societaly pariah (such as a P user or manufacturer) engaged in illegal activities from which they cannot be easily rehabilitated, and who is usually beyond hope, who croaks whilst engaging in the said illegal practice.

While I take your point that nobody deserves to die, there are unfortunately some who walk amongst us who have a diminished right to live. While I am vehemently opposed to state-sanctioned murder, if losers choose to die by their own hand, then far be it from me to stand in their way.

[Grahameeboy]

Nope lets applaud this man who has supplied drugs to other people who were not necessarily addicted and affected badly the lives of many others is now no longer able to do so.

I am not a hypocrite ... for not being unhappy that this guy, in effect, took his own life. Only problem I have is that he probably didn't suffer like many of his victims.

I am not condoning drugs but we all have a choice in life, in this case, to become addicted to drugs so they are not his victims. They chose 'self interest' and they keep pushers in a job.

What about Govt tax on cigarettes....nicotene is one of the most addictive drugs around....7 drops of pure nicotene would kill a horse.

Lee was just making an illustrative point for comparison.

[Nasty]

and so the altered quotes come rolling in pmslmfao

Altered in the mildest of manners .. e.g. shortened cos people get bored reading he same thing over and over .. and thats the essence I responded to. Bored now ....

[Hitcher]

7 drops of pure nicotene would kill a horse.

And 24.16% of such claims are pure fiction.

[imdying]

so let me get this straight, its ok to applaud the death of this man coz he was a druggie?Ha! I was told that you're an idiot who can't comprehend simple concepts... you sure showed them!!!

[canarlee]

and the red rep comes rolling in too.



i havent laughed so much in ages!

so next time a biker dies in an accident we shall cheer, high 5, and generally be happy? coz no-one has come up with an argument against why i shouldnt. if you are all doing the above about this person for whom the thread was about here then i will do the above on the next "tragic loss, biker dies, etc" thread that appears.

not so funny when you look at it that way is it? its a person that had family and friends that might be reading this thread, one of your friends dies and it gets posted on here i should write shit and make crass jokes about them to see if you feel the same way as you do at the moment!

[imdying]

so next time a biker dies in an accident we shall cheer, high 5, and generally be happy? coz no-one has come up with an argument against why i shouldnt.No, they're just ignoring you cause they think that you're a twat :rofl:

[Albino]

so next time a biker dies in an accident we shall cheer, high 5, and generally be happy? coz no-one has come up with an argument against why i shouldnt. if you are all doing the above about this person for whom the thread was about here then i will do the above on the next "tragic loss, biker dies, etc" thread that appears.

not so funny when you look at it that way is it? its a person that had family and friends that might be reading this thread, one of your friends dies and it gets posted on here i should write shit and make crass jokes about them to see if you feel the same way as you do at the moment!

If the biker's riding had caused many deaths and wrecked many families over the years then yes I'd cheer.

I'd also have sympathy if this guy only dealt drugs other than meth.

[Grahameeboy]

No, they're just ignoring you cause they think that you're a twat :rofl:

So you had better add me to the list of Twats cause I see Lee's point and I am suppose to be one who has humanity.

And if that is the best comeback you.......tends to add weight to Lee's response.

[canarlee]

Ha! I was told that you're an idiot who can't comprehend simple concepts... you sure showed them!!!


No, they're just ignoring you cause they think that you're a twat :rofl:

and the abuse is now on the thread too.........bwahahahahahaha

and im hardly being ignored going by the rep points im getting! fark this thread is funny!

[canarlee]

If the biker's riding had caused many deaths and wrecked many families over the years then yes I'd cheer.

I'd also have sympathy if this guy dealt any drugs other than meth.

so you would be ok if they were dealing heroin?

[Hitcher]

Strike one. I know it's Monday, but please try and have a debate without resorting to personal attacks.

[Grahameeboy]

And 24.16% of such claims are pure fiction.

and 75.84% believe the truth......

[Joni]

Strike one. I know it's Monday, but please try and have a debate without resorting to personal attacks.Yup, completely agree Hitch, this thread is moving down a path that is not needed.

[canarlee]

Strike one. I know it's Monday, but please try and have a debate without resorting to personal attacks.

hitcher dont be a spoil sport, i think its hilarious. im laughing at the small mindedness of most of the people on here!




fark this thread is should be awarded comedy thread of the year!

