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Goblin
8th September 2007, 10:14
Yestarday I found a small child, about 2 years old, climbing onto my trampoline. He was wearing a grey scivy and a black t-shirt and was accompanied by a small light coloured puppy wearing a pink collar with a love heart buckle. I asked him where his mummy is. I couldnt understand his reply. I asked him where he lives and started walking towards the carport. I told him to show me where he lives. He took me part way down my driveway & onto my mum's lawn & over her property, down her drive to the next house. He then took me over broken glass and dogshit & up the stairs to find a pigs trotter, a colouring in book & some felts, a pushbike, a ball and a bouncey bear kind of a toy.

I knocked on the ranch slider quite hard and yelled "Anyone home". No reply. I then asked the boy where his mummy is. He said "bath". I tried knocking on the wooden door. No reply. I tried opening the doors. All locked.

I then left the boy while I went home and phoned the police. The boy didn't want to come with me while I did this. On reporting this kid home alone I was told a unit would be sent out and she gave me a job number incase this was resolved before they arrived.

I went back to the boy and tried knocking again. I waited for the unit to arrive and played ball with the boy and listened as he chatted about his bike and his mum's car in the garage. He took me to the shed and said that was his mum's car. We went back upstairs and waited some more.

About 45 minutes had passed since I had phoned police and I wandered over to the other side of the property where the other neighbours were sitting out the back so I asked if they knew who lived in the house. The lady of the house had just gone inside to answer the phone. About 5 minutes later she came out so I asked again if she knew the people who lived there. She said she knows the landlords but not the tenants.

I told her that the kid had turned up at my place and I couldnt find anyone at the house. She rushed over and banged on the downstairs door then ran to the side of the house and scooped up the boy. The banging on the downstairs door had arroused the mother who had been fast asleep in the upstairs bedroom. She came to the door in a dazed state and said "Naughty BOY!" when we told her that her boy had been wandering the neighbourhood all alone.

I then went back home and phoned the police back to tell them we had located the mother. I quoted the number. As I got off the phone 2 police women were walking up my stairs. I told them I had located the mother and had phoned police back. They asked me my full name, address, phone no & DOB. They said they would go talk to the mother and they may need to contact CYFS.

I left it at that but I wanted to go and talk to the mother while the police were there. As I got to the bottom of my driveway I saw the 2 police officers had pulled a car over and appeared to be issuing a ticket. I went over and talked to the mother and explained that I had no choice but to phone the police as I was worried about her wee boy. I went home again and the police were still stopped down the road with a car pulled over. I dont know if they went and spoke to the mother or not.

I just need to get this off my chest. I am NOT cop bashing here but I do wonder if traffic fines are more important than a home alone case.

yungatart
8th September 2007, 10:19
Unbelievable!
Who could leave a 2y/o unattended for that length of time?
Lucky he wandered to your place and not off down the road...
You did the right thing!
I guess there is more revenue to be had in traffic tickets than unattended kids.

Disco Dan
8th September 2007, 10:35
I would you were quite lucky. In my experience, the mother usually gives you a right earful for interfering.

Some people should not be allowed to have children. I have always believed very strongly that if a person wishes to have a child that they have to be screened first in order to make sure they have sufficiant income and a stable household before being granted permission.

Too many children are born into poverty and unstable households full of P-addicts and drunks. The children then go on to cost the system even more when they hit school and cause problems... then again when they leave and start breaking the law... before finally costing the system even more when they get put in jail.

Start as you mean to go on. Make everyone get permission to have children. Those that dont.. fine them with a big hefty fine.

