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The Pastor
4th October 2004, 16:50
Hey all,

I saw these two bikes and thought they would be nice for a first bike

2001 Suzuki RGV150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=15922289

or

2001 suzuki FXR 150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=16522042

Which would you buy and why?


If there are anyother bikes around the same price mark (I can go up to 4G's but i dont really want a loan ) and in auckland can you tell me pretty please? :)

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 16:52
Well 4 grand can get you pretty much anything excluding an Aprillia RS125 or 250 or a Cagiva Mito 125.....

Out of those two i would go for the FXR.... if it was an RG150 it might be different.....

Still i would go with a VTR250..... mint bikes those.....

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 16:56
Why do you say the FXR is better than the RGV?

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 17:01
Why do you say the FXR is better than the RGV?
FXR is a reliable water cooled 4 stroke bike with both electric and kick start. RGV150 is a air cooled 2 stroke bike, with only kick start.... Both have similar power so i would go for the FXR.

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:02
well, I have heard very good things about the ol' FXR. jrandom wheelies them like a mofo! Check his avatar. Excellent fuel consumption, abundance of spare parts...

But what do you want the bike for? You can pick up an FXR for about 2-3 grand. A lot cheaper than the 250's

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 17:03
I see. There are so many choices :S I wish i knew more about bikes :(

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 17:05
As Mad cat said, what do you want the bike for???? Do you want it for commuting or mainly going for rides???

Coyote
4th October 2004, 17:06
Wouldn't a RG have a fair bit more power than the FXR?

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:06
Yep, know waht you are talking about. I did extensive research on the FXR when I wanted one, but now I am lookin more at the 250's.

They are nice bikes, and i would still like one, but teh 250's have lured me! :eek:

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 17:09
Wouldn't a RG have a fair bit more power than the FXR?
The Rg150 has just about double the HP.... But the RGV150 is different and has similar HP

Just like which one is faster, the GSX600 or the GSX-R600....

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:12
So what does the 'V' stand for? "very ghey" "vegan" "veloceraptor"??

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 17:18
But what do you want the bike for? You can pick up an FXR for about 2-3 grand. A lot cheaper than the 250's


I just want a bike....

I'd use it for riding and getting to work/tech

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 17:23
So what does the 'V' stand for? "very ghey" "vegan" "veloceraptor"??
Who the hell knows lol... i sure as hell dont....

Well RM i would go for the FXR mate :niceone:

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 17:30
Sweet if i buy one of those too ill get a fxr, i like the look better anyways!

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:31
Yep! take a look on www.bikepoint.co.nz for FXR's, always plenty there!

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:32
Sweet if i buy one of those too ill get a fxr, i like the look better anyways!
Always a deciding factor! :D

The RGV is fugly, it made me grow ulcers and get a rash and break my femur the first time i saw it, it was that bad

jrandom
4th October 2004, 17:34
I just want a bike....

I'd use it for riding and getting to work/tech

Chances of it going *bang* expensively are less if it's a four-stroke. Which is why I bought an FXR as a transport appliance.

Everyone keeps asking this question... if you need cheap reliable transport while you learn, you can't do much better than an FXR, but if you want to go substantially faster than the cages around you, etc, buy something else.

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 17:35
Always a deciding factor! :D

The RGV is fugly, it made me grow ulcers and get a rash and break my femur the first time i saw it, it was that bad


Its not THAT bad...


but what about the

Yamaha XV250's?


I saw one that looks ok. I like the look alot but what kinda :apumpin: POWER :apumpin:we talking here?

Bonez
4th October 2004, 17:38
Fizzer for sure. I like 4 strokes.

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 17:38
Whats a fizzer?

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 17:40
Its not THAT bad...


but what about the

Yamaha XV250's?


I saw one that looks ok. I like the look alot but what kinda :apumpin: POWER :apumpin:we talking here?
Very little

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:40
Fizzer = FXR (as far as I know). I always thought they were Fixxers?

Blakamin
4th October 2004, 17:43
Yamaha XV250's?


I saw one that looks ok. I like the look alot but what kinda :apumpin: POWER :apumpin:we talking here?
you could walk faster, maybe

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 17:45
I dont walk very fast.

Blakamin
4th October 2004, 17:50
I dont walk very fast.
then you'll still be faster than an xv..... sure they have at least half a horse tho...maybe
do you live somewhere flat???

