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carbacca
5th September 2007, 11:24
its coming and it looks damn hot.

http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/07/hyosung/07_gt250r/gt250r.htm

its in chinese but you can still see the pretty piccies

***DROOLAGE***:Punk::Punk::Punk:

skelstar
5th September 2007, 11:31
Like the treatment they've made to fairing...quite Fireblade like (less so in the 2nd pic though).

<img src="http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/07/hyosung/07_gt250r/motion/ban_02.jpg">

<img src="http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/07/hyosung/07_gt250r/motion/ban_04.jpg">

bert_is_evil
5th September 2007, 11:45
Geeze that's a teeny tiny person in the red leathers!

dnos
5th September 2007, 11:53
Sooooo - they have just coloured it in with vivid right?

discotex
5th September 2007, 17:06
They just get better and better each year. Wonder what the HP/Torque figures will be like with EFI.

unrealone
5th September 2007, 20:12
they could've atleast changed the tach... looks nice, fuel injection sounds sweet.

limbimtimwim
5th September 2007, 20:25
Geeze that's a teeny tiny person in the red leathers!It's a lady, Bertie. Who likes fans.
<img src="http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/07/hyosung/07_gt250r/motion/side_02.jpg">

I'm her newest fan. I hope she likes me.

Fixing the wonky carburation on the Hyo 250 with FI is a great thing. Big ups to Hyosung for doing it.

Coyote
5th September 2007, 20:45
Cor. If they 650 comes out like that I'd seriously consider getting one next year

Cache Wraith
5th September 2007, 21:53
more pics here

http://www.flykittymotorsports.com/xpix/08gt250_yw.htm

McJim
5th September 2007, 22:02
Now if only Honda would come to the party with a fully faired, electronically fuel injected VTR250 with 6 gears and clip on handlebars I think we'd have a winner.

While Honda fail to do that Hyosung will continue to be New Zealands number one selling sportsbike.

Silly Honda

Cache Wraith
5th September 2007, 22:02
and United Motors in the USA are doing some nice things with the GT250R as well

http://bp2.blogger.com/_Mvhjidbvdzc/RdVLyFM_dPI/AAAAAAAAARI/9cixWory1XE/s1600-h/V2S250R.jpg

Cache Wraith
5th September 2007, 22:06
maybe for some, but if your 6"4" like me, the Hyosung wins hands down. It's about the only decent sized 250 that doesnt look like a 250 and the best sized 250 ride for taller blokes. Anyone over 6' on the Honda looks silly.

carbacca
6th September 2007, 08:14
another hyosung article. this time on the RX125 supermoto

http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/07/hyosung/07_rx125sm/rx125sm.htm

tri boy
6th September 2007, 09:36
Looks like Hyosung will be a very big player in the years to come.
Every year these models seem to be getting better. The Japanese may have serious competition soon. MHO.:niceone:

bert_is_evil
6th September 2007, 09:45
It's a lady, Bertie. Who likes fans.
<img src="http://www.ibike.com.hk/01_bike_report/07/hyosung/07_gt250r/motion/side_02.jpg">

I'm her newest fan. I hope she likes me.

Fixing the wonky carburation on the Hyo 250 with FI is a great thing. Big ups to Hyosung for doing it.

Well will you look at that, a bike riding lady. I like her leathers, and the red duct tape over the Yamaha insignia. oh, and the pretty hello kitty fan.

delusionz
6th September 2007, 10:03
mmmmmmmmm fuel injection, that means upgrading intakes and exhaust without fucking with carbs? or does that mean its even harder now if you have to take the chip out and download the fuel maps and edit them and reflash them?

wonder if they have an o2 sensor like cars.. will have to look underneath one

skelstar
6th September 2007, 10:21
Well will you look at that, a bike riding lady..
Bet she rides a scooter.

carbacca
6th September 2007, 11:15
this is her interview article

http://www.ibike.com.hk/ib_gal/07_nghai/video/cl.htm

shes a rider in the china superbike championship

limbimtimwim
6th September 2007, 12:54
mmmmmmmmm fuel injection, that means upgrading intakes and exhaust without fucking with carbs? or does that mean its even harder now if you have to take the chip out and download the fuel maps and edit them and reflash them?Dynojet make a thing called the PowerCommander that screws with the inputs into the ECU. It's a stupid approach, but it does work. The ECU used in 4 cyclinder Suzukis (Read GSXRs) can be adjusted all sorts of ways if you have the right equipment (But many don't and fit PowerCommanders). I understand the Kawasaki ECU is adjustable too.

So, in terms of adjustability, you'll have to wait and see.

But I guess it will be related to the ECU in the Suzuki SV650.

Alterings carbs is fun, surely more fun than plugging in computers?

deanohit
6th September 2007, 13:48
Damn, 1 of the best looking too fiddies just got hotter. Wonder if the 650 will get a makeover at the same time.

EJK
6th September 2007, 14:27
Whoah nice. It looks way better :)

discotex
6th September 2007, 14:41
What I want to know is... When are Hyosung going to bring out a supersport or suberbike model?

The 650 just doesn't have the stats to back up it's looks but an IL4 version would be pretty attractive or even better a v-twin thou model.

delusionz
6th September 2007, 14:42
just what is so much nicer looking about the new 2 tone fairing and bigger R ?

looks the same to me, with fuel injection being the technical improvement.

bert_is_evil
7th September 2007, 08:51
Bet she rides a scooter.

I reckon - gotta be a pink one too

bert_is_evil
7th September 2007, 08:54
this is her interview article

http://www.ibike.com.hk/ib_gal/07_nghai/video/cl.htm

shes a rider in the china superbike championship

That's way cool! grr, I can't get the vid to play tho

delusionz
7th September 2007, 09:35
That's way cool! grr, I can't get the vid to play tho

maybe you need this?

http://port25.technet.com/pages/windows-media-player-firefox-plugin-download.aspx

bert_is_evil
7th September 2007, 16:05
maybe you need this?

http://port25.technet.com/pages/windows-media-player-firefox-plugin-download.aspx

Unfortunately that didn't work either, I can't play it in firefox or ie. I'll give it a try on my home pc - dumb work laptop

McJim
7th September 2007, 16:49
What I want to know is... When are Hyosung going to bring out a supersport or suberbike model?

The 650 just doesn't have the stats to back up it's looks but an IL4 version would be pretty attractive or even better a v-twin thou model.

Apparently a V-Twin Thou' is on the cards already.

disenfranchised
8th September 2007, 11:01
If you go the the korean website select the GT650R here (http://www.hisntmotors.com/product_e/roadsport/main.asp) and look at the specs it says FI for carburation now. So presumabley the 650 has indeed got the same treatment.

Might take a while to hit our shores though

carver
8th September 2007, 11:15
If you go the the korean website select the GT650R here (http://www.hisntmotors.com/product_e/roadsport/main.asp) and look at the specs it says FI for carburation now. So presumabley the 650 has indeed got the same treatment.

Might take a while to hit our shores though

hyosungs are shit, their first attempt will have problems, unless they steal and clone a japanese system.

mynameis
8th October 2007, 15:50
Might take a while to hit our shores though



Well not quite right there mate, it's out, the all new 2008 GT250R fuel injected. The 650 should be following through shortly.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-121651098.htm?key=419668

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-121649151.htm?key=419668

limbimtimwim
8th October 2007, 16:19
Whether you're starting a race career, riding for fun or just getting around, the GT250R is ready to take you where ever you want to go.Race career?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

mynameis
8th October 2007, 20:09
Race career?

HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Pissed laughing my head off at that too :lol:, ZXR250 will shit all over it in streetstock IMO. No where near the old mintas as yet but hey dealers are famous for making claims and quotes of such nature.

Cr1MiNaL
8th October 2007, 20:30
Im sure a racer on a 250 Comet cud beat me on a good track.... :(

EJK
9th October 2007, 14:22
:gob: It's already out!

MidnightMike
9th October 2007, 15:57
Looks like they've sourced fairing from other crashed hyosungs, horrible looking, they looked mint the way they were!!

Fuel injection sounds alright though.

Meh, still happy carving it up on teh GSX.

WarlockNZ
9th October 2007, 17:49
:corn::corn::corn:

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bonus
10th October 2007, 10:47
i still dont think its injected tho, i just bought a 2007 GT250R Yesterday, and asked about the injected models, was told that australia have snapped them up but nz wont be getting them until 2009, nz are goin to keep a close eye on australia and see if there are any teething problems with the new fuel injection system before we get em here

dave_a
10th October 2007, 16:53
did you buy that black one from auckland for 5500?

bonus
10th October 2007, 18:43
nah got it from a dealer here in chch

Sparky Bills
10th October 2007, 18:47
Im sorry to say....

It will always be a Hyo-Suky!:baby:

And so therefore its gay.:Pokey:

riffer
10th October 2007, 19:32
Im sorry to say....

It will always be a Hyo-Suky!:baby:

And so therefore its gay.:Pokey:


Your opinion obviously doesn't count as you work for the Ducati and Honda dealer Martin... :dodge:

(always declare any conflicts of interest).

ZeroIndex
10th October 2007, 20:00
Geeze that's a teeny tiny person in the red leathers!
Maybe that's how tiny someone has to be for a Hyosung to work properly?

ZeroIndex
10th October 2007, 22:46
hyosungs are shit, their first attempt will have problems, unless they steal and clone a japanese system.
Even then, it'll still be only mildly better than a chinese bike...

Cr1MiNaL
10th October 2007, 22:58
I beg to differ, they are cool bikes... N look the part too...

Shadows
10th October 2007, 23:07
Apparently a V-Twin Thou' is on the cards already.

And has been for a couple of years but it never eventuated. There was talk about it being supercharged back then.

Weaver
11th October 2007, 16:34
I was at TSS this afternoon and they had about half a dozen injected GT250Rs. Other than the bits of black all over them they looked the same. The gray ones looked really cool. I suppose you'd be able to put the injected fairings on the early models.
Also I didnt see any "fuel injected" stickers on it. One would think that they would brag about it

MattyP
11th October 2007, 19:50
I was at TSS this afternoon and they had about half a dozen injected GT250Rs. Other than the bits of black all over them they looked the same. The gray ones looked really cool. I suppose you'd be able to put the injected fairings on the early models.
Also I didnt see any "fuel injected" stickers on it. One would think that they would brag about it


Was there any mention as to power increases? The non EFI versions put out 29HP I think.

Weaver
11th October 2007, 21:09
Sorry mate I didn't ask. If there is any I imagine it'll only be a couple of horse power. The fuel injection would mainly be more fuel efficent

unrealone
12th October 2007, 05:08
Was there any mention as to power increases? The non EFI versions put out 29HP I think.

Think its roughly 28 at the crank.. so more like 25 (Optimistic :P) at the wheel.

Sparky Bills
12th October 2007, 15:21
Your opinion obviously doesn't count as you work for the Ducati and Honda dealer Martin... :dodge:

(always declare any conflicts of interest).



Ill let you off with a warning this time Spew-Zuki owner! hehe

Pancakes
22nd October 2007, 15:08
Was T Spectrum the other day and they had the new '08 colour in too but I looked and it's the same powerplant. Asked the guy if they're going to be injected and he siad not that he'd heard.

unrealone
22nd October 2007, 16:09
Was T Spectrum the other day and they had the new '08 colour in too but I looked and it's the same powerplant. Asked the guy if they're going to be injected and he siad not that he'd heard.

That's your typical uninformed salesman... I say good on Hyosung for putting out an EFI version of their bike.

To all you others bagging Hyosungs, if you're a tall rider than they're the perfect bike.

Pancakes
22nd October 2007, 16:18
That's your typical uninformed salesman... I say good on Hyosung for putting out an EFI version of their bike.

He is the main mechanic there and had just built it. I'm not saying they're not coming out but I know what the motor of mine looks like and what carbs/injectors look like and this one was new colours and carbs.


To all you others bagging Hyosungs, if you're a tall rider than they're the perfect bike.

Yeah I got mine when there weren't many out there and kindqa took a punt on how it'd turn out. Low power but low price, known history cos you can buy it new and keep it good. They checked all the clearances the other day at nearly 20,000k's and everything was sweet. Low maintainance bill and reliable. Sometimes you have to trade pure speed for something and cos mines a commuter thats it. Pulls from idle too, great for everyday use. Tested a Bandit 250 with Yoshi (?) cams etc and it was a rocket but would have been shit in the congestion and would have pissed me off.

Gubb
22nd October 2007, 17:59
When I stopped in at TSS the other day I saw the new models, and they aren't Fuel Injected. they are exactly the same, with different fairings.

Ollie was saying that the demand for the '07 models will increase, as a lot of people have been asking for the solid coloured fairings.

Apparently, the Fuel Injected models are being rolled out to Australia, but not here yet, maybe in '09.

Weaver
22nd October 2007, 18:40
When I stopped in at TSS the other day I saw the new models, and they aren't Fuel Injected. they are exactly the same, with different fairings.

Ollie was saying that the demand for the '07 models will increase, as a lot of people have been asking for the solid coloured fairings.

Apparently, the Fuel Injected models are being rolled out to Australia, but not here yet, maybe in '09.

My bad, I should have taken a closer look. Never mind.
I had a group of other riders mistaking mine for a 650 today:clap: (I took the 250 stickers off)

EnzoYug
23rd October 2007, 15:01
I will consider trading my 07 for the 08-FI.

Im serious.

delusionz
29th October 2007, 10:59
I will consider trading my 07 for the 08-FI.

Im serious.

Whats the point of that?

Ps. What do you mean life begins in 4th gear... Nothing begins in any gear on a hyo lol

dave_a
29th October 2007, 11:53
considering you gpx 250 is so much faster ;)
atleast a hyo looks good rather than a gpx which is one of the ugliest bikes ever made,and we all know 250's arent made for their speed

And no I dont have a hyo Im actualy waiting for the new ninja 250 to come out

delusionz
29th October 2007, 12:12
considering you gpx 250 is so much faster ;)
atleast a hyo looks good rather than a gpx which is one of the ugliest bikes ever made,and we all know 250's arent made for their speed

And no I dont have a hyo Im actualy waiting for the new ninja 250 to come out

Hyosung's Oil burner doesn't put out squat compared to Kawasaki's liquid cooled twin. You'll realise that when you get your hands on the next ninja (if you ever do) which I heard they aren't bringing into NZ.

You are right though, 2007 Hyosung looks better than 2007 Ninja, Thats obvious, but theres always some tradeoffs, but personally I wouldn't trade Kawasaki for Hyosung nor would I trade the quality, reputation, nimbleness, lightness, easy handling, power and maneuverability for just looks.

bonus
29th October 2007, 13:27
i still dont think its injected tho, i just bought a 2007 GT250R Yesterday, and asked about the injected models, was told that australia have snapped them up but nz wont be getting them until 2009, nz are goin to keep a close eye on australia and see if there are any teething problems with the new fuel injection system before we get em here

Funny how people dont pay attention! :Oi:

dave_a
29th October 2007, 14:45
Hyosung's Oil burner doesn't put out squat compared to Kawasaki's liquid cooled twin. You'll realise that when you get your hands on the next ninja (if you ever do) which I heard they aren't bringing into NZ.

You are right though, 2007 Hyosung looks better than 2007 Ninja, Thats obvious, but theres always some tradeoffs, but personally I wouldn't trade Kawasaki for Hyosung nor would I trade the quality, reputation, nimbleness, lightness, easy handling, power and maneuverability for just looks.


My old man knows someone very well in kawasaki and the 08 ninja will definatly be coming around the start of next year and the price tag is very very appealing

Weaver
29th October 2007, 19:21
personally I wouldn't trade Kawasaki for Hyosung nor would I trade the quality, reputation, nimbleness, lightness, easy handling, power and maneuverability for just looks.