Goblin
8th September 2007, 10:40
Unbelievable!
Who could leave a 2y/o unattended for that length of time?
Lucky he wandered to your place and not off down the road...
You did the right thing!
I guess there is more revenue to be had in traffic tickets than unattended kids.These neighbours have all night "rapping" parties, they smash beer bottles all over the road, they walk up and down the road at all hours yelling "Zeik Fuckin Hail" and are nothing but trouble. I didnt want to be involved! I now fear they will be calling me a nark and could cause a heap of trouble for me and my mum who lives next door to them.
This neighbourhood is so depressing!:crybaby:

Sidewinder
8th September 2007, 10:43
These neighbours have all night "rapping" parties, they smash beer bottles all over the road, they walk up and down the road at all hours yelling "Zeik Fuckin Hail" and are nothing but trouble. I didnt want to be involved! I now fear they will be calling me a nark and could cause a heap of trouble for me and my mum who lives next door to them.
This neighbourhood is so depressing!:crybaby:

shut up and leave me alone:love:

u4ea
8th September 2007, 11:12
Good on you Goblin.You were only doing what any other decent person would do.It is only going to draw more negative attention to these mungrels if they start to harrass you and yours as CYF arent aware of problems until they are reported.The cops involved didnt show any concern by the sounds of it but Im sure they still have to document the visit somewhere and it went through coms. as well.

caesius
8th September 2007, 11:18
Good on you. Indifference seems prevalent nowadays, it must've been tough to actually "investigate" that matter in that neighborhood.

janno
8th September 2007, 11:23
Poor you having people like that next door. And poor baby boy being born in to that. I'm so lucky that I've got great neighbours where I am, and they own their houses.

Can you find out who owns the place, I wonder, and let them know what drop kick tennants they have? If they have property managers, they may have been given the impression that everything is rosy.

I bet people like that will be trashing the place . . .

yungatart
8th September 2007, 11:28
These neighbours have all night "rapping" parties, they smash beer bottles all over the road, they walk up and down the road at all hours yelling "Zeik Fuckin Hail" and are nothing but trouble. I didnt want to be involved! I now fear they will be calling me a nark and could cause a heap of trouble for me and my mum who lives next door to them.
This neighbourhood is so depressing!:crybaby:

Which makes your actions all the more commendable!
Good Luck!
Hopefully your neighbours have insufficient active braincells to remember who you are.....

Riff Raff
8th September 2007, 11:29
Unfortunately it's all too common these days for parents to do this. I once had two toddlers walk out into the road in front of my ambulance. They were both wearing nappies and one was barely walking. Neither could talk so I called the Police and then started banging on doors to try and find where they lived. An elderly lady was outside one house doing her gardening and said the children had been wandering around for over an hour, but she didn't do anything about it!!!

Eventually found the house and there was the father having a nap on the lounge floor. He grabbed the kids and then slammed the door in my face - charming. Fortunately the Police arrived shortly afterwards and dealt with it.

Another time had a kid walk out in front of ambulance again while going P1. No sign of adults anywhere. The house we were going to was about 200m up the road and the people there were shouting and waving at us to get there, but we were stuck with this kid. Fortunately there was another crew nearby who could respond.

Goblin
8th September 2007, 11:40
This used to be a real family neighbourhood, I grew up here and we used to know everyone in the street. I moved back here after my Grandmother couldn't cope living here alone and moved into a nursing home. My Oma's house and mums next door have been owned by my family for 40 years. There are only 2 other original families who still own their homes.

The house next to mums is looking really shabby, the lawns have never been mown, there's broken glass and dogshit everywhere and this poor kid was wandering around in bare feet with no nappy let alone pants. I've seen cleaner pig stys than that place!

I want to move down south!:crybaby:

avgas
8th September 2007, 11:59
This is one cycle that will never be broken.
Are people like that worth keeping alive? Im not saying "kill them all", more making a rhetorical question.
Kind like the whole if a tree falls and noone hears it etc

Grub
8th September 2007, 12:10
I am NOT cop bashing here but I do wonder if traffic fines are more important than a home alone case.

I think what you did was great but I wonder at the tone of your post. It is more indignant about the cops than about the mother who was not caring for her child!

If you're not cop-bashing, then you needed to determine if the cops did finally go and talk to the mother before berating their actions. Think about it, maybe they saw someone drive past that there's a Warrant out for. Even if it was just a traffic stop (unlikely unless they were doing something really bad) that offender would have disappeared - the mother was still there and not going anywhere.

Cops don't write tickets (if that's what they were doing) to people who are just lawfully driving down the road do they.

Her_C4
8th September 2007, 12:43
Goblin you rpost has taken me back nearly 30 years!! :blink: Some things in NZ have been this way for many years and obviously have not changed.