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:51
I dont walk very fast.
We rest our case :Pokey:

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:52
http://bikepoint.co.nz/DesktopDefault.aspx?Keywords=fxr150&SimpleList=False&ShowThumbnail=True&SortBy=3&ResultsPerPage=50&AdvanceOptions=yes&TabID=3553&Alias=bikepointnz

There you go, all the FXR's for your buying pleasure!

Magua
4th October 2004, 17:54
Whats a fizzer?
Yamaha FZR, same bike as I've got.

Two Smoker
4th October 2004, 17:55
Fizzer = FXR (as far as I know). I always thought they were Fixxers?
you are right, FXR = Fixxer......... Fizzer = Yamaha FZR 250 all other FZR's are Fazer's

SPORK
4th October 2004, 17:58
Arrrrr.... Right and wrong! I'm amazing :S

I want a FZR, so sexy (the black/silver ones)

How much they go for?

Magua
4th October 2004, 18:05
I picked mine up for $1600 with 35,000k's and no side (engine) fairings.

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 18:58
Cracked spedo, ripped seats, ect ect........ tell the whole story :)


still its better than my bike

Indiana_Jones
4th October 2004, 19:02
FXR's are great for the learner :D

-Indy

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 19:07
Yeah i like them. Nothing wrong at all

SPORK
4th October 2004, 19:19
Grood. So when do you reckonx0r that you will be on the road with the wind in your hair & FXR?

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 19:31
Grood. So when do you reckonx0r that you will be on the road with the wind in your hair & FXR?


Well i just saw a GPX250 for sale 2.5K low kms (unsure how much till sat when can view the bike) so i might go for tht depending if ppl say its a good or bad bike,

But if i had to chose out of RGV or FXR id go the FXR for sure

Wenier
4th October 2004, 19:35
i have no idea wut a GPX is but if ya jus after a reliable bike for commuting and some occansional fun usually it'd b a 4 stroke since they dont need as much attention, not sayin you shouldnt give it lots. But if you can get a 250 i would as itll probably give you that bit more in enjoyment and so on than a 150.

Thats my opinion so ya can point out my mistakes now everyone.

SPORK
4th October 2004, 19:37
GPX's are prettyy high performance 2 strokes, so I would stay away from it, as it would try and kill you.

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 19:38
kawasaki GPX they kinda look like the ZXR's apparnetly - i havnt seen one. al will be revealed on saterday

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 19:42
GPX's are prettyy high performance 2 strokes, so I would stay away from it, as it would try and kill you.


Now im more keen to ride it.....

jrandom
4th October 2004, 19:46
GPX's are prettyy high performance 2 strokes, so I would stay away from it, as it would try and kill you.

Far as I know, the GPX250 is a four-stroke twin. Old, wheezy, reliable and tame as anything.

You can buy them new because Kawasaki still make them as learner bikes for the American market, where they call them (giggle) 'Ninjas'.

Magua
4th October 2004, 19:49
I love the yellow GPX's. The new ones go for a hell of a lot of money for a 250 though.

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 19:49
Do u know more that madcat_?


If its tame maybe its more suited for me.

jrandom
4th October 2004, 19:52
Do u know more that madcat_?

Not in the greater universal sum of things, no.


If its tame maybe its more suited for me.

It's a good wee bike. Like Magua says, though, the new ones are pretty pricey for what you get. Considering you can have a brand new SV650 for only $3K more, etc.

SPORK
4th October 2004, 19:53
Really? Well, I have been known to be wrong. I saw a pic of a GPX the other day and I am certain it had a 2 stroke exaust on it, and i thought that I read that it was WOAAHHH


Still could be mistaken though

SPORK
4th October 2004, 19:55
And I would say to trust jrandom over me any day. Poor slobber over here is very green, and should be discounted whenever possible.

jrandom, enjoy nightwish?

Warren
4th October 2004, 20:18
If you hadn't found it already http://fxr150.ws.net.nz/.

SPORK
4th October 2004, 20:25
Well, after cruising around the web, it appares that jrandom was right!

jrandom
4th October 2004, 20:35
jrandom, enjoy nightwish?

Oooh. Did you GMail it? I really should check my mailbox. D'oh.

Jackrat
4th October 2004, 20:45
Electric starts are for pussys.

dhunt
4th October 2004, 20:46
Hey all,

I saw these two bikes and thought they would be nice for a first bike

2001 Suzuki RGV150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=15922289

or

2001 suzuki FXR 150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=16522042

Well it comes down to personal preference in my books. Having mates with both. The RGV150 is about 15kg or so lighter and is much quicker, but then being two smoke is higher maitance. The FXR has a nice digital speedo and is very good on the gas, something like 350-400km to a tank if I remember right.

