Stop Messin Around Wid De Clox!!

[vifferman]

Alright - every pharkin year, they institute daylight robbery, just as it's starting to get light when I wake up, and just as I'm getting over Winter. WHY???
I'd be quite happy if we didn't have it at all, but if we have to have Daylight Slaverings (for whatever unfathomable reason), why is the NZDT period so friggin long?!?? It used to be (way back in the dim, dark ages when I was shorter and hairier) that we were only subjected to it for a few weeks in the height of summer, now it's half the year. And what does it achieve? Who is it really a benefit to?
Did they ask you, or me, or The Bloke Next Door what we thought about it, and if it was OK to mess around with our body clocks? Do they come around and reset all your clocks for you twice a year? I've got like 15 bazillion clockz or devices with clocks innem, and some of them are so pahrkin stooopid that I have to get the manual out to work out how to change 'em.
I HATE IT!!!
Didja know how few countires in the Southern Hemisphere actually subject their citizens to this nonsense? Check this out:
http://www.worldtimezone.com/daylight.htm

[marty]

daylight saving should be all year. what about riding your bike late in the evening after tea, walking the dogs, kids, wife etc. who cares if it's dark in the morning?

[Hitcher]

Geez, FS, get with the programme man!

Are you worried that the extra hour of daylight will fade the paint on your ride, or of the stress that it places on god's creatures who now have to get up an hour earlier for the dawn chorus?

Interestingly my GPS went to NZ Summer time a week before the actual day...

[marty]

so you could have been riding around at warp factor 20, and got off in court because you were actually there an hour before you left?

[wari]

I LIke daylight saving ... butt ... it should start LAbour weekend ...

THis years its bina shock tomy system ... :pinch:

[VivaVee]

daylight saving should be all year. what about riding your bike late in the evening after tea, walking the dogs, kids, wife etc. who cares if it's dark in the morning?

We already have a permanent 'daylight saving' of half an hour. Anyway, who was the inumerate moron who called it daylight saving? I would like to see where the daylight hours are being saved to. Ah. Forgot. They all get sent to the South Pole so that they have 12 months of daylight down there. So if you want 24/7 riding, get snow tyres and emigrate to the Deep South.

[Hitcher]

so you could have been riding around at warp factor 20, and got off in court because you were actually there an hour before you left?
You would have returned to normal time as soon as you had stopped. Doppler shift and all that...

[Hitcher]

I LIke daylight saving ... butt ... it should start LAbour weekend ...

THis years its bina shock tomy system ...
Must resist... Must resist... Must resist...

[jrandom]

You would have returned to normal time as soon as you had stopped. Doppler shift and all that...

By the same token, perhaps that's why it's always the red bikes that are faster than us.

[vifferman]

We already have a permanent 'daylight saving' of half an hour. Anyway, who was the inumerate moron who called it daylight saving? I would like to see where the daylight hours are being saved to. Ah. Forgot. They all get sent to the South Pole so that they have 12 months of daylight down there. So if you want 24/7 riding, get snow tyres and emigrate to the Deep South.Eggs Zachary.

[jrandom]

It's social engineering, innit.

The Labour gummint making everyone get up and go to work an hour earlier, so that they may engage in relationship-strengthening barbecueing activities thereafter, etc.

Bastards.

Still, makes no difference to me. I get up when the sun starts filtering through the kids' bedroom curtains and hits their photosensitive 'jump up and down in cots and yell at each other' triggers, be it at 5am or 9am.

[Posh Tourer :P]

Must resist... Must resist... Must resist...

Oh go on...

[Ms Piggy]

daylight saving should be all year. what about riding your bike late in the evening after tea, walking the dogs, kids, wife etc. who cares if it's dark in the morning?
I'm with you Marty! I love light evenings! :2thumbsup Not a morning person myself so I couldn't care less if it's dark until 8am but gimme evenings full of light (or cash) and I'm happy as. I'm so wrapt that they made it earlier this year too. Means more evening riding - yeeehawwww.

