DR650 Scottoiler install - Pics

[cooneyr]

Got meself a second hand scotty of tardme couple of weeks back. Though one might be worth ago on the DR. The chain on the DR gets a hard time i.e. long kms (100+ at a time) on gravel between oilings and always seems to be dry. I know that being dry can be a good thing in really crappy conditions off road but the sprockets and chain have gone form pretty decent to completely naff in around 6000kms. :(

How have others routed the feed tube so that it is not on the outside of the frame? I cant really see an easy solution to this as the chain and rollers are a bit close if the tube was on the inside of the frame. Although the current routing takes the hose nice and close to the swing arm pivot hence no issues with tube length. I made a little "shelf" that is attached to the sprocket chain guide and zip tied the tube to it. The other bracket with jubilee clamp holding the feed head came with the oiler.

Anyway enough dribble, pics of my install attached. Turned up a little high at the moment (still learning what is best setting for onroad) but overall liking the system and best bit - it was under $80 :niceone:

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Basically what you've done there but route it up through the swingarm hole by the shock.

[cooneyr]

Basically what you've done there but route it up through the swingarm hole by the shock.

Hmm didnt think of that one. I think I need another couple of zip ties and a tube joiner (already got a bit of extra tube) :D

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Hmm didnt think of that one. I think I need another couple of zip ties and a tube joiner (already got a bit of extra tube) :D

Cheers R

Yep.
That's what Mine has too :D

[warewolf]

That's what Mine has too :DNeeds gaffer tape and No. 8 wire, otherwise it'll look shop bought.

[Transalper]

Was coming to see you Thursday, you want I can bring mine with me? or Js one as hers is single nozzle too, mine is dual and quite different at the nozzle end.

[NordieBoy]

Needs gaffer tape and No. 8 wire, otherwise it'll look shop bought.

500 zip ties should dispel the "shop bought" notion.

[cooneyr]

Needs gaffer tape and No. 8 wire, otherwise it'll look shop bought.

No. 8 is old skool - high tensile these days (if you can bend it and it doesnt break cause its brittle :D)


Was coming to see you Thursday, you want I can bring mine with me? or Js one as hers is single nozzle too, mine is dual and quite different at the nozzle end.

I assume you are talking to me? If during the day we have shifted to across the road (1st floor, 138 Vic St or Lumley house, the 5 story just abit closer to Bealey). I'm keen to see the DSD - never look real close before. I've still got that bloody DVD haven't :doh: :Oops:


500 zip ties should dispel the "shop bought" notion.

Steady there - there is shop bought and then there is just butchered.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

How about coloured zip ties then?

[cooneyr]

How about coloured zip ties then?

How about I find some pink and baby blue ones - I recon they would go really nicely with the purple frame. Actually wouldn't matter anyway cause only going to get covered in oil and dirt :D

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

You mean you're actually going to ride it?

:blink:

[cooneyr]

You mean you're actually going to ride it?

:blink:

Yep and its going to get dirty. Not like a certain KTM that is always shinny - even at 9am the morning after a 14 hour day :rolleyes:

Cheers R

[warewolf]

How about coloured zip ties then?


How about I find some pink and baby blue ones - I recon they would go really nicely with the purple frame.Bet you're sweet on that purple Teletubbie, too! :buggerd: :whistle: :girlfight:

KTM sell orange zip ties:
<img src=http://www.ktm.com/fileadmin/systemdata/hardequipment/U6951130(3).jpg>


Yep and its going to get dirty. Not like a certain KTM that is always shinny - even at 9am the morning after a 14 hour dayHey at 9am it was still dirty. Took 'til 10am to clean it.

[cooneyr]

Bet you're sweet on that purple Teletubbie, too! :buggerd: :whistle: :girlfight:

KTM sell orange zip ties:
<img src=http://www.ktm.com/fileadmin/systemdata/hardequipment/U6951130(3).jpg>

Hey at 9am it was still dirty. Took 'til 10am to clean it.