The Pastor
4th October 2004, 21:06
yeah, that is tru the econamy is wikid! $4 i think per tank. am i right?

Warren
4th October 2004, 22:40
The FXR has a 15L tank, and I think the RGV is only 7L. It is good only having to stop for gas every 400km.

White trash
5th October 2004, 06:50
Electric starts are for pussys.

Ha ha. Great post :2thumbsup

Do you read AMCN? Remember Boris's first column? Opening statemene went something like "Fairings are for poofters. Big buttery ones who like rough man-sex in seedy public toilets"

Laughed my arse off reading that column, then they had pages and pages of letters to the ed for months afterwards.

Posh Tourer :P
5th October 2004, 08:31
Well, after cruising around the web, it appares that jrandom was right!

He was indeed - GPX250 would be a nice wee bike RM....

The Pastor
5th October 2004, 08:57
He was indeed - GPX250 would be a nice wee bike RM....



Cheers, i cant wait to test drive it :) going to view at 11am on saterday getting my lerners about 10am the same day......


Oh and buy they way my name name is Renegade Master..... Rene is fine but not RM thats kinda werid.


For eg


"Hi im RM"

'what are you some kind of retard? RMMM RMMMM '



:D

jrandom
5th October 2004, 09:08
Rene is fine

No it's not. It makes you sound like a girl.

rodgerd
5th October 2004, 09:23
Still i would go with a VTR250..... mint bikes those.....

The newer ones with the single-sided swingarm are the sexiest 250s around.

And for 4 grand you could be looking at older Bandits, the very practical Accross, and all sorts of similar goodies.

One thing to consider: the RG150 will be more potent. The FX will almost certainly last longer, and won't require mucking around with adding oil and the like.

2_SL0
5th October 2004, 11:23
This http://amiland.ww.co.nz/index2.htm was for sale dunno if it still is and he wanted around $4500 from memory. Certainly what I would go for if ti was my thing.

jrandom
5th October 2004, 11:27
This http://amiland.ww.co.nz/index2.htm was for sale dunno if it still is and he wanted around $4500 from memory. Certainly what I would go for if ti was my thing.

RS125's aren't exactly what you'd put at the top of a list of reliable commuter bikes for learners, though, are they.

SPORK
5th October 2004, 11:39
Nope, jrandom, I thought you were downloading it? Pretty s'ure you said that in the Crap Album thread.

2_SL0
5th October 2004, 11:41
LOLOL, :o no. :bye:

jrandom
5th October 2004, 11:45
Nope, jrandom, I thought you were downloading it? Pretty s'ure you said that in the Crap Album thread.

I tole ya, I couldn't find it.

Could you GMail it to me anyway, then?

SPORK
5th October 2004, 11:47
I tole ya, I couldn't find it.

Could you GMail it to me anyway, then?
Umm, yep, once i get home. I did a quick Kazaa for it the other day and there were quite a lot of people with it.

'She is my Sin' is the name, try searching again, I'm sure it's there

SPORK
5th October 2004, 11:50
Argh, I did a KB search for Nightwish and it showed me what you said. I wonder why it not let you Nightwish your self up?

jrandom
5th October 2004, 12:01
Argh, I did a KB search for Nightwish and it showed me what you said. I wonder why it not let you Nightwish your self up?

I had another go and got it. Must have been a bad day, or mebbe I was on the wrong supernode or summat. Will now have a listen and report back in due course.

Motoracer
5th October 2004, 12:05
I want a FXR150 too! :disapint:

jrandom
5th October 2004, 12:09
I want a FXR150 too! :disapint:

Swap ya for the gixxer ;)

SPORK
5th October 2004, 12:11
I want a FXR150 too! :disapint:
No sarcasm! Sheesh, making us poor ol' sub 600-supersport people feel crap...

jrandom
5th October 2004, 12:13
No sarcasm! Sheesh, making us poor ol' sub 600-supersport people feel crap...

Nah, he's not kidding dude, he does want one for around-town stuff, believe it or not. He's racing the 600 these days.

gav
5th October 2004, 12:25
The newer ones with the single-sided swingarm are the sexiest 250s around.

Are you referring to a VTR250? with a single sided swingarm?? Really??? Gotta picture?
I'd buy this
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Road-bikes/Sports-tourer/auction-16691724.htm
Mind you I paid less than $4K for a 97 CBR600F :niceone:

Motoracer
5th October 2004, 12:34
Swap ya for the gixxer ;)
Ummmmmm, I'll get back to you on that one................... NOT!

Oh yea and I was serious about getting the Fixxer.

discodan
5th October 2004, 14:30
Jeez not many of you guys have ridden an RGV i'm guessing. I had one for 3 years and it is actually a really reliable bike from my experience. My mate bought an FXR at the same time and his bike and his bike broke down alot compared to the RGV. Always started first time, lighter, good fuel mileage. Also it is way faster than the FXR, so much so that it is in a different league. I rode RG 150s and they had a bit more up top but not much difference. The only thing I like about the FXR is it sounds a bit gruntier. My vote is for the RGV :2thumbsup

jrandom
5th October 2004, 14:45
Jeez not many of you guys have ridden an RGV i'm guessing. I had one for 3 years and it is actually a really reliable bike from my experience.

Yeah, but would that same bike be as reliable now if you picked it up and rode it for *another* three years? You can't buy RGVs new any more, you know.


The only thing I like about the FXR is it sounds a bit gruntier

Well, I've never heard them accused of *that* before :lol:

rodgerd
5th October 2004, 14:50
Are you referring to a VTR250? with a single sided swingarm?? Really??? Gotta picture?


Yep (http://www.bikescape.com.au/rentals/vtr250/vtr250.htm); saw one in the flesh last year.

(If it isn't single sided, it's well disguised).

SPORK
5th October 2004, 15:16
I had another go and got it. Must have been a bad day, or mebbe I was on the wrong supernode or summat. Will now have a listen and report back in due course.
And the consensus is?

And when I was lookin' through my NZ Motorcycle Trader and News, and I saw a Honda Hornet 250, anyone know anything about that?

jrandom
5th October 2004, 15:20
And the consensus is?

I like it. It does sound like it should be the theme music from an '80s TV show, though.

SPORK
5th October 2004, 15:29
I like it. It does sound like it should be the theme music from an '80s TV show, though.
'80s theme music?! No way! It is pure excellence.

Get 'Wishmaster' from them, you may like that better

Jamezo
5th October 2004, 16:43
Wishmaster is alright, but I think a better song is Stargazers. Nemo is good too! (and of course, She Is My Sin pwns all)

The Pastor
5th October 2004, 17:18
No it's not. It makes you sound like a girl.



Then call me Renegade.


Its a mans name (sounds like) *Ren - e* not *Ren-a*

SPORK
5th October 2004, 17:37
Or Master.

Come crawling faster... Obey your Master, Master!

Sorry... :D

The Pastor
5th October 2004, 18:43
Or Master.

Come crawling faster... Obey your Master, Master!

Sorry... :D



Don't say sorry for mettilaica! they are good. Hard name to spell though

Two Smoker
5th October 2004, 19:11
Don't say sorry for mettilaica! they are good. Hard name to spell thoughLOL, Metallica... mmmmm Master Of Puppets..... *off to listen to it*

SPORK
5th October 2004, 19:19
LOL, Metallica... mmmmm Master Of Puppets..... *off to listen to it*
Good man!
Nothing like a bit of metal to cheer you up!

*listens*

Ahhhhhh, there's the stuff!

Fade to Black changed my life... for the better. Now I am the smoothly oiled person you see before you

pipeman
5th October 2004, 19:36
RGV NO QUESTION ABOUT IT
1. because 2 stokes more fun
2. more exciting when hit power band
3. faster
4. teaches you more about motorcycles (spark plugs, tuning etc.)
5. and last of all you want one
warning excessive power can make a smile apair on you face

SPORK
5th October 2004, 19:49
Argh, but what about the saftey issue? And also about the maintenince side of things. Sure, if you are an experienced mechaninc/rider, but for a new rider I am not too sure about the user-friendlyness

The Pastor
5th October 2004, 20:28
I like guns n roses....


They are good and are best.

Two Smoker
5th October 2004, 20:30
RGV NO QUESTION ABOUT IT
1. because 2 stokes more fun
2. more exciting when hit power band
3. faster
4. teaches you more about motorcycles (spark plugs, tuning etc.)
5. and last of all you want one
warning excessive power can make a smile apair on you face
If thats a factor..... then fuck the RGV150 hunk, go for an RG150..... more power, better styling and engineering.... Plus you can race it in SS150....

The Pastor
5th October 2004, 20:36
I like the RGV name better i mean FXR is kinda lame and besides were not talking RGV vs RG here are we?

