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gw555
14th September 2007, 08:09
After reading the bagging that Hyosungs get I thought I would post my experiences of owning one:
Bought in July 06 new
As at 13 September 07 done >42000km
9000km new rear shock and cdi unit under warranty
11700 new chain and front brake pads
24000 one fork seal
26000 new rear tyre
34000 new rear brake pads
35000 new front tyre
36000 new chain and sprockets
I get this serviced every 4000km as recommended by Hyosung, and have never had any trouble with it and in fact am contemplating buying another
EJT
14th September 2007, 08:17
Yep happy with mine. The only little problem I have had with mine (coming up to 10k so early days) is the chainguard fell off - oh and the boot got jammed. Both minor
Drum
14th September 2007, 08:17
Hey, I'm not bagging the Hysosung, but doesn't a new rear shock and CDI at 9000 k's count as 'trouble'?
gw555
14th September 2007, 08:22
I dont think it does really. I think most new bikes have something go wrong and at the time the cdi units were a known problem, they have been fixed now
McJim
14th September 2007, 08:23
My Ducati recommended service intervals are every 10,000km - making it cheaper to run than a Hyosung GT250R.....
madmal64
14th September 2007, 08:37
Wow! 26000 out of a rear tyre Im lucky if I get 10000:bleh:
Im sure there are 1 too many zeros in those numbers.
Even so its still good motoring. Glad to hear you are happy with it.
karmakillernz
14th September 2007, 08:41
Wow! 35000 out of a rear tyre Im lucky if I get 10000:bleh:
Im sure there are 1 too many zeros in those numbers.
Apparently the tyres that come with the Hyosungs are built to last for ages (at the expense of other qualities). I've heard other people say they've lasted 20,000km+ before too...
gw555
14th September 2007, 08:46
Wow! 26000 out of a rear tyre Im lucky if I get 10000:bleh:
Im sure there are 1 too many zeros in those numbers.
Even so its still good motoring. Glad to hear you are happy with it.
Yeah the stock tyres are Shinkos which are really hard compound. Only problem I found with them were when the tread wore down a bit they werent to good in the wet and it made for interesting riding, when I changed the rear I still had about 5000k left on it but the season of rain was upon me so I decided to spend the money and went for Conti Road Attack
Grub
14th September 2007, 08:48
Wow! 26000 out of a rear tyre Im lucky if I get 10000:bleh:
Ya must ride like a bogun ... I got 14,0000 out of mine commuting Paekak Hill every day :)
gw555
14th September 2007, 08:49
My Ducati recommended service intervals are every 10,000km - making it cheaper to run than a Hyosung GT250R.....
Thats one of the reasons I have been thinking about buying a 650 because the service intervals on those are 6000k and since my ks just keep ticking over.........
gw555
14th September 2007, 08:52
Ya must ride like a bogun ... I got 14,0000 out of mine commuting Paekak Hill every day :)
Its probably because my commute is 35km each way mostly on the Hutt Motorway, so there arent to many twisties on that :lol:
Also it was a Shinko which are really hard, my Conti is coming up for renewal shortly and it has done 16000
Grub
14th September 2007, 09:14
Its probably because my commute is 35km each way
Oh I wasn't referring to you as a bogun ... it was that Mal fella :devil2:
I hear you about the Shinkos. I deal for a flat ride to work and back but you're right about their safety for anything else.
skelstar
14th September 2007, 09:18
Yeah I got 20000kms out of my rear tyre on a 250 Comet.
FFS
14th September 2007, 10:42
I bought my gt650r with 1700Km on the clock, its now at 3000, thus far i have had no issues.
madmal64
14th September 2007, 11:29
Ya must ride like a bogun ... I got 14,0000 out of mine commuting Paekak Hill every day :)
Well you know me & my tyre pressures eh?:spanking:
That doesnt help the situation either
McJim
14th September 2007, 11:52
I thought I was a nana but I was only getting 10,000km out of a BT45 on the VTR250...I thought 10,000km was good going...I liked that bike - throttle only needed 2 settings - Pinned and Off.
disenfranchised
15th September 2007, 09:09
Bought in July 06 new
As at 13 September 07 done >42000km
9000km new rear shock and cdi unit under warranty
11700 new chain and front brake pads
I got my bike in July 06 too....
But thus far I'm only approaching the 6000k mark...
That's a 20k round trip commute every day, plus a couple of weekend jaunts
Saying that I had my front brake pad replaced at my last warrant, just after my 5000k service. Seemed to have worn out exceptionally quick
gw555
17th September 2007, 07:25
Saying that I had my front brake pad replaced at my last warrant, just after my 5000k service. Seemed to have worn out exceptionally quick
Yeah, 5000k doesnt sound like alot, I am due to get my third set next service ie 44000k so i appear to be getting twice as many ks as you. Although most of my riding is in 100k zones so I am not using the brakes that much.
Coyote
17th September 2007, 07:37
Wow! 26000 out of a rear tyre Im lucky if I get 10000:bleh:
Mine's almost dead at 5000, and I haven't been doing burnouts :blink:
Stupid 18" wheel stopping me from getting harder inside compound tyres
disenfranchised
17th September 2007, 07:43
Yeah, 5000k doesnt sound like alot, I am due to get my third set next service ie 44000k so i appear to be getting twice as many ks as you. Although most of my riding is in 100k zones so I am not using the brakes that much.
Yeah 50k/h commute means I'm covering the brakes almost all the time.