I used to live on Brougham Street in ChCh (very busy - even then), and I had come home from shopping one day leaving the back door open as I was putting the groceries away.

Imagine my shock when I turned around to see a very young (2 year old) sitting on the floor sucking her thumb and looking at me through very soulful eyes, set in a very grubby face with a runny nose. Her hair was unkempt and she was in a pair of pyjama's that had seen better days. Her feet were bare. It was about 2.45pm.

It took me over an hour to track down where she lived, and when I finally did I politely informed the mother (who wouldn't even come to the door) that her daughter had wandered down the street to my home and that I was concerned.

I won't go into details, but suffice to say that her response was decidedly less than polite and I had an overwhelming desire to take the child back to my own place and call the police - so I did.

The mother never followed.

The police took the child home.

End of story.

Goblin
8th September 2007, 13:14
I think what you did was great but I wonder at the tone of your post. It is more indignant about the cops than about the mother who was not caring for her child!

If you're not cop-bashing, then you needed to determine if the cops did finally go and talk to the mother before berating their actions. Think about it, maybe they saw someone drive past that there's a Warrant out for. Even if it was just a traffic stop (unlikely unless they were doing something really bad) that offender would have disappeared - the mother was still there and not going anywhere.

Cops don't write tickets (if that's what they were doing) to people who are just lawfully driving down the road do they.I called the police thinking they would arrive in a timely manner to deal with a small child who'd been left unattented. Nearly an hour had passed but they seemed to think a traffic matter, or warrant or whatever was more important than dealing with this mother. I was in MY own home when this child came to MY place. I did not ask this kid to seek me out to find out where his mother was. I thought the police would have come and told ME if they had dealt with the matter or not. Why should it be up to me to go and find out? It's their JOB not mine! I look after my own kids....Im not some drop-in center for toddlers whose mothers are too tired to look after their children.

u4ea
8th September 2007, 13:32
I called the police thinking they would arrive in a timely manner to deal with a small child who'd been left unattented. Nearly an hour had passed but they seemed to think a traffic matter, or warrant or whatever was more important than dealing with this mother. I was in MY own home when this child came to MY place. I did not ask this kid to seek me out to find out where his mother was. I thought the police would have come and told ME if they had dealt with the matter or not. Why should it be up to me to go and find out? It's their JOB not mine! I look after my own kids....Im not some drop-in center for toddlers whose mothers are too tired to look after their children.

I totally agree there chiky!!!
You would think that with all the hype that the police"discretion" for child neglect reporting to CYF would be applied in this case!!!Sounds like the dog was better treated than the child with its pretty pink collar while the child was unnatended and bare bottomed!!NOT GOOD ENUFF

Harry33
8th September 2007, 13:32
I hate to say it but it's becoming the norm these days for some parents (if you can call them that) to not bring up their kids properly. I see this all the time at my wifes work (she works at a local Leisure Centre) where there is young kids roaming around unsupervised to atleast 10pm.

When I say young I'm talking between the ages or 8 to 15. There parents just give them a few dollars and send them on there way. I guess they don't really give a shit as long as they aren't stopping them from having fun etc.

Most of the time they have to find there own way home as well so I guess mum and dad don't really care about all the stranger dangers out there.

The big worry as far as I'm concerned is they start hanging out with the wrong people and learn to do all the bad shit you read about in the local papers.

Who do you blame the bad little shits or the parents?

Goblin
8th September 2007, 14:11
I hate to say it but it's becoming the norm these days for some parents (if you can call them that) to not bring up their kids properly.

Who do you blame the bad little shits or the parents?It's the cycle of abuse and neglect. When kids of abusive parents grow up thinking thats the "norm", they carry on the cycle when they have their own kids. Looking after kids is not that difficult. Im not saying my parents were perfect...far from it. My first 10 years of life was living in total fear of our father who used to beat the shit out of us and was a total bastard! When I had my daughter I knew I HAD to break the cycle so I did parenting courses and even went to anger management. I chose not to bring up my kids the way I was. EVERY person has the choice! There are no excuses for neglect and abuse. If you cant look after your kids they should be put up for adoption and placed with people who DO want to be parents. In saying that, money, or lack of it is no excuse either. We dont have very much but we are well fed, warm and happy.