[ching_ching]

Me no complaining. Only timepieces to change were:

Clock on wall
Microwave
Time function on stereo
Clock on bike

My wristwatch, just push a couple of buttons (not bad for $50) and notebook automatically ticks over.

:Punk:

ching

[vifferman]

Me no complaining. Only timepieces to change were:

Clock on wall
Microwave
Time function on stereo
Clock on bike

My wristwatch, just push a couple of buttons (not bad for $50) and notebook automatically ticks over.

:Punk:

chingI usually do all the clocks, but this time didn't, so that saved me a couple. But it was:
Two digital clocks (easy going forward an hour, hard going forward 23)
The oven clock (always need the manual)
The microwave clock (easy - has a "clock set" button and a dial thingo)
The mini system (as above)
The VCR (oops - forgot to do that; need to turn on the TV and VCR and use the remote)
Two car clocks (need a pointy thing for the 306, but Peter did it this morning with a pen or summat)
The bike's clock/voltmeter thingo (haven't done it yet)
My watch (easy)
My other watch (don't think I'll bother)
Cellphone (Whoops! Missed that till just now)
Digital camera (ditto)
Timer on towel rail (easy)
TV (Or does it pick it up from signals? Have to check...)

Damned clocks...

[Hooks]

Oh go on...

Yeah go on !! do it ... do it now !! ..... or is it too late now ?? Hang on I'll send you some of the time I've been saving by fast forwarding the movies we get so that we don't have to watch the trailers !!

[jrandom]

Timer on towel rail

Ooooh, lah-de-dah.

[MikeL]

It's not natural, is it? In fact, it's an abomination. If God had meant us to have more daylight he would have given it to us in the beginning. It's this sort of perversion of God's master plan that is leading to the breakdown of society as we know it...

[Hooks]

It's not natural, is it? In fact, it's an abomination. If God had meant us to have more daylight he would have given it to us in the beginning. It's this sort of perversion of God's master plan that is leading to the breakdown of society as we know it...


But he did intend for us to have more !! ... If he didn't then the sun would have a switch on it ... wouldn't it ?? . :yeah: ..... Reaches for the bleach and strides purposely towards the bathroom .... :o

[vifferman]

Ooooh, lah-de-dah.Yeah, an overwhelming abundance of gew-gaws, gadgetry and contrivances; trappings of rampant consumerism ...
The timer on the towel rail's important though, as having the heated towel rail on all the time fooks the towels, so the one in our en suite ("ooooh, lah-de-dah") has a timer so it operates for only a few hours a day.

[dhunt]

I'm with you Marty! I love light evenings! :2thumbsup Not a morning person myself so I couldn't care less if it's dark until 8am but gimme evenings full of light (or cash) and I'm happy as. I'm so wrapt that they made it earlier this year too. Means more evening riding - yeeehawwww.
I guess you don't have 8 oclock lectures. I now have to get up at 6 oclock not 7 and it still quite :cold: at the time of the morning. I think it should be moved to a later date when it is warmer and lighter at such hours.

[wari]

Must resist... Must resist... Must resist...

THEy seeke him herre they sikh him therre .. :raghead:

BUtt alll they find is discombobulation ... :yeah:

[Motu]

I hate getting up in the dark,I've enjoyed these last few weeks waking up in daylight,birds twitering...but then again going home in daylight is kinda nice too - evening rides....mmmmm.

ok,explain wari,I know you are dying to tell us what discombobulation is - lemee guess...something avout how Disco Bob moves?

[Ms Piggy]

I guess you don't have 8 oclock lectures. I now have to get up at 6 oclock not 7 and it still quite :cold: at the time of the morning. I think it should be moved to a later date when it is warmer and lighter at such hours.
No mate, I did last year though - Economics. :sick: I think Humanities prefer more civilised hours for lectures.

