How many k's do you get to a tank? [Archive]

aff-man

13th October 2004, 16:43

Shit that is damn good hell i only got like 220 out of the zxr250. (maybe it's the way i rode it :laugh: :Oops: :bleh: ) but i get about 200 or more out of the 400. i really don't know the limit cause i fill up at about 200 every time just to be safe otherwise i'll end up :brick: :brick: :argh:

Motu

13th October 2004, 16:51

The XLV750 does around 17km/l and gets about 280km to dry and stuck on the side of the road,but 245 to reserve.The XT400 does over 20km/l and my 20l tank should go to around 450km,I've gone 370km and not gone onto reserve,so I don't really know yet,I have two reserve taps and would like to see how far I can get on one side,but I ride away from civilisation and tend to fill when I can.

Blakamin

13th October 2004, 16:53

about 270 before reserve.... 15l tank all up... and thats giving it heaps

Joni

13th October 2004, 17:06

My CBR gives you about 250/260 a tank...

StoneChucker

13th October 2004, 17:23

My girl get about 210kms before the fuel light comes on, and I reckon 250kms would be getting close to running out.

She has an 18L purse

13th October 2004, 17:36

I re-fuel after 180kms

I'm paranoid that i'll get stuck in buttfuck no where, on the side of the road.

matthewt

13th October 2004, 18:06

The Brutale runs at around 9k/L , I've actually run out at 175k (19L tank!), that was all around town riding so hopefully touring should be a bit better.

I think that works out at about 25mpg.

Before anyone asks, no it's not running rich. All the Brutales are that bad. My previous MVF4 did 40mpg and could do 300k on a tank, 350k if you really had to and you took it easy.

dangerous

13th October 2004, 18:11

Well the Guzzi (2 valve head) would get me 200-220km with a 19L tank which was really only 14.3L... (bloody Italians dont think that they go too school)
The Firestorm gets me 250km on a 19L tank (series 1 storms have a 16L tank)

Blackbird

13th October 2004, 18:14

You've got big balls doing the 1000-miler on it Matt. :2thumbsup What's the story? Can't all be aerodynamic differences between the F4 and Brutale surely?

The best I've got out of the 'bird is ~330k's, but have a bit of a blat with the boys and you're down to under 250 k's. Injected Hondas are known for sucking it up at larger throttle openings.

Cheers

Geoff

digsaw

13th October 2004, 18:21

umm 212 kms to reserve but it was running rich and riden hard.Fitted new float needles and hoping for a better range :apint: :apint:

toads

13th October 2004, 18:35

I get 250kms for $8 approximately, it depends on the air temperature

riffer

13th October 2004, 19:11

You've got big balls doing the 1000-miler on it Matt. :2thumbsup What's the story? Can't all be aerodynamic differences between the F4 and Brutale surely?

It's got to be something to do with how they changed the power profile for the Brutale. It's been changed so its got more grunt in the midrange hasn't it Matt?

My FZR has a 20 litre tank, with about 3 litres in reserve.

It used to get 300km untl reserve, but since I derestricted it, its now doing about 265-270 before going on to reserve. I use it mainly for commuting in traffic between Upper Hutt and Wellington 5 days a week, with the odd burn over the Rimutakas in the weekends.

Off the lights I give it heaps in the first two gears but tend to just ride in the "Meat" of the torque curve (thanks for that phrase Jim2) around 5-8000rpm, or if I'm just putting through traffic, around 4000rpm.

sAsLEX

13th October 2004, 19:34

Anyone know how much/far my XR250 will hold/go???

scumdog

13th October 2004, 19:38

So far about 23,000km and still on the original tank!!! :wacko:

Normally once I'm over the 200km I start looking for a petrol station.
The old-fashioned way I get over 55pmg, even two-up.
Theres an old bikers saying "want to know where a gas station is? - ask a Sporty owner" :msn-wink:

Hitcher

13th October 2004, 20:07

The Zrex has a 17 litre tank. Onto reserve at about 250km (plus or minus), breathing fumes at about 300km.

Posh Tourer :P

13th October 2004, 20:25

So far about 23,000km and still on the original tank!!! :wacko:

Got ya there - 80,000kms, but we have had to repaint the tank once.

