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Pumba
22nd September 2007, 21:55
Ok I have a K6 SV1000s, now I may have the opertunity get a Teka Tune carried out, the real question is it worth doing?
I have a set of Yoshi Slip on's at the moment, if I was to get a tune done I would be looking at getting a K & N or BMC filter to go along with it.
Is the money worth it or would I be better off spending it on a Power Commander or simular type set up.
Opinions Please.
Cajun
22nd September 2007, 22:12
half dozon one of the other
Honstly pc3 are for people who want to play with stuff.
Do it once and just go teka, just make sure you do all the mods you plan on doing first then just go for it.
jimbo600
22nd September 2007, 22:38
Get the TEKA done, but make sure you go to a place with a trained TEKA installer.
Pumba
24th September 2007, 08:45
half dozon one of the other
Honstly pc3 are for people who want to play with stuff.
Do it once and just go teka, just make sure you do all the mods you plan on doing first then just go for it.
Well to be perfectly honest I wouldnt have a clue how to adjust things myself, or what I really should be adjusting and I would be more worried about messing it up and causing engine damage
Get the TEKA done, but make sure you go to a place with a trained TEKA installer.
Thanks Jimbo, a group of us are heading down to the Burt Munroe Rally in Invercargill, one of theguys has been talking to Wellington Motorcycles about getting a Teka Tune done on his Bandit as we are passing through and I thought well this might be worth looking further into as I am unaware of anyone in Aucklan/Waikato region that uses them (seems to be all Dynojet and Power comander stuff up here).
Seeing how you are down that way do you know if Wellington Motorcycles are any good at this, or have one of these trained installers you speak of?
imdying
24th September 2007, 09:27
Ok I have a K6 SV1000s, now I may have the opertunity get a Teka Tune carried out, the real question is it worth doing?
I have a set of Yoshi Slip on's at the moment, if I was to get a tune done I would be looking at getting a K & N or BMC filter to go along with it.
Is the money worth it or would I be better off spending it on a Power Commander or simular type set up.
Opinions Please.Yes it's worth spending the extra money on a PCIII. The major problem with the standard fuel map on the later faster 32bit ECUs on 05+ SV1000s is the emissions dip at high vac/low (3-5k) rpm situations. The Teka can and will cure this, but as it's a pretty blunt instrument, you're going to rape your fuel mileage at the same time. A PCIII can be tuned finely in comparison, and can be tuned correctly to remove the emissions dip without hurting your fuel consumption. Do all your mods before having it fitted.
Pumba
24th September 2007, 12:48
The major problem with the standard fuel map on the later faster 32bit ECUs on 05+ SV1000s is the emissions dip at high vac/low (3-5k) rpm situations. The Teka can and will cure this, but as it's a pretty blunt instrument, you're going to rape your fuel mileage at the same time. A PCIII can be tuned finely in comparison, and can be tuned correctly to remove the emissions dip without hurting your fuel consumption.
See this is where I start getting a bit confused, because isint one of the reasons for carrying out such a tune is to try and improve engine effecientcy and therefore fuel econamy?
Grahameeboy
24th September 2007, 12:57
See this is where I start getting a bit confused, because isint one of the reasons for carrying out such a tune is to try and improve engine effecientcy and therefore fuel econamy?
I have a DNA, Plug in TRE and Akro exhaust. Now I did not pay for the exhaust but the TRE was $60 or so and the DNA was less than K&N and before I put the exhaust on just these 2 made a difference.
So you can make a difference for a small outlay.
You can also lift the tank up a wee bit with spacers to get more air flow and this is suppose to make a difference.
imdying
24th September 2007, 13:08
See this is where I start getting a bit confused, because isint one of the reasons for carrying out such a tune is to try and improve engine effecientcy and therefore fuel econamy?There's a dirty great big lean spot at the place I mentioned. With a PCIII you can fine tune that rpm/load range, only richening up what you need to. The Teka tune won't give you that sort of fine control, you'll have to richen a much larger section of the map, thus you end up rich in places you don't want to be. Additionally, whilst the PCIII is being fine tuned, there are many areas of the map that they can lean out, so not only do you not overly richen areas of the map that don't need it, you can lean out other areas of the map that can take being leaned out.
imdying
24th September 2007, 13:09
I have a DNA, Plug in TRE and Akro exhaust. Now I did not pay for the exhaust but the TRE was $60 or so and the DNA was less than K&N and before I put the exhaust on just these 2 made a difference.
So you can make a difference for a small outlay.
You can also lift the tank up a wee bit with spacers to get more air flow and this is suppose to make a difference.TRE and tank spacers are a waste of time and money.
Grahameeboy
24th September 2007, 13:11
TRE and tank spacers are a waste of time and money.