[wari]

I hate getting up in the dark,I've enjoyed these last few weeks waking up in daylight,birds twitering...but then again going home in daylight is kinda nice too - evening rides....mmmmm.

ok,explain wari,I know you are dying to tell us what discombobulation is - lemee guess...something avout how Disco Bob moves?

AHhhh ... at last ... someone with an inquizitive mind ... :yeah:

BUtt ... I care not about di-vulging the wordes antecedent ...

HOwever ambiguity can leade to tergiversation ... :spudwave:

[James Deuce]

I loathe Daylight Saving with a passion. It is a ridiculous contrivance, born of a half-assed idea that Dairy farmers might like more daylight in the evening. They don't and they don't like it either.

I messes up my body clock (it's all about me), and makes me grumpy until I get my extra hour of sleep at the other end of the process. I have two kids who are massively grumpy because of the change in routine. Whihc makes me more grumpy. I then get told to stop being so grumpy, whihc makes me grumpy, which makes my wife grumpy too.

Summer sucks.

[jrandom]

I think Humanities prefer more civilised hours for lectures.

Hah. Buncha limp-wristed latte-drinking turtleneck-wearing tree huggers.

[Ms Piggy]

Hah. Buncha limp-wristed latte-drinking turtleneck-wearing tree huggers.
Fuckin' too right! :2thumbsup And don't forget liberal pinkos (woteva that means).

[Ms Piggy]

I loathe Daylight Saving with a passion. It is a ridiculous contrivance, born of a half-assed idea that Dairy farmers might like more daylight in the evening. They don't and they don't like it either.

I messes up my body clock (it's all about me), and makes me grumpy until I get my extra hour of sleep at the other end of the process. I have two kids who are massively grumpy because of the change in routine. Whihc makes me more grumpy. I then get told to stop being so grumpy, whihc makes me grumpy, which makes my wife grumpy too.

Summer sucks.
Well judging by all the typos you must be a very grumpy old grump at the moment. :bleh:

[jrandom]

And don't forget liberal pinkos (woteva that means).

Dammit, I'm off the pace this morning...

[James Deuce]

Well judging by all the typos you must be a very grumpy old grump at the moment. :bleh:
Yheres mo divlonf yu[pd!!

:mad:

[ching_ching]

Ooooh, lah-de-dah.

Haha, I'll say JR. Me, just chuck my towel that's coated with my bodily filth up onto the hot water cylinder.

:niceone:

Towel rail with a clock... awesome bro! :2thumbsup:

ching

[Ms Piggy]

Yheres mo divlonf yu[pd!!

:mad:
Me thinks someone needs a lie down & niiiice warm cup of milo.

[Ms Piggy]

Dammit, I'm off the pace this morning...
Yes indeed - maybe you need a lie down & milo too.

[AMPS]

Daylight saving was invented by an American Indian who cut 12" off the end of his blanket and sewed it to the other end to make it longer.
Good on ya, Tonto.

[marty]

1/2 an hour permanent? how does that work? surely GMT (or UTC as it is now called) isn't 1/2 hour forward just to appease the sun worshippers

[Hitcher]

THEy seeke him herre they sikh him therre .. :raghead:

BUtt alll they find is discombobulation ... :yeah:
In through the nose, out through the mouth... In through the nose, out through the mouth...

[vifferman]

1/2 an hour permanent? how does that work? surely GMT (or UTC as it is now called) isn't 1/2 hour forward just to appease the sun worshippersHave a look at the Date Line - it has a bit of a kink in it, to accommodate the Chatham Islands, and so we're on the same time in the whole country, the time is permanently 30 minutes ahead of where it should be.
At least, that's what I think (just made this load of bollocks up, hoping it's right...:wacko: )

[Hitcher]

Have a look at the Date Line - it has a bit of a kink in it, to accommodate the Chatham Islands, and so we're on the same time in the whole country, the time is permanently 30 minutes ahead of where it should be.
At least, that's what I think (just made this load of bollocks up, hoping it's right...:wacko: )
The Chathams are 45 minutes ahead of us.

[marty]

the 180th meridian is about 80 miles east of gisborne. that is exactly on the opposite side of the world as greenwich, which is at the zero meridian (prime meridian). essentially then, we are 11.75 hours behind GMT, but there is always a cut off from one time zone to the next, so to make it easier it is 12 hours for the whole country. nz is actually split into time zones, separated by minutes rather than hours, as there is a spread of about 12 degrees from the south west to the north east. also, norfolk island, which is almost exactly the same longitude as gore, is 11.5hrs ahead of gmt, when gore is 12.....

[F5 Dave]

Longer days & lots of daylight when you leave work. Trials bike strapped into the van & riding till it starts to get dark at some crazy hour in mid summer with a big grin on yer smacker.

Nothing better than a decent mid week ride.

You should all buy trials bikes. Life will become a happier place.
aahh:grouphug:

[Hoon]

Daylight savings rocks!!! I love being able to get home after work and still have a few hours to work on the bike or go for a run or get the washing in.

During summer we get like 7 hours more light in a day than we do in winter. Thats means daylight savings pushes our sunset out 4.5 hrs from 5pm to a max of 9:30pm at summer peak. Where as our sunrises change 2.5 hrs from 8:12am to 5:43am.

I reckon its a good idea. I can't see much benefit with a sunrise at 4:40am so makes sense to shift the whole clock forward an hour so we get more evening daylight instead. Hell if it were up to me I'd make it 2 hours!!!

[SPORK]

Dammit, I'm off the pace this morning...
you are VERY off the pace. you posted that at 12:26!

LOL I AM TEH WINX0R!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

[Jackrat]

I like it because I get up early and drive east,on the way home I drive west(of course).Before day light saving I get bad sun strike both ways,after it comes into effect I don't have to worry about it.
It also allows me more time to get things done when I get home.
It makes no other difference to me in the morning because I get up before sunrise anyway.
Resetting a clock just ain't that hard. :crazy:

[jrandom]

you are VERY off the pace. you posted that at 12:26!

LOL I AM TEH WINX0R!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

and I r t3h suxx0rz.

[k14]

Yeah I reckon daylight saving is great. I saw on the news (i think it was) that when it was bought in there were massive protests etc, couldn't see the point. Its definately the best method to do things.

Wasn't the first reason it was bought in to save power??

[Marknz]

I loathe Daylight Saving with a passion. It is a ridiculous contrivance, born of a half-assed idea that Dairy farmers might like more daylight in the evening. They don't and they don't like it either.

I messes up my body clock (it's all about me), and makes me grumpy until I get my extra hour of sleep at the other end of the process. I have two kids who are massively grumpy because of the change in routine. Whihc makes me more grumpy. I then get told to stop being so grumpy, whihc makes me grumpy, which makes my wife grumpy too.

Summer sucks.

and then you get on your bike and it's all good huh?
:cool:

[Slim]

I love daylight savings too. I am also not a morning person, and love having the extra hours in the afternoon/evening to get out on my bike after w*rk. At the height of summer I can finish at 3pm and get over 6 hours of riding in before the sun goes down. Dinner in Taupo anyone? :niceone:



All this talk of daylight savings fucking up your body clock is bollocks, btw.

And if you have problems with your kids not going to sleep in the evening, get some blackout/thermal backing on their curtains.

[Skyryder]

Daylight saving has got to be one of the biggest consumer cons of all time. Not only is it bad for the health and a safty risk for us bikers due to sleep deprivation, http://www.sleepfoundation.org/pressarchives/daylight_sav.cfm

The real reason has nothing to do with giving you more leisure time but everthing to to with giving you 'more spending time.'

You have to get up an hour earlier, that's an hours less sleep everday from the first Sunday in October each year and would cease at 2.00am Standard Time on the third Sunday in March of the following year. This equates to a loss of 168 hours of sleep over the daylight saving period. And this loss is not harmfull?? Yea give me a Tui's. Right. And to think that the New Zealand public has been conned into believing that there is no health issue involved or economic factors in daylight saving.