Harry33
8th September 2007, 14:21
It's the cycle of abuse and neglect. When kids of abusive parents grow up thinking thats the "norm", they carry on the cycle when they have their own kids. Looking after kids is not that difficult. Im not saying my parents were perfect...far from it. My first 10 years of life was living in total fear of our father who used to beat the shit out of us and sexually abuse me and my sister. When I had my daughter I knew I HAD to break the cycle so I did parenting courses and even went to anger management. I chose not to bring up my kids the way I was. EVERY person has the choice! There are no excuses for neglect and abuse. If you cant look after your kids they should be put up for adoption and placed with people who DO want to be parents. In saying that, money, or lack of it is no excuse either. We dont have very much but we are well fed, warm and happy.

Your right know matter how shitty your childhood is you can always rise above and break the circle :rockon:

Winston001
8th September 2007, 14:38
I think what you did was great but I wonder at the tone of your post. It is more indignant about the cops than about the mother who was not caring for her child!



I disagree. Goblin has shown real concern and a sense of social responsibility. It is entirely reasonable for her to expect the officers to let her know what the ongoing results of her report will be. Not details, but at least a word of thanks and some reassurance that CYPS have been notified etc.

I'm not too troubled either about the traffic stop, just surprised that the officers didn't communicate more with Goblin. The police need to encourage and praise responsible citizens.

Maybe the reality is that the police see so much of this that they are simply bone weary of the reports. Too many bad parents, too few helpers.

ajturbo
8th September 2007, 15:03
Unbelievable!
Who could leave a 2y/o unattended for that length of time?
Lucky he wandered to your place and not off down the road...
You did the right thing!
I guess there is more revenue to be had in traffic tickets than unattended kids.

yer .. i would have tied him to the cloths pole.. that way he could run around in circles!!!

and not gone wondering the streets look for a good wall to tag:nono:


shit matey you have done that poor kid a great big favour!! good on you!...

i was going to bitch about the cops pulling the car over but you, the quota etc debate.... had to pay for YOUR callout!!.. watch you'll have a bill in the mail next week....... :bash:

Holy Roller
8th September 2007, 15:04
I hate to say it but it's becoming the norm these days for some parents (if you can call them that) to not bring up their kids properly. I see this all the time at my wifes work (she works at a local Leisure Centre) where there is young kids roaming around unsupervised to atleast 10pm.

Who do you blame the bad little shits or the parents?

I used to manage an intertainment centre in Rotovegas and it was not just the underpriviledged kids who were neglected.
Case in point
A wealthy parent large car, colour coordinated boat off fishing for the day leaves 12 yr old son at my centre with $100 and says he will be back to pick him up. We closed at 10pm and no sign of his father, 1am the old man turns up to get his son.

Why he did not take his son is beyond me as the boy was keen to go with him, What did he expect the boy to do between closing and his picking him up? My wife was with me that night so we stayed to make sure the kid was ok. This father seemed to give plenty of money but no time. The kid just brought friends or so it seemed.

ynot slow
8th September 2007, 18:34
Similar thing last Sunday,went for a ride,went and had a beer in arvo and wife was playing pokies,another lady in there,we were outside and a kid about 6 was in a car,kid then came into bar and asked for mum to go to loo,barstaff were not amused,lady then went home with kid and seemed pissed off that her day was ruined.And no she was not young or maori so don't relate this to race,she was the kids adopted mum.Not your usual steriotype mum gambling with kid in the car,as the papers would have us believe.

inlinefour
8th September 2007, 19:23
This neighbourhood is so depressing!:crybaby:

These sort of people do not tend to stay in one place for very long at all. They tend to burn their bridges, get told they have to move on, then get all upset that this has happened. Just the sort of individuals that no one wants in their neighbourhood, but everyone is happy to see the back of. You might possibly be the one they are annoyed with today, but I suspect in a short peroid of time there will be someone else that their attention changes to.

FROSTY
8th September 2007, 21:09
Every situation is different though folks.
I remember when baby bikie was 2 years old I'd put him down for a nap.
I checked on him and he was fast asleep
Great I thought I can get a solid half hours work on a customers bike.
That I did then checked in on baby bikie--but the lil sod had flown the coop.
I found him 4 houses up playing on their swingset.

