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obstacle
22nd September 2007, 15:19
Hi,

I've just had a Mongoose MCA500 alarm / remote starter installed. I'm now only able to use the starter button on the bars when the bike is in neutral. I know this is necessary for cars and stuff but when my hornet is in gear without the clutch pulled in it wouldn't power the starter anyway. Now when i pull the clutch in i can't start it if it's in gear.

Is this right?

I'm just a newbie so i'm stalling every now and again and it's going to be a killer if i stall on a hill start and have to stop, get back into neutral, start the bike, get back into first and then try to get up the hill again.

maybe i'm worried about nothign but i don't like the change.

xwhatsit
22nd September 2007, 15:32
A lot of bikes can only start in neutral. They have switches on the clutch, gearbox, side stand to make sure that complete numbskulls don't hurt themselves.

Many people disconnect such switches because they're a complete pain in the tit, as you've found out.

It's possible that a previous owner had disconnected this switch, and whoever installed the alarm has reconnected it when they've been playing with the wiring. I'm sure somebody knows how to disconnect said switch again?

onearmedbandit
22nd September 2007, 16:13
Hi,

I've just had a Mongoose MCA500 alarm / remote starter installed. I'm now only able to use the starter button on the bars when the bike is in neutral. I know this is necessary for cars and stuff but when my hornet is in gear without the clutch pulled in it wouldn't power the starter anyway. Now when i pull the clutch in i can't start it if it's in gear.

Is this right?

I'm just a newbie so i'm stalling every now and again and it's going to be a killer if i stall on a hill start and have to stop, get back into neutral, start the bike, get back into first and then try to get up the hill again.

maybe i'm worried about nothign but i don't like the change.

It's a safety feature of that particular alarm that stops the bike from being started by remote in gear, which of course is something you don't want. Obviously it's wired up in a way that means your starter button is performing the same action.

obstacle
22nd September 2007, 16:54
It's a safety feature of that particular alarm that stops the bike from being started by remote in gear, which of course is something you don't want. Obviously it's wired up in a way that means your starter button is performing the same action.

Yeah, that's what I figure. I'm going back to see the installer on Monday as the siren has died after less than 24 hours use so i'll see if he can re-enable the clutch trigger to allow it to start.

if not i'll just have to harden the fuck up.

WarlockNZ
22nd September 2007, 17:57
Put it in Neutral .. it takes all of what ... 2 seconds ... jesus! .. how fast do you need to get away ??? ... LOL

RantyDave
22nd September 2007, 18:13
Put it in Neutral .. it takes all of what ... 2 seconds ... jesus!
It was a pain in the tits when I was learning. Some bikes just do not like neutral - add to that being on a hill, cages backing up behind you, being flustered and feeling like a dick ... I can see why you'd want it to just f*cking start!!

Dave

WarlockNZ
22nd September 2007, 18:15
It was a pain in the tits when I was learning. Some bikes just do not like neutral - add to that being on a hill, cages backing up behind you, being flustered and feeling like a dick ... I can see why you'd want it to just f*cking start!!

Dave

Fair Call ... LOL ... i know that feeling .. ha ha

The Lone Rider
22nd September 2007, 19:24
I've found it no issue with my bike having a kill switch on the kick and also not starting unless in neutral. IMO if you have trouble with getting a bike in neutral, you need more practise on that bike. I don't think its anything to be ashamed of. New bike, or just something not used to.. awesome, just get some practise in it!

xwhatsit
22nd September 2007, 21:42
...kill switch on the kick...

Jesus, it must be bloody hard work on your leg starting it then!

The Lone Rider
22nd September 2007, 21:47
Jesus, it must be bloody hard work on your leg starting it then!

Sorry, I call it a kick stand half the time. You lot call them side stands.

vagrant
24th September 2007, 18:44
I've found it no issue with my bike having a kill switch on the kick and also not starting unless in neutral. IMO if you have trouble with getting a bike in neutral, you need more practise on that bike. I don't think its anything to be ashamed of. New bike, or just something not used to.. awesome, just get some practise in it!

Not tried a ducati with a dry clutch then have you? Absolute Bast@#d to get into neutral at the lights.:laugh: