Boy racerdom

[arsnik]

Reading and posting in the Compulsory insurance thread, there is a lot of dislike, even hatred for the alleged \"boy racers\", I would like to know what is your opinion as a motorcyclist what a \"boy racer\" is

Lets have a collective definition of a \"boy racer\" that we as bikers, all hate with a vengence.

Ill start with a carried on mis quote from scum dog.

Johnny trolley boy at paknsave, sick of driving his mums corrolla, goes down to Shackels no deposit easy finance yard on his learners licence with $1 dollar and drives out in a gimick rally car turbo 4wd. A week later heads off to mag and turbo, for the big chrome wheels and lowering kit and 6 inch tip, goes next door to DUV DUV SOUNDS and gets a stereo louder than those at the night clubs he loves to drive past repeatedly, \"doing laps\" on friday and saturday nights.

All of this bought on finance at rip off rates, $20,000 car with extras for the next 6 years costing him $40000, if he\'s lucky and the car doesn\'t blow up after 10,000km of him launching and winding the boost up he might get to sell it back off for $10k, and keep the debt.

He drives down your 50kmh street at 80, he takes your sons and daughters out cruising, corrupts them no doubt, as you brought them up better than \"him\", takes part in minor crime, does skids and races peopel at every set of traffic lights, is a menace to society, is going no where career wise. Congregates with other boy racers and they race around the streets at stupid speeds, find new subdivisons and destroy them. What else scum dog?

I find it to be a goebbelistic exercise of scapegoating set up by some not so smart, but smarter than the average kiwi, political types, they are an undefined species yet blamed for so much. They have made law a \"boy racer act\" yet no definition of boy racerism exists, they have fooled the average new zealander into being scared of these boy racer types. So scared that laws a swiftly passed through out of sheer terror the boy racers might get you next. I find more to fear in the average kiwi motorist, on bike, or driving trucks or cars myself.

Whats your take on boy racers? Do you have a definition? Experiences of the so called boy racers endangering lives?

[skelstar]

I think that the boy racer tag is more of a media derived label than anything else. Sure as shit it wasn't anyone in parliment that dubbed it the 'boy racer' act.

[spookytooth]

So called boy racers are no different than me and my mates 30 years ago.The only thing thats changed is the cars and there's more young folk about.

[Disco Dan]

Search and ye shall find...


Thread One (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=16125&highlight=boi+racer)
Thread Two (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=5942&highlight=boi+racer)
Thread Three (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=41636)

[Deviant Esq]

A lot of so called "boy racers" are in the same situation as what has been described above... but what's worse is there's most often at least one of alcohol, drugs, or party pills being consumed, at least by the passengers but sometimes the driver as well. They cause all sorts of havoc, throwing bottles out of the window at other cars or pedestrians, all distracting the already-too-young with too little experience driver, who doesn't care enough to concentrate on what he's doing anyway, goes too fast, doesn't drive to the conditions at any rate, and generally endangers everyone's lives of those they are near.

[Finn]

Here's an example for you.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10465775

[marty]

interesting wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_racer

and all you ever needed to know: http://www.boyracerguide.co.uk/

[Disco Dan]

http://www.hoodackey.co.nz/main.shtml

[skelstar]

An example of what bugs me about the boy-racer thing and the media:

A while ago (a year maybe?), a pedestrian was hit on Courtney Place (Wgtn) by a couple of cars that were going too fast. Nobody (Police) can verify that the cars were racing, but the paper/media states that they were boy racers. Don't think they could even say what the make of the car was. Fark. How can they come to that conclusion?

Fuggin hate the media sometimes.

[cowboyz]

Want a definition?
Boiracer (n) Anyone who operates a vehicle in a fashion that is to draw attention to themselves in an urban area.

Note the correct spelling of /boiracer/ as youths these days *have* to spell everything wrong on purpose to show how stupid they really are. If they took it to the back country roads then that would be fine by me. Or could try showing up for a trackday every now and then. Problem with trackdays is it shows how slow one is. It is easy to *look* fast on the street. The track shows a different story.