Goblin
9th September 2007, 07:55
Well I was woken up at 7.20am by said neighbours still partying and yelling "wake up!". They're at the roadside still drinking and the mothers voice is the loudest! They've been going all night again. No sign of the kid.
I hate living here. Suburban neurosis has set in.:weep:

Vagabond
9th September 2007, 08:19
Hang in there matey, I know it's not always easy but things always get better with time!
and after a period you'll be thinking why did I react so badly, was it really that bad!

And please I'm not trying to say you don't have it bad!

Hang in! You strike me as a survivor!

All the best
Colin.

Goblin
9th September 2007, 08:40
I have no choice but to hang in there. I moved in here in December 05. For ten years before that I lived in the country and really miss the peace and quiet. I miss the bellbirds and the tuis and the friendly, hard working neighbours who would look out for each other. I miss my chooks and my sheep and the homekilled meat we used to share with the neighbours. :weep:
My rego runs out on my bike tomorrow so I am going to take my boys for a ride down to Taupo for the day. Its a bit overcast and it will probably rain but its better than staying here and listening to that crap all day. :(

smoky
9th September 2007, 08:51
Cops don't write tickets (if that's what they were doing) to people who are just lawfully driving down the road do they.

What ideological utopian world do you live in? Obviously not the real world.

smoky
9th September 2007, 09:21
Good on ya for taking an interest. You never know, from your contact the police may of contacted CYFs, you may of started some intervention that will prevent a further tragedy in your neck of the woods, you think they’d be taking that sort of thing a bit more seriously since the last terrible incident in Rotorua.
I see that kind of thing everyday in my job, I get involved with a rang of social working agencies – there is certainly enough help available for people.
I have to say most cops do care – but have suffered a certain amount of desensitisation toward this kind of behaviour. It all depends which cop gets the call as to how they’ll deal with it – if they do.

I’ve got to know a few of the police; and pick who I talk to depending on the action I need to happen – talk to an older hard arse if I need to put pressure on, or talk to a tree hugger cop if I need some help dealing with these kind of problems in families

PM me the detals (address of the house) if you want to and I'll pass it on to the right person or;
ring 0508 FAMILY (0508 326 459)

http://www.cyf.govt.nz/SuspectAbuse.htm

Goblin
9th September 2007, 10:06
Good on ya for taking an interest. You never know, from your contact the police may of contacted CYFs, you may of started some intervention that will prevent a further tragedy in your neck of the woods, you think they’d be taking that sort of thing a bit more seriously since the last terrible incident in Rotorua.
I see that kind of thing everyday in my job, I get involved with a rang of social working agencies – there is certainly enough help available for people.
I have to say most cops do care – but have suffered a certain amount of desensitisation toward this kind of behaviour. It all depends which cop gets the call as to how they’ll deal with it – if they do.The problem is that I didnt take an interest...I was just going about my business when this kid came to my place. I couldnt just tell it to go away! Also the cops around here are probably desensitised to this sort of thing and now I will be labelled a nark and a busy-body. I do not want to be involved with these scumbags. I didnt even know they had a child! They are mongrel mob associates so the social working angencies dont want a bar of it either. I dont think the child is being abused so they wont do anything anyway. As has been proven in this area, no one wants to do anything until it's too late and then it's blame the neighbours for not taking any action.
A good friend of mine lived directly in front of Nia's house until about a week before she was tortured. He and his daughter used to look out for all the little kids in the area. His daughter is 16 and was devistated to hear that it was her little friend Nia who was in hospital. They were evicted because a neighbour complained about loud music!

Im going to suggest to my mum that we sell up and move away from here. This place is doing my head in.:crybaby:

Grub
9th September 2007, 18:02
What ideological utopian world do you live in? Obviously not the real world.

Oh FFS, you're now suggesting that people not breaking the law get tickets? What conspiracy theory are you living in?

smoky
9th September 2007, 19:33
Oh FFS, you're now suggesting that people not breaking the law get tickets? What conspiracy theory are you living in?

I guess I should be berated and ridiculed for even suggesting the police may occasionally harass, ticket or charge innocent people.
I don’t remember saying anything about a conspiracy though?