[canarlee]

Yup, completely agree Hitch, this thread is moving down a path that is not needed.

nooooooooo let it run!



see my above post.

[Grub]

So next time a biker dies in an accident we shall cheer, high 5, and generally be happy? coz no-one has come up with an argument against why i shouldnt.

If that biker had been rebuilding write-off bikes with dodgy welds that broke at high speed killing the riders ... if that biker had been pulling wheelies and stoppies on the motorways and killed a family of 4 ... if that biker was stopped and was carrying a 9mm automatic handgun in a holster which he pulled on police (as this guy did) ... none of those things are as bad as what this guy has done but they would NOT get much sympathy here.

Your comparisions are not even related or make sense. This was a bad ass guy ruining people's lives, intimidating them, using stand-over tactics, beating people up, possibly shooting them and doing it all for money. Take the time to read the reports about him ... and THEN judge. Have you no compassion for his victims and the terror and misery he has caused? How is it possible to degrade that suffering by feeling sorry for such a bad bad person.

To compare him to your average biker killed on the road is just winding up and argument for the sake of it.

Oh, and by the way, your PC is showing.

[canarlee]

A: i never judge people, never have done. not my job to do so.


B: me PC? now i know its a true wind-up thread.


C: i was not comparing this person to anyone on here, see point A.

[MD]

so let me get this straight, its ok to applaud the death of this man coz he was a druggie? cool.


so when all the ANTI MOTORCYCLE groups say "oh well never mind its only a motorcylist dead, thats another one off the road so thats good" when one of us gets killed in an accident you are going to be happy about that are you?


fucking hypocrites!

I don't think that is a fair comparison. Motorcyclists don't go out for a ride hoping to addict someone so they can take money of them. They don't go out for a ride hoping to crash and hurt someone.
You have answered your own question with the word áccident' (don't rush and edit it out now). The motorcyclist dies in your quote because of an accident e.g oil spill, too fast into a bend.... The drug dealer/convict didn't 'accidentally' make & sell drugs - Ooops, how did that $5000 cash fall from his hands into mine, as I accidentally dropped that P into his hands, that same addictive, family destroying P that I accidentally brewed up while trying to cook pea soup for tea. Nope, there is a difference.

[Maha]

so you would be ok if they were dealing heroin?

Point missed Lee...nothing like a Mass Debate on a Monday...cheers mate, can always rely on you to get things going....:yes:

Questions i have asked and answered myself
Why did he die?.... cos he wasn't a smart as he thought he was!
How did he die?... rather quickley i would imagine
Did he need to die?... possibly not, but he did
Will he be missed?... by a select few... naturally
Is it up to us to decide the way he died is just?..... yeah i think so, we tax payers were after all... keeping him feed/housed etc etc

[onearmedbandit]

Well said MD, but I don't think Mr Canarlee will still understand.

[Albino]

so you would be ok if they were dealing heroin?

If NZ had a problem with dealers pushing heroin to get people hooked, or if a significant amount of crime in NZ was due caused by people on heroin then I might. Same with crack cocaine. But we don't and probably never will so it's not an issue in my book.


Your comparison is a bit weak. Here's a better one for you: Would you care if a gunman was shooting kids in a school and accidentally shot himself?

[canarlee]

nope i wont be editing my post.


what i am saying is, which all of you seem to be missing (with the exception of graham) is the fact that you are laughing and joking about someone dyeing! that is why i made the comparison. it takes a sick kind of person to laugh at someones death!
like i said, if you can laugh at someones father/brother/uncle/son/grandson dyeing then wait until it happens to someone close to you and see how you like it.

it has also opened my eyes to how narrow minded and ignorant a lot of the posters on here are. i mean, did this mans grandmother know he was selling "P"? i doubt it, so he was someones loving grandson who is being laughed at in death.


some of the forum members here have teenage grandkids/sons/daughters dont they? do you know what your lovely grandson was doing on friday night? maybe he was selling "P"? or your granddaughter was selling herself on the street corner(ok slightly different again but the principle is the same)? would you suspect it of your grandkids? i doubt it. so if it came out that is what your "perfect" grandkids/children were doing any of the above and died as a result you would still be laughing?