This from http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s689016.htm

But another angle to the daylight saving discussion is "sleep". Over the last 10 years, our working hours have increased by 10%. Many of us are permanently sleep-deprived, and never wake up feeling rested. We also know that disrupted circadian rhythms (which happen to shift workers who continually change their shift) and insufficient sleep, cause major health problems, as well as financial costs. In 1988, the cost of accidents that were related to sleep problems, amounted to more than $US 56 billion. As a result of these sleep-related accidents, in 1988, about 25,000 people died, and 2.5 million people suffered disabling injuries. Some major accidents which have been linked to insufficient sleep and/or disrupted circadian rhythms, include the destruction of the space shuttle Challenger, the nuclear accident at Chernobyl, and the oil spill catastrophe from the supertanker, Exxon Valdez.

Currently, about 25 countries shift to daylight saving time every spring, and the next autumn, return to their standard time. Each time they shift into daylight saving, everybody loses one hour of sleep time. And when they shift out of daylight saving time into standard time, everybody gets one extra hour of sleep time in the morning.

Stanley Coren, from the University of British Columbia, decided to see whether the change-over, into, and out of, daylight saving, had any effect on traffic accidents. He and his team had access to the data on some 1.4 million accidents that were reported to the Canadian Ministry of Transport for the years 1991 and 1992. They looked at the accidents that happened on the Monday before the changeover, and the Monday immediately after.

They found that when Canada went into daylight saving in the springtime, there was an 8% increased risk of accidents on the Monday after the changeover.

But when people had one hour's extra sleep (when they shifted out of daylight saving back into normal time), there was an 8% fewer risk of traffic accidents.

It seems as though the change in accident rates is mainly related to getting more or less sleep, rather than interfering with the circadian rhythms. In other words, getting one hour's less sleep, can increase our chances of a car accident the next day by 8%.

Apart from all the arguments about daylight saving fading the curtains and annoying the cows, maybe the real lesson is for us to get more sleep.


© Karl S. Kruszelnicki Pty Ltd

[Oscar]

I dunno 'bout all that - but the extra daylight is making the curtains fade...

[Slim]

You have to get up an hour earlier, that's an hours less sleep every day from the first Sunday in October each year and would cease at 2.00am Standard Time on the third Sunday in March of the following year. This equates to a loss of 168 hours of sleep over the daylight saving period. And this loss is not harmfull?? Yea give me a Tui's. Right. And to think that the New Zealand public has been conned into believing that there is no health issue involved or economic factors in daylight saving.
Read your source material more closely. We lose an hours sleep ONCE, not an hours sleep EVERY NIGHT AFTER THE CHANGE.

Each time they shift into daylight saving, everybody loses one hour of sleep time. And when they shift out of daylight saving time into standard time, everybody gets one extra hour of sleep time in the morning.

Stanley Coren, from the University of British Columbia, decided to see whether the change-over, into, and out of, daylight saving, had any effect on traffic accidents. He and his team had access to the data on some 1.4 million accidents that were reported to the Canadian Ministry of Transport for the years 1991 and 1992. They looked at the accidents that happened on the Monday before the changeover, and the Monday immediately after.
Disrupting circadian rhythms for the entire Daylight Savings period, my arse. The reason they have the changeover on a Saturday night/Sunday morning is so you can get that extra hours sleep on Sunday morning & get to bed at the proper time on Sunday night so that you're "up & at 'em" on Monday for work. If you've got sport or church or something on Sunday morning & you're not smart enough to get yourself to bed a bit earlier Saturday night, then it's your own stupid fault.

I lucked out this year. Night shift on the change to Daylight Savings meant I worked 7 hours but was paid for 16 :devil2: and I didn't have any "disruption" to my sleep patterns outside what's already happening because I'm a shift worker. :)

[Hoon]

Bah more traffic accidents due to sleep deprivation what a load of crap....pointless anyway because according to that theory then there must be less accidents when we change back from the extra hours sleep so the net result is still the same.

