Why so cheap?

[marioc]

I love the look of this bike?
Why are they so cheap,a heap of shite?
Suitable step up from my 250?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-120904810.htm

[Hitcher]

Naked bikes aren't that popular in New Zealand for some reason. Go figure. And it's reasonably well priced. Check out used Honda CB900 Hornets for a comparison.

And it would be a great "step" bike from a 250.

[cowboyz]

the gsx is a tried and true formula that has been working for suzuki for many many years. Looks like a pretty tidy bike for a naked bike (not a fan of nakeds myself)

25000km so it still got plenty of life left in it.

I wouldnt have said it be cheap. Fair would be the wording I would put on it. Probably just looks cheap cause of the insane prices people put on second hand bikes.


But as always... buyer beware.

[Smokin]

Is it a pommy import? looks like one of their rego holders on the raidiator.
If it is it's likely to have a corrosion problem with all the salt on the roads.

[yod]

all new discs after 25000km??

[Hitcher]

They were probably rusty. 25,000km is fuck all distance. I do more than that in a year, let alone considering that this bike is 10 years old. More than likely it's been parked up somewhere for a while.

[scracha]

I wouldn't consider a 9 year old bike for nearly 5 grand cheap. They were only about 10 grand new..


I love the look of this bike?
Why are they so cheap,a heap of shite?
Suitable step up from my 250?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-120904810.htm

[hospitalfood]

oil cooled, carbs, twin rear shocks.........its low tech......means it cheaper to make, has less to go wrong and is easier to fix.
won't match the pace of an R6, but not a bad bike at all.

[rogson]

Not shite at all - in fact a great all-rounder.

The GSX750 was made from 98 to 03/04. They were sold new in NZ in 2001 (called the GSX750Y), so parts, etc are available from Suzuki dealers.
They were called GSX750 "Retro" in the UK and "Inazuma" in continental Europe.

Not popular in NZ because the UJM/retro look is seen as old-fashioed by many and also because there is a 1200 version of the same bike, so many/most buyers went for that.

I have a 1200 and a mate with a 750. The (stock) 1200 is a lot gruntier in the low to mid-range but is not much faster in the top-end (1200 is restricted in stock trim). The geometry and running gear are almost identical but the 750 feels a lot smaller/lighter/nimbler than the 1200 to ride. In fact, the 750 is probably the better choice if most of your riding is commuting/tootling around town.

Suzuki has a number of other choices in the middle-weight standard class, such as the Bandit 600 and the GSX600F and GSX750F (F for faired models). I have ridden them all and the GSX750Y is easily the best of the bunch IMO. It is the lightest (even a few KG lighter than the Bandit 600), most comfortable, has the best everyday motor (strongest low to midrange), and best overall running gear package (brakes, suspension, wheels, etc).

Yep, good bikes - but white?

[marioc]

Ok cheers guys,looks like it ticks all the boxes for me.
Basically I use my bike to do a bit of everything.
Ride to work,weekend fanging and I would like to be able do a bit of touring as well.

[idleidolidyll]

I love the look of this bike?
Why are they so cheap,a heap of shite?
Suitable step up from my 250?

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-120904810.htm


cheap? hardly; it's nearly 10 years old after all and frankly butt ugly

[marioc]

Not ugly to me buddy I think its sexy,show me another decent middleweight naked bike for that money?

[gsp0702]

Looks as thoughit has come over from the UK, but having done less than 1700 miles a year (3000km's) the likely hood that the bike left the garage in the UK between October and May is probably zero. New discs were probably fitted to get it certified for NZ use, had to do the same on my Tiger when i bought it over, would have WOF'd ok but were below limites for certification so had to be changed.

[idleidolidyll]

Not ugly to me buddy I think its sexy,show me another decent middleweight naked bike for that money?

how many do you need? Some are as butt ugly as that Suzuki though and you might have to take the fairing off others to make them as ugly.

