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delusionz
29th August 2007, 00:47
yay or nay?
Nasty
29th August 2007, 06:19
Depends on your definition ... incapacitated
in·ca·pac·i·tate (nk-ps-tt)
tr.v. in·ca·pac·i·tat·ed, in·ca·pac·i·tat·ing, in·ca·pac·i·tates
1. To deprive of strength or ability; disable.
2. To make legally ineligible; disqualify.
I have a disability and would not like to join a group which singles me out from others.
janno
29th August 2007, 06:25
Or would it be incapacitated, as in legless, as in three sheets to the wind, as in pissed.
I can just imagine, drunken bikers all wobbling up to the pub for their weekly meeting.
Deployment of various sidestands forgotten as they come to a halt, bikes slowly toppling over, muffled curses as pints are brought out to various fallen mates - cos they are too incapacitated to get to the bar . . . :pinch: :laugh:
(Not that I am in any way, shape or form suggesting that the above has, should or could happen :Police:)
Kflasher
29th August 2007, 07:10
I ask why has this not been done already.
It could offer support and rehabilitation to whom choose to join not to mention some understanding… my 2 cents.
Toaster
29th August 2007, 07:20
I guess it is such a wide catchment of what those terms mean.... I would assume it is a physical impediment meaning they cannot ride at all or without assistance/modification?
Mind you, according to the second definition all the disqualified or suspended licence riders could turn up.
Oakie
29th August 2007, 09:19
Not unless 'they' want it.
I'm part of an organisation that works with disabled adults and part of their 'disability' is actually the general community's attitudes toward them because they are 'different'. The best thing we can do for our guys where I work is keeping them out in the general community so that they are seen as part of the community rather than a wee group somehow different to the rest of the wider community.
Regarding 'incapacitated' bikers (for whatever reason, seriousness or prognosis), to make a special club for them to belong to, while giving them something of their own, would also have the side-effect of making them different to the rest of our biking community. Eventually they may become the group that people feel sorry for and then feel uncomfortable around.
My 2 cents.
WRT
29th August 2007, 09:22
Why ask? Why not just start the club, then those that want it will join, those that don't, wont!
Hitcher
29th August 2007, 09:24
As well as defining "incapacitated", I think that "club" also needs to be defined.
Personally my preference would be a mallet, a bit like those used by polo players. I am sure that, with practice, a few deft touches would ensure that recalcitrant cage drivers and lycra-clad twats on treadlies could be persuaded to be more respectful of the needs of bikers, "incapacitated" or otherwise.
007XX
29th August 2007, 09:37
All jokking aside, as I am not being incapacitated myself, I find it difficult to comment.
I feel this question would be bestleft to those primarily concerned, but would support anything they would feel is necessary should they require such facility.
delusionz
29th August 2007, 11:19
club meaning clubs forum section or does there have to actually be a club? it's take out a biker season, alot of injuries coming up, etc
Pancakes
29th August 2007, 11:48
club meaning clubs forum section or does there have to actually be a club? it's take out a biker season, alot of injuries coming up, etc
Oh! who's next and why didn't you warn me about mine, I woulda stayed home that day! Dude, do what you like but the interweb seems to me to be a wealth of misinformation and in my case, a head injury is something I want the correct story on to make a good recovery. How are the nurses over there? hahahahahaha
edit, so I don't come off like a bastard!
The hows the nurses in a naughty way not a sucked in, your in hospital way.
kaz
29th August 2007, 13:04
Hi delusionz, how are things now that you are back at home?
It seems like people have different interpretations of what you are proposing. Maybe it would help if you told us a bit about why you are suggesting it or what you're looking for.
I imagine you might be looking to share support and information with others who are, as you are now, unable to ride because of injury (or with people have gone through something similar at some point). That could be achieved in a number of different ways (a club or a section of the forum, etc...) But maybe I am misunderstanding you too...?
delusionz
29th August 2007, 13:42
i suppose i just dont think i belong in the wannabe bikers thread since its not my fault i cant go for a ride right now
ps. pancakes i'm at home since monday i got the hell out of there real quick.. arghh hopsital food, morphine, not taking a dump.. yeah the nurses aren't too bad, not many uggs ones, but not quite as good as these mini posters of porn stars from erotica expo all signed get well mike + take me for a ride :P
cheers kaz i'm just fine, in pain but just a minor discomfort
i'm in a sling and a leg cast so mobility is none apart from limping around with a awkward crutcher on the same side as my good leg heh
i just wanna ride my bike but i cant thats what this is all about.. it suxxxxxxxx!!!!!!
inlinefour
29th August 2007, 15:10
yay or nay?
Being one who might qualify for this sort of idea, I would not at all be interested.
Why you might ask?
I had an accident which cost me the use of much of my body, including the ability to ride a two wheeled motorcycle.
Now although I cannot ride the bikes I would like to, it has not changed who I am, but merely my abilities to do things I did prior to my accident.
The thought of being segregated into a "club" does not do it for me and I would rather stay as the status quo here, with all the bikers/wannabe bikers etc.
Now I am going to ride again, however what I ride is going to be somewhat different to what I would like to.
Although the concept of a club for incapacitated riders might give others warm fuzzies or whatever, it does nothing for me. Now if there was a club for politically incorrect riders, I'd join that in a heartbeat... :devil2:
Nasty
29th August 2007, 15:26
...Now if there was a club for politically incorrect riders, I'd join that in a heartbeat... :devil2:
I thought that one was our private club darling! :cool:
Hitcher
29th August 2007, 18:22
Now if there was a club for politically incorrect riders, I'd join that in a heartbeat...
