View Full Version : Newbie to KB.. but with a bit of a problem...
iamkirk
1st September 2007, 12:40
Hey all KB ppl,
Today as i was on my way back from my girlfriends house i had to stop at a police checkpoint on my way through the domain, i thought sweet 'just a WOF and Rego check'....... however, the nice lady cop asked for my license as well. This was all good until i realized i wasn't wearing my glasses (which i only need for sitting at the back of lectures at uni) and it is a condition on my license that i wear them cos i didnt wanna have to get my eyes tested to get out of it. so she slapped a $400 fine on me. I went to get an eye test today (same day i got the infringement notice) at the local optometrist to get out of having that condition on my license and i passed it (not really a surprise to me). Now what i wouldnt mind some advice on is if u guys reckon i could get out of the fine since i dont really need glasses to ride/drive?
ANY ADVICE MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
MSTRS
1st September 2007, 12:42
Too late. At the time it was a condition of licence.
fireball
1st September 2007, 12:42
write to the address in wellington to complain, provide a copy saying you dont need glasses signed by a JP and you should be sweet
Blondini
1st September 2007, 12:58
send a polite note explaining what happened and provide the optometrist letter and beg for mercy:hug:No guarantees they will let you off but worth a shot..
sAsLEX
1st September 2007, 13:10
Too late. At the time it was a condition of licence.
Disagree.
Say it was based on your prescription at the time, produce your current "my eyes are fine" certificate, along with a new copy/copy of the relevant docs to change it to a non lenses required license ...... to the police in a well written simple logical letter and your chances of getting off are rather high.
Try bullshit a bullshiter and you will come off second best......... as we know all cops are bullshitters...... pt
jrandom
1st September 2007, 13:16
Mrs Random once got ticketed for driving at night with no headlights (just parking lights/sidelamps - she'd failed to switch them on properly).
I wrote in and pointed out that it was a clear night, the road regs define sidelamps as being visible from 250m away, and the street was so well lit that she didn't even notice that her headlights weren't on, so it wasn't a safety issue.
They let her off.
Being ticketed for no glasses and then getting an eye test later that day which proved that you didn't really need them seems to fall in a similar ballpark. I'd definitely write the letter.
Edbear
1st September 2007, 14:07
send a polite note explaining what happened and provide the optometrist letter and beg for mercy:hug:No guarantees they will let you off but worth a shot..
Wot she said.
Pumba
1st September 2007, 14:36
Did you not try and tell them you had your contacts in :laugh:
Its worth a try to write a letter with all the documentation saying that you dont actually need them, I wouldnt go holding my breath on the chance of getting off though, weather you need them or not the Licence said you should have been wearing them.
Welcome to KB by the way, keep your hands to yourself and face the frount of the class at all times, that way you wont see it comming.
Boob Johnson
2nd September 2007, 01:32
Mrs Random once got ticketed for driving at night with no headlights (just parking lights/sidelamps - she'd failed to switch them on properly).
I wrote in and pointed out that it was a clear night, the road regs define sidelamps as being visible from 250m away, and the street was so well lit that she didn't even notice that her headlights weren't on, so it wasn't a safety issue.
They let her off.
Being ticketed for no glasses and then getting an eye test later that day which proved that you didn't really need them seems to fall in a similar ballpark. I'd definitely write the letter.As he says write that letter & your off for sure, no doubt
Karma
2nd September 2007, 02:14
Or you could have been wearing contacts ;)
Mully
2nd September 2007, 09:46
cos i didnt wanna have to get my eyes tested to get out of it.
Wait, What?? The eye test AT the driver licencing place?? The one that takes two extra minutes to take after they've already had you there for 30 minutes waiting in line??
Why would't you take it?
peasea
2nd September 2007, 10:23
Hey all KB ppl,
Today as i was on my way back from my girlfriends house i had to stop at a police checkpoint on my way through the domain, i thought sweet 'just a WOF and Rego check'....... however, the nice lady cop asked for my license as well. This was all good until i realized i wasn't wearing my glasses (which i only need for sitting at the back of lectures at uni) and it is a condition on my license that i wear them cos i didnt wanna have to get my eyes tested to get out of it. so she slapped a $400 fine on me. I went to get an eye test today (same day i got the infringement notice) at the local optometrist to get out of having that condition on my license and i passed it (not really a surprise to me). Now what i wouldnt mind some advice on is if u guys reckon i could get out of the fine since i dont really need glasses to ride/drive?
ANY ADVICE MUCH APPRECIATED!!!
Get a gun and go shoot the cop.
Alternatively, give it a shot by writing a polite letter explaining all the circumstances. If you don't need glasses to drive why was it a condition of the license? I need them for reading but I'm fine on the road and I don't have a condition set on my license.
peasea
2nd September 2007, 10:25
Disagree.
Say it was based on your prescription at the time, produce your current "my eyes are fine" certificate, along with a new copy/copy of the relevant docs to change it to a non lenses required license ...... to the police in a well written simple logical letter and your chances of getting off are rather high.
Try bullshit a bullshiter and you will come off second best......... as we know all cops are bullshitters...... pt
Yeah good one, I forgot to mention all that.
lol
NZsarge
2nd September 2007, 10:31
write to the address in wellington to complain, provide a copy saying you dont need glasses signed by a JP and you should be sweet
That sounds good to me, Welcome to KB by the way.