The pads were changed to something other than the standard Hyosung factory ones...so I'll see how long the new ones last
unrealone
18th September 2007, 07:26
Jesus, 44000KMs! Ive had my gt250r almost a year now and im coming up on 11000kms. Used to commute from Tawa to wgtn breifly but the majority of owning her ive lived in central welly so usually only a 5 min commute ;)
I replaced my shinkos at my earliest convience as they were just an accident waiting to happen. Specially after I went over the hill on them, slipping and sliding - disgusting things they were.
Am running Pirellis on my bike now and feel muuuuch better :) Lets see, since I've owned mine (10th Oct '06):
- I've just had to replace an exhaust gasket - that was my own fault i think, revving a little high for too long. Made the bike sound pretty damn cool though.
- Had a cam seal replaced due to oil leak, but now that i think about it i dont think it was leaking after all, just some excess oil.
- Just called the shop about some new front brake pads as i'll be needing those shortly
- And the replacement tyres as above - which was my personal choice.
gw555
18th September 2007, 12:31
My commute is around 350-400k a week depending on whether I go to work 5 or 6 days a week. I also use the bike during the day as transport so clock between 10 and 75k for that. Rest of the ks are just going for a ride in any weather
gw555
11th October 2007, 17:18
Just thought I would update this - as at last sunday 07/01/07 clocked the 44444.4km
http://my.photodump.com/gw555/SV400141.jpg
Meekey_Mouse
11th October 2007, 17:38
Glad to hear your Hyo is going well :D
My lil project one finally passed warrant and reg yesterday! I haven't ridden it yet as it was straight back onto the trailer and to the mechanics for new tyres :banana: No way I was gunna ride in Shinkos lol
So hopefully I'll be clockin up the kms very soon :jerry::Punk:
Pancakes
11th October 2007, 18:39
Glad to hear your Hyo is going well :D
My lil project one finally passed warrant and reg yesterday! I haven't ridden it yet as it was straight back onto the trailer and to the mechanics for new tyres :banana: No way I was gunna ride in Shinkos lol
So hopefully I'll be clockin up the kms very soon :jerry::Punk:
They're not the greatest tyre but I've cornered faster and in more control than lots of people on "better" tyres. Upgrade if you like but I've never had them let go or any reason to dislike them, will be going to Michelin PP's once I'm done with them but thought they were ok enough to replace the rear as the front is still reasonably good. People might take all the Shinko bagging as a reason to freak out and riding ridgid through a corner or getting scared and upsetting the bike is a good way to make any tyre let go.
just my 2c
unrealone
12th October 2007, 05:20
Those Shinko tyres might be 'ok' in the dry. Try cornering in the wet. May aswell have slicks.
bull
12th October 2007, 08:34
Just coming up to 17000km since november 2006, 350km commute each week and a fair few weekend rides over the rimutakas and out to the wairarapa.
Had flat spot issue and had CDI replaced at about 5000km (warranty)
New rear pads, and new chain at 12000km service
New Rear tyre at 16000km service
Has been a bloody excellent bike ridden in most conditions, kept under carport with RJAYS cover over it. No major issues, the CDI unit is apparently an issue between emmission standards between korea and the rest of the world, mine was replaced with the USA CDI unit and flat spot was gone.
I noticed when i replaced my rear shinko with a Pirelli Sport Demon i get alot more toe dragging and the infamous kickstand scrapes when cornering on the Rimutaka's, this may be due to extra confidence in the tyre or just a stickier tyre.
Like the adverts about mental illness "know me, before you judge me" comes to mind when i hear people bagging the hyosungs.
Pancakes
12th October 2007, 11:28
Those Shinko tyres might be 'ok' in the dry. Try cornering in the wet. May aswell have slicks.
See people will read that as is sounds, I've ridden in the wet more than in the dry and this thread will be searched and read by people wanting correct info on these bikes. They are cheap and the parts they come with reflect that. I'd never tell someone who wanted to upgrade the tyres that they're wasting money cos most other tyre's will ride better. The fact is I ride at a reasonable pace and until the back had no tread left (in the centre from commuting, then it would spin easy on greasy spots, but still had reasonable wear on the sides) they were fine. Being a budget bike cost v.s performance will be something people look at. If you think these tyres are like slicks in the wet you've clearly not ridden slicks or you need to learn how to corner cos your upsetting your bikes composure somehow.
I have replaced the front pads at 5,000k's and 16,000k's. The std ones are soft as, keep an eye on them so you don't let the backing plate hit the disc.
Rear pads at 10,000k's.
The rear tyre at 16,500 but it really needed it. The sides on the front are getting there too.
Did a new headlight loom and 90/130W bulb upgrade, well worth it for double the beam distance. Outriding your clear vision is a good way to stain ya pants!
Changed the rear brake light switch cos it got sticky and when inspected has worn a bit.
Changed the front brake line for a braided one, the std one started feeling a bit spongey once it was warm.
Pancakes
12th October 2007, 11:47
Here's the info on the light upgrade. (From post #10).
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=51912
When I did the brake switch I used a totally different microswitch from Jaycar. The style that is in there seems like there's lots of parts for a switch.