The police are only human, and prone to the same fallibilities. I’ve been ticketed for doing something I didn’t do, I stuck to my guns and had three hearings on it, the cops arrogantly refused to admit they had it wrong. The case ended up in the high court – where I won.
Last year I witnessed a fellow KB’er get ticketed for 130kmhr – I know for a fact the cop got the wrong bike – no conspiracy, he just got it wrong.
Do I have to mention Arthur Thomas or David Bain – but you probably think the cops got those right as well!
:no:

smoky
9th September 2007, 19:51
The problem is that I didnt take an interest...I was just going about my business when this kid came to my place. I couldnt just tell it to go away!

Well thats caring...... sort of, kinda!deep down maybe!


I do not want to be involved with these scumbags.
Im going to suggest to my mum that we sell up and move away from here. This place is doing my head in.

Sounds like a good move - good luck.
Any idea where you think you might be heading to

Goblin
9th September 2007, 19:54
Oh FFS, you're now suggesting that people not breaking the law get tickets? What conspiracy theory are you living in?Stranger things have happened Grub!

Goblin
9th September 2007, 19:56
Sounds like a good move - good luck.
Any idea where you think you might be heading toI need to go have a look first.:confused:

Patrick
10th September 2007, 13:50
Do I have to mention Arthur Thomas or David Bain – but you probably think the cops got those right as well!
:no:

Done to death already, and, (since I can't help meself...) for the record,

Yes, I do... THOMAS, not soooo sure, but a lawyer friend said he was guilty as sin... as for BAIN, especially BAIN... a mass murderer celebrity... go figure... but off topic...

Good work Goblin, but couldn't help thinking that the call you made reached them just as you also told them as well that mum was found and all was good, so they thought carry on, business as usual...

EDIT: Should have seen her tho... and done the usual cursory visual checks to see if all was in order...

sunhuntin
10th September 2007, 14:09
I dont think the child is being abused so they wont do anything anyway.

the child is being neglected [wandering the neighbourhood alone and essentially naked, locked out of the house while "mum" sleeps] neglect is abuse. not providing the 5 basic necessities is abuse [shelter, food, clothes, love and i forget the last one]

i do think the police should have arrived sooner and spoken to the mother, not gone chasing a possible warrent being out of date.

we have a rental over the road... most recently occupied by mongrel mob [big huge patched guy helped em move in.] they seem to have vanished, but in the months they were there, they had constant fights [ambos called out at least once] parties, cars everywhere, and two dogs that rushed me as i went to work one afternoon. the house is a state house, and dogs are not permitted. i called the ranger on that one, and never heard back. and yes, there were young children involved, as well as mystery kids appearing in our immediate neighbours backyards.

give em a few more weeks, and chances are they will move out of their own accord.

terbang
10th September 2007, 14:35
These neighbours have all night "rapping" parties, they smash beer bottles all over the road, they walk up and down the road at all hours yelling "Zeik Fuckin Hail"

Hmm, that explains all doesn't it. Well at least there is one responsible person living in the street. Big ups to ya Kelly for doing the right thing. Bit worried about those cops though doing traffic stuff after being called out to a domestic issue.

mstriumph
10th September 2007, 14:53
sick thing to think, mebbe .... but the police have prolly been called to so many similar events, and failed so many times to achieve anything that improves the situation, that they have become totally desensitised and have given up and gone for the easy option ...

after all, nearly all traffic tickets are concluded sucessfully from a police point of view - i suspect that situations concerning domestic chaos and parential neglect seldom are? :mellow:

............must be difficult for them to keep on caring, keep on trying?

kave
10th September 2007, 19:14
These neighbours have all night "rapping" parties, they smash beer bottles all over the road, they walk up and down the road at all hours yelling "Zeik Fuckin Hail" and are nothing but trouble.
Rap music plus nazi imagery, that normally means Mongrel Mob. I assume when you wrote

Zeik Fuckin Hail
You meant "Sieg fuckin' heil"? not being a spelling nazi, just confirming that that is what was being sent. Seig Heil is the mongrel mobs gang slogan.