Sleep deprivation is a by product of the society we live in. We choose to work longer to make more money....even if somehow we were allocated more hours for rest, we would probably opt to use them to make even more money instead just like we have with weekends and public holidays.....ahhh isn't capitalism great???

[Skyryder]

Read your source material more closely. We lose an hours sleep ONCE, not an hours sleep EVERY NIGHT AFTER THE CHANGE.)

Let's see if I can make this clear. Clocks go forward one hour, stay forward one hour, until they go back one hour. You have one hour more daylight in the eveing and as a result of this xtra hour you are in bed one hour later. So in effect you are losing one hour in the evening every evening.

Now as the clock has been put forward, this means the next day you have to get up an hour earlier; in the dark. So it could be argued that instead of loosing one hours sleep you are loosing two.

Skyryder

[Storm]

Extra daylight is all good. It usually only takes me an day or two to change my sleep rythms over, so I dont worry about it all the time. I dont need the sun shining in my window at o dark hundred in the morning, but I DO need it when I want to go for a decent ride after work. Anyway, we live in NZ, so if you are angry about losing 1 or 2 hours sleep, just make a claim on the time and sue the government :eek:

[Slim]

Let's see if I can make this clear. Clocks go forward one hour, stay forward one hour, until they go back one hour. You have one hour more daylight in the eveing and as a result of this xtra hour you are in bed one hour later. So in effect you are losing one hour in the evening every evening.

Now as the clock has been put forward, this means the next day you have to get up an hour earlier; in the dark. So it could be argued that instead of loosing one hours sleep you are loosing two.
If your sleep patterns are controlled by the clock, as most working peoples are, then you only lose an hours sleep once a year..

EG:

I go to bed at 10pm standard time & get up at 7am standard time during the winter. That's 9 hours sleep. Wow. 9 hours! It always feels like 4 hours sleep. :wacko:

Anyway.

On the evening of the change over, I go to bed at 10pm, the clocks move forwards while I'm sleeping, and I get up at 7am. That's 8 hours sleep. Only it hardly ever happens like that. If you're like me, you change the clocks forward before you go to bed if you've got something on in the morning, or after you get up Sunday at 10-11am-ish.

Anyway again.

During Daylight Saving, I go to bed at 10pm, which is at least half an hour after the sun goes down when it gets to the longest day later in the summer, and I get up at 7am. That's, ummm, ..... Slim gets out her calculator ...

NINE hours sleep! :gob:


Then you do the whole reverse thing & gain back an hour of sleep when we change back to standard time again in March.



The total hours of daylight each day will get longer from the Spring Equinox onwards (which happened prior to the clock change), whether we change the clocks or not. Changing the clocks is simply a way to more efficiently use the available hours of daylight during the summer, giving us more useable leisure time. Or, if you're cynical, give us more usable spending hours.

Every time an alarm clock goes off to wake you from sleep, you're fucking with your Circadian Rhythms. Don't blame it on Daylight Savings, blame it on our Capitalist society.

[Redstar]

Its great I can get home and its still light ;) :first: :shifty: :pinch: :Playnice: :finger: :angry2: :scooter: :confused: :puke: :stoogie: :headbang: :cold: :crybaby: :no:

[F5 Dave]

Let's see if I can make this clear. Clocks go forward one hour, stay forward one hour, until they go back one hour. You have one hour more daylight in the eveing and as a result of this xtra hour you are in bed one hour later. So in effect you are losing one hour in the evening every evening.

Now as the clock has been put forward, this means the next day you have to get up an hour earlier; in the dark. So it could be argued that instead of loosing one hours sleep you are loosing two.

Skyryder

Haha, that’s funny. I’ve been to Christchurch on numerous occasions so I know they have electricity, so obviously you are taking the piss.

-Slim I think he is just winding you up, Nobody is that dim.

'Loosing two' comic genius! The clue is in the spelling as well.