ZeroIndex
12th October 2007, 11:54
After reading the bagging that Hyosungs get I thought I would post my experiences of owning one:
Bought in July 06 new
As at 13 September 07 done >42000km
9000km new rear shock and cdi unit under warranty
11700 new chain and front brake pads
24000 one fork seal
26000 new rear tyre
34000 new rear brake pads
35000 new front tyre
36000 new chain and sprockets
I get this serviced every 4000km as recommended by Hyosung, and have never had any trouble with it and in fact am contemplating buying another
How exactly is a rear shock and cdi unit needing replacement NOT a problem... even if it's covered by warranty that sort of stuff shouldn't happen... The GPX that I had, which was absolutely rubbish, was a 1986 model, and last year (when I owned it), I rode it back to back with a Hyosung GT250, and I have to say... Hyosung suspension is crap...
gw555
12th October 2007, 12:50
Did a new headlight loom and 90/130W bulb upgrade, well worth it for double the beam distance. Outriding your clear vision is a good way to stain ya pants!
I imported a Super Plasma bulb which is a std 60/55w equivalent to 135/125w because I do a reasonable amount of night riding. It gives out a very white light - 5000 kelvin on High beam, Low beam is a bluish/purple light and 3800 kelvin.
According to the Hella website these bulbs are illegal in this country so I rang the LTSA and they said they didnt have a problem with them unless you were intentionally blinding oncoming traffic and they said Hella was incorrect in saying they were illegal
gw555
12th October 2007, 12:53
How exactly is a rear shock and cdi unit needing replacement NOT a problem... even if it's covered by warranty that sort of stuff shouldn't happen... The GPX that I had, which was absolutely rubbish, was a 1986 model, and last year (when I owned it), I rode it back to back with a Hyosung GT250, and I have to say... Hyosung suspension is crap...
These two items were known problems with the 2006 model, I knew this when I bought the bike so I took the chance I could have a problem with them and they were fixed no questions asked
Pancakes
12th October 2007, 13:42
I imported a Super Plasma bulb which is a std 60/55w equivalent to 135/125w because I do a reasonable amount of night riding. It gives out a very white light - 5000 kelvin on High beam, Low beam is a bluish/purple light and 3800 kelvin.
I think you'll find the most you'll get from any brand is a 30+ Xenon or 50+ Xenon plus (so your 50/65 is then a 75/90). The tint on them will reduce the real world output below the wattage of the bulbs as a tint can only filter light out, blue however is a "faster" colour for your eye to see so can be better than the std yellowish bulbs. For more on the colours search HID lights.
According to the Hella website these bulbs are illegal in this country so I rang the LTSA and they said they didnt have a problem with them unless you were intentionally blinding oncoming traffic and they said Hella was incorrect in saying they were illegal
No matter what bulbs you have I'd recommend the loom upgrade. From the Hella website;
"Reduce the voltage drop to the bulbs
By bypassing the standard wiring with relays the voltage to the headlamp can increase, giving improved performance from any bulb. Typically standard wiring is relatively thin and a 1 volt drop is common to the bulbs. When replaced with higher capacity cable and relays this voltage drop can be reduced. A 10% drop in voltage (1.2V) equals 33% drop in light output. Your local Auto Electrician will be able to offer this service."
If it look sweet and works right you'll get a WOF, "legal" or not. What that means is they aren't going to be held liable for you changing your bike from std or maybe haven't paid to have the product certified, that has no bearing (or little bearing) on whether it could actually be cert'ed or not.
sonic_nz
16th October 2007, 14:58
I've done just over 5000km and just took my GT250R for a warrant... I have no brake pads left... :S maybe im a bit too heavy with the brakings... :P
Pancakes
16th October 2007, 15:55
Nah mate. The standard pads are cardboard and the last half just vapourises. Get some for $45/$50 bucks a pair from any of the shops that sell these bikes and if you want/need a hand doing it feel free to come around to mine and we can get it done. Takes 5 mins.
TOTO
10th March 2008, 16:35
Yep happy with mine. The only little problem I have had with mine (coming up to 10k so early days) is the chainguard fell off - oh and the boot got jammed. Both minor
I had exactly the same happen to me. both were fixed my Mt Eden motorcycles at no extra charge. :clap:
6000k broken fuel filter - replaced at no charge.
8000k new chain and sproket
12000k service coming up next week.
only thing I hate are those frequent services 4000k , damn I'm having a service every bloody month. Havent had the bike for 3 months yet.
nivram
12th March 2008, 09:15
An 07 Comet 4000kms no problmes apart from the fixing the 3rd gear flat spot that I did myself. A lot of bike for very little $$$
Dodger
12th March 2008, 14:32
I reached the 20000km mark this morning. :Punk:
Bike still going well and is booked in for the service on Friday.
I'm now using the bike with the wife on the back a few times a week, after car parking prices went up in town.
It's OK with us two heavy lumps on it, although acceleration suffers.
The plan is to get a bigger bike later in the year. (and keep the 250 as well)
Just need to save up the cash first :(
Only "problem" I have had in the last 15000kms is the fuel gauge light has gone out, at some stage I'll replace the bulb :)
gw555
13th March 2008, 07:15
I reached the 20000km mark this morning. :Punk:
Bike still going well and is booked in for the service on Friday.
:woohoo: Congratulations
CookMySock
13th March 2008, 09:55
I imported a Super Plasma bulb which is a std 60/55w equivalent to 135/125w because I do a reasonable amount of night riding.Did this make much difference ? I notice the lights on my 650 are quite dim.
thanks,
DB
Dodger
13th March 2008, 10:50
I imported a Super Plasma bulb which is a std 60/55w equivalent to 135/125w because I do a reasonable amount of night riding. It gives out a very white light - 5000 kelvin on High beam, Low beam is a bluish/purple light and 3800 kelvin.