Isn't that KB's primary purpose?
Now that we've got a faster server and have returned to the e-jet age, perhaps there will be more irreverence?
peasea
29th August 2007, 18:42
Isn't that KB's primary purpose?
Now that we've got a faster server and have returned to the e-jet age, perhaps there will be more irreverence?
Yup, and we'll be quick about it too.
Erm, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. (I'm told...)
Hitcher
29th August 2007, 18:46
Erm, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. (I'm told...)
Hardly politically incorrect. And you shouldn't believe everything my Mum tells you...
inlinefour
29th August 2007, 18:51
Isn't that KB's primary purpose?
Now that we've got a faster server and have returned to the e-jet age, perhaps there will be more irreverence?
But then came the infraction age. Those of little awareness of kiwi banter would decide that things are getting out of hand, even personal. Then came the "taking thread off topic" era and the political correctness took its foothold properly. I'd like to go back to the era of piss takes and a good laugh, but there appears to allways be someone who feels the need to get upset of what is posted or read into it another way. I say, bring back the sin bin. Back then if one was an arsewipe, then one knew it and it was generally used for the right reason.
Anyhow, as far as irreverence goes Hitcher, hows that? :jerry:
dogsnbikes
29th August 2007, 18:56
my late brother would say "F__k off" as he said the biggest insult too him was being called disabled or other.........
my veiw is each too there own
incapacitated riders/people would perfer too be treat the same as able body people nothing more nothing less....just a lesson I learnt from my bro
Hitcher
29th August 2007, 19:16
Anyhow, as far as irreverence goes Hitcher, hows that?
I understand what you're saying, but most "difficulties" were caused by a few who didn't get the difference between humour, political incorrectness, general pisstaking, shit-stirring, good-natured banter and personal abuse or, even worse, bullying. Members should be able to come on here and enjoy themselves and feel able to freely participate. They shouldn't have to put up with unwarranted crap thrown at them. Moderators have drawn a line in the sand regarding acceptable behaviour and comment and we're prepared to enforce it.
We've had a few characters on here over the years, some of whom no longer choose to participate for their own reasons. We've had a few (for want of a better word) arseholes as well, who completely overstepped the mark on repeated occasions. A handful of these have been banned, others are still serving out infraction restrictions.
Kiwi Biker is not "just the internet". Most members are proud and fiercely protective of our "family" and there are plenty of instances where issues about behaviour and acceptable comment have been sorted by members without the need for Mods to intervene. That's how it should work, and it does most of the time.
Anyway, that was way too serious. Bring on the political incorrectness!
Oakie
29th August 2007, 19:30
Anyway, that was way too serious. Bring on the political incorrectness!
I'll start. Let's go and tell some boys that the idea of sport is to win, not just take part ... we'll smack their arses when they lose and then tell them not to cry because 'real men' don't show thier feelings. Then we can go and organise a KB midget throwing night. Oops ... Off Topic I go.
kaz
30th August 2007, 09:40
On my reading, this is not about an idea to treat disabled people differently from able-bodied people, "segregation", or adding to the considerable prejudice already faced by disabled people.
Couldn't it just be about finding support amongst those who experience injury and temporary or permanent disability?
That doesn't have to be achieved through a separate club. It could happen through a separate section of the forum - just as there are separate sections for all sorts of other things. And you wouldn't necessarily have to be disabled to post to it, but temporary or permanently disabled folks would take the lead on it...
Just trying to be constructive. Sorry if I've misunderstood anything.
delusionz
30th August 2007, 12:50
On my reading, this is not about an idea to treat disabled people differently from able-bodied people, "segregation", or adding to the considerable prejudice already faced by disabled people.
Couldn't it just be about finding support amongst those who experience injury and temporary or permanent disability?
That doesn't have to be achieved through a separate club. It could happen through a separate section of the forum - just as there are separate sections for all sorts of other things. And you wouldn't necessarily have to be disabled to post to it, but temporary or permanently disabled folks would take the lead on it...
Just trying to be constructive. Sorry if I've misunderstood anything.
thats exactly what i had in mind, i only said club because that was what the subsection was called... like club 250, i doubt theres actually an organisation called club 250 is there???
slowlegs
22nd August 2008, 08:02
Hi delusionz, how are things now that you are back at home?
It seems like people have different interpretations of what you are proposing. Maybe it would help if you told us a bit about why you are suggesting it or what you're looking for.
I imagine you might be looking to share support and information with others who are, as you are now, unable to ride because of injury (or with people have gone through something similar at some point). That could be achieved in a number of different ways (a club or a section of the forum, etc...) But maybe I am misunderstanding you too...?
I think you have hit the nail on the head. I think more of an organisation of people who have experience of getting back onto bikes. I have seen some disabled bikers (and able bodied too) who, while they can ride cannot ride safely. I wouldn't want to go out with a whole group of people, able bodied or not who weren't up to scratch or fully in control of their machines as they would be putting the safety of the whole group at risk. Personally, I have a disability, since my accident I have wanted to achieve "normality" (not that I ever achieved it before though), perhaps anonymity is a better word and not be the centre of attention. It is sometimes hard. People stare and ask personal questions they wouldn't ask others and it is good to get away from that sort of thing. I feel a "special riders interest group" would be a good idea but a riders club would not really be for me, just a riders group who accepted disability as a fact of life for some. From most of the replies to disability questions in these forums and the nature and side effects of motorcycling, which can be and is dangerous I feel the motorcycle world has this and accepts disability already.
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