[vifferman]

I donnot understand all the ansers here. It doesnot effect me as I do not follow the clock but jst do my work when it needs doing. There is no more hours of daylight and the day is not longer so it doesnot matter.

[F5 Dave]

First sensible thing I’ve read for ages.

[Eddieb]

It is a ridiculous contrivance, born of a half-assed idea that Dairy farmers might like more daylight in the evening. They don't and they don't like it either.

Not quite accurate...




"Although "daylight saving time" was mentioned by Benjamin Franklin in a humorous essay in 1784, the real credit for it has to be given to a little-remembered London builder, William Willett (1865-1915). As he was taking an early morning a ride through Petts Wood, near Croydon, Willett was struck by the fact that the blinds of nearby houses were closed, even though the Sun was fully risen.

In his pamphlet "The Waste of Daylight" he wrote:

"Everyone appreciates the long, light evenings. Everyone laments their shortage as Autumn approaches; and everyone has given utterance to regret that the clear, bright light of an early morning during Spring and Summer months is so seldom seen or used".

His campaign led to the introduction of British Summer Time in an Act of Parliament in 1916. Clocks were put one hour ahead of GMT during the Summer months. The energy saving benefits of this were recognised during World War II, when clocks were put two hours ahead of GMT during the Summer. This became known as Double Summer Time. During the war, clocks remained one hour ahead of GMT throughout the winter.

It was during the Big War (World War I) that daylight saving time was adopted by several countries. The reason was that the clocks were moved forward by an hour, thus saving fuel that would be necessary to produce light in the late hours of the day. It was during another war, World War II, that United States kept time one hour ahead of the default standard time (from February 9th, 1942 to September 30th, 1945). During that period no changes to the time were done during the summer months.

[James Deuce]

Not quite accurate...We were talking about NZDT. The reason quoted when it was adopted was to give Dairy farmers more daylight.

[marty]

Let's see if I can make this clear. Clocks go forward one hour, stay forward one hour, until they go back one hour. You have one hour more daylight in the eveing and as a result of this xtra hour you are in bed one hour later. So in effect you are losing one hour in the evening every evening.

Now as the clock has been put forward, this means the next day you have to get up an hour earlier; in the dark. So it could be argued that instead of loosing one hours sleep you are loosing two.

Skyryder
how did your mummy ever let you buy a big nasty motorbike?

[Hitcher]

We were talking about NZDT. The reason quoted when it was adopted was to give Dairy farmers more daylight.
You sure 'bout dat? From memory it was dairy farmers who were most upset about it (well, my Dad was for one) and then there was that dairy farming district in Northland that for years made the TV news at the start of DST when they steadfastly refused to put forward their clocks each spring. But then, hey, senior moment...

[James Deuce]

You sure 'bout dat? From memory it was dairy farmers who were most upset about it (well, my Dad was for one) and then there was that dairy farming district in Northland that for years made the TV news at the start of DST when they steadfastly refused to put forward their clocks each spring. But then, hey, senior moment...

Yep and there were a couple of other districts that bravely resisted the forces of progress too, however, and this is the tale that was relayed to me by Heather's 89 year old Grandfather, about 6 months before he died, "They were buggered when the milk tankers kept turning up too early. Lost them hundreds in wasted milk it did."

[Skyryder]

Haha, that’s funny. I’ve been to Christchurch on numerous occasions so I know they have electricity, so obviously you are taking the piss.

-Slim I think he is just winding you up, Nobody is that dim.

'Loosing two' comic genius! The clue is in the spelling as well.

No flies on you ol' son. Sharp as.............

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

how did your mummy ever let you buy a big nasty motorbike?


:msn-wink: :msn-wink: :msn-wink: :msn-wink: :msn-wink: :msn-wink:

Skyryder

[RiderInBlack]

I f*cken love day light savings. Means my customers can get back from work in time to hold their horses for me (and, more importantly, be there to pay me). As a morning person I wake when the sun is up anyhow. Now if we could get the sun to stay up longer in winter as well, I'd get more work done and still have time to ride then as well.