[canarlee]

Well said MD, but I don't think Mr Canarlee will still understand.

what i do understand is that it takes some pretty sick people to laugh, make jokes, high 5, etc about an untimely death!


thats all i am saying! sick minded people who laugh at someone dying to me means that they are not of a good and sound mentality.

[marty]

i'll echo Grub and MD. this guy wan't an innocent minding his own business.

i just hope they fingerprint the bag and lock up someone else for it.

darwin would be laughing into his earl grey. or maybe just nodding knowingly :)

[Maha]

Dont think anyone is laughing Lee...more of a Sigh really...in the shape of...ah well. I for one didnt know him...and dont care, it will happen again, thats the nature of criminals.

[Grahameeboy]

Point missed Lee...nothing like a Mass Debate on a Monday...cheers mate, can always rely on you to get things going....:yes:

Questions i have asked and answered myself
Why did he die?.... cos he wasn't a smart as he thought he was!
How did he die?... rather quickley i would imagine
Did he need to die?... possibly not, but he did
Will he be missed?... by a select few... naturally
Is it up to us to decide the way he died is just?..... yeah i think so, we tax payers were after all... keeping him feed/housed etc etc

I understood his point and I think it has just been taken too much out of context.

Most motorcylists speed and we are told 'Speed Kill's' & "if you speed be prepared to kill" so although the chances of killing someone are less than with a drug pusher, we buy bikes of dealers which can easily break the speed limit so become addicted and may or may not have an accident.

So if anti-motorcyclists applaud a biker who is killed why speeding who are we to attack them....that is all the point Lee was making.

The drug users are not the victims, they made a choice knowing the consequences.

[Grahameeboy]

i'll echo Grub and MD. this guy wan't an innocent minding his own business.

i just hope they fingerprint the bag and lock up someone else for it.

darwin would be laughing into his earl grey. or maybe just nodding knowingly :)

None of us are innocents.........

[Maha]

Most motorcylists speed and we are told 'Speed Kill's' & "if you speed be prepared to kill" so although the chances of killing someone are less than with a drug pusher, we buy bikes of dealers which can easily break the speed limit so become addicted and may or may not have an accident.


Love the way you put that Cousin 'G'.....:yes:....bling sent!

[imdying]

How does implying you've received a significant number of reps, implied by:

and im hardly being ignored going by the rep points
im getting!...when in fact I bet that it's just two (as of when I made this post), one for, one against...

thats all i am saying! sick minded people who laugh at someone dying to me means that they are not of a good and sound mentality.... make you less sound mentally than others that have posted? Sounds like a serious issue in your head space...

[canarlee]

hmmm


Dont think anyone is laughing Lee...more of a Sigh really...


no-one is laughing?

Mwahahaha!!
You've made my day.:woohoo:




Yep, it made mine. What divine punishement, fits the crime perfectly ... LOL


There were High Fives in the boudoir when Mrs H shared that item of good cheer with me. One down, 39,471 to go.


Virtual high fives all around...:Punk:


or high5ing?


if ya say so mate.

[Maha]

Should have clearer...nobody is laughing at the dead man Lee....

[canarlee]

Should have clearer...nobody is laughing at the dead man Lee....

if that is the case mark, what are they laughing at?

[Grahameeboy]

Love the way you put that Cousin 'G'.....:yes:....bling sent!

Howbe iby gaffer........when's the next shipment of moooooonnshiinnee being sent over me old 'incest' Cousin....

[tri boy]

I'd laugh, piss, and spit on his grave. He was a first class dropkick. Hell, and i never met the loser.
Glad to see the back of him. Now I'm off to run with the pack of wild nasty hypocrites that love, cuddle and champion other wild pack members that are doing there best to care for each other an protect all creatures and this planet in what ever way they can.
Rest uncomfortably you useless P pushing sack of shit.

[007XX]

or high5ing?


if ya say so mate.

I can't speak for everyone who commented along the same lines as I, but one thing is for sure on my side:

No, I am not sorry that this person overdosed, but I am not making fun of it either.

Sure, a death is nothing to be laughed at, but:

a) he overdosed, aka he took his own life via self abuse...

b) the guy was a criminal...the only reason I am not going all out on this is I don't know what he was in for in the first place...

