View Full Version : 2008 Ninja 250. WOW!!!!
FkNAmerican
27th September 2007, 02:47
Well kids.....Kawasaki has FINALLY done it. They decided to update the venerable Ninja 250/Ex250.....and I think they have a winner here.
Link: http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/detail.aspx?id=263&content=details
Love the red and black. Even the blue aint half bad. Best of all is that its only a couple hundred more then the old one!!!!
I think its a HUGE improvement over the previous bike. It looks like a baby Ninja Zx6R for christs sake. Insiders are saying that its going to have a stronger midrange and a much stronger top end then the previous bike too!!!
Why the hell couldnt they have had this when I first graduated the MSF course?!?!?! Honestly, I'd probably still be happily riding a 250 if they had this out a few years ago!
Kawasaki is gonna sell these things like hotcakes. To me its pretty much the ONLY option for a first bike if your'e a sports bike enthusiast and are gonna go the 250 route before moving up to something bigger......at least in the United States anyway.
sAsLEX
27th September 2007, 04:22
Parallel Twin will be way slower than a ZXR250 or CBR.....
Romeo
27th September 2007, 04:37
Awesome, I may have just found my first bike :]. Good thing too, because I like the "naked" look.
ZeroIndex
27th September 2007, 04:50
Wow!!! That look really good...
Now: onto picture reference/thoughts:
a. They've dropped the 2nd exhaust (which is something that was always on my mind when I owned a GPX250)
b. They've managed to get the sidestand nice and far into the bike so it won't be the first thing that scrapes when tipped over on it's left-hand side.
c. They've improved the appearance of the mirrors, which no longer look like some huge ugly looking thing.
d. They've changed to twin-seat as opposed to banana seat (I always have found twin seat to be slightly more comfy... well... at least some bikes)
e. They've changed the carbs to Keihin CVK30, which have got to be better than the (if I remember correctly) Mikuni carbs, which I personally didn't like that much (but it was probably just the condition of my GPX)
f. They've finally switched from 16" to 17" wheels
g. Candy Plasma Blue... need I say more
:love:
Taz
27th September 2007, 06:14
Bet it wont be 6k tho.
As for the GPX being slower than a ZXR250 or CBR250 well speed aint everything and I personally would prefer to pay 6K for a new bike than 6K for a 15 year old ZXR. Just my 0.02c.
sAsLEX
27th September 2007, 06:18
Bet it wont be 6k tho.
As for the GPX being slower than a ZXR250 or CBR250 well speed aint everything and I personally would prefer to pay 6K for a new bike than 6K for a 15 year old ZXR. Just my 0.02c.
I see you would rather have the Honda by way of omission.
deanohit
27th September 2007, 06:26
Parallel Twin will be way slower than a ZXR250 or CBR.....
I read last night that the latest 250 Ninja has more horsepower than the old zxr250 and it will sell for about US$3500 in the States. Looks great in black. Wonder if Muzzy will do a perfomance exaust?:shutup:
Kflasher
27th September 2007, 07:07
Yip that does look hot, looks part of the family now.
LilSel
27th September 2007, 07:51
:shit: I better sell my zzr before they get here n I lose value :lol:
marioc
27th September 2007, 07:54
I guess the big question is will it be available here?
LilSel
27th September 2007, 07:57
I guess the big question is will it be available here?
I am awaiting a :mobile: back today... made some enquiries :devil2:...
FB wants one...
Where there is a will there is a way right?!...
Know a few people who import cars... so once I hear if they are going to be coming here or not then comes the 'plan of attack'....
(with a little help from friends/family in the import business... it could work out perfectly :D)
It would be cheaper to source one from japan rather than the states
scott411
27th September 2007, 08:06
I guess the big question is will it be available here?
dealers are already ordering them, no eta as yet tho
ehab2weelr
27th September 2007, 10:38
Kawasaki is releasing a new 250cc motorcycle.
The ninja 250r is so fare a reality and well be revealed in France Thursday the 27th 2007.
This bike is an absolutely sick looking bike, looks a little like the ninja 636, only with a 250cc block.
It’s a water cooled parallel twin block that pulls out 45hp. Which means it’s just as fast as the old zxr250 and cbr250r.
So this means that all zxr, cbrr, fzr, gpx, gsx, gsxr, and all other 250s are going to meat there doom, all those bikes are going to reduce in value as soon as the new ninja is released.