Goblin
10th September 2007, 19:32
Rap music plus nazi imagery, that normally means Mongrel Mob. I assume when you wrote

You meant "Sieg fuckin' heil"? not being a spelling nazi, just confirming that that is what was being sent. Seig Heil is the mongrel mobs gang slogan.
Yeah whatever it is, it's ferkin wrong! That poor we boy being dragged up in that environment...he was actually a cute wee fulla with big soulful eyes and as chatty and friendly as you like. Shame his mother cant be arsed looking after him.

Ocean1
10th September 2007, 19:52
Few years ago a nipper in nappies turned up at my place, just walked up while I was building a fence and said "hello". Looked around for mum, no sign. Took her inside and got her a softdrink and a biscuit then picked her up and walked up the street looking for panic-stricken parents. Knocked on a few doors, nothing, so I walked up the other way. Got a good half a click before someone finally said "Oh that's so-and-so's kid, they live over the road". Went and knocked on the door. Young Asian woman came and was utterly gobsmacked, nipper had been asleep in her bedroom and had escaped out the window without a sound :laugh:

Saw the kid several times afterwards, mum used to walk down our way of a weekend and the girl would insist on calling in to say g'day. Used to stock the same biscuits just for the occasion. They moved away a year or so later. Nipper'd be in her early teens now, not sure if I ever knew her real name.

sunhuntin
10th September 2007, 21:23
Yeah whatever it is, it's ferkin wrong! That poor we boy being dragged up in that environment...he was actually a cute wee fulla with big soulful eyes and as chatty and friendly as you like. Shame his mother cant be arsed looking after him.

unfortunatly, for some, kids are nothing more than a money bringer. thats it. my mum cleans a place that does courses for youth drop outs [all govt funded] and she oftens tells of the young girls who openly say they will be preg by 18 so they dont have to work.

my brothers root has 4 kids, 2 his, and 2 not. quite often she will up and vanish, leaving him with all 4 kids, and often no supplies [naps, baby food etc] i havent met the youngest, who is only a few months old, but am quite prepared to give up my life for the almost 2 year old girl. [and im not in the slightest bit clucky, and hate the thought of giving up my bike and job, but i would do anything to give this girl the life she deserves.]

emaN
10th September 2007, 21:44
good job done Gob.
sucks bout the standards slipping in the neighbourhood tho. i know a rental being readied at the moment (i re-wired it) (no,nothin's blown up!) on the other side of the park from me. lemme know if you're keen. could be a 'temporary stop gap' while you decide what to do?

patrick patrick patrick; 'heads being buried in sand' comes to mind.

Goblin
10th September 2007, 22:44
...nipper had been asleep in her bedroom and had escaped out the window without a sound :laugh:
:lol: I remember when my girl disappeared when she was 2. My sister and I had searched the house and section...she went up the road while I went down the road calling her name. No sign of her. Pannic set in and I was boardering on hysterical. :wacko: searched the house again and found her under her bed with her face covered in vivid! :lol:
Kids eh?

Ocean1
10th September 2007, 23:08
found her under her bed with her face covered in vivid! :lol:
Kids eh?

Hiding from mum eh? Still, better the face than the freshly painted godam bedroom walls. Orta be a law...

Goblin
10th September 2007, 23:11
give em a few more weeks, and chances are they will move out of their own accord.This is what Im hoping will happen. I found out the landlord lives in Chch and has no idea what state the place is in. No doubt she will be in arreas in the rent so might get kicked out sooner than later.


sick thing to think, mebbe .... but the police have prolly been called to so many similar events, and failed so many times to achieve anything that improves the situation, that they have become totally desensitised and have given up and gone for the easy option ...

after all, nearly all traffic tickets are concluded sucessfully from a police point of view - i suspect that situations concerning domestic chaos and parential neglect seldom are? :mellow:

............must be difficult for them to keep on caring, keep on trying?Sick and sad but so true!



good job done Gob.
sucks bout the standards slipping in the neighbourhood tho. i know a rental being readied at the moment (i re-wired it) (no,nothin's blown up!) on the other side of the park from me. lemme know if you're keen. could be a 'temporary stop gap' while you decide what to do?
No worries Dood. When I do move it will be back out in the sticks. Far enough out of town that the bike gets to warm up to get there.:soon:

Goblin
10th September 2007, 23:39
Hiding from mum eh? Still, better the face than the freshly painted godam bedroom walls. Orta be a law...:laugh: Murphy's bloody law!
Around the same time she got hold of my lipstick and drew all over the mirror, dressing table, wallpaper, my pillow, duvet and all over her face...its a girl thing eh. She was so proud of herself. :laugh:

Patrick
11th September 2007, 11:41
patrick patrick patrick; 'heads being buried in sand' comes to mind.