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[marioc]

That Kawasaki is nice a ZR7 tell me more?,the 600 hornet as well
Still nothing as good looking as the Suzi in there though ;)

[idleidolidyll]

That Kawasaki is nice a ZR7 tell me more?,the 600 hornet as well
Still nothing as good looking as the Suzi in there though ;)

yep, beauty sure as hell is in the eyes of the beholder.

the kwaka is as ugly as the zookie; maybe it's the silly white colour...........

[rogson]

ZR7 and GSX750Y are very similar bikes. ZR7 engine is an even older design than the GSX and peak HP is about 10HP less than the GSX (ZR7 - 75HP, GSX 86 HP). However, low and mid-range power are very similar. Both weigh 200kg (dry).

ZR7 has more modern styling and has a single shock verses GSX's twin shocks (doesn't necessarily work any better though). Kawasaki upgraded the ZR7 in 2004/5? to the Z750, which features a liquid cooled, fuel injected 100+HP engine, upsided-down forks (I think), and a bunch of other goodies.

Biggest practical difference between the ZR7 and GSX is probably fuel capacity - ZR7 is 22 litres verses GSX @ 18 litres. There is also a semi-faired version of the ZR7.

Go here for more info and some nice pics of (non-white) GSXs:http://inazuma.mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/index.jhtml

[marioc]

So given what I use the bike for do you think it will do the job,I do enjoy my early morning weekends fangs with the wee bandit so easy to throw around through the twisties,what I dont like is the lack of torque on the mudane commute to work,something with a bit more grunt down low would be great,but I dont want to be stuck with a fat unexicting slug for the weekend.
Am I asking to much here or looking at totally the wrong sort of bike?
Max budget about 10g

[idleidolidyll]

..........what I dont like is the lack of torque on the mudane commute to work,something with a bit more grunt down low would be great,but I dont want to be stuck with a fat unexicting slug for the weekend.
...........

and you're looking at inline fours? methinks you've just made a case for a torquey twin or even a big single. There was a Ducati Monster amongst the bikes I looked at on tradeMe; now THAT is a bike with "a bit more grunt down low" and certainly not the "fat unexicting slug" that suzuki looks to be.
There was also a KTM Supermoto; a bike that'll happily dust off any sport bike in the twisties given equal riding ability.

[marioc]

Me thinks I need to test ride a few..cheers for the help guys

[MSTRS]

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This one is owned by a KBer who sometimes rides with us in HB. It is almost showroom mint!!

[idleidolidyll]

Me thinks I need to test ride a few..cheers for the help guys

that's the attitude!

test ride with an open mind. ride singles, twins, triples and fours. ride jappas and euros, ride 500's, 600's, 750's, 900's and litre bikes.
use em all on the same bit of road you enjoy the best and after you've whittled the choice down to a few; ride them again back to back on the same road and the same day.

i started off with jappa 2 strokes, moved to MX for a long time then to jappa 4's for ages before I started to realise that, on the road, high revving 4's were slower in the fun bits (for me) than torquey twins and singles. My current bike doesn't even have a tacho and it doesn't need one. Just open the throttle at any speed and it gets up and hauls.

[DMNTD]

... then to jappa 4's for ages before I started to realise that, on the road, high revving 4's were slower in the fun bits (for me) than torquey twins and singles. My current bike doesn't even have a tacho and it doesn't need one. Just open the throttle at any speed and it gets up and hauls.
100% agreed...took me a while(years) to be enlightened but now I have...well.

With a 10G budget a decent bike will be easy to find.
GSR600 is another good commuter/fun machine that rides extremely well.

[tri boy]

cheap? hardly; it's nearly 10 years old after all and frankly butt ugly

and KTMs have such smooth, flowing lines designed into them:puke::killingme

[idleidolidyll]

100% agreed...took me a while(years) to be enlightened but now I have...well.

With a 10G budget a decent bike will be easy to find.
GSR600 is another good commuter/fun machine that rides extremely well.