Other than that, the new ninja is one sick looking beast.
I’m sure that very shortly Honda is going to fight back a release a 250 of there own.
As for Hyosung, I am sorry but there time in the light is coming to an end.
The new ninja is a smart move by Kawasaki, since the 250 market is so vast and open.
Good on yea Kawasaki. :niceone:
http://www.kawasaki.com/Products/Detail.aspx?id=263
http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2007/September/sept24-30/sept2507KawasakiNinja250Rofficialpicture/?&R=EPI-94878
RC1
27th September 2007, 10:40
think this was posted earlier but could be wrong, the :Police: will be here soon
ehab2weelr
27th September 2007, 10:51
This could have been posted earlier, but I had a search threw and couldn’t find anything.
If someone did post something about this earlier, then I apologise for posting again.
:2thumbsup
klyong82
27th September 2007, 10:53
Read this in the sportsbike tread but not bad another sporty 250 to take on the popular Hyosung. Trying to find out about the specs but non available yet. Wonder when Honda is going to release a 2008 CBR 250.
RC1
27th September 2007, 10:53
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=57844&highlight=kawasaki
Coyote
27th September 2007, 10:57
It has been posted up here before, but they were paparazzi photos, not confirmation.
I'm absolutely delighted. I hate the 250 market with all my black heart. Finally, Red Baron won't be making 90% profit out of 20 year old bikes.
45hp at the crank of course, mind you that's what they said the old 250s had
xwhatsit
27th September 2007, 12:02
45hp at the crank of course, mind you that's what they said the old 250s had
And that's from a twin, too, so it'll be 45hp you can just twist the throttle and use like a big bike, instead of winding the thing up through 18,000rpm or so (as fun as that is).
I expect it's going to be rather expensive over here. I wonder how many you'll see on the roads.
Good move, although I don't see Honda following suit.
Indiana_Jones
27th September 2007, 12:17
Well it'd be good to see something like this to open up the 250 'sports' market a bit.
But still gotta love those 18,000 redlines on the old school ones :D
-Indy
deanohit
28th September 2007, 19:06
How does a 2008 Kawasaki Ninja 250R Club Racer sound?:Punk:
http://cycleposers.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=231&Itemid=116
axdout
28th September 2007, 21:18
personally i think that the 2005 model looks way tuffer http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/311524/
deanohit
28th September 2007, 21:21
That '05 pic you linked to is a photoshop job, ZX6R front end with a swingarm and exaust of a honda VFR. Looks bloody nice though.
unrealone
28th September 2007, 21:58
Can anyone confirm 45HP?
I've also noticed that in the press releases they've said a single 290MM petal disc on the front, yet the specs on their site say 260MM petal disc on the front. which is it?!?!
deanohit
29th September 2007, 09:49
MCN promo video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqjlOUgHwic&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fcycleposers%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ephp% 3Foption%3Dcom%5Fcontent%26task%3Dview%26id%3D235% 26Itemid%3D116
ZeroIndex
29th September 2007, 09:58
And that's from a twin, too, so it'll be 45hp you can just twist the throttle and use like a big bike, instead of winding the thing up through 18,000rpm or so (as fun as that is).
I expect it's going to be rather expensive over here. I wonder how many you'll see on the roads.
Good move, although I don't see Honda following suit.
Considering Yamaha and Honda have just made the new little fuel injected 125cc roadbikes the Yamaha YZF-R125 and Honda CBR-125R... Kawasaki just says F**k it... we'll just fix up this bike that we haven't changed for over 20 years (1986 - 2007)... Makes you wonder what Suzuki has up their sleeve...
Renegade
29th September 2007, 11:42
looks great, bout time some one gave Hyo a run for its money in the new bike department, i wonder if the motor is just a trimmed down version of the Er6f motor, kawasaki seem to like these paralell twin jobbies.
fireball
29th September 2007, 12:57
i am so going to get one in black!
so when i s release in nz anyone know or confirmed it yet?!
fireball
29th September 2007, 13:04
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=56538
HTFU
29th September 2007, 22:48
Can anyone confirm 45HP?
I've also noticed that in the press releases they've said a single 290MM petal disc on the front, yet the specs on their site say 260MM petal disc on the front. which is it?!?!
Just checked out the UK Kawasaki site. http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/250r/default.asp?Sub=6549116
Don't know if this is final but its on their site so who knows. It has the old model power figures and the new as well (although UK old model bike has different power numbers than NZ site) for example the new one has 21 nm at 8500 and the old kiwi one has 24 at 9000. New one has 30 ps at 10500 and kiwi one 38 ps at 12500). http://www.kawasaki.co.nz/kawasaki_custom.cfm?modelcode=EX250F7F&do=specs
Bit of hype mixed with pictures of what is a good looking bike has got people wishing a bit I think. It looks like it should be a lot more powerful than the old one, but in reality it will probably just be a little more refined engine wise. Might explain why there appears to be only a slight price increase in the US.
New bike looks to be taller at 780 seat height vs 740 and with stiffer forks and rear shock with pre-load the new bike will cater for a wider range of riders than the current model.
So I am thinking if we see it here we will have a Ninja that is better looking, will have superior handling and a slightly improved engine that (apparently) is more responsive at lower revs than the current model. Will it be the rocket we were all hoping for? unfortunately it isn't looking that way (although they could be restricting the power output for the Uk bikes to meet the needs of the learners rules)
delusionz
1st October 2007, 21:29
*sigh* Wish I had the 2008 instead, but, alas, the 250cc period only comes once, it's not as though we'll go back there again... So I guess there isn't much sense in fussing about it.
Lteejay
3rd October 2007, 07:45
ooohh - I want I want
idleidolidyll
3rd October 2007, 07:47
Parallel Twin will be way slower than a ZXR250 or CBR.....
sure........like a vee twin ducati is 'way slower' than a yamahaha in line 4...............
deanohit
3rd October 2007, 07:49
Be interesting to see which model we get here,
The difference in power figures is because the European model gets different heads, cams, FI & computer, upgraded electrics,(42hp) and suspension over the US model which puts the cost of the European model above US$6000 (Look at the pricing on the new Yamaha WR250R & X.) Very few people will spend that much on a 250 in the US when the SV-650S is US$6500. So they get the budget model wth poorer suspension and carbs. (35hp) The smaller high-end bikes only work economically in countries with tiered licensing systems like here in NZ, but would anyone be willing to pay US$6000 for a learner/commuter.
unrealone
3rd October 2007, 07:54
Hang on, I thought the Euro model would be restricted due to their learner laws? :/
deanohit
3rd October 2007, 08:16
Hang on, I thought the Euro model would be restricted due to their learner laws? :/
Hope this clears it up for ya mate.
In Europe from 2012 (iirc) there will be even more steps to biking: 15bhp or less (no test required), 33bhp or less (test), and 47bhp or less (test). Greater than 47bhp will only be available once a rider is over 24 and has passed the 33bhp and 47bhp practical tests.
With this bike at 42bhp (unrestricted) it's a perfect fit for those niches. I only hope we see something similar from other marques.
idleidolidyll
3rd October 2007, 08:19
Hope this clears it up for ya mate.
In Europe from 2012 (iirc) there will be even more steps to biking: 15bhp or less (no test required), 33bhp or less (test), and 47bhp or less (test). Greater than 47bhp will only be available once a rider is over 24 and has passed the 33bhp and 47bhp practical tests.
With this bike at 42bhp (unrestricted) it's a perfect fit for those niches. I only hope we see something similar from other marques.
now isnt taht ridiculous!
do they have similar stepped horsepower laws for tin tops?
no WRX's for 18 year olds; restricted to 75 hp 1200cc toyota corolla's until age 24..........................
deanohit
3rd October 2007, 08:23
C'mon mate, we both know the answer to that. Of course not. =(
3nd1355
4th October 2007, 10:24
Hmm... I have been looking at getting a bike for a good three months or more. Have learn't to ride. Now I have the cash and ready to get something.
I have liked the 07 GPX250, I can get a brand new bike, won't give me any trouble in the year I have it before upgrading, then I can sell it so long is its still in nice condition with out to much money lost.
My worry is will the 08 version mean that people won't be happy to buy an 07 thats a year old and done a few ks for $5000 when they could get this flash new one for a grand or so more.
Hmm... What to do.
My other choice is to go for a 2001 Hornet 250.
ZeroIndex
4th October 2007, 12:10
Hmm... I have been looking at getting a bike for a good three months or more. Have learn't to ride. Now I have the cash and ready to get something.