LOL - That purple teletubbie passed your on Taylors Pass back in

Why so many zip ties? Does KTM sell them to you so you can attach everything that falls of due to the vibrations :lol:

Cheers R

[warewolf]

Why so many zip ties? Does KTM sell them to you so you can attach everything that falls of due to the vibrations :lol:Yeah, you daisy-chain them all together and use them as a seat belt! :yes:

[cooneyr]

Yeah, you daisy-chain them all together and use them as a seat belt! :yes:

Or a KTM tow rope:shifty:

Didnt manage to find any pink or baby blue zip ties - damn! Thinking about turning the bike into the anti bling. Am thinking about a purple chain gang sprocket. :sick:

Cheers R

[warewolf]

Didnt manage to find any pink or baby blue zip ties - damn!Try Jaycar (https://secure4.vivid-design.com.au/jaycar2005/productView.asp?ID=HP1196&CATID=22&keywords=&SPECIAL=&form=CAT&ProdCodeOnly=&Keyword1=&Keyword2=&pageNumber=&priceMin=&priceMax=&SUBCATID=817), some bright blue but not pink.

[Jantar]

Hmm didnt think of that one. I think I need another couple of zip ties and a tube joiner (already got a bit of extra tube) :D

Cheers R

For a tube joiner, go to Mitre10 and in their irrigation section they have 5mm tube joiners. They are designed for that thin irrigation tubing used on drippers, but I've found that they are the perfect fit for Scott Oiler tube.

[cooneyr]

For a tube joiner, go to Mitre10 and in their irrigation section they have 5mm tube joiners. They are designed for that thin irrigation tubing used on drippers, but I've found that they are the perfect fit for Scott Oiler tube.

Exactly what I've done although I think they might be 4mm not 5 :whocares: 80c each for the inline joiners, cost so far $2.40 cause I mashed one :o plus 7 zip ties.

Got a few 100mm yellow zip ties so they will have to do for anti bling for now.

Cheers R

[Ronnie]

Hmmm... Buy 8 loobman chain oilers for 1 scott oiler...:scooter:

[cooneyr]

Hmmm... Buy 8 loobman chain oilers for 1 scott oiler...:scooter:

Thats if you buy a new scotty. Tardme loobmans are about $65 and I've paid about $80 all up for a scotty - so I'm not complaining. I probably wouldn't have bothered with a new scotty nor a loobman. I'd keep forgetting to use the loobman so would be no better off than manual oiling.

Cheers R

[NordieBoy]

Hmmm... Buy 8 loobman chain oilers for 1 scott oiler...:scooter:

I fill the Scotty up once every couple of months and that's it, no further intervention needed.

[Ronnie]

Scott oiler or loobman, a chain oiler is a marvellous thing to have on the bike. I have put one on together with a new chain n sprockets 10000 k ago and you cant see they have worn. The chain is always shining with a good coat of oil and thats how they want to be.:sunny:

[Transalper]

Scott oiler or loobman, a chain oiler is a marvellous thing to have on the bike. I have put one on together with a new chain n sprockets 10000 k ago and you cant see they have worn. The chain is always shining with a good coat of oil and thats how they want to be.:sunny:

Don't suppose you could post up a picture of your loobman where it's mounted both ends? Please Thanks and all that stuff.

[mbazza]

Thanks for the photos. Interesting thread. I only just caught up with the idea of double feeds at the PP here in the South. I'll look out for a double feed to stick on the wee-strom as the inside of the chain doesn't get enough oil.
Cheers.:scooter:

[laRIKin]

Well done R and I do not want to rain on your parade.
But I would not run the hose over the frame where you should be gripping with your legs.
On most bikes this is the first place the paint wears out.
And going by the amount of paint there you and the other owners aren't doing this.
I would run it on the inside of the frame as I would crush and damage it on my first ride.
If you grip hard with legs you will get more control of your bike in the rough.
Just a thought.