[imdying]

http://www.hoodackey.co.nz/main.shtml

Ahhh, those guys are the biggest bunch of retards this country has bred in a long time :laugh:

[ManDownUnder]

Lets have a collective definition of a \"boy racer\" that we as bikers, all hate with a vengence.


A definition? I can think of the parts to be added to make the whole
Vehicle (car or bike or whatever)
A wreckless disregard for the safety or property of others

... I think that's it

[007XX]

Yep, what MDU said...

I have nothing against people havign fun, be it in a car, a bike, an airplane or anything...

But as long as it is within a safe for all environment...the speed that some kids in flashy cars drive on the open road or in little residencial streets like mine is truly unsafe and I really can't say I approve.

Sure they don't give a hoot about what i think, but if my kid was to get hurt by one of them little morons, I wouldn't freakin care what he calls himself...boy racer or not, his/ her arse would be mine!

[SPman]

A definition? I can think of the parts to be added to make the whole
Vehicle (car or bike or whatever)
A wreckless disregard for the safety or property of others

... I think that's it
Surely, a "wreckfull" disregard for the safety or property of others.....

[ZeroIndex]

Any young wanker who thinks his car is faster than a 600cc+ sportsbike... and has the sound system to prove it :killingme

[Swoop]

Someone who deliberately pours diesel on the road to show off with.

Someone who welds a baked bean can to their exhaust to make it sound different from the 1200cc p.o.s. it really is.

[Hitcher]

Fucken young people. There should be laws against them.

[ManDownUnder]

Fucken young people. There should be laws...

I understand it's illegal if the young person in question is a minor...

[arsnik]

Surely, a \"wreckfull\" disregard for the safety or property of others.....

So basically your average kiwi motorist, not much to do with the type of car or age?

[Coldrider]

A 'boy racer' is some one else to blame, much like 'middle management' in a corporate structure.
We always need someone else, the peopleless 'they' to blame in society, and they foot the bill.
I have no doubt that some motorcyclists also are in the boy racer theme on a motorcycle, much like we are conditioned to think boy racers are not middle aged men.

[arsnik]

A \'boy racer\' is some one else to blame, much like \'middle management\' in a corporate structure.
We always need someone else, the peopleless \'they\' to blame in society, and they foot the bill.
I have no doubt that some motorcyclists also are in the boy racer theme on a motorcycle, much like we are conditioned to think boy racers are not middle aged men.

Kind of what I\'m getting at.

[LilSel]

from wikipedia :lol:
Boy racers in New Zealand generally drive later model Skylines, Subaru Legacys, as well as late model BMWs. Often these cars are overloaded (more passengers than legally allowed, heavy modifications such as poor quality spoilers, and heavy, inefficiently installed sound systems) and have been lowered without care. The norm is the same general pattern of larger wheels, thinner tyres, larger exhausts and seemingly arbitrary carbon fibre parts and hood/roof scoops that have no use as is seen in other countries.



I drive a turbo Subaru Legacy with tinted windows (legal!), 17"mags (legal!), superlow king springs (legal!), flash cd player/amplifier/12"subs (legal!)....

:killingme... does that make me a boy racer??!!... I just like my car to look nice & have a good stereo... *scratches head*... im confused...

Edit:... I own it and all the bits on it... no HP's there either.

[fergie]

i used to be a boy racer, that was 25years ago, i think i was called a hoon, same antics, different mode of transport.

[hXc]

Any young wanker who thinks his car is faster than a 600cc+ sportsbike... and has the sound system to prove it :killingmeTry 250cc naked bike buddy.
On many occasions I have seen boy racers try and take me on. I ignore them if there's lots of other traffic around, or sometimes have a bit of fun. Nine times out of ten...They're in my mirrors, not the other way 'round.

[cowboyz]

I dont know if anyone else has noticed but when out on a ride, if at a fuel stop and stnading round talking at least once during that ride a car leaving the servo will do or at least try to do a burnout on the way out. Must be LPS kicking in.