I have liked the 07 GPX250, I can get a brand new bike, won't give me any trouble in the year I have it before upgrading, then I can sell it so long is its still in nice condition with out to much money lost.
My worry is will the 08 version mean that people won't be happy to buy an 07 thats a year old and done a few ks for $5000 when they could get this flash new one for a grand or so more.
Hmm... What to do.
My other choice is to go for a 2001 Hornet 250.
It is quite a possibility that the market for the 07 GPX 250 (and previous) will almost drop all together... have you looked at other sources of single-cylinder 250s to "get you by" until the 08 GPX 250 comes out? There's the Honda CBF250 and the Yamaha ScorpioZ 250... both decent single-cylinder 250s, brand new off the showroom floor... although I think the Yamaha is the cheaper one... and a naked bike (personal opinion) is better to learn on in case you drop it, or do some stupid mistake (like I, and a lot of other bikers did when they were learning to ride) and ... well, drop it... fairing damage is never good, and by starting off on a naked bike, even if just for a few months while you go from learner's to restricted, and then you'll have another bike to look forward to when you get your restricted...
Hope that helps... good luck with whatever path you choose :)
discotex
4th October 2007, 13:58
I have liked the 07 GPX250, I can get a brand new bike, won't give me any trouble in the year I have it before upgrading, then I can sell it so long is its still in nice condition with out to much money lost.
So long as you don't drop it... (not saying you will just something to think about when learning)
Why take the depreciation hit on a new bike. You're probably right that once the 08 GPX lands no-one will pay anything for the old shape. Especially with so many 80's onwards models being exactly the same apart from km's.
Hornet/Bandit/VTR250 are all probably better choices for a first bike.
FkNAmerican
4th October 2007, 14:10
This whole graduated license deal would just drive me CRAZY. The very idea that a person could be expected to go off and fight for thier country as a soldier.......mind you that could mean operating all sorts of dangerous and powerfull military equipment ranging from tanks, apc's, MOTORCYCLES, fighter/bomber aircraft, helicopters, etc.....but couldnt ride a motorcycle over 47hp on public roads b/c of thier age......its just beyond belief really.
Hell....they could legally adopt and raise a child for christs sake......but could they ride around on a 48hp motorcycle? Nope. That would just be irresponsible for a society to let that sort of thing happen.
JESUS. H. CHRIST.
The Pastor
4th October 2007, 15:55
why don't you rub it in our faces?
the laws there becasue people (like the yanks) would go out about buy some 600-1000cc super sport bike as the fist bike they have, then go kill themselfs.
its not perfect, and its a hassle for people like myself who has self controll, but it helps (suposidly - sp) keeps acc prices down.
R6_kid
4th October 2007, 16:27
sure........like a vee twin ducati is 'way slower' than a yamahaha in line 4...............
WTF are you on about? We're talking 250cc here. Capacity for capacity IL4 sports is faster than V2...
For instance:
2006 R6 vs 2006 Moster 600... which is faster?
2006 GSXR750 vs Ducati 749... which isfaster?
2006 R1 vs Ducati 999... which is faster?
Of course for the 749 and 999 you are going to take the full spec Ducati versus a 'stock' GSXR/R1... but if we talk just the basic model and not the Ducati R or S or which ever is their 'best', the IL4 is faster.
When you look at 250 four stroke 'sport' bikes you will not find anything faster than the IL4's like the FZR/CBR/ZXR's... they get minimum 180kmh... some have been clocked up to closer to 200kmh. They were pretty highly tuned bikes from the factory... the VTR250/GT250's are good for around 140-150kmh, and the GPX/ZZR is good for 160-170kmh at a stretch, and the are of a more 'mild' tune, no doubt though still getting near max power for their displacement. I think a 20-40kmh speed advantage can fairly be said to be 'way faster' when we are talking in the range of 10-20% of max speed.
R6_kid
4th October 2007, 16:29
its not perfect, and its a hassle for people like myself who has self controll, but it helps (suposidly - sp) keeps acc prices down.
Who are you trying to fool?
idleidolidyll
4th October 2007, 16:30
'faster' depends on where it's being used.
top speed? acceleration out of a corner? point to point time? racetrack or road?