Two Smoker
5th October 2004, 20:39
I like the RGV name better i mean FXR is kinda lame and besides were not talking RGV vs RG here are we?
But if you start talking 2 strokes, the RG150 is far superior to the RGV....

The Pastor
5th October 2004, 21:00
kinda :Offtopic: though aye

2_SL0
5th October 2004, 21:53
I have not ridden a Hornet so this is just what I have heard. "Very Nice, I met a guy who had one and was thrilled with it. They certainly look the part. But as a first time bike, I would say NOOOOO."

Zapf
6th October 2004, 00:07
And the consensus is?

And when I was lookin' through my NZ Motorcycle Trader and News, and I saw a Honda Hornet 250, anyone know anything about that?

Yea I know a bit about them. Its a inline 4, puts out 40hp/14'000 rpm and 2.4kg/m / 11'000 rpm. Dry weight 151kg, wet 168kg. Runs 11.5 compression and Chassie code is MC14E. Its a 6 speed, steering head configuration are 25.45degree / 100mm.

The only down side is that it runs 180/55 17 rear tires and they cost big bucks each.

Link to Honda Japan's site on Hornet 250 (http://www.honda.co.jp/motor-lineup/hornet/index.html) :)

I think u are better off getting a VTR250, more torque, less hunting for the right gear, more fun powering out of corners. Lets you concentrate on riding instead of finding the right gear at 1st.

Bonez
6th October 2004, 07:05
Electric starts are for pussys.
(Troll)Tell that to all them HD riders :mad: (End of troll)

SPORK
6th October 2004, 07:19
Yea I know a bit about them. Its a inline 4, puts out 40hp/14'000 rpm and 2.4kg/m / 11'000 rpm. Dry weight 151kg, wet 168kg. Runs 11.5 compression and Chassie code is MC14E. Its a 6 speed, steering head configuration are 25.45degree / 100mm.

The only down side is that it runs 180/55 17 rear tires and they cost big bucks each.

Link to Honda Japan's site on Hornet 250 (http://www.honda.co.jp/motor-lineup/hornet/index.html) :)

I think u are better off getting a VTR250, more torque, less hunting for the right gear, more fun powering out of corners. Lets you concentrate on riding instead of finding the right gear at 1st.
Argh, goodo. I'm more interested in the faired bikes, but I think that a naked one would be easier on my pocket :)

I've heard that the VTR has a singe sided swingarm (on the later models) is this a good or bad thing mechanically wise?

VivaVee
6th October 2004, 07:59
Unlike all but one other, I have owned/ridden an RGV150. Now jrandom is claiming high reliability for his FXR150 but i can assure you than his new bike has spent more time at Colemans than my RGV150 ever did. My RGV150 NEVER broke down and I rode it almsot every day commuting for that three years - rain or shine. It got hammered. All I ever did to it was fill the tank with gas and periodically toop up the 2-stroke oil tank - I did use nice Motul theoretically ash-less oil though - the engineer in me. Apart from that it got the routine maintenance stops to meet the warranty requirements. It is an auto-mix 2-stroke so none of that old fashioned mix the oil & gas stuff was needed. I would think that any mower mechanic could work on it - I don't know because I never had to. I filled the tank once every fortnight and always had change out of $10. The oply thing that pissed me about it was the kick start - it could be a pain starting on a damp cold winter morning when I hopped on all sleepy like and over choked the damn thing.

The only problem with ANY used sub-250cc is that i is likely to have been ridden by a beginner like your self. No offense intended - we all have to start somewhere and learn. I re-learned to ride on the RGV and then moved on to the VFR. I don't regret buying either bike.

Antallica
6th October 2004, 09:05
Mine's still going hard. Hardly ever been in the shop eh. Maybe twice in the 1 1/2 years I've had it.

Btw JR, my mate's got his wheelies sussed and it scares the shit out of me when he does it. Definitley not for me.

jrandom
6th October 2004, 09:21
Now jrandom is claiming high reliability for his FXR150 but i can assure you than his new bike has spent more time at Colemans than my RGV150 ever did. My RGV150 NEVER broke down and I rode it almsot every day commuting for that three years - rain or shine.

Well, there you go. Can't be much wrong with the RGV, then.

Not sure what you're referring to, though; my bike's never had mechanical problems... it's only ever been at Colemans for servicing. Being as I'm too much of a lazy numpty to do it meself, and I'm not particularly enamoured of the guys up the road at Holeshot.

The Pastor
6th October 2004, 10:06
This keeps getting more and more interesting. Most of the posts are baised because the poster has owed a bike. If it was an unbiased post they wouldnt have much personal experiance. Has anyone owned or riden both? Its a bit hard to say these bikes never brake down because mine didnt. Or That they always brake down because mine did. Alot comes down to the rider and how much damage they have done to them right? Most people would of ridden these as there first bikes on there lerners when they didnt know much stuff so it could easily (and understanably) get damaged by the rider not excatly from the genral make of the bike?

clint640
6th October 2004, 13:54
My $0.02, having ridden on and/or with 150's a few times:

FXR's are a great learner/commuter bike - small, light, e-start, reliable, good around town. If you plan to do much touring or lots of open road rides they are too slow.
The RG/V will be a bit better on the highway, but higher maintenance.
Don't forget the Kawasaki KR150 2 stroke - same power & cheaper parts than an RG.
All the 150's are excellent for smaller people to learn on, but if you have the size & strength to feel OK on a 1 or 2 cyl 250 they may be a better choice.

Cheers
Clint

jrandom
6th October 2004, 14:02
if you have the size & strength to feel OK on a 1 or 2 cyl 250 they may be a better choice.

Hehehe.

Indeed.

Being more the build you'd expect to see on a Beemer tourer myself, though, I'll just point out that the weenie-bikes still aren't too bad for the chunkier ones among us. A bike that weighs the same as you do has enormous advantages in maneuverability, learner rider or otherwise.

The Pastor
6th October 2004, 16:25
i think the fxr won this battle by a running mile

SPORK
6th October 2004, 17:12
Indeed it did! Although some other non polled bikes got pretty high recomendations!

By the way, your sig is rather loud and obnoxious, here's me politely asking if you could size it down a bit please? :)

So what chu gunna buy? :D

Blakamin
6th October 2004, 17:15
By the way, your sig is rather loud and obnoxious, here's me politely asking if you could size it down a bit please? :)
? :D
here here!

please from me tooo

The Pastor
6th October 2004, 17:31
My big siggy made my posts look bigger


Hopefully im getting a 91 GPX on saterday, then free gear from firestormer!!! (Thanks again mate)

Yeah getting my scratch n win done on sat morning too.
YEAH!!!!

カワサキキド
6th October 2004, 22:17
Don't forget the Kawasaki KR150 2 stroke - same power & cheaper parts than an RG.

I have a KR with less than 6000k's on the clock, Quicker than my brothers GPX too!
But I'm propably a bit far south for you, fun ride back thou.

There's also a RG on www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Road-bikes/Sports-tourer/auction-16477098.htm , it's even further south, even better ride back!

gav
7th October 2004, 07:41
RogerD
the VTR250 doesnt have a single sided swingarm as standard.

SPORK
7th October 2004, 08:09
ok, now you have a sig worthy of recognition. Go Maddox!
How hard would it be to attach a single sided swingarm to a bike?

The Pastor
7th October 2004, 08:43
Yeah maddox is the best :D

riffer
7th October 2004, 09:32
ok, now you have a sig worthy of recognition. Go Maddox!
How hard would it be to attach a single sided swingarm to a bike?
Piece of piss to attach it. It's getting it to work properly that's the problem.

Main problems:

1. Getting the bushes, spacers etc in at the attachment point so the swingarm doesn't foul anything.
2. Mounting and then dialing in the shock so that it works properly (ie damping, rebound, preload, etc)
3. Setting up bushes and spacers so that the wheel sits in the right place to align perfectly with the chain.

Resolve those problems (and no 2 is probably the biggest as its a safety/handling issue) and its gonna work fine.

Nothing a good mechanioal engineering student couldn't work out.

I had a mate once whose older brother threw a 454 chev into a 2-door Landcruiser jeep. He kept blowing transfer cases so he built his own one.

Unfortunately he killed himself in that jeep in competition. :disapint:

piebuss
7th October 2004, 14:33
hey, thats my FXR on trademe. I'll spare you the sales pitch :sleep: but they are a really good, simple little bike
Give me a call if you want to come check it out.
ask for Woody
ph 09 5247715 or 021 1031952
small world eh!

The Pastor
7th October 2004, 18:27
Thanks I will do if the sale im looking at on saterday is a no-go.

I am Milky
25th November 2004, 14:30
Guys im sorry im such an idiot but can you tell me wtf a single sided swing arm is im completly confused...gives you more power or something? I'm sorta a rookie bout these things n too lazy to pick up a book every now n then.