[cooneyr]

Well done R and I do not want to rain on your parade.
But I would not run the hose over the frame where you should be gripping with your legs.
On most bikes this is the first place the paint wears out.
And going by the amount of paint there you and the other owners aren't doing this.
I would run it on the inside of the frame as I would crush and damage it on my first ride.
If you grip hard with legs you will get more control of your bike in the rough.
Just a thought.

Its already been re routed to be on the inside of the frame. Was trying to find away to get to the inside of frame while missing the chain and TA had the solution. From the swing arm, to the rear frame down tube and up it to the air box (now above the chain) and then horizontal to the oiler.

Yer I should probably grip the frame more. I manage to polish up the clutch case cover with my right boot (protrudes outside the frame) but I tend to keep my left foot just a little bit off the frame so that I can work the gear leaver (big feet are a pain).

Reading the adv thread again - does that mean the LC4 is getting some attention?

Cheers R

[laRIKin]

Its already been re routed to be on the inside of the frame. Was trying to find away to get to the inside of frame while missing the chain and TA had the solution. From the swing arm, to the rear frame down tube and up it to the air box (now above the chain) and then horizontal to the oiler.

Yer I should probably grip the frame more. I manage to polish up the clutch case cover with my right boot (protrudes outside the frame) but I tend to keep my left foot just a little bit off the frame so that I can work the gear leaver (big feet are a pain).

Reading the adv thread again - does that mean the LC4 is getting some attention?

Cheers R
You are right in releasing the grip a bit to change gear, but you must grip with both feet to hang on to the bike properly so you get control over the bike and get your body in the right position.
Other wise you will not be controlling the bike when it bucks left and only have half the control when it goes right.
Or push down to help the tires bite and get grip.
Easier to do than explain.

Not to sure what I'm doing with the LC4.
Don't want to sell it as there is no other bike I would like as a adv dirt bike at the moment. As I think the LC4 is still a good reliable all round bike.
And the 03 is the pick of the bunch with the larger 18L tank (which I would like to have).
But I can't be bothered working on it (tune up etc) getting it rego, changing tires or riding it.
So it sits unloved on the bike table and I just think I should put it back together and ride it or sell it.
Now it's summer and dusty it will stay there until winter I guess and I'll ride my road bike's. :whocares:

[magpie]

Got meself a second hand scotty of tardme couple of weeks back...............Anyway enough dribble, pics of my install attached. Turned up a little high at the moment (still learning what is best setting for onroad) but overall liking the system and best bit - it was under $80 :niceone:

Cheers R

Hey cooneyr...
hows about an update on the scottoiler.... am thinking of investing in one myself

[NordieBoy]

Hey cooneyr...
hows about an update on the scottoiler.... am thinking of investing in one myself

Get one. You won't regret it.
Unless you're a clean freak.

I'd go for a standard oiler and the twin nozzle.

The DR is the 3rd bike I've had one on.

[Frodo]

I had a Scottoiler on my F650 and swapped it across to my Pegaso. That bike has done 32,000km on the original chain, and I can pull the chain perhaps 2mm out on the rear sprocket, so I have heaps of wear left. I have to acknowledge that most of my miles are on the road. Still its been a good investment. Set it right, there's no maintenance (other than keeping it topped up) and less mess than a spray can.

[cooneyr]

Hey cooneyr...
hows about an update on the scottoiler.... am thinking of investing in one myself

Dont have the DR any more, haven't fitted the scotty to the new bike and don't think I will. The single sided delivery was not oiling the chain on one side at all (obviously) and when riding on gravel etc was very clear that the chain was going to wear very strangely. Fitted a twin delivery head and then had no end of trouble with it blocking or flooding everything. Also I found that I was killing front sprockets way to fast with a damp chain but not enough oil to flush the dirt off.

I'm back to manual oiling with a bottle when I hit the seal each time (let the chain dry out when off road). Worked for me before I got the scotty and seems to work OK now. I would fit a scotty to a road bike but nothing else.

Cheers R