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Dilligaf
7th September 2007, 12:59
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10462187


The cemetery was protected under Maori law, so nothing could be done without consultation.

Hmm okay, so breaking the "Pakeha" law in getting the body to the North Island is okay but we daren't go against Maori law?

I am watching this one with interest...

The Pastor
7th September 2007, 13:19
there is two sets of laws in this counrty? I didnt know that!

Finn
7th September 2007, 13:20
Ranginui Walker said the following:

“It’s time Maori learned they live with Pakeha law.

“Before they do such a thing as hi-jacking the body, they should check out the law. It was done in ignorance.”

While fighting over a body was honourable to Maori, it was clear that widows had the final say at burial, Professor Walker said.

While this is obvious, the only issue I see is the use of the term "Pakeha law". There is no such thing, just New Zealand Law.

SPman
7th September 2007, 13:25
While fighting over a body was honourable to Maori,..Just had this explained to me by my Maori cozzies - the bigger the fight over the body, the more mana.
So, where does this put KB?

Dilligaf
7th September 2007, 13:28
While this is obvious, the only issue I see is the use of the term "Pakeha law". There is no such thing, just New Zealand Law.

Hence my watching this with interest...

Laughable how people so close can't see their hypocrisy - obey my law while i Sh*t all over yours...

Macktheknife
7th September 2007, 17:43
What 'Maori Law'?
I was not aware that there was any such thing in our legislation, anyone else?

More mana for fighting over a corpse...hmmmmm
I see a shit-fight coming.

Delerium
7th September 2007, 18:04
This type fo shit fight doesnt help anybody. It also makes your average person angry and raises dissention amongst the population. I dont think these actions will have cuased them much positive feeling amongst white nz citizens.

I beleive in one law for all, not differnt rules becuase you happen to be of different ethnicity. This type of thing makes me pretty angry and it fosters fellings of discontnent, and strenghtens stereotypes.

98tls
7th September 2007, 18:06
Ranginui Walker said the following:

“It’s time Maori learned they live with Pakeha law.

“Before they do such a thing as hi-jacking the body, they should check out the law. It was done in ignorance.”

While fighting over a body was honourable to Maori, it was clear that widows had the final say at burial, Professor Walker said.

While this is obvious, the only issue I see is the use of the term "Pakeha law". There is no such thing, just New Zealand Law. Well said,bling sent.

MisterD
7th September 2007, 18:42
It's going to be interesting when the polis arrive to reclaim that particular piece of stolen property...call 0800-rent a mob

mbazza
7th September 2007, 18:46
Oh dear, I am a New Zealander and think relationships are important. Cheers.

98tls
7th September 2007, 18:50
As an average Kiwi bloke and a :girlfight:pakeha this maori law shit pisses me off,i sometimes wonder if the average maori bloke feels the same WTF is wrong with just being New Zealanders and getting on with it.

candor
7th September 2007, 23:36
I've had this happen. Unfortunately both sides are right. Its not about one law or another lore, though thats what people use to justify their "rights" when all else fails. I hate to see bodies treated as property but Maori tend to do this more than us I find - even with living whanau.

It needs to get sorted thru respectful painful communication. Best solution I can see is for the widow to move to Opotiki. She knew she was with a Maori going on his photo - so this may mean a readjustment of ideas, even now.

The immediate family is only what 3 or 4 - they need to think of the ?50 or 60 up North living plus the hundreds dead and buried who were waiting for him to join them - imo.

Using cops and lawyers against her kids blood rellys aint a good look for US PAKEHA imo. Never mind whats being done on other side of fence (out of affection no doubt). Moral of story - if ya don't want a body fight don't go with a Maori. Ignorance can be no excuse after Billy T!

canarlee
7th September 2007, 23:46
all live under one law? YES!


as someone once said (who i cant remember but they were famous at the time)....."lets all fuck each other till we are the same color, then we wont have any of these problems"


that idea works for me............unfortunately it is an idea that wont work.