Motig
2nd September 2007, 10:55
Somethings not right here. You need glasses to see the front properly for lectures but an optician now reckons you dont. So which is it ? Can you now miraculously see fine now at the lectures without your glasses or not ? If you still need them for lectures your short sighted and need them when riding, vanity wont help you if you crash.
scumdog
2nd September 2007, 11:03
Get a gun and shoot peasea.
Oh, and definitely write that letter.
Rosie
2nd September 2007, 13:12
Somethings not right here. You need glasses to see the front properly for lectures but an optician now reckons you dont. So which is it ? Can you now miraculously see fine now at the lectures without your glasses or not ? If you still need them for lectures your short sighted and need them when riding, vanity wont help you if you crash.
You'd be surprised how bad your eyes can be before you fail the eyesight test for driving. According to my optometrist, my eyesight is good enough (though only just) that I could operate my car and bike without glasses (but not a truck, interestingly). But since I feel I need my glasses for other long-ish distance things (navigating the supermarket, recognising people on the street, mountain biking etc) I wouldn't feel comfortable driving without them.
imdying
2nd September 2007, 14:58
It's free to try, I'd write the letter. I've been pulled up a few times since I had my eyes fixed (lasered), and only once has a copper mentioned the fact that I didn't have my glasses on. He did however mention that if I'd been less honest, and said that I was wearing contacts, he'd naught have thought twice about it.
sAsLEX
2nd September 2007, 20:36
Alternatively, give it a shot by writing a polite letter explaining all the circumstances. If you don't need glasses to drive why was it a condition of the license? I need them for reading but I'm fine on the road and I don't have a condition set on my license.
Possibly because someone decided a vision test was needed for licenses, a fair call we all get sick of "Sorry didn't see you", but when it came to implementation this was done poorly and many fail the little box in the AA..... even with perfect vision.
Karma
2nd September 2007, 20:43
Possibly because someone decided a vision test was needed for licenses, a fair call we all get sick of "Sorry didn't see you", but when it came to implementation this was done poorly and many fail the little box in the AA..... even with perfect vision.
Erm... you've gotta be pretty poor to fail that...
ynot slow
3rd September 2007, 07:49
What happens in the reverse situation,I've been stopped a few times,check points and speeding,and most times the cops never ask about the glasses/contacts clause endorsement on back of license.Shit how many tickets could I have got off,can think of 3 worth $320 in total.
I mean you could say in letter to get off, you were wearing contacts(I do),and was nervous at check point,girlfriend said she might be pregnant,so wasn't thinking straight at time of check point.
Seriously though anyone tell me what is the claim about minor ticketing and if the police don't ask if your wearing contacts or corrective lens',can you exploit that part as a defence,being the officer wasn't doing his/her job properly,nit picking I know but what's the difference that as a condition of your license and say no wof, which is a condition of the road laws.
PuppetMaster
3rd September 2007, 12:14
Or you could have been wearing contacts ;)
Yes. But too late now. Should have said this to the lady porker at the time.
I have that "must wear corrective lenses" on my license too. If they ask, and they do sometimes, Im wearing contact lenses.
klingon
3rd September 2007, 12:53
...many fail the little box in the AA..... even with perfect vision.
Erm... you've gotta be pretty poor to fail that...
The little box eye test in the AA is completely useless to me. I have to pay every time to get a proper test at the optometrist. And my vision is slightly better than 20/20 (no corrective lenses needed).
The little box just doesn't work for some people.
fireball
3rd September 2007, 16:31
The little box eye test in the AA is completely useless to me. I have to pay every time to get a proper test at the optometrist. And my vision is slightly better than 20/20 (no corrective lenses needed).
The little box just doesn't work for some people.
i know how that feels... stupid failing eye...
NighthawkNZ
3rd September 2007, 16:33
you had contacts in...???? but yup send that letter...
iamkirk
5th January 2008, 16:30
After writing a polite well explained letter the next day they actually let me off after sending in a photocopy of my correct license (without glasses condition) Sorry i didnt post earlier but i actually completly forgot about my post! I'm actually amazed at the amount of reponse i got from everyone at KB :niceone:
sAsLEX
5th January 2008, 16:39
Erm... you've gotta be pretty poor to fail that...
well I have decent vision with my glasses on as I get tested regularly, go free medical!
And yesterday went in and did the test and have learnt a trick, do it one eye at a time, its cheating but makes it soo much easier to see!
iamkirk
6th January 2008, 12:13
haha yea i can also say that the 'one eye' trick really works, this nice little indian lady helped me through it at the AA when i did my restricted! No more pain in the ass optometrist visits..
The Stranger
6th January 2008, 12:30
write to the address in wellington to complain, provide a copy saying you dont need glasses signed by a JP and you should be sweet
What's the basis for your complaint?
Cause you were too dumb to understand a license condition?
Or too lazy to sort it out in the first place?
Or because the cop was doing their job?
Why not ask them to reconsider in light of the fact that you don't actually need glasses for driving.
cowpoos
6th January 2008, 12:35
you should have said you were wearing contacts ya wally...but take the advice of others and you should be able to get out of this one.
sAsLEX
6th January 2008, 12:39
you should have said you were wearing contacts ya wally...but take the advice of others and you should be able to get out of this one.
Contacts are quite easy to see on the eye mate,
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