Just because you own a subaru doesnt make you a boyracer. However, if you drive in a manner that brings attention to yourself or attempt to race other cars in town or burnout at the lights, have radio blasting so no one in the vacinity can hear themselves think then yes, you probably are a boyracer.

An easy test is that if you are driving down the road and see a cop and think "fuck the police" or "holy shit I am going to get pulled over for something (whatever) then you are probably a boyracer.

[hXc]

An easy test is that if you are driving down the road and see a cop and think "fuck the police" or "holy shit I am going to get pulled over for something (whatever) then you are probably a boyracer.That makes a lot of us, including me, a boyracer too then. Big generalisation there.

[scumdog]

. They have made law a \"boy racer act\" yet no definition of boy racerism exists, they have fooled the average new zealander into being scared of these boy racer types. So scared that laws a swiftly passed through out of sheer terror the boy racers might get you next. I find more to fear in the average kiwi motorist, on bike, or driving trucks or cars myself.

Whats your take on boy racers? Do you have a definition? Experiences of the so called boy racers endangering lives?

SCARED of 'em?

Far from it - I see most of them as a ticket-fest!!

Most of 'em that screw up would do it in anything they drove - it's just unfortunate they pick on trendy cars to do it in thereby giving the decent boy-racer type a bad name. (Sound familiar? - like the squids give other bikers a bad name)

And oh, haven't read the whole thread yet but no doubt somebody has told you that no such thing exists as The Boy Racer Act - it's just a coloquialism that is more acceptable in public than The Wanker Act.

[cowboyz]

not really and you need to either look at the way you ride or accept that you are a boy racer and get yourself off to a 12 step program with B.A.A.

Out of interest, which example bothers you more? You think "fuck the police" or think they are going to pull you over for something?

[scumdog]

http://www.hoodackey.co.nz/main.shtml

Had a look at that site - mwahahaha, they give 'tards a bad name, calling them losers is praising them!!!

[F5 Dave]

Here we have a group of youths that have in their actions of moronically modifying their vehicles (ie: removing suspension in the mistaken belief that the car will handle better) and fitting loud exhausts & then proceeding to use them late at night in travelling circus events around the suburbs have directly affected motorcyclists.

Modification rules are now waay more strict than the US. Crazy! While it used to be ok to modify your bike now many things require a LVV certification, the full impact of this is not widely recognised. For example changing your master cylinder (say to a sexy radial one) requires a LVV. OK who is going to notice? Probably no one. But a savy insurance assessor might decide that it is a good reason not to pay out a claim, saving company money.

Noise is a highlighted issue. As is speed. Motorcyclists have always had a bad rep, but the sheer volume and antics of these guys in highly public areas have made it worse for everyone.

The speeding around in loud vehicles in built up areas is propagating a climate of society advocating more & more control be given to the Police & lawmakers to clamp down on them & by association we’re all affected too.

Thanks guys, we owe you one.

[imdying]

For example changing your master cylinder (say to a sexy radial one) requires a LVV. OK who is going to notice? Probably no one. But a savy insurance assessor might decide that it is a good reason not to pay out a claim, saving company money.Wonder if that would get past the insurance ombudsman... assuming that the change of mcyl didn't cause the crash of course.

[HenryDorsetCase]

is it any wonder we worship SD as a god?

[LilSel]

Just because you own a subaru doesnt make you a boyracer. However, if you drive in a manner that brings attention to yourself or attempt to race other cars in town or burnout at the lights, have radio blasting so no one in the vacinity can hear themselves think then yes, you probably are a boyracer.


Whew... thats alright then :cool:...
My car doesnt to 'burnouts'... tyres cost too much... n its 4wd :)
& im not irresponsible...

I do like to turn my P!NK or Cher up to boom boom levels occasionally... esp when on the motorway on way to work etc... never have sounds up at night or in 'built up' areas, someone may have a baby sleeping etc...
personally I have respect for other people n think about it before I reach for the volume dial :D...

[Squiggles]

omg lol....
on http://www.hoodackey.co.nz/main.shtml i found this...



A famous bowlcut once said -
Lou Girardin
8th January 2007, 19:47
If people are stupid enough to post that shit in a public place and include times, dates, photos and in some cases videos of the stupid antics then who can blame a prosecuting agency for using evidence that has been gifted to them?" This post was made on the kiwibiker.co.nz forum. Well the question still remains, why have none of us ever been convicted of anything because of anything posted on this website?? Our photos aren't saved with a date/time, we cover faces, and in instances where faces are shown, it's because it's shit someone's allready been charged for (eg. porkys) .. can't be charged for something twice just cos we put pics of it online lol. And another point.. when do we supposedly complain about being convicted anyway? We just don't get along with some of the cops in this town.

[Matt_TG]

I agree with the definition in the first post - was that Scumdog's work? Nice :niceone:

... and, SD ...




And oh, haven't read the whole thread yet but no doubt somebody has told you that no such thing exists as The Boy Racer Act - it's just a coloquialism that is more acceptable in public than The Wanker Act.

Ummm, the Police refer to it as the The "Boy Racer Act" (http://www.police.govt.nz/service/road/boyraceract.html) on their website, it's less of a mouthful than the The Land Transport (Unauthorised Street and Drag Racing) Amendment Act 2003 :sick: I don't think there's any dispute that we are discussing the same thing.

[oldrider]

Reading and posting in the Compulsory insurance thread, there is a lot of dislike, even hatred for the alleged \"boy racers\", I would like to know what is your opinion as a motorcyclist what a \"boy racer\" is

Lets have a collective definition of a \"boy racer\" that we as bikers, all hate with a vengence.

Whats your take on boy racers? Do you have a definition? Experiences of the so called boy racers endangering lives?

The term "boy racer" is what the media apply to young people in cars, enjoying themselves at the expence of other peoples interpretation of entitlement to peace and quiet!

When I was a youngster, we were called "Milkbar Cowboys" and the whole media and public attitude thingy was very similar, the only difference was that we were riding noisy expensive "motorbikes"! (never had them in my day)

I guess in generations to come, it will be those damn kids in their bloody "rocket ships" and space vehicles! (never had them in my day)

I wont be around to witness it but most of you will be among the grizzly old bastards doing the complaining, fucking young people! :argh: John.

[Bullitt]

As someone who has previously owned modified cars and been associated by people who didnt own modified cars with boy racers Id say its one of the most over used terms.

Ive spent alot of money on cars and Ive met some good people through it too. With the exception of a 13k over speed camera fine Ive never been fined for anything illegal.

Theres just a few people out there who ruin it for everyone else. Every time theres a car show on (eg Autosalon in Christchurch last weekend) the news can always find some idiot in a 80s Mazda 323 wagon to do a burnout. If they couldnt find someone Im sure theyd use stock footage anyway. But that dont mean the majority is like that.

Just more stereotype bashing for most of it.

Obviously there are some people out there who deserve to get prosecuted such as anyone endangering someones safety etc but taking a person in teens/late 20s as being a bad person just cause theyve wasted too much money on a car is no different to thinking someone is bad because theyre black or a jew or anything else.

[hXc]

not really and you need to either look at the way you ride or accept that you are a boy racer and get yourself off to a 12 step program with B.A.A.

Out of interest, which example bothers you more? You think "fuck the police" or think they are going to pull you over for something?I don't care if people think I'm a wanker when I'm riding. I may not ride in the safest manner at times, but I'm not pushing beyond mine, or the bikes limits. Think what you like - I'm not going to change how I ride 'cause someone complains really.

I don't consider myself a boy racer. My bike is in no way modified, nor is my car. My car is a '94 1500cc Ford Laser station wagon ffs - not particularly a speed machine is it?

I don't drive/ride at all hours of the night with my music on full bore nor do I have a loud exhaust. Because I'm young and I tend to ride like a 'hoon' at times though, I am labelled as a boy racer.
This, is what pisses me off. the generalisations that the older people put upon us young drivers or motorcyclists.

Now I'm not saying that us young people are saints, I know we're far from it. But I am saying that older people tend to label all young, 'fast' drivers as boy racers. Or all motorcyclists 'hoons'.

It may or may not be true, but it's not what I call a fair society. Respect blah blah blah. You earn respect in my books, you don't automatically gain it.


Young persons rant over.

[RantyDave]

All of this bought on finance at rip off rates, $20,000 car with extras for the next 6 years costing him $40000 ... is going no where career wise.
Say what you like about boy racers but it's an expensive habit and keeps the little buggers in work, if nothing else. As yoof cultures go it sure beats heroin.

Dave

[Finn]

My first car was an old Mitsubishi Mirage. In those days, moding a car consisted of going to Repco and buying 4 plastic wheel covers that looked like mags for 50 bucks. The stereo had more valves than the engine and the only time it went Pssssshhhhhhh was when you were inflating the tires. My mate went through a Duran Duran stage (he actually turned out gay - never saw that one coming) so it was cheap, creased tint film on closed windows. This helped hide my pimples and the pillow that I had to sit on to see over the dash. Its a miracle I ever got laid.

Oh yeah, we were scared of the Police back then.

[SPman]

i used to be a boy racer, that was 25years ago, i think i was called a hoon, same antics, different mode of transport.Over here (W.A), they have "anti Hoon" laws - same thing, different country - just more Holden commer doors!. They also include motorcyclist under these laws!

[cowboyz]

Theres just a few people out there who ruin it for everyone else. Every time theres a car show on (eg Autosalon in Christchurch last weekend) the news can always find some idiot in a 80s Mazda 323 wagon to do a burnout. If they couldnt find someone Im sure theyd use stock footage anyway. But that dont mean the majority is like that.
there might be 300 cars in the square in palmy on a fri night and 20 of them might be racing/doing burnouts/ drinking and driving/ throwing things out their windows. That doesnt make them the majority but it doesnt make it acceptable either.
Just more stereotype bashing for most of it.
I dont think it is stereotype bashing. I think it is a real and valid problem. A week ago some boyracers lost control on my street and came sideways over my driveway narrowly missing my fence. I went out to see what they were doing and told them to fuck off. If they had collected my fence then I am damn sure they wouldnt have coughed up the bil. Maybe it is just a sterotype and they would have been round the following sunday to repair the damage. hahahahhahahahaha
Obviously there are some people out there who deserve to get prosecuted such as anyone endangering someones safety etc but taking a person in teens/late 20s as being a bad person just cause theyve wasted too much money on a car is no different to thinking someone is bad because theyre black or a jew or anything else.
Have to jump in with the racist card somewhere huh? I dont class someone driving a modified car as a boyracer. There are plenty of cars that have been restored and look really good driving round on a sunday afternoon in various car clubs - much like bike rides. Some of the performance cars may even break the speed limit on occasion. No problems there. Quite a different scenario to what we call boyracers though.

I don't care if people think I'm a wanker when I'm riding. I may not ride in the safest manner at times, but I'm not pushing beyond mine, or the bikes limits.

You might want to stop and read what you are typing before you post. The great denny Hulme once said that you can take a corner safely at 100km and same corner dangerously at 60km/hr. If you are not riding safe (which sure does surprise me considering I have met your parents and they both have their heads screwed on striaght) then you really should look at your riding before you hurt yourself.

Think what you like - I'm not going to change how I ride 'cause someone complains really.
Attitute of a true boyracer.
I don't consider myself a boy racer. My bike is in no way modified, nor is my car. My car is a '94 1500cc Ford Laser station wagon ffs - not particularly a speed machine is it?
Just because you dont drive a tripped out $20000 car does not exclude you from being a boyracer.
I don't drive/ride at all hours of the night with my music on full bore nor do I have a loud exhaust. Because I'm young and I tend to ride like a 'hoon' at times though, I am labelled as a boy racer.
probably got more to do with the attitude in your post that labels you as a boyracer than anything else.
This, is what pisses me off. the generalisations that the older people put upon us young drivers or motorcyclists.

Now I'm not saying that us young people are saints, I know we're far from it. But I am saying that older people tend to label all young, 'fast' drivers as boy racers. Or all motorcyclists 'hoons'.

It may or may not be true, but it's not what I call a fair society. Respect blah blah blah. You earn respect in my books, you don't automatically gain it.


Young persons rant over.

Yes. Respect is earnt. I respect a wheelie on a clear road that is ridden in control. I dont respect a wheelie in the middle of town done to intimadate the general public or put others in danger. I respect a rider riding at pace on the open road. I dont respect a drag race from the lights. You want respect? How about pulling your head in and earning it.

[hXc]

Cowboyz: You may have misinterpreted my post. I may not ride safe in others eyes is what I truly meant.

I don't believe myself to be a boy racer. I don't hoon everywhere, I do pick a time and place. But as I said before. Some people may see me as one. Which is what I get fucked off at. They see me as one because I'm young, male, and the media says I'm a boy racer.

I don't believe I have the attitude of a boy racer. I believe I have the attitude of 90% of young people - this includes boy racers.

[ZeroIndex]

Try 250cc naked bike buddy.
On many occasions I have seen boy racers try and take me on. I ignore them if there's lots of other traffic around, or sometimes have a bit of fun. Nine times out of ten...They're in my mirrors, not the other way 'round.

I completely agree... I even took on and beat a couple of Friday Night Hoons (including a few Turbo-ish'd Skylines) on my GPX and RG150... But the mentality of them is that they see a 600cc or 1000cc, and are more interested in racing one of those as opposed to a 400cc or smaller bike, cause they think they are so great

[hXc]

I completely agree... I even took on and beat a couple of Friday Night Hoons (including a few Turbo-ish'd Skylines) on my GPX and RG150... But the mentality of them is that they see a 600cc or 1000cc, and are more interested in racing one of those as opposed to a 400cc or smaller bike, cause they think they are so greatIn fact, wouldn't most of them see a bike and think, 'oooh gunna waste 'em oi.' Not even thinking about size etc 'cause half of them wouldn't know.

[98tls]

As much as so called boy racers piss me off at times i just remind myself of the many years i spent owning and cruising around in old falcons etc.....theres not alot of difference,the cars are smaller and in many cases faster and theres more of them,just as importantly theres more media these days and its not like the country has grown any so as far as there concerned any news is good news and hence we are bombarded with the boy racer thing,20 odd years ago someone doing 200 clicks down some road in new Plymouth wasnt heard about on the news all day in ch-ch.

[Shiny side up]

Arogant and tryhard are two partial definition tath spring to mind.
To dumb to know that they don't know.
We used to get them comming in and asking if we could lower thier cars. I asked a few why they wanted to mess up the geometry of the steering and reduce the vehicles ability to retain traction during times of lateral force?
They ALL said "cause it corners better" ?!? WTF

[Hitcher]

Arogant and tryhard are two partial definition tath spring to mind.
To dumb to know that they don't know.
We used to get them comming in and asking if we could lower thier cars. I asked a few why they wanted to mess up the geometry of the steering and reduce the vehicle's ability to retain traction during times of lateral force?
They ALL said "cause it corners better" ?!? WTF

What they don't know, indeed...

[Weaver]

I think that the boy racer tag is more of a media derived label than anything else. Sure as shit it wasn't anyone in parliment that dubbed it the 'boy racer' act.

Fucken aye

[Bullitt]

Cowboyz it seems I touched a nerve, that wasnt my intention.

I probably came across more pro boyracer than I intended to.

I dont have that many issues with the treatment. I endorse the police trying to stop people racing on the streets or doing burnouts or having excessevly loud exhausts.

Ive never been pulled over outside of a checkpoint, ive never had any issues from the cops on either the condition of my car or my driving.

However I do have issues where a person puts a new exhaust on for a real reason (rather than to just to make it louder) or slightly spins the wheels taking off from the lights (I dont mean a burn out just a slight chirp) and has a particularly harsh penalty applied. I also have an issue where any negative event involving someone under 30 with a modified car labels that person as a boy racer despite the facts.

At the end of the day the truth is somewhere in the middle. Boy racers get treated harshly but some of them fully deserve it. At the same time some people get treated worse than they deserve but usually if your completley law abiding you dont have to worry too much.