I did notice that beastie on your bike, where did you import it from?
what cost?
gw555
13th March 2008, 12:33
Imported bulb from USA, from memory it was around $NZ80.00 including freight. I was thinking about getting another for a spare as I have had it for >12 months now.
I am not sure wether you can get them for the GTR as they are H1 and H3 I think??
trackinman
20th August 2008, 09:37
After reading the bagging that Hyosungs get I thought I would post my experiences of owning one:
Bought in July 06 new
As at 13 September 07 done >42000km
9000km new rear shock and cdi unit under warranty
11700 new chain and front brake pads
24000 one fork seal
26000 new rear tyre
34000 new rear brake pads
35000 new front tyre
36000 new chain and sprockets
I get this serviced every 4000km as recommended by Hyosung, and have never had any trouble with it and in fact am contemplating buying another
CDI? whats is the know problem. i have a GV250 and when it gets warm (after 3-4 minutes) it starts missing on the rear cylinder. I changed the plug (it was clean as a whistle) and it seem to idle ok the next day I started it again in the garage and after 3-4 minutes it started missing again after warming up. I am thinking its either the lead/coil ofr the CDI unit.
Mr. Rock
20th August 2008, 14:25
thought i might as well share my experiences with my hyo.
after 17km i had to take it back to the shop, when it was made the person who assembled it caught a wire in a screw and took a little bit if insulation off a power cable, everytime i turned left my bike would die. that got fixed and was sweet.
then i noticed the clock was not holding the time. on the 1000km service the dash was replaced under warranty. all good.
coming up on 2000km and everything is now running perfect.
reliable, and looks good. i like it.
xwhatsit
20th August 2008, 15:09
when it was made the person who assembled it caught a wire in a screw and took a little bit if insulation off a power cable, everytime i turned left my bike would die. that got fixed and was sweet.
The gossip is that a lot of the problems with the Hyosungs (well, not so much now, but there used to be when they first came to NZ) was the guys in the bike shops assembling them out of the crate poorly. Whether it was crap documentation from Hyosung, different ways of doing things than they were used to, or just giving the new boy something to do by putting the `little cheap learner bikes' together, a lot of bits just fell off. I suppose they eventually got fed up with replacing bits for no charge.
Look pretty sweet to me. Certainly stand up a lot better to abuse than the post-2000 GN250s do.
CookMySock
20th August 2008, 15:44
One of our 08' GT250R's starter solenoid has gone faulty. Click, click, click, click, click, click, start! bewdy! Had to push it once. Its slowly getting worse, dealer is getting a new solenoid - no worries!
Steve
Mr. Rock
21st August 2008, 11:42
tis all good a love the warrenty thing. i mean you buy stuff new and there is always little things to fix.. take my bosses new car for example 80k worth of car and its been back at lest 4 times for different things and we havnt even had it 6 months!
so teething problems should not make people not want to buy these machines cause they are a great learners bike!!
Aa7
21st August 2008, 13:48
mine has done just over 16k now and has been good but has major bad brakes and clutch cable problems.
The clutch cable problem is because i have wider MX bars which i find more comfortable than the OEM bars and the cable gets frayed in the metal tube just below the clutch lever because it is pulled to tight. Sofar i have replaced the cable 4 times and it is starting to get that tell tale clicking sound of slowling fraying steel cable again so i have a spare one sitting around knowing that this will break again soon. a custom made slightly longer cable would fix this problem but meh!!!
The brakes are absolute crap and have been rebuilt twice and pads replaced in the front four times in 16K :( the back brake is almost non existant and the front brake gets an extra hard time because of this. havent found any pads that will last longer than 4-5000k on the front so far and last time the disc got slighty scored so i presumme they will wear even faster now.
motor wise it has been a gem apart from the frequent service intervals it needs there seems to be not alot wrong with it. chain and sprocketrs replaced at around 10k otherwise shes mint. tires replaced at around the same time. A great cheap bike that has served its purpose as a comfortable commuter and cant fault them too much really apart from the crap brakes and only being as powerful as a lawnmower but gets the job done overall without much efforts. would recommend as cheap transport over a 15-20 year old jappa for similar prices
Patar
21st August 2008, 23:55
Reading through some of the posts, I'd have to say some people are in a bit of denial.
Sure it's mainly only bits'n'bobs that need doing but they still need doing (and it seems it's usually on relatively new bikes too), so i still remain unconvinced about hyosung reliability and build quality. Especially after hearing some right shocking stories including brake calipers coming loose...
captain_andrey
22nd August 2008, 04:18
Mine just clocked 10,000km and apart from having to replace the whole dashboard after 500k of travel (under warranty of course) its been fine ever since. New chain and sprockets needed soon but mechanically its perfect.
CookMySock
22nd August 2008, 08:21
Reading through some of the posts, I'd have to say some people are in a bit of denial.But we still like them, you see.
i still remain unconvinced about hyosung reliability and build quality. Especially after hearing some right shocking stories including brake calipers coming loose...I'm not exactly sure what this thread is FOR, but I AM sure it was not abut persuading anyone of anything.
My GT650R has been the picture of reliability. From 921km on the odometer to its present 15,000km - I have not put any tool on it for any purpose. Zilch, nada, nuthin. NO tool. Reliable!
Steve
Mr. Rock
22nd August 2008, 08:33
Especially after hearing some right shocking stories including brake calipers coming loose...
this to me would sound like the bike was not assembled properly...