POWER!!! Your kidding right. Its a four stroke 250 :gob:

HTFU
29th October 2007, 19:40
08 ninja will definatly be coming around the start of next year and the price tag is very very appealing

Go on then......$

delusionz
29th October 2007, 22:50
POWER!!! Your kidding right. Its a four stroke 250 :gob:

Are you trying to tell me GPX's rated 38HP vs Hyo's rated 28HP is all false? And that the GPX is not liquid cooled nor has bigger carbs & higher compression?

xwhatsit
29th October 2007, 23:43
Liquid cooled? Who gives a shit?

All liquid cooling allows you is more engineering tolerances so you can build a higher revving/compression motor.

Part of the reason why the GPX has 38 claimed horsepower.

However 38hp out of an aircooled motor would be a hell of a lot better. Less maintenance -- but more importantly less weight, better aerodynamics, less to fail.

Bigger carbs and higher compression are nothing to brag about either. All they allow you is the 38hp; other than that they don't mean squat.

The GT250R and the GPX250 are both good solid commuting bikes. Neither are leagues ahead of the other. Delusionz, I understand the passion for your bike -- hell I love my little CB250RS, which most for most people isn't very exciting -- but there's no need to shit all over other people's rides, especially when yours isn't especially better.

delusionz
29th October 2007, 23:53
xerxesdaphat I was just stating the differences as to why I chose it. And retorting to claims that it doesn't have more 10 more HP and that it's ugly.

I think facts are better to work with than "shitting" on bikes..

I never said Hyosungs a POS and only homos ride it or whatever as thats no reason to choose one over another... Hard facts about what it has what it doesn't have, What it does what it doesn't do are better reasons.


Now back to what I came to this thread to ask, Why would you trade an 07 carbed for an 08 FI? Theres probably no noticeable difference and you would probably be paying atleast an extra 1k maybe 2

TOTO
30th October 2007, 00:34
considering you gpx 250 is so much faster ;)
atleast a hyo looks good rather than a gpx which is one of the ugliest bikes ever made,and we all know 250's arent made for their speed

And no I dont have a hyo Im actualy waiting for the new ninja 250 to come out

one thing I dont understand Is , why they do not suppply the 250 ninja in Kawaka Lime green ? at least there is a silver one coming our way which I think is much more beautiful than the BLAAACK :puke: hope they get the green , one can only hope. do you know how much is does repainting if fairings cost ?

Pancakes
30th October 2007, 10:10
Liquid cooled? Who gives a shit?

All liquid cooling allows you is more engineering tolerances so you can build a higher revving/compression motor.

Part of the reason why the GPX has 38 claimed horsepower.

However 38hp out of an aircooled motor would be a hell of a lot better. Less maintenance -- but more importantly less weight, better aerodynamics, less to fail.

Bigger carbs and higher compression are nothing to brag about either. All they allow you is the 38hp; other than that they don't mean squat.

The GT250R and the GPX250 are both good solid commuting bikes. Neither are leagues ahead of the other. Delusionz, I understand the passion for your bike -- hell I love my little CB250RS, which most for most people isn't very exciting -- but there's no need to shit all over other people's rides, especially when yours isn't especially better.

AMEN!

I'll dicuss the pro's and con's of different 250's till the cows come home but refuse to have POWER be a deciding factor! If you want power and your criteria for a bike is cost, style and weight to (over?) simplify things get a friggen 400! or a 600 which are really light too these days and they'll be newer than most 250's the same price too the way our crapped up learner market is being choked by dealers etc at the moment.

Delusions, to calculate speed on a 250 you don't need to know the max power as much as the average power in the revs you use in each gear. Did you see Top Gear where they got an EVO 9 and a 1600cc diesel Nissan Station wagon and had a drag race from idle? The wagon got to the end of the runway before the Evo came on boost! If you look at a dyno map the time taken for a car to reach a certain speed is dictated by the area under the curve in the graph not the peak power. Statistics. I'm not saying I know which bikes faster cos I haven't lined two of them up or seen any stats on 0-100 times etc but don't be fooled by thinking one number on the spec sheet tells the whole story.

I was also temped to say next time I see you I'm gonna cane your ass on my bike with 3/4 of the power but I won't.

delusionz
30th October 2007, 11:36
Well I started on a 50cc as it was the only thing I could drive with my license at the time, I thought I would just pass the 2 wheeler phase upon getting a restricted car license but something happened and I fell in love with motorbikes and all of a sudden didn't really give a shit about cars anymore so I went and got my bike learners, Maybe from that you could understand why I wanted power because at that stage I had no idea about bikes and all I could think of was how fucking slow scooters are.

PS. Don't forget 250cc's don't have a 130kph first gear, So you can take them up to peak power within a few metres but yeah even then theres no G's when you pull.

TBH the main thing for me wasn't the higher output, but was a pleasant surprise hence I didn't list it first. It was more the fact that when I jumped on a GT250R I couldn't move it anywhere, Then jumped on the GPX, and wheeled it out and about while sitting on it with the engine off, I knew which one I was getting.

Some people above really know how to pick things out of context dude. It was never about power alone, ofcourse If it was I would have gotten a 2nd hand 2 smoker or an IL4

Weaver
30th October 2007, 19:33
Are you trying to tell me GPX's rated 38HP vs Hyo's rated 28HP is all false? And that the GPX is not liquid cooled nor has bigger carbs & higher compression?


Some people above really know how to pick things out of context dude. It was never about power alone, ofcourse If it was I would have gotten a 2nd hand 2 smoker or an IL4


It seems that you have taken what I said out of centext. What I was getting at in regards to power is that, when its such a small amout, weather it be 28 or 38, its not worth even talking about. LIke Pancakes said, if you want power, get a bigger bike.


Anyway, at the end of the day it comes down to how the bike feels to you.

dave_a
31st October 2007, 12:18
price on the new ninjas will now be around 9 grand maybe abit less :gob:
and MIGHT be here by christmas

Plus Im prety sure there only coming in green but well see :yes:

delusionz
31st October 2007, 12:56
price on the new ninjas will now be around 9 grand maybe abit less :gob:
and MIGHT be here by christmas

Plus Im prety sure there only coming in green but well see :yes:

No idea where these rumours are coming from but why doesn't Kawasaki NZ list it on their website yet along with their other 2008 models... and Why the hell does Kawasaki AU list the GPX250R under supersport along the ZX-6R, 10R & 14R?

dave_a
31st October 2007, 18:47
I duno you seem to be the king of making up bullshiit why dont you tell me buddy

Pancakes
31st October 2007, 21:09
I duno you seem to be the king of making up bullshiit why dont you tell me buddy


Hahahahah thats rough but... +1 for making me laugh out loud!

edit... you must spread some rep around blah blah.

EnzoYug
31st October 2007, 22:07
Better colour scheme...
:P

I commute roughly 40-70k's a day as my job requires site visits. That'd be a horrible thing to do to any 'performance' bike. Any bike with grunt at all.

And I've already been hit twice on push bikes and nearly punched the clock on my old FXR - for me speed in the city just gets you killed faster.

I'll buy my flatmates Fireblade if I want speed for the weekends, after the last two he binned he'll need my $$.

Long story short - Hyo's aren't about power. They're about very cheap, very good looking sporty commuting. The GPX looks like it fell straight out of the 80's - but I'm sure it is faster.

Weaver
31st October 2007, 22:39
edit... you must spread some rep around blah blah.

Fucken you knows it

+1 for you too

discotex
1st November 2007, 08:51
The GPX looks like it fell straight out of the 80's

That might be because it *did* fall straight out of the 80's :wari:

rphenix
1st November 2007, 18:01
The GPX looks like it fell straight out of the 80's - but I'm sure it is faster.


You sure? When I demo rode one I thought it was pretty powerless. I have to admit I didnt really test it that well a few trips around the block up a hill etc.. didnt even go on the motorway with it so it might be good top end compared to the hyo. Im not exactly lite so maybe for those who are stick thin it goes like the shit?

I do agree with the comment though about who cares how fast it is :) yes it does look good it sits on the road well and be it a gv, gt, or gtr a very comfortable riding position (for me at least).