I assure you I do not make fun of his death, but I'm not sorry either that another bad person is no longer walking the same earth than my kid is.

[McJim]

So this is where everyone is today?

Neither up nor down on this one. Avoided this thread as I thought it was part of 'The Scottish thread' from the title.

Sounds like the guy was the knowing author of his own demise.

Do I sympathise with the deceased? No - they're either gone forever or in a better place depending on their/your belief.

Do I sympathise for those left behind? Yes - no matter how big a c*nt someone is they're always someones son/daughter.

As a father it's a relief to know that there's one less criminal out there to harm my kids but at the end of the day it's likke pissing into a hurricane. There's always another 5 crims popping up.

[Maha]

Sure, a death is nothing to be laughed at, but:
I assure you I do not make fun of his death,

I Love being right Lee......:eek:

[canarlee]

I can't speak for everyone who commented along the same lines as I, but one thing is for sure on my side:

No, I am not sorry that this person overdosed, but I am not making fun of it either.

Sure, a death is nothing to be laughed at, but:

a) he overdosed, aka he took his own life via self abuse...

b) the guy was a criminal...the only reason I am not going all out on this is I don't know what he was in for in the first place...

I assure you I do not make fun of his death, but I'm not sorry either that another bad person is no longer walking the same earth than my kid is.



now that is a decent answer! no im not sad or sorry that a drug pusher is dead, like you i do not see a funny thing about death. unlike some of the above posters!


like i said before, joking/high5ing/etc about death is not on. yes have a debate over whether its a good or bad thing in those circumstances by all means. also, no-one would like it if i said "high fives all round" when their daughter/son/etc was killed would they? coz it amounts to the same thing

[canarlee]

I Love being right Lee......:eek:

mark, has mom nicked your login again? :dodge:

[007XX]

now that is a decent answer! no im not sad or sorry that a drug pusher is dead, like you i do not see a funny thing about death. unlike some of the above posters!


I guess my high five should have come with a disclaimer and an explanation...Sowy!:sunny:

[Grahameeboy]

I can't speak for everyone who commented along the same lines as I, but one thing is for sure on my side:

No, I am not sorry that this person overdosed, but I am not making fun of it either.

Sure, a death is nothing to be laughed at, but:

a) he overdosed, aka he took his own life via self abuse...

b) the guy was a criminal...the only reason I am not going all out on this is I don't know what he was in for in the first place...

I assure you I do not make fun of his death, but I'm not sorry either that another bad person is no longer walking the same earth than my kid is.


A well rounded summary, much like your...mmmmm..bum:innocent:

[007XX]

A well rounded summary, much like your...mmmmm..bum:innocent:

Why thank you very much, good Sir! :D

[MSTRS]

This thread needs... BEER
Then we could raise a toast to karma

[Usarka]

i havent laughed so much in ages!

so next time a biker dies in an accident we shall cheer, high 5, and generally be happy? coz no-one has come up with an argument against why i shouldnt. if you are all doing the above about this person for whom the thread was about here then i will do the above on the next "tragic loss, biker dies, etc" thread that appears.

not so funny when you look at it that way is it? its a person that had family and friends that might be reading this thread, one of your friends dies and it gets posted on here i should write shit and make crass jokes about them to see if you feel the same way as you do at the moment!

So is it funny or not? :scratch:

get off the crack dude. You're going to be forced to now that ya dealers arse fucked the big P bag in the sky!

[canarlee]

So is it funny or not? :scratch:

get off the crack dude. You're going to be forced to now that ya dealers arse fucked the big P bag in the sky!

ok, so i shall turn into a crackhead.


no problem.



just remember though, if anymore people like loose bruce or any other forum members (or their friends) die while riding a motorcycle i WILL make crass jokes on here, i WILL take the piss out of the fact that he died on a m/cycle and generally make sick or stupid comments.


something along the lines of "well they must have been speeding so the stupid cunt deserved to die" etc etc. that be ok with you? well that is the generalization is being made here about the person the thread is about. does anyone know the person? anyone a mother to him? or what about if it was one of your own? still be laughing would you?


i know that loose bruce was a well known person and a good friend to many, but why should that stop me? coz he is not really any different to the person who is being talked about on this thread, well known and a good friend to many (and an asshole to more maybe but thats not the point).

anyway, i think this thread has died now, personal insults were funny earlier thanks for them children!