DarkLord
22nd August 2008, 11:21
I found my '07 Hyosung to be more reliable than the '06 one. The '06 one blew 2 forkseals and the speedo was substantially out and didn't like going into neutral. The '07 one, besides needing a battery change has been fine. About 24,000 k's on the clock and still going strong.
gw555
26th August 2008, 19:27
Okay just as a update I have clocked 70000km now and replaced rear shock again at 66000km
Bike has been off road for 8weeks due to crash but I have it back now and it is still going strong
HTFU
26th August 2008, 19:58
mine has done just over 16k now and has been good but has major bad brakes and clutch cable problems.
The brakes are absolute crap and have been rebuilt twice and pads replaced in the front four times in 16K :( the back brake is almost non existant and the front brake gets an extra hard time because of this. havent found any pads that will last longer than 4-5000k on the front so far and last time the disc got slighty scored so i presumme they will wear even faster now.
motor wise it has been a gem apart from the frequent service intervals it needs there seems to be not alot wrong with it. chain and sprocketrs replaced at around 10k otherwise shes mint. tires replaced at around the same time. A great cheap bike that has served its purpose as a comfortable commuter and cant fault them too much really apart from the crap brakes and only being as powerful as a lawnmower but gets the job done overall without much efforts. would recommend as cheap transport over a 15-20 year old jappa for similar prices
Amazed at the number of people who have replaced chains and sprockets and brake pads inside of 10000 km on their Hyosungs. Motors seem to be faultless but in comparison my GPX is on original everything at 16000km. My chinese gn had two chains by 20000km. So it seems the Hyosungs a bit of an in-between on the consumables.
captain_andrey
26th August 2008, 21:53
Amazed at the number of people who have replaced chains and sprockets and brake pads inside of 10000 km on their Hyosungs. Motors seem to be faultless but in comparison my GPX is on original everything at 16000km. My chinese gn had two chains by 20000km. So it seems the Hyosungs a bit of an in-between on the consumables.
Thats understandable. People who get the brand new Hyos are new riders with some spare cash and not too much spare time to take care of the bike properly. I have oiled my chain maybe a total of 10 times in the last 10000km and my dealer has washed the bike more often then I have.
We also tend to thrash them round quite a bit so no wonder our consumables run out a bit faster. I took my bike over the rimutakas every sunny weekend during the summer and cooked the brakes on every run. I was surprised the lasted as long as they did.
nivram
29th August 2008, 16:30
9000k's original everything no problems, no better or worse than any other bike out there.
hmurphy
8th September 2008, 11:57
I have had many problems!!
I own a 2008 GT250R, only about 3 months or so and have done 9,900kms. This would be over 10,000kms easy if it wasn't for the bike shitting oil all over my rear tire yesterday and ending my ride over the rimutakas early. I didn't come off. OK, so here goes:
Before 1,000kms the chain gaurd came off at 100km/h in the wet at night. It caught in the chain and locked my rear wheel up for a few seconds while I fish tailed down the road crapping myself. There is a metal piece inside the chain gaurd that would have done this.
The handle bars like to slap the tank on straight lines at high-ish speeds on good ol' New Zealand roads. That also happened yesterday where the front wheel started bouncing at 100km/h then thrashed around, smacking my hands into the tank on boths sides for a few seconds. I wasn't even close to pushing it/going too fast!!! This has happened a couple of times... even once at 130km/h on a dead straight line.
At 7,000kms the chain was braking on two of the links. I tension my chain correctly and lube it very often. Especially since I do near 1,000kms a week riding on it. It was replaced by a crappier chain (got sold a non O ring chain, damn it) and that chain needs replacing now at 9,900.
At 8,000kms the bike started making a damn rattling noise when I wring its neck a bit. The noise never used to be there. Also on cold start you can hear the rattle with a few revs held constant from the throttle. Turns out something in the exhaust is slightly loose or something. No major.... for now.
The tail light bulb and a bulb under the dash for the rev meter needed replacing. I got pulled over by a cop for the tail light. He didn't seem to like me much, especially the fact that I was riding a bike. I wasn't speeding or anything. Hmmm...
At 9,900 I was going over rimutakas and the bike spewed oil over my rear tire resulting in a big rear tire slide out, only to bite back and nearly highside me. My bike has oil splattered everywhere and my rear tire had a nice thick coating of oil. The rear suspension is also shot. Mega soft. It would make a great trampoline for my younger brothers.
I get the bike serviced every 4,000kms (which is a bit less than once a month).
I like the look of these bikes, they are comfortable, sound great, cheap on petrol BUT I have had enough of riding one. Give me an r6 or some other REAL sports bike that wont try its hardest to kill me on the simplest of cruises. Ofcoarse, this is only my opinion and is based on my rather shitty experiences with it.
The Shinkos have never let me down too. Good for commuting and I have taken them right to the edge and I haven't come off. In the wet they felt fine. Nice meaty tread. I feel safe in the wet on them, but not on a Hyobag that spews oil everywhere and has many other faults.
Other than the fact that mine has been an expensive death trap, I SORTA still like the GT250R's hahaha. It's funny to see other people have had similar issues.
captain_andrey
8th September 2008, 12:46
Didn't you say in the other thread that the 'oil' leaked from the little rubber tube? That would be the fuel overflow valve I believe. Did you by chance fuel it up to the rim and then take it over the takas?