I stand by my statement
my KTM 640 Supermoto was much 'faster' than most sport bikes I rode with.
nerve2
6th October 2007, 09:57
I'd be willing to bet that the people in charge of motorcycle licensing (in any country) are pretty tight with the car manufacturers as well as the oil companies- otherwise this WOULD be happening for cars as well.
Let's review... 16 year old buys R1.. Crashes.. Dies.. 16 year old buys Evo. Crashes, causes pile up, kills himself and other people.
Don't get me wrong, I think comprehensive training and education should be required to get a license, but making it mandatory for bikes based purely on power, and completey ignoring cars altogether is blatant corrupt politics at work...
Make it easy to get motorcycles = less cars = less traffic = less oil = less kickbacks.
crshbndct
6th October 2007, 10:24
the licensing laws based on power are better than based on capacity. for example, you can buy a aprilia rs250, with 73 hp, and ride it legally. not the best option for kids to learn on.
however, a gs500, or something similiar, 400-600cctwin with about 45-50hp is better to learn on than the aprilia, but is illegal to ride.
even the 250cc il4's havent got the best power delivery for a learner. they are also only 45-50hp, but its all at a million revs, and guys thrashing bikes just to keep up. a nice 500cc twin with 50hp, and a torque curve as lat as a pancake, is a better option.
i got a 400cc il4 for my first bike, and wrote in to be allowed to ride it. i didnt use any of the "is too small" arguments against 250's, i merely pointed out that its 53hp(actually 59, but whos going to look) and that the aprilia has 72hp, and nearly twice the power/weight ratio. they were happy with that. i also sent in pictures of it and becasue it wasnt a super faired sports bike, but a naked, they were more happy to let me ride it.
i got my learners, and just wiated till i was on a restricted before getting a bike though.
Hillbilly
7th October 2007, 04:04
It's a leap forward from the dated GPX & ZZR. There's another article HERE (http://www.motorcycledaily.com/25september07_2008kawasaki_ninja_250r.htm) as well as some better pix:
3nd1355
8th October 2007, 12:07
Thanks Zero Index and Discotex for the advice.
Was never interested in single cylinder. I went with a nice Hornet 250 in the end. 2001, done 5000km. Stoked with my buy. Just waiting on it to be vin'd.
:headbang:
ZeroIndex
8th October 2007, 12:45
Thanks Zero Index and Discotex for the advice.
Was never interested in single cylinder. I went with a nice Hornet 250 in the end. 2001, done 5000km. Stoked with my buy. Just waiting on it to be vin'd.
:headbang:
That's awesome to hear... GIJoe1313 has a 250 Hornet and has done millions of km's on it... When you get the bike vinned, give him a PM, as I'm sure he has some helpful advice, he's always keen on a ride, and seems like a nice bloke from the couple times I've been on rides with him :)
discotex
8th October 2007, 14:58
Thanks Zero Index and Discotex for the advice.
Was never interested in single cylinder. I went with a nice Hornet 250 in the end. 2001, done 5000km. Stoked with my buy. Just waiting on it to be vin'd.
:headbang:
No worries mate. Great getting your first bike eh! I'm looking forward to getting my second in a month or two.
brit-bloke
8th October 2007, 15:25
I like the look of the new bike...a nice addition to the ninja family :2thumbsup
disenfranchised
9th October 2007, 07:23
As for Hyosung, I am sorry but there time in the light is coming to an end.
If this had been out when I got my Hyosung, I defintely would have been looking at it instead.
Of course it might have come down do comfort or price
The Hyosung will still be a contender I reckon for the taller riders. The GT250R is not badly spec'd either with dual front discs, upside down forks etc..and with the 2008 model coming out with fuel injection, and some new colours it'll still attract buyers...as long as the price is competitive.
looks great, bout time some one gave Hyo a run for its money in the new bike department, i wonder if the motor is just a trimmed down version of the Er6f motor, kawasaki seem to like these paralell twin jobbies.
The motor will be the exact same ZZR model they've always had wont it?
fireball
9th October 2007, 11:57
so is it being released in nz?
off to buy a bike today to replace my FXR (temp fix) then saving for my new bike
that kwaka has me interested still
unrealone
9th October 2007, 12:29
so is it being released in nz?
off to buy a bike today to replace my FXR (temp fix) then saving for my new bike
that kwaka has me interested still
Yes - it will be released in NZ.
Zzz, 10 character minimum length :P
Northpoint
9th October 2007, 19:12
Yes it looks very nice indeed
steved
9th October 2007, 19:12
The very idea that a person could be expected to go off and fight for thier country as a soldier but couldnt ride a motorcycle over 47hp on public roads b/c of thier age......its just beyond belief really.
Hell....they could legally adopt and raise a child for christs sake......but could they ride around on a 48hp motorcycle? Nope. That would just be irresponsible for a society to let that sort of thing happen.
JESUS. H. CHRIST.
How about a American soldier having a single beer? Illegal isn't it? Which do you think is more dangerous? A beer or giving a 200hp bike to a n00b?
Quartermile
10th October 2007, 22:27
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1241934#post1241934
:D:D
imdying
25th October 2007, 22:40
Once again with late model bikes, I find the photos deceiving. In the flesh it looks like a piece of crap, especially compared to the Hyosung GTR250. It's that ghey.
gamgee
26th October 2007, 13:59
it looks like it's still got a very upright riding position, just like the gpx, looks good, probably handles good, should be a good learners bike
imdying
26th October 2007, 14:08
Very upright. Handlebars like a CB250, nothing like a ZXR250 at all (i.e. not clip ons). Should be a fantastic leaners bike :yes: It is very much a repainted GPX. Having seen it... $5250 would be about what I'd want to pay... come to think of it, I didn't see a price tag on it. Had a look on the bikepoint site... didn't realise a ZZR250 could be brought new in NZ... POA, wankers :rolleyes:
HTFU
26th October 2007, 14:18
Very upright. Handlebars like a CB250, nothing like a ZXR250 at all (i.e. not clip ons). Should be a fantastic leaners bike :yes: It is very much a repainted GPX. Having seen it... $5250 would be about what I'd want to pay... come to think of it, I didn't see a price tag on it. Had a look on the bikepoint site... didn't realise a ZZR250 could be brought new in NZ... POA, wankers :rolleyes:
where did you see the bike?
imdying
26th October 2007, 14:19
Some place in Richmond, Nelson :yes: Filco?
/edit: Not on there site... prerelease demo perhaps?
imdying
26th October 2007, 18:20
where did you see the bike?You flick Filco an email to see what the deal is... if it's just a display/demo model do the rounds, you should find out when it'll be in a shop near you :yes:
Buddy L
26th October 2007, 19:01
also comes with peddle disc's as well, something to brag about.
skidMark
26th October 2007, 19:06
Sorry to burst ya bubble guys....
but kawasaki NZ are not going to bring them in , mainly for american market only...
as they would be 8k-9k retail here...according to mt eden mc's.
so he said hes pretty certain that kawasaki new zealand are not bringing them in, this from head of sales.
Bugger.....
imdying
26th October 2007, 19:31
Must've been a migfent of my imgafunation :rolleyes:
onearmedbandit
26th October 2007, 22:43
Must've been a migfent of my imgafunation :rolleyes:
Mine as well. But of course there was the little squares of paper.
$CENSLS1$
27th October 2007, 08:32
Very cool looking bike, I'm sure it'll sell well here in little old NZ :devil2:Can't see learners sticking to the '70km/h rule' on one of those though :rolleyes::Police:
JeremyW
27th October 2007, 09:37
Same steel frame....same parallel twin....same front forks....same "I sit like this when I take a shit" riding position...All new design huh? Pfft its a GPX with different fairings.
imdying
27th October 2007, 09:46
Same steel frame....same parallel twin....same front forks....same "I sit like this when I take a shit" riding position...All new design huh? Pfft its a GPX with different fairings.That was my exact impression after seeing it in the flesh.
Dave-
7th November 2007, 21:48
Sorry to burst ya bubble guys....
but kawasaki NZ are not going to bring them in , mainly for american market only...
as they would be 8k-9k retail here...according to mt eden mc's.
so he said hes pretty certain that kawasaki new zealand are not bringing them in, this from head of sales.
Bugger.....
wee bit of necro here
but are we all agreed that there wont be any of these bought new into NZ?
mark isnt making this up? this is fact?
if one wanted to get one, and was willing to pay, how much and how?
I'm gonna call the kawasaki dealer
Pathos
8th November 2007, 19:56
When I talked to hamilton motorcycles they believed they were going to come in at around the same price as the old model but had nothing on paper.
I would be surprised if they didn't. They must have noticed how hyosungs were selling like hot cakes here instead of the gpx250, they can charge a premium in New Zealand as well and the 250 market is large because to petrol prices and learner restrictions.
Rather a unisex bike too.
Dave-
8th November 2007, 21:33
price?
13?
Indiana_Jones
8th November 2007, 22:53
I think Red Baron have a few in for $11,995 each
-Indy
Weaver
8th November 2007, 23:00
I think Red Baron have a few in for $11,995 each
-Indy
Was considering trading in my Hyo for one. But not at that price
onearmedbandit
8th November 2007, 23:13
He's taking the piss (I hope) at Red Baron's pricing.
ehab2weelr
9th November 2007, 11:07
I was tolled that they would retail for about 7-8000, which sounds like that’s how much they should be retailed at if they wan to compete with hyo.
Dave-
9th November 2007, 11:13
norjos down here can get 'em, on road at $6400 brand spanking new.
I dunno though...do i want the 250R or a rs250?
ehab2weelr
10th November 2007, 15:24
norjos down here can get 'em, on road at $6400 brand spanking new.
I dunno though...do i want the 250R or a rs250?
you want the rs250 mate. :niceone:
kneescraper
10th November 2007, 17:13
Now thats a sexy arse bike....kinda...just kinda looks like the Hyosung GT250r...kinda. I would buy one..if I was in the market for a new 250cc.
Indiana_Jones
11th November 2007, 16:55
I've heard they're gonna be $8000 from the shop.
Yea, I was piss taking about Red Baron prices.....I hope...
-Indy
Dave-
11th November 2007, 16:59
Debunking myths.
$6400 on the road
yes they will be stocking them, yes they can get them now
no I am not getting one.
HTFU
11th November 2007, 20:08
Debunking myths.
$6400 on the road
yes they will be stocking them, yes they can get them now
no I am not getting one.
amazing how thats the exact price of the 2007 model. $5995 + orc. :whistle:
unrealone
11th November 2007, 20:40
Now thats a sexy arse bike....kinda...just kinda looks like the Hyosung GT250r...kinda. I would buy one..if I was in the market for a new 250cc.
It doesn't look anything like a Hyosung O_o Are you ok? :wacko:
deanohit
11th November 2007, 20:49
Wonder what he's smoking? Looks completly different from the front and side, only similarity I see is from behind, but then alot of bikes look similer from behind.
Unless thats what your meaning Kneescraper when you say "kinda...just kinda looks like the Hyosung GT250r...kinda."
Dave-
11th November 2007, 22:33
amazing how thats the exact price of the 2007 model. $5995 + orc. :whistle:
this is what I was told when i asked specificly for the 2008, she even repeated "ah the 2008? seen it on the internet huh?" "why yes" I ses so she ses "let me go check", so in the background she ses i hear her ses "ahh the 2008 250 ninja? we getting them?" some fella ses, he ses "2008? yeah wubba wubba waah" she comes back and ses she ses "yeah we're getting them, six thousand four hundred, we currently have an 07 in, which we'll move before we get the 08 but if you came in with the dosh and ses 'you want' we'd get" that's what she ses to me.
so i ses to her i ses "oh cool, thanks" and I ring off.
dave_a
11th November 2007, 22:37
can i get a contact number for that place dave?:niceone:
Dave-
12th November 2007, 01:02
can i get a contact number for that place dave?:niceone:
Hi dave!
http://yellow.co.nz/companies/Motorcycles&Scooters/Norjo-Motorcycles/100073012_1187.html
there ya go dave.
dave dave dave dave
Wheeliemonsta
12th November 2007, 07:09
Gidday All,
The new GPX's (EX 250-J8F) are not due in the country until March or April 08 & the reatil price has not yet been set...
You're all getting a wee bit confused here... :Oops:
The $6400.00 retail deal is for the old style "GPX" (EX 250-F6F~F7F) & is a "while stock lasts" situation...
Sorry to burst your collective bubbles folks - but facts is facts
Cheers
:rockon:
FkNAmerican
12th November 2007, 13:50
Sux for you guys.......
My dealer told me they have shipping orders in now and are expecting to have them on the floor mid December....... Of course, my other dealer tells me mid November. We will see.