Have not done the spacers thing cause I reckon so but the TRE was cheap and made a difference to throttle response and smoothness......
imdying
24th September 2007, 13:23
YMMV, *shrugs*
I would do a TPS adjustment before anything else.
jimbo600
24th September 2007, 15:08
Well to be perfectly honest I wouldnt have a clue how to adjust things myself, or what I really should be adjusting and I would be more worried about messing it up and causing engine damage
Thanks Jimbo, a group of us are heading down to the Burt Munroe Rally in Invercargill, one of theguys has been talking to Wellington Motorcycles about getting a Teka Tune done on his Bandit as we are passing through and I thought well this might be worth looking further into as I am unaware of anyone in Aucklan/Waikato region that uses them (seems to be all Dynojet and Power comander stuff up here).
Seeing how you are down that way do you know if Wellington Motorcycles are any good at this, or have one of these trained installers you speak of?
Yep Welly Motorcycles are very good at the TEKA tune. I've had two GSXRs done there now and was very happy with both.
Pumba
24th September 2007, 21:01
There's a dirty great big lean spot at the place I mentioned. With a PCIII you can fine tune that rpm/load range, only richening up what you need to. The Teka tune won't give you that sort of fine control, you'll have to richen a much larger section of the map, thus you end up rich in places you don't want to be. Additionally, whilst the PCIII is being fine tuned, there are many areas of the map that they can lean out, so not only do you not overly richen areas of the map that don't need it, you can lean out other areas of the map that can take being leaned out.
Ok the logic behind that is scary simple when put in those terms.
TRE and tank spacers are a waste of time and money.
I Had come to the same conclusion, although it makes the list of mods sound more impresive when you go to sell it.
YMMV, *shrugs*
I would do a TPS adjustment before anything else.
I really need to get round to doing a TPS Sync.
Yep Welly Motorcycles are very good at the TEKA tune. I've had two GSXRs done there now and was very happy with both.
Thanks Jimbo, I thought that was the case but it is always worth checking.
Ozzy27
26th September 2007, 21:58
Talk to Ray at Ray clee motorcycles (Kumeu) He has a Factory Pro Dyno. They are the People who Make the teka and can tune it to best Power. Take a look at Factory Pro website.
HDTboy
26th September 2007, 22:47
I was about to type the same thing. Talk to Ray Clee at RCM performance.
boomer
26th September 2007, 23:05
There's a dirty great big lean spot at the place I mentioned. With a PCIII you can fine tune that rpm/load range, only richening up what you need to. The Teka tune won't give you that sort of fine control, you'll have to richen a much larger section of the map, thus you end up rich in places you don't want to be. Additionally, whilst the PCIII is being fine tuned, there are many areas of the map that they can lean out, so not only do you not overly richen areas of the map that don't need it, you can lean out other areas of the map that can take being leaned out.
you should maybe talk to the people in the know. what you're stating above isn't correct..
boomer
27th September 2007, 11:02
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how lame...
Pumba
27th September 2007, 21:02
you should maybe talk to the people in the know. what you're stating above isn't correct..
Boomer, without getting in the middle of whatever you and Imdying have got going (I dont care either) I would love to hear your opinion on the Teka if you have one.
Pumba
27th September 2007, 21:07
Talk to Ray at Ray clee motorcycles (Kumeu) He has a Factory Pro Dyno. They are the People who Make the teka and can tune it to best Power. Take a look at Factory Pro website.
I was about to type the same thing. Talk to Ray Clee at RCM performance.
Thanks Guys, I didnt actually realise there was anybody in the Upper North Island had anything other than Dynojet Dyno's, therefore requiring a PC111.
cowpoos
27th September 2007, 21:19
Boomer, without getting in the middle of whatever you and Imdying have got going (I dont care either) I would love to hear your opinion on the Teka if you have one.
the teka tuner is a mint device...it re tunes the factory ECU...so you don't actually have to buy one...all you pay for is the dyno time...the PCIII has its advantages...but they arn't as big as my estemed friend imdying is making them out to be... best thing to do...ring ray clee at RCM performance and have a chat...he won't steer you wrong...he
s NZ's leading race bike engineer...and builds some very very impressive bikes which are always compeditive [and dam near win all the time!!] ...as the basis of his job is tuning engines...he doesn't use powercomander products...he uses teka tuner and kit ecu's like yoshi ecu's....
Pumba
28th September 2007, 12:54
the teka tuner is a mint device...it re tunes the factory ECU...so you don't actually have to buy one...all you pay for is the dyno time...the PCIII has its advantages...but they arn't as big as my estemed friend imdying is making them out to be... best thing to do...ring ray clee at RCM performance and have a chat...he won't steer you wrong...he
s NZ's leading race bike engineer...and builds some very very impressive bikes which are always compeditive [and dam near win all the time!!] ...as the basis of his job is tuning engines...he doesn't use powercomander products...he uses teka tuner and kit ecu's like yoshi ecu's....
Thanks for the input poos
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