At least you came out better off then all the superbike riders on Sunday race 1
hmurphy
8th September 2008, 12:53
Yeah it was a rubber tube, although I wouldn't say it was a little tube! And I know for sure that this tube wasn't the fuel overflow tube after checking last night. Also it would be weird to find shitloads of oil coming out of it wouldn't it!? The fuel was actually running reasonably low, I was going to fill up in Masterton. I was below half a tank for sure. Cheers for your comment though! Discussion is welcome and appreciated
BiK3RChiK
8th September 2008, 14:13
I too have had issues with mine, but, my son and husband don't have any worries with theirs. hmurphy, I'd get that bike into the dealer and tell him all about your woes. Get some answers before riding it out of there. What happened to you on the weekend does not sound normal at all. All the best with finding the answers.
Radar
8th September 2008, 14:29
Yeah it was a rubber tube, although I wouldn't say it was a little tube! And I know for sure that this tube wasn't the fuel overflow tube after checking last night. Also it would be weird to find shitloads of oil coming out of it wouldn't it!? The fuel was actually running reasonably low, I was going to fill up in Masterton. I was below half a tank for sure. Cheers for your comment though! Discussion is welcome and appreciated
AFAIK there are only two tubes coming from a Hyo or any other (non water cooled) bike: one is the fuel overflow tube and the other comes from the battery compartment. There is no tube from the crankcase or gearbox. Therefore it would seem that its oil from the shock. If you sit on the seat can you bounce up and down? This would indicate a leaking shock absorber. BTW if you do need a new shock, order it direct from Richard Jordan in Korea - it will be less than half price including super fast courier delivery, and don't mention this to the workshop where you will get the shock replaced - no need for them to get ticked off.
At night or in a dark garage, follow the tubes with a torch light to see where each goes - remove the seat first.
hmurphy
8th September 2008, 16:10
Yeah she is in at TSS getting looked over. This same thing has happened to me before over the takas (about 2 weeks ago) but not as bad. I thought it was oil on the road that time too. I'm thinking goodbye Hyobag, hello r6.
CookMySock
8th September 2008, 16:37
I'm thinking goodbye Hyobag, hello r6.Do it. Theres no shame in ditching the hyo 250. Look what its taught you so far..
Steve
hmurphy
8th September 2008, 18:43
Do it. Theres no shame in ditching the hyo 250. Look what its taught you so far..
Every night I dream of riding an r6, then it turns into a nightmare when a cop pulls me over on my restricted licence. $400 and 25 demerits. OUCH!!
BiK3RChiK
8th September 2008, 19:10
Every night I dream of riding an r6, then it turns into a nightmare when a cop pulls me over on my restricted licence. $400 and 25 demerits. OUCH!!
Go for the exemption then... Apply to sit your full.;)
hmurphy
8th September 2008, 19:59
I did apply for an exemption. I also said in the exemption that I would sit any riding course and get my riding assessed by a professional rider AND sit the full licence test to prove I am capable of riding at a full licenced level. Also I have many years experience in off road riding and I do a hell of a lot of kms a week on my bike.
I got declined though. I would have jumped through any hoops, spent all the money I don't have to get my full too. Oh well. DAMN IT!!!!!!
CookMySock
8th September 2008, 20:59
forget the exemption, go get an r6. ride the fucker lol
S
hmurphy
8th September 2008, 22:30
Please don't tempt me. I can't afford the $400 dollar fine!! The bike would be paid for using a loan too, which doesn't bother me. NO REGRETS!!!!
Tank
8th September 2008, 23:25
Please don't tempt me. I can't afford the $400 dollar fine!! The bike would be paid for using a loan too, which doesn't bother me. NO REGRETS!!!!
If you cannot afford the $400 - you cannot afford the $$$ to pay for any damage should you ride into the side of a BMW.
Tempting as it is - the smart thing is to ride within the limits on the licensing and do your time. That R6 will be all the sweeter when you dont have to worry about the fines and insurance.
Razornz
9th September 2008, 00:21
Yeah I recently had some trouble with the Shinkos, I just bought a Hyosung GT250R 2008 model and yes I am a noob, but was doing fine until a few sessions in the wet wellington weather. It all ended in tears really when a series of unfortunate events led me to losing control in some shit conditions and busting my bike a tad. Was only going 25-30km but as you all probably know, Mr hyosung does not like impact damage.....
Its gonna cost a bundle to fix her and it just breaks my heart. I might invest in a new pair of tyres but would need some guidence as am a new rider. Any takers?
Tank
9th September 2008, 09:03
Yeah I recently had some trouble with the Shinkos, I just bought a Hyosung GT250R 2008 model and yes I am a noob, but was doing fine until a few sessions in the wet wellington weather. It all ended in tears really when a series of unfortunate events led me to losing control in some shit conditions and busting my bike a tad. Was only going 25-30km but as you all probably know, Mr hyosung does not like impact damage.....
Its gonna cost a bundle to fix her and it just breaks my heart. I might invest in a new pair of tyres but would need some guidence as am a new rider. Any takers?
Search for the KB Mentor program ... I went to the old one and its fantastic.
Top people with skills teaching simply because of the love of biking and a willingness to help people.
oh - if there was a series of unfortuante events that you couldnt get out of - slow down.
Tank
9th September 2008, 11:25
Search for the KB Mentor program ... I went to the old one and its fantastic.
Top people with skills teaching simply because of the love of biking and a willingness to help people.
oh - if there was a series of unfortuante events that you couldnt get out of - slow down.
SO DangerousBastard gives me a RED rep for suggesting the mentoring program - yet offer the suggestion that people buy bikes outside of their licencing conditions (R6 etc) and ride uninsured - Seriously DB you really are a twisted strange little git.