[Usarka]

ok, so i shall turn into a crackhead.


no problem.



just remember though, if anymore people like loose bruce or any other forum members (or their friends) die while riding a motorcycle i WILL make crass jokes on here, i WILL take the piss out of the fact that he died on a m/cycle and generally make sick or stupid comments.


something along the lines of "well they must have been speeding so the stupid cunt deserved to die" etc etc. that be ok with you? well that is the generalization is being made here about the person the thread is about. does anyone know the person? anyone a mother to him? or what about if it was one of your own? still be laughing would you?


i know that loose bruce was a well known person and a good friend to many, but why should that stop me? coz he is not really any different to the person who is being talked about on this thread, well known and a good friend to many (and an asshole to more maybe but thats not the point).

anyway, i think this thread has died now, personal insults were funny earlier thanks for them children!

mate if you really aren't on the crack then you are a complete :tugger:

[speedpro]

so let me get this straight, its ok to applaud the death of this man coz he was a druggie? cool.


so when all the ANTI MOTORCYCLE groups say "oh well never mind its only a motorcylist dead, thats another one off the road so thats good" when one of us gets killed in an accident you are going to be happy about that are you?


fucking hypocrites!

I hope you are taking the piss. This person is in prison for supplying a drug that ruins lives, not just of the one consuming them, he profited from that more than likely, AND he was costing me tax dollars, and now he's dead because of something he did in an effort to supply drugs to fellow criminals, again for profit. Geez, just what do you have to do to NOT deserve to be among the living any more.

[canarlee]

mate if you really aren't on the crack then you are a complete :tugger:

i am no more a wanker than the other people on this thread that were laughing about a families dead son!

[Guitana]

i am no more a wanker than the other people on this thread that were laughing about a families dead son!

Cue the slow music and the tears!!!!!!! Boo hoo!!

[Hitcher]

This thread has got a bit silly with some folk posting some particularly unfortunate comments in order to make their points. Please do not turn this into a flame war.

[canarlee]

This thread has got a bit silly with some folk posting some particularly unfortunate comments in order to make their points. Please do not turn this into a flame war.

awwww hitcher, you are spoiling it again!



think about if it was your child being talked about like this after death people.



so to bring it round the full swing, how about giving dignity in death aye.

[canarlee]

just to clarify one thing, i am not comparing each man by personalities.


only by death.


i aknowledge he was a good friend to many on here. i was just using an example of death that you could relate to. this man was the same to other people as you are to loose bruce.


give both men the same amount of respect and dignity in death!

[pritch]

Doesn't sounds like the work of any particular god, more of inevitability.

God knows, we need more of that particular inevitability..

[Goblin]

think about if it was your child being talked about like this after death people.

so to bring it round the full swing, how about giving dignity in death aye.It's the work of losers like that dropkick P dealing fuckwit that is fucking our kids and families! He doesnt deserve any respect! He had no dignity in life so why the fuck should he have any in death?

You crossed the line bringing Bruce into this. Bruce only ever brought happiness and joy to peoples lives. How about YOU give him the dignity he deserves in death by deleting your post!

[Patrick]

just to clarify one thing, i am not comparing each man by personalities.


only by death.


i aknowledge he was a good friend to many on here. i was just using an example of death that you could relate to. this man was the same to other people as you are to loose bruce.


give both men the same amount of respect and dignity in death!

I just don't get how you compare the two... never met either, but Loose Bruce was a loss to society, a decent sort, a tax payer, a law abiding citizen (probably...?:innocent:) but he has my respect.

That other one is no loss, maybe only to his kin... he is a P head, they don't have mates, most families wash their hands of them... they stuff up families and friends alike. He is not a decent sort, he is not a tax payer, and definitely not a law abiding citizen. Give respect to him? No thanks. Wouldn't give him the steam off my turd.

Truth be known, his family are probably relieved.

The only ones who will really miss him are the ones who went to get their fix from him daily, weekly, whatever, and now have to find a new source...

Give both the same respect? One earned it, the other didn't and died of his own hand. The two are worlds, and then some, apart.

[scumdog]

I'm sad the useless pile of crap died.

After all, people like that keep me in a job!!:laugh::lol::killingme:rofl:

[scumdog]

so let me get this straight, its ok to applaud the death of this man coz he was a druggie? cool.


so when all the ANTI MOTORCYCLE groups say "oh well never mind its only a motorcylist dead, thats another one off the road so thats good" when one of us gets killed in an accident you are going to be happy about that are you?


fucking hypocrites!

Ya ain't gunna see an ANTI MOTORCYCLE group on KB for a start sunshine..:whistle:

[Boob Johnson]

what i am saying is, which all of you seem to be missing (with the exception of graham) is the fact that you are laughing and joking about someone dyeing! that is why i made the comparison. it takes a sick kind of person to laugh at someones death!
like i said, if you can laugh at someones father/brother/uncle/son/grandson dyeing then wait until it happens to someone close to you and see how you like it.While I agree the analogy made wasn't the best (motorcycle riders vs major P dealers/gang members) I do agree with what Lee is saying, he's 100% correct. While very few of us won't be attending the funeral or shedding a tear, to laugh about another's death is another level all together, were meant to be a lil more civilised than that.................aren't we?




May he who is without sin cast the first stone :innocent:





ps: I recently met Carnalee on a group ride & can honestly say he is a top bloke

[candor]

The drug users are not the victims, they made a choice knowing the consequences.

Ooooh that's the second time you called it a choice. Mounting evidence now says drug addiction including alcoholism as a consequence of use is not a choice - people are genetically predisposed by chemical imbalances in the brain.

When such people use or experiment they WILL get addicted while others definitely will not. Dealers don't make addicts - they're born mostly.

Anyway it's only the media saying he was an all round creep - haven't they ever been wrong about someone? Like had they actually met the guy? Everyone is somebodies baby. But did the inmates miss him or the P bag most?

[Usarka]

to laugh about another's death is another level all together, were meant to be a lil more civilised than that.................aren't we?

May he who is without sin cast the first stone :innocent:


http://darwinawards.com/darwin/

The vast majority of people on this planet who have read these stories have found at least one or two of them amusing.

I bet most people can't honestly say they didn't chuckle at the story of the guy who put a JATO unit on his car, or of the terrorists who blew themselves up an hour early because they set the clocks to daylight savings time. Can you?

So yes I can laugh at death.

Last night I held the hand of a close family member as she passed away. I went outside and had a laugh with my brother. hang me by the nearest tree now.

People get offended by different things. I think it's rich to come on here claiming your being offended by the death of a stranger (which we are assuming he is a stranger), and then offend every one else by using the death of members close friends to illustrate a point. It just sounds like someone who's priorities in life are winning arguments rather than practicing the respect that they're trying to preach.

[Grahameeboy]

Ooooh that's the second time you called it a choice. Mounting evidence now says drug addiction including alcoholism as a consequence of use is not a choice - people are genetically predisposed by chemical imbalances in the brain.

When such people use or experiment they WILL get addicted while others definitely will not. Dealers don't make addicts - they're born mostly.

Anyway it's only the media saying he was an all round creep - haven't they ever been wrong about someone? Like had they actually met the guy? Everyone is somebodies baby. But did the inmates miss him or the P bag most?

But don't you have to make a choice to use..........:cool:

[imdying]

i aknowledge he was a good friend to many on here. i was just using an example of death that you could relate to. this man was the same to other people as you are to loose bruce.

give both men the same amount of respect and dignity in death!Oh, so it is revealed... you're not morally on high at all, just a plain old run of the mill wanker.

Bruce earned the respect of others, and is remembered in death as a contributor to the lives of all he spent time with. The 'biggest P dealer in the BOP' (or wherever it was) earned the scorn of everyone, even his family if they've any conscience, and shall be remembered in death as a piece of crap who robbed the lives of all he dealt with. I spit on his grave, and laugh at his death. Now that you've dragged some innocent into your pathetic ramblings, I now wait for the day when I can spit on yours too.