Yep... aint that the truth... seems many hundreds have been sucked in by the Karam's Killer Kid show...:Pokey:

sunhuntin
11th September 2007, 12:50
This is what Im hoping will happen. I found out the landlord lives in Chch and has no idea what state the place is in. No doubt she will be in arreas in the rent so might get kicked out sooner than later.


with any luck. is there any way you can contact the owner? maybe via the real estate agent or something?

the rental across from us has had nothing buy shite renters... last one left her cat behind [and he got adopted by our immediate neighbour] and had people knocking on our door looking for her. she literally up and left... left everything behind. took PAE about a month to tidy inside and out... and im willing to bet the condition is about as bad again.
funny but the rental next door to them has had nothing but good neighbours. young guys in last that had dogs and dirtbikes, but were quiet and respectful, and what appears to be a young solo mum at the moment. again, very quiet.

judecatmad
11th September 2007, 13:16
Unbelievable!
Who could leave a 2y/o unattended for that length of time?
Lucky he wandered to your place and not off down the road...
You did the right thing!
I guess there is more revenue to be had in traffic tickets than unattended kids.

And thank god he found you and not some freaky weird sort who might have taken advantage. Poor wee lad. And how can mum call him naughty? He would have no understanding at that age.

You definitely did the right thing - well done!

As for the police issuing tickets - was it definitely them who had been called to this 'job'? I remember stopping at an accident just down the hill from Parnell a few years ago where a woman had been run over and was lying in the middle of the very busy road. A police car sped past with all sirens going, didn't even look at the accident. When I phoned to complain about that, I was told that they were on their way to another job and weren't allowed to stop......seems the police aren't allowed to get involved with the thinking about priorities side of things any more (and this from a policeman's daughter.....).

emaN
11th September 2007, 18:08
...sucked in by the Karam's Killer Kid show...:Pokey:
rather than Karam, i was more thinking of the (meaty) allegations the Dunedin police (ex and current) are facing at the mo'... not to mention Howard Broad.

Back to topic; will be sorry to see ya go Gob, and i'll be envious of ya!

Goblin
11th September 2007, 19:07
Well, I got home this arvo and as I was unloading the car I hear yelling and banging coming from down the road. Couldnt make it out but next thing a van full of red hoody wearing mongrels, and towing a horse float stops in the middle of the intersection right oposite my house. They are yelling "PUT YOUR WEAPONS DOWN! PUT YOUR WEAPONS DOWN!!!" I told my boys to get upstairs and stay inside! They yelling continued along with "SEIG FUKIN HAIL!" Then they drove off.:eek5:
There goes the neighbourhood!

Patrick
12th September 2007, 00:46
rather than Karam, i was more thinking of the (meaty) allegations the Dunedin police (ex and current) are facing at the mo'... not to mention Howard Broad.

Back to topic; will be sorry to see ya go Gob, and i'll be envious of ya!

The chicken movie? That was soooo last century....

Poor Goblin, sounds like a right shithole at the mo... was the banging from weapons? Cops called????

emaN
12th September 2007, 19:22
he he...that video is the least of their worries!
let's just say that if they chose to hang with Gob's neighbours they'd be in the right company

Goblin
13th September 2007, 20:25
sounds like a right shithole at the mo... was the banging from weapons? Cops called????Why call cops? The hoodies had already driven away and the cops dont want to get involved in gang warfare anyway.

Patrick
14th September 2007, 00:20
Why call cops? The hoodies had already driven away and the cops dont want to get involved in gang warfare anyway.

Sigh........:brick:

Can't get involved if they aren't told about it now, can they....???

Disco Dan
14th September 2007, 12:18
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