CookMySock
9th September 2008, 11:32
beww heww heww. I red repped you coz of the teaching comment and I said that too - it is you who is twisting meanings. The mentoring program is emphatically NOT a teaching program. Don't tell people its a teaching program. Its NOT. Sharpen up, Tank.
Steve
Tank
9th September 2008, 11:42
beww heww heww. I red repped you coz of the teaching comment and I said that too - it is you who is twisting meanings. The mentoring program is emphatically NOT a teaching program. Don't tell people its a teaching program. Its NOT. Sharpen up, Tank.
Steve
whatever - they are imparting knowledge - people learn from it. Thats teaching - regarless of it being in a mentoring format or not.
Edit -the comment was "Teaching? I think not" - so I didnt exactly twist it did I big boy?
MSTRS
9th September 2008, 11:50
beww heww heww. I red repped you coz of the teaching comment and I said that too - it is you who is twisting meanings. The mentoring program is emphatically NOT a teaching program. Don't tell people its a teaching program. Its NOT. Sharpen up, Tank.
Steve
And you know it's not teaching, how?
FWIW mentoring is the action of showing and telling anyone who wants/needs another (better?) way of doing. Or being a role model, whose riding (style?) is to be emulated. Call it teaching, training, instruction, mentoring - as a Senior Mentor, I don't really care what you call it. It is aimed at increasing rider awareness/skills...not how to go faster...in the hope of saving lives, by promoting good riding habits.
You, DB, need to pull your head in.
boomer
9th September 2008, 11:55
One of our 08' GT250R's starter solenoid has gone faulty. Click, click, click, click, click, click, start! bewdy! Had to push it once. Its slowly getting worse, dealer is getting a new solenoid - no worries!
Steve
But we still like them, you see.
I'm not exactly sure what this thread is FOR, but I AM sure it was not abut persuading anyone of anything.
My GT650R has been the picture of reliability. From 921km on the odometer to its present 15,000km - I have not put any tool on it for any purpose. Zilch, nada, nuthin. NO tool. Reliable!
Steve
you're not a full six pence...! :msn-wink:
MSTRS
9th September 2008, 13:10
Oooooo...a(nother) red from DB...all for me. Rather pathetic really. Yaaboo - sucks to be Mr.NoFriends :bleh::oi-grr::killingme
Tank
9th September 2008, 13:43
Who you calling mr no friends???
MSTRS
9th September 2008, 13:47
Who you calling mr no friends???
No no no no no...oh well, ok, ya got me.
rphenix
12th September 2008, 17:02
Yeah I recently had some trouble with the Shinkos, I just bought a Hyosung GT250R 2008 model and yes I am a noob, but was doing fine until a few sessions in the wet wellington weather. It all ended in tears really when a series of unfortunate events led me to losing control in some shit conditions and busting my bike a tad. Was only going 25-30km but as you all probably know, Mr hyosung does not like impact damage.....
Its gonna cost a bundle to fix her and it just breaks my heart. I might invest in a new pair of tyres but would need some guidence as am a new rider. Any takers?
Have you ordered the parts from RichardJordan's (www.richardhyosunggvgt.com) website? might make things a bit less painful in the pocket! I've ordered stuff twice from him both times arrives in 3 working days.
As for tires it depends what kind of riding are you doing on the Hyo? Daily commute? Weekend lazy Sunday riding? both?
skidMark
13th September 2008, 12:00
wtf 26,000 from a rear tyre, i only get 4,000-5,000 out of a rear on a zxr 250, and thats with no burnouts etc, just riding.
wears out in middle most and the sides are stepped from braking and accelerating, i assume u commute only on this bike?
Brett
15th September 2008, 08:59
Your title to this thread contains two generally mutually exclusive words.
EDIT: This is based on my evaluation of bikes ownd by those around me.
xwhatsit
15th September 2008, 14:51
wtf 26,000 from a rear tyre, i only get 4,000-5,000 out of a rear on a zxr 250, and thats with no burnouts etc, just riding.
wears out in middle most and the sides are stepped from braking and accelerating, i assume u commute only on this bike?
I just finally replaced my rear Avon Roadrunner after at least 30,000kms. Put a BT45 on to match the front, that should last even longer (although I prefer the feel of the Roadrunner, they don't make them any more though :().
It just never seemed to wear, so I stopped looking, but then in the last week it seemed to disappear almost at once -- by the time I got to Cycletreads there was a centimeter of canvas in the middle, which was a bit of a worry :pinch:
I run high pressures in the rear, do an even mix of commuting kms and fun kms on some really shit chipseal roads, but I think the biggest thing is piss-weak horsepower and light weight. The Hyos are porky but don't have too much more power than me, so that's probably got something to do with it.
CookMySock
15th September 2008, 17:09
well, my '05 GT650R developed its' first fault. Fuel tap is dripping after 15,000km's.
Steve
T.W.R
15th September 2008, 18:47
Just in the last couple of weeks we've had word about something that the majority of you Hyosung owners should be made aware of & mainly to do with GT250Rs:niceone:
There is the odd one showing up now with camchain issues and I mean BIG issues to the point of one bike actually handgrenading itself to bits only minutes after having been picked up from a Nth island dealer where the bike had been to have a fault checked over, we haven't been privy to who the dealer was but do know that they told the owner of the bike that the noise was resonance from the fairing :wacko:
Lyntech Holdings (Kawasaki NZ) are no longer holders of the franchise for Hyosung and the new owners are burying their heads a bit about dealing with the issue, if you've got concerns discretion is the better part of valour so keep an eye/ear on what your engine is up to :msn-wink:
So be warned if your bike is making a lot of noise from the motor get it checked thoroughly.