[MSTRS]

Leigh - I am appalled that you raise such an analogy. Whilst I understood what you were saying earlier, to draw parallels like that is in the worst possible taste.
Our fallen friends dealt death only to themselves in a moment of stupidity. We've all done stupid things and got away with it. They didn't - that time.
As for that P dealer scum - he dealt death and misery to anyone he could, actively sought out more idiots to peddle his shit to, and profited from every sale he made. He, and those like him, are a cancer within our society, and like cancer, cannot be controlled. Either it is 'killed' or it kills you. Personally, I am glad he is dead, especially in the circumstances it occurred in. True justice.

[Nasty]

There is no reason to try and create analogies where there really aren't any. I don't understand why something in my life needs to be dragged down to the level of a scum drug dealer who totes guns. Motorcycles and riders don't have to automatically relate to everything that happens in the world.

Stating things like oh happy cos hes dead what about those who ride and die, to me seems pointless and silly.

Understanding that drug dealing causes extreme pain in peoples lives not only in the addicts but there families and their communities.

Riding a bike .. you can have an accident ... this causes pain, but its different ... there is an affect, but this in no way creates an analogy to the horror that this person had created before his own death.

[Goblin]

canarlee...you are "cuntitis" personified!

[Joni]

Goblin, it aint worth it girl... he did not know Bruce, he did not know how huge a man he was in character... he is using someone he has never met as a tool to make his own arguement more "valid"... its cruel on quite a few people on this site and very low.

Leave him be... hold you head up high that you had the pleasure of knowing Bruce, like I do! :yes:

[tri boy]

So who was the gutless little wanker who red repped me and didn't have the balls to leave a name?
Probably the same misguided fools that think drug dealers deserve respect in death.
How about I main line the wizz up your scrawny arm, and watch your eyes roll back when you realise 2 grams is gunna f**k you up big time!
Takes a bit to fire me up, but boy, best you don't introduce yourself to me.
And as for "grow up" .
You hav'nt even dried out from under your scrotum.
Name your religion!

[Joni]

You hav'nt even dried out from under your scrotum.
Second yellow card...

Take it easy guys! This sort of stuff is really not necessary...

People can have opinions, and even use the rep system to express them!

[tri boy]

and the abuse is now on the thread too.........bwahahahahahaha

and im hardly being ignored going by the rep points im getting! fark this thread is funny!

Dude. You have a serious emotional/security issue! I actually have a teensy bit of pity for you.:no:

[McJim]

Can we please shove a bag of P up the arse of this thread before too many vendettas are created?

I can't imagine anyone saying anything further on this subject that will serve any good to anyone.

Knees have jerked, lines have been crossed and no good will come of it.

[sunhuntin]

i am not glad that he died. i am, however, relieved. i am never glad to read of any death, no matter the cause. i feel relief at his death simply because now, there is one less person to fear, one less person to hurt someone we know and love.
i feel that same relief when i read of child abuse victims dying, simply cos they no longer have to live with the pain, and cannot grow up to put that same pain and agony onto another generation.
the most recent case, nia glassie. she would have been wheelchair bound, and likely returned to those who did it to her in the first place. her death spared her from that. this druggies death spares others.

many of us have addictive personalities... it just depends what we use to fill that. i didnt find drugs easily, so didnt get stuck in that spot. by the time i got to a place where drugs were mine for the taking, the addictive side of me was wrapped up in harleys.

his death was likely swift and over quickly. he should be thankful for that. those that deserve a swift death often dont get it.

usually a motorcyclists death is assisted by things outside of our control... a cager running a red, gravel on a blind corner, a wire strung between two trees. we go out to ride knowing the risks, but we dont go out intending or thinking we might not come back again.
this guys death was caused by things very much under his control. a bag was chucked over the wall. he chose to swallow it. it killed him. simple. he could have chosen to not swallow it, he could have chosen a different life and avoided jail altogether, but he didnt. the papers called him the most notorious crim in the bop... you dont get that title by being a nice guy.

btw... my thoughts on this are the same for major drug dealer. drugs ruin lives, plain and simple. my family was nearly torn apart by my brother. today, i have disowned him and refuse to speak. he has been banned from my workplace when i am on shift. he is no brother of mine, and i hate being associated with him. i often wished he would od and let us all move on.
im willing to bet that this guys family are feeling similar to myself... sad that hes gone, but relieved that it has ended.