Blakamin
25th November 2004, 14:56
Guys im sorry im such an idiot but can you tell me wtf a single sided swing arm is im completly confused...gives you more power or something? I'm sorta a rookie bout these things n too lazy to pick up a book every now n then.
Have a look at the swingarm on this

SPORK
25th November 2004, 15:12
Of course it HAD to be a Duc, eh? You COULD of shown a VFR800 or something, but of course it was a Duc! :D And if it HAD to be a Duc, why not a 916 or something cool?

Blakamin
25th November 2004, 15:16
Of course it HAD to be a Duc, eh? You COULD of shown a VFR800 or something, but of course it was a Duc! :D And if it HAD to be a Duc, why not a 916 or something cool?
Thought I'd find something different :eek:
and the MH900e is very cool!!!!

duckman
25th November 2004, 15:28
Thought I'd find something different :eek:
and the MH900e is very cool!!!!
**Ahem** Second that!! :innocent:

SPORK
25th November 2004, 15:34
Hmmmm... MEH! :D

JohnBoy
25th November 2004, 20:17
it maybe a bit late in the thread but heres my 2 cents...
RGV is good for town riding or shorter distance highway riding (as they are oil cooled and heat up quickly). i suppose you could say they are quick (for a 150), but if you were to go 2 stroke go RG150 or preferbly KR150.

FXR is ok around town and good for long distance riding (water cooled with wicked fuel economy) but is obviously slower than the strokers.

if you dig really deep you might even be able to find a NSR150 (Honda) they look pretty cool. Only ever seen them in like motocycle trader, never in flesh. but being in auck's you will have the pick of the dealers and should be able to find something.

Happy hunting :ar15:

Two Smoker
25th November 2004, 20:22
if you dig really deep you might even be able to find a NSR150 (Honda) they look pretty cool. Only ever seen them in like motocycle trader, never in flesh. but being in auck's you will have the pick of the dealers and should be able to find something.


Mt Eden M/C had one, it was a Repsol colours one, single sided swing arm, FUCKING GORGEOUS!!!!

jrandom
25th November 2004, 20:34
FXR is... water cooled

No, they're oil/air cooled.

I am Milky
26th November 2004, 07:27
sori guys still at a loss maybe im just an idiot 'single sided swingarm???' maybe i've lost the plot but once i was told to lose something you have to have had it in the first place :lol: maybe he was right. neway give me a breif description. i'm blonde sori. :o

Blakamin
26th November 2004, 07:36
sori guys still at a loss maybe im just an idiot 'single sided swingarm???' maybe i've lost the plot but once i was told to lose something you have to have had it in the first place :lol: maybe he was right. neway give me a breif description. i'm blonde sori. :o
Look at the picture (specifially the centre of the back wheel) closely, then look at another bike... see anything missing in the picture???
it be missing half a swing arm... thats coz the whole lot is on the other side... hence "single sided swing-arm" :weep:


look at both these pictures of the same bike

I am Milky
26th November 2004, 10:12
Blakamin thank you very much i am of understanding now!!! wonda wot dat would look like on my fxr probibly no good. Do you no what kinda price is gud for a full serviceing for my bike i've been quoted $125-150 :crazy: but realy don't wanna pay dat much. Does that sound like a fair price tho?

Blakamin
26th November 2004, 10:22
Blakamin thank you very much i am of understanding now!!! wonda wot dat would look like on my fxr probibly no good. Do you no what kinda price is gud for a full serviceing for my bike i've been quoted $125-150 :crazy: but realy don't wanna pay dat much. Does that sound like a fair price tho?
Best to ask some FXR riders.... I have no idea :shit:

Antallica
26th November 2004, 10:25
Sounds like a standard job, which would be give it a checkover and lube. I doubt they will actually have a real good look or clean out ya carbie for that much.

You need to get details on what exactly they will do to it.

jrandom
26th November 2004, 10:33
i've been quoted $125-150 :crazy: but realy don't wanna pay dat much. Does that sound like a fair price tho?

I've paid $240 for a service on my FXR - that one was a bit pricier than usual because it needed some fiddly electrical work.

$125 is a cheap service. Think about it - most shops need to charge $40-$60 per hour for grease monkey time, and it does take two or three hours to give a bike a basic going-over, plus the cost of oil and any parts.