Just briefly scanning over the thread there were only 3 actual faults that recognised issues that are fixed under warranty the rest are mainly consumables
CookMySock
15th September 2008, 19:18
There is the odd one showing up now with camchain issues and I mean BIG issuesdoes this include the 650 engine ?
Thanks for the alert.
Steve
T.W.R
15th September 2008, 19:25
does this include the 650 engine ?
Thanks for the alert.
Steve
We weren't enlightened to the fact of whether the 650s are included or not unfortunately.
It's related to the usual camchain issue of tensioners not doing what their supposed to, but they're lunching themselves & taking out plenty of internals when they let go. The one I mentioned had the mid 20ks on the clock and when it popped it's lolly it fired bits out through the engine casings :pinch:
CookMySock
15th September 2008, 21:15
We weren't enlightened to the fact of whether the 650s are included or not unfortunately.good, so its not a fact then.
when it popped it's lolly it fired bits out through the engine casings :pinch:Yummy. :doctor:
Steve
Tank
15th September 2008, 22:23
does this include the 650 engine ?
Thanks for the alert.
Steve
I hear that the 650's have it as well. First sign is a dripping fuel tap and then BANG!!!
p/t
Radar
21st October 2008, 05:39
A group from Bangalore, India did a Himalayas motorbike trip on 3 Comet GT250's.
See this site - lots of amazing photos of the trip:
http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/hianusunil/SunilHim
Also here:
http://www.bcmtouring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4725&page=4
Interesting places visited include:
1. Marsimekla http://www.60kph. com/interact/marsimekla_tips.htm
2. Pangong Tso http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Pangong_Tso
3. Hanle http://www.iiap.res.in/centers/ iao
4. Chumar Monistary http://padmashedrupling.org/ chumur.html
5. Khardung La http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Khardung_La
The group believe that it is the first time a Comet has visited these places - up to an elevation of 19,000 Feet !!!
On member said: "Not a single fall Puncture or malfunctioning - Kuddos to the GT-250 I am loving it."
"The Pic I love most is:" http://picasaweb.google.co.uk/hianusunil/SunilHim#5232884690953216498
Radar
21st October 2008, 06:11
Hey, I'm not bagging the Hysosung, but doesn't a new rear shock and CDI at 9000 k's count as 'trouble'?
The rear shock is a weakness, although I have heard that they are now building better shocks.
Other new bikes have issues, and parts have to be replaced while under warranty. I have heard of problems with BMW's, Ducati's, Harleys, Suzuki's, and others, but it is the Hyo's that are unfairly singled out and trashed (well OK, Harleys also get negative comments).
BTW, I was up on Rimutaka summit recently and met a guy on a GT650. He FLEW past me going up from Featherston, faster than anyone has ever passed me on the twisties. The GT650 rider says he just loves eating Ducati's!!
tri boy
21st October 2008, 06:29
Good posts Radar.
Any bike that got through to the Khardung La is a hardy wee beastie in deed.
Did that ride in 97, and I am positive that ZXR/CBR's etc would really struggle. The riders would pull out first though, as they would get mud on their boots.:laugh:
Let the others slag the bike off. In the real riding/commuting world they are building a strong following.:niceone:
xwhatsit
24th October 2008, 14:09
Hey, if you think Hyosungs are bad quality, wait until you see this new little small-time British company that's started up... I think they're called `Trumph' or something. I hear the QC is so bad the wheels rust through almost from brand new, isn't that right TB? :laugh:
Never mind this piece of shit Japper I've got -- you'd never see a proper European bike with a burnt-out alternator, would you?
Them's some cool photogs.
tri boy
24th October 2008, 18:01
Rusty rims aghhhhh!
To be fair to Triumph, they had bought from the Italians, and that is a recipe for trouble.
The replacement, that is of much higher quality came from.......you guessed it, Thailand. Those that still fall back on "cheap Asian crap/Korean crap" etc, are so behind the play, they may as well give up.
I'd back the emerging/new companies as often as possible.
Go Hyosung. Stick it to the establishment.
xwhatsit
24th October 2008, 21:53
Damn straight, the more manufacturers the better I say. Be interesting to see how Lifan et al turn out over the next decade or so -- `Jap Crap' all over again perhaps :)
DarkLord
6th March 2009, 17:51
Thread bump..
Just wanted to let you all know about something that happened to my Hyo recently. I've been noticing this jarring rattling when riding and I got off the bike, put it in neutral and revved it the other day and I noticed that the front headlight was loose and rattling around in its casing.
I took it into Katman's shop in Taupo (big ups to him, by the way - awesome dude, very helpful) and we found that some of the screws holding the casing in had come loose and that was causing the light to rattle around. Thing is, the plastic casing on the front of the headlight is 100% fixed on there. They DO NOT want you getting it off. Even once we managed to get the screws off we realised that the whole plastic front casing is sealed with glue, so there was no way of getting that screw back into place so what we had to do in the end was cut a hole in the bottom of the light and hold the loose part together where the screw had come out with superglue.
This has thankfully solved the problem, but once again has shown that the Hyosung bikes tend to suffer from poor design quality. It seems to me that if something as simple and stupid as a screw comes out in the headlight and causes it to rattle, you have only two options - do what we did or replace the whole thing, which I think is pretty poor on Hyosung's part. I shouldn't have to shell out howevermuchmoney for a whole new headlight system just because of one stupid loose screw!!!
Anyway just thought I'd post this and let you all know.
Cheers
DarkLord
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