[cowboyz]

No nerves touched. I sit squarely on the middle of the fence. I have kicked a guys door in at 70km/hr in the middle of town because he threw something at me taking off from the lights. (assume it was a beer bottle/can) I have had enough run-ins with the law to rack up 90 demerit points and sit on close to losing my licence for speeding. I dont travel at the speed limit very often at all.
There was a news article a little while ago about a young lad that hit a cyclist at 70km/hr in a 70km.hr zone. The report went on about how the young driver was above the alcohol limit. It concluded to say that the accident was being put down to speed.
The media is a cruel creature and increasingly is not to be taken too seriously.
When we were kids (not that long ago I might add) we raced round the square in escorts and cortinas. They were pretty shit cars really but we thought we were cool. We never did anyone any harm really. Maybe a wolf whistle at some chicks walking up the street and every now and then we convinced them to join us for some entertainment.
Nowadays the boy racers have cars that will leave V8s for dead. Increasingly drinking at throwing stuff at people. Disrespecting property. We used to go down to the stock yards gravel carpark and rip it up. Dust for africa and we thought it was cool. Now it is parks and reserves and peoples lawns. I could go on forever and although I started this post on both sides of the fence their is a difference.

Another thought just jumped in my head. When we were young we were afriad of the police. We didnt go round telling the cops to fuck themselves.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Interesting opinions... very different in reality... one must mingle to understand...... Its almost as silly as the law that says a slight pop of ur front wheel means ur bike can be impounded and lisence suspended on the spot... too much time too little work and not enough focus. I'll leave youse with that thought to ponder.

[skelstar]

I'll leave youse with that thought to ponder.
Cheers buddy!

[Disco Dan]

Lots of talk about the "boi" part but little about the "racer" part. Wasnt that the point of these modified cars in the first place? Illegal street races?

Far less of that going on compared to actual "hoolaginism" - beer bottle throwing and burnouts etc.

Should be a Boi Hooligan law as well as a Boi Racer law. :niceone:

...while their at it.... "Boi biker" law too... geeesshh....

[EJK]

They like me when I do wheelies lol :lol:

[cowboyz]

Lots of talk about the "boi" part but little about the "racer" part. Wasnt that the point of these modified cars in the first place? Illegal street races?

Far less of that going on compared to actual "hoolaginism" - beer bottle throwing and burnouts etc.

Should be a Boi Hooligan law as well as a Boi Racer law. :niceone:

...while their at it.... "Boi biker" law too... geeesshh....

You going to get all PC about the term "boyracer"? No wonder we need a government to hold our hands. It is clear what a boyracer is be it in a tricked up car, a piece of shit or a bike.

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A 'boy racer' is some one else to blame, much like 'middle management' in a corporate structure.
We always need someone else, the peopleless 'they' to blame in society, and they foot the bill.
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Call them what you like...all I know is that it isn't my fault...

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omg lol....
on http://www.hoodackey.co.nz/main.shtml i found this...

Quote:
A famous bowlcut once said -
Lou Girardin
8th January 2007, 19:47
If people are stupid enough to post that shit in a public place and include times, dates, photos and in some cases videos of the stupid antics then who can blame a prosecuting agency for using evidence that has been gifted to them?" This post was made on the kiwibiker.co.nz forum. Well the question still remains, why have none of us ever been convicted of anything because of anything posted on this website?? Our photos aren't saved with a date/time, we cover faces, and in instances where faces are shown, it's because it's shit someone's allready been charged for (eg. porkys) .. can't be charged for something twice just cos we put pics of it online lol. And another point.. when do we supposedly complain about being convicted anyway? We just don't get along with some of the cops in this town.


Someone should post back on the hoodackey thingy informing the clever readers that, once an incident is posted on the internet it can't be used as evidence by the police - as long as it is clearly labelled with date, time and place.

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Someone should post back on the hoodackey thingy informing the clever readers that, once an incident is posted on the internet it can't be used as evidence by the police - as long as it is clearly labelled with date, time and place.
That be a good idea ARRRRRR!!! <-- said like a pirate