Indiana_Jones
26th November 2004, 10:42
FXR

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Yea :D

-Indy

JohnBoy
1st December 2004, 07:43
No, they're oil/air cooled.
Sorry, has been a while since i have looked at one, i thought that it had a radiator and assumed water cooled. :spudwhat:

avgas
3rd January 2005, 10:55
RG is god. I used to scare all the big boys on that puppy.
Ultimate 1st bike, cos its cheap, goes like crap, and keeps going till it blows up.
Id buy another one if they still sold new ones.
FXR's were ok, but i used to sit on 145ks all day and get bored.
RG was exciting

Indiana_Jones
3rd January 2005, 12:55
FXR's were ok, but i used to sit on 145ks all day and get bored.
RG was exciting

Your sure you don't mean 1450ks? :niceone:

-Indy

inlinefour
5th January 2005, 17:32
Plonker of a poll. I'd go for the NSR any day over the tonka toys on offer here :Pokey:

avgas
5th January 2005, 17:57
Plonker of a poll. I'd go for the NSR any day over the tonka toys on offer here :Pokey:
Now your just being plain silly :shifty:

The Benski
5th January 2005, 23:51
:Punk: [QUOTE=renegade master]Hey all,

I saw these two bikes and thought they would be nice for a first bike

2001 Suzuki RGV150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=15922289

or

2001 suzuki FXR 150
http://www.trademe.co.nz/structure/auction_detail.asp?id=16522042

Which would you buy and why?


If there are anyother bikes around the same price mark (I can go up to 4G's but i dont really want a loan ) and in auckland can you tell me pretty please? :) hey dude go the FXR they are so much better , RG's may be faster but provide no low down round town power and they sound like a big cicada with its wings tied together ! go the FXR and theres no dicking around with 2 stroke oils either , also FXRs look and sound like they wana go fast ! :niceone:

inlinefour
28th January 2005, 02:47
NSR is a wee bit too much for ya? :lol:

Dodgyiti
30th January 2005, 09:22
Just checked the poll results
Can't believe it, come on !
The RGV kills! :devil2:

avgas
6th February 2005, 12:49
Nah, not too much........too ringdadingdingdaaaaahhhhhhuuuuuuuu in the NSR
RGV250 had a nice worrbbbbbbblllllllllle sound

crazylittleshit
6th April 2005, 03:37
Fucken RGV my second bike and It puts a power valve in the piston (bastard) :love: :angry2:

stu_dog
11th April 2005, 00:11
had a rgv 150 as my second bike,most fun bike dollar for dollar i have owned!nicked named the BMX due too its spoke wheels. wheellies off the throttle in first gear.
My opinion comparing the fxr to the rgv,well have ridden both and looks go to the fxr,but for fun and excelleration the rgv takes it,my choice would be the rgv.even managed to get an indicated 160kmph out of it!!!!!

rabbitintheheadlight
6th January 2006, 17:23
I've had my RGV150 for about 6-7 weeks and my sister got an FXR150 yesterday.

I took the FXR for a ride and it was really easy and smooth to ride in comparison. When I first got the RGV, it took me a little while to get used to pulling away without stalling, but the FXR is easy right from the beginning. I got used to the RGV quickly enough though and it's been fun learning.

I have to admit the electric start on the FXR is nice to have - just hop on and go. I can imagine my sister's evil cackle when we go riding together in future and I have to kick start...

I guess the real difference is in the riding style. FXR has engine braking (when you gear down) and the bike is happy just plodding along, RGV's engine braking is almost non-existent and it needs to be ridden hard sometimes to keep it happy.

I still like my RGV though, after riding the FXR. Maybe because I'm used to it, it's mine, I enjoy the smoke and the thrill of the powerband and there is one thing better about it at least - the seat's more comfortable :Punk:

So, in conclusion, if I try not to be biased: I guess the FXR would be a better choice for daily commuting. But I don't regret buying the RGV, it's a fun bike and will last me till I get my full license and look for something bigger/better.

And we'll see how they compare when we go riding together...

Fireproof
7th January 2006, 08:45
I own a rgv150, rated at about 26hp whereas the fxr is rated at 20hp. The rg 150 is rated at about 36hp. I have not owned the bike long but am considering upgrading to a 250 already, the rgv is nippy round town and keeps up on the open road but is very light and tyres are ridiculously thin. A mate owns an fxr and they seem like nice bikes but he recently blew the engine, partly due to thrashing it i believe which i guess is what happens when you you only have 20hp to play with. I think a 250 would be a better start for anyone

Suzi Q
10th January 2006, 18:36
My first bike was an FXR150 and it was brilliant round town but too slow on the open road. I believe it is a great learners bike.