I'd have laid odds that you had more fun on the superduke than the 1400 whale

i can understand having both though; WHEN I HAD THE 640sm i ALSO HAD AN xjr1300sp TO TAKE THE MISSUS ON

[idleidolidyll]

and KTMs have such smooth, flowing lines designed into them:puke::killingme

ha! ha! yeah! i've been waiting for someone to make that comment and fair enough too. I reckon most jappa sportbikes are boring, they all look like toyota corollas (universal japanese design) with only the paint jobs to distinguish one from the other.
mind you, side by side i'd take the looks of the moto over that ugly zooki any day

[RC1]

Max budget about 10g

you can buy my TLS for less than that

[DMNTD]

I'd have laid odds that you had more fun on the superduke than the 1400 whale

i can understand having both though; WHEN I HAD THE 640sm i ALSO HAD AN xjr1300sp TO TAKE THE MISSUS ON

I sold my MINT '07 ZX10 SE with mod's (176RWHP) to get the Superduke R.
There is NO comparison when it comes to the corners and PLENTY of balls when required.
Fun? The word doesn't even come close! I'm forever laughing my head off when ever and where ever I ride the beast but with the ZX10 I felt like I had to double the limit before I started having "fun".

The ZX14 is a tool pretty much. Long haul touring/riding and surprisingly fun considering what it is. It's also primarily my missus' bike too.
Currently saving for a super charger as have been bitten by the drag racing buzz.

[idleidolidyll]

DMTD; you hold exactly the same attitude as I do

I too found that on the fours, I had to be doing a zillion kph to have fun. On the 950SM I have so much more fun at much saner speeds and there is no comparison when it comes to handling: the KTM rocks!

Too many people are obsessed with peak power and the lies told about 'dry weight'. They should just go out and do some back to back road tests.

That said, I like being 'different'. We aint there to win world champs and half the battle is just being different to the run of the mill mass production stuff

[idleidolidyll]

you can buy my TLS for less than that

now there's a good road bike with plenty of torque

[rogson]

10g - bloody hell, you can get two good reliable bikes for that money, i.e. a chalk one and a cheese one.
Why not....?

[RC1]

now there's a good road bike with plenty of torque

sure is not the fastest bike but heaps of fun and you dont have to ride fast for a good ride IMHO

[Pancakes]

now there's a good road bike with plenty of torque

Thats what I thought when I read that, TL, sweet bike for parts etc and plenty down low. There's a 650 (bored to 700) SM at Wild West Honda at the mo'. Sooo tempted but no place for the lady on the back. Would be fun for africa! All road legal, upgraded front brake, custom Ti pipe etc.

[idleidolidyll]

Thats what I thought when I read that, TL, sweet bike for parts etc and plenty down low. There's a 650 (bored to 700) SM at Wild West Honda at the mo'. Sooo tempted but no place for the lady on the back. Would be fun for africa! All road legal, upgraded front brake, custom Ti pipe etc.

indeed, much better real world road bikes those torquey twins

[Dazza]

indeed, much better real world road bikes those torquey twins No argument here :clap:Nearly 37000k's on the clock & still gives me the big grin factor every time I take her out ;)

[idleidolidyll]

No argument here :clap:Nearly 37000k's on the clock & still gives me the big grin factor every time I take her out ;)

didn't you used to come to AMPS to get your bike serviced?

I was working there at the time

[Dazza]

didn't you used to come to AMPS to get your bike serviced?

I was working there at the timeYes most certainly did & still do, that's when I had the Mille R & the LC4 Duke & you had the KTM motard,Mike isn't it ?

[idleidolidyll]

Yes most certainly did & still do, that's when I had the Mille R & the LC4 Duke & you had the KTM motard,Mike isn't it ?

yep, that's me

i remember you well. the wheelie guy :2thumbsup

[Dazza]

yep, that's me

i remember you well. the wheelie guy :2thumbsupSsshh the missus might hear you, man it gets around :shifty:

[Bonez]

The gsx750 is probably a great "real world" bike that'll do 1000 of miles of relatively trouble free motocycling. You know, a sleeper everyone raves about as being boring but is anything but. Cheap, underated, reliable and owner servicable. What more could anyone want?

Disks were probably affected by salt on pom winter roads. Another factor to consider when buying it. As mentioned get out and try a selection of bikes. Its fun.

37,000kms pfffffff, chicken feed. I've got two inline fours with over 130,000kms up. I do understand the v-twin and single angle though. Isn't it nice to have a choice?