One thing is certain. Out the door price in the U.S. is $3,600-$3,800 so you Kiwi's break out your calculators and do the math on that.
The way I figure it.....
Step One: Convert $3,700 USD into NZD which makes it $4,875 (at least at the time I calculated anyway).
Step Two: Take that $4,875 and add a little bit considering the cost of importing to NZ. Im gonna go with $5,500
Step Three: Take that $5,500 and add to it the obligatory rip off price hike b/c its NZ. I have $7,000 or so.
So there's yiour answer: $7,000 OTD give or take a few bucks.
I know I know. Its more an art then a science buts thats my best guestimate.
Wheeliemonsta
12th November 2007, 14:03
Sux for you guys.......
My dealer told me they have shipping orders in now and are expecting to have them on the floor mid December....... Of course, my other dealer tells me mid November. We will see.
One thing is certain. Out the door price in the U.S. is $3,600-$3,800 so you Kiwi's break out your calculators and do the math on that.
The way I figure it.....
Step One: Convert $3,700 USD into NZD which makes it $4,875 (at least at the time I calculated anyway).
Step Two: Take that $4,875 and add a little bit considering the cost of importing to NZ. Im gonna go with $5,500
Step Three: Take that $5,500 and add to it the obligatory rip off price hike b/c its NZ. I have $7,000 or so.
So there's yiour answer: $7,000 OTD give or take a few bucks.
I know I know. Its more an art then a science buts thats my best guestimate.
Mid to high nines plus O.R.C I would expect...
Cheers
:rockon:
imdying
12th November 2007, 14:28
Dunno about suxs for us... as it turns out, it's mutton dressed as lamb, so no loss.
Dave-
12th November 2007, 17:39
Dunno about suxs for us... as it turns out, it's mutton dressed as lamb, so no loss.
so i've read too....kinda glad I didn't bother going into norjos to have a look...
Dakara
13th November 2007, 14:19
Just to add my 2c here...
I got a GT250R today, and as most people probably know Kawasaki is the NZ Hyosung importer, hence why anyone selling Hyosung sells Kawasaki.
Anyway, I enquired about the Ninja 250 and was told they will be selling for roughly $8,500 but wasn't given an eta.
FkNAmerican
14th November 2007, 07:52
jeezuz........thats alot of $$$ for a lil' 250.
That kinda money could pic me up a GSXR600 easy!!! Yikes.
Hillbilly
14th November 2007, 17:38
Don't forget the little Aprilia Rs125, cagiva Mito 125 and Honda VRT250 are a whisker under AUD$10,000 - around AUD$9.990!! :shit:
BTW, picked up a repo'd 2007 GPX with only 2000 km on the clock for AUD$4,500 today. Been dropped, but no major damage, just scraped plastic on the left side.
TOTO
19th November 2007, 12:30
...but would anyone be willing to pay US$6000 for a learner/commuter.
well , I guess all the hyosung riders can answer that question for ya :)
Filter_nz
6th December 2007, 09:36
Besides the headlight and ugly muffler, that ninja looks like a hyo rip-off with a bit of zx6r breed into it. The promo vid looks like it's aimed at Indonesian 125cc riders looking for some attention. Be interesting to see them side by side. I'm sure power wise it will beat the hyo but I'm not convinced it'll be a better value bike coming in at a possible 1k more than the hyo just because it has Kawasaki written on the tank. my 2c.
Skinny_Birdman
6th December 2007, 12:15
I personally would prefer to pay 6K for a new bike than 6K for a 15 year old ZXR. Just my 0.02c.
They didn't stop making 250cc fours 15 years ago, it's just that they rarely seem to turn up in NZ. Try this bad boy on for size.
http://www.bikepics.com/pictures/051797/
Although I'm not sure, it may be a slightly older 250 with AM bodywork. And of course, either way you'll never see one here, but tasty 4cyl. 250s do exist.
marioc
6th December 2007, 12:40
god thats sexy
deanohit
6th December 2007, 13:00
Although I'm not sure, it may be a slightly older 250 with AM bodywork. And of course, either way you'll never see one here, but tasty 4cyl. 250s do exist.
Sorry mate, but that just looks like the TYGA body work on there, they do look good with it though, it really brings the styling up to date:
imdying
6th December 2007, 13:01
Looks like tyga bodywork?
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