I normally get 270kms to reserve, and 300 is safe, fill up with 20L 15kms/L That is all commuting, and I'm not nice to it either.

Its a 24L tank, one tap and maori reserve.

On the open road, I'll happily get 350kms to reserve, maybe 400 to a fill.
20kms/L

campbellluke

13th October 2004, 20:48

1991 GSX250s Katana replica.

17 litre tank. 3 L is the reserve.

I get between 200-220 km , before I hit the reserve

MrMelon

13th October 2004, 20:57

I've been getting 200km pretty reliably before hitting reserve lately. Usually at about 220km I fill up with 15 litres. It's mainly commuting, so maybe touring would bet a bit better mileage.

Magua

13th October 2004, 21:12

:( 10k's to a litre. I'd do something about it but I've got no money.

scumdog

13th October 2004, 21:31

:( 10k's to a litre. I'd do something about it but I've got no money.
Are you sure? - I assume it IS a bike you're talking about?

My 302 V8 does just under that on a trip!!!! :shit:

カワサキキド

13th October 2004, 21:53

So far about 23,000km and still on the original tank!!! :wacko: ]

The zxr got up to 53,000 before it had the tank replaced.
My brother only got about 50km's out of the gpx's tank.

Artifice

13th October 2004, 22:04

on my gsxr400 i get 13.9Km/L. its a little rich on the bottom end but im not entirely sure thats the whole story. its got an arrows exhaust and god only knows about the jetting. its a 16litre tank so that make hmmm 220 km's to a tank including the reserve.

Zapf

14th October 2004, 00:01

I have been mostly using my bike to kane across town to get to uni, and have been getting from 230 to 270 km's from my 15l tank.
250/15= 16.67 km to a litre.

Ermm this is the thing I don't understand... I also have a Honda jazz (cage) and that does around 18~19km/L putting around auckland. Why does a car get better mileage than a bike? Even when the bike is like 1/4 the weight...?

thehollowmen

14th October 2004, 00:08

I did 200 km on $6 ... a bit around town in chch and then highway speeds back...

really gotta change that rear sprocket though to get a nicer top end speed

Mr Skid

14th October 2004, 01:23

Ermm this is the thing I don't understand... I also have a Honda jazz (cage) and that does around 18~19km/L putting around auckland. Why does a car get better mileage than a bike? Even when the bike is like 1/4 the weight...?

I'm not sure if it's a valid comparison to make, but if you compare the power output of your bike - 33hp or 24.27kW iirc from 250cc displacement, with that to the Honda Jazz which makes 81 kW from 1500cc displacement, then if your car had the same power/displacement ratio as your bike it'd be a 145kW fire breathing Honda Jazz.

Maybe it's not an entirely valid comparison between a 2 pot and a 4 pot engine, and it's quite possible that these calculations aren't scalable with displacement, but it would suggest to me that your bike is more highly tuned than your car, which I would assume would account for the higher fuel consumption.

Technology differences would be a factor as well. The VTR is a twin carb setup (iirc) while the Jazz is a fuel injected variable valved thingy, which would tend to increase it's efficency.

I'd think that from a marketing perspective, Honda would be more concerned with fuel consumption figures in selling a car than they would be in selling a bike.

Can anyone offer any alternative perspectives / debunk my logic on this?

Magua

14th October 2004, 05:52

Are you sure? - I assume it IS a bike you're talking about?

My 302 V8 does just under that on a trip!!!! :shit:

FZR250, I don't why it gets shit economy. Leak? Mixing? Carbs? No idea.

matthewt

14th October 2004, 05:59

It's got to be something to do with how they changed the power profile for the Brutale. It's been changed so its got more grunt in the midrange hasn't it Matt?

Most likely that will be the cause. They are the same engine just with different tuning. Part of the problem is also that they geared it for 250kph, so putting along at 100 is over 5,000rpm whereas the F4 would be sitting on 4,000rpm.

I'm hoping to get a new injection chip before the Big50 ride at New Years so that is meant to give an extra 10% or so.

I don't mind paying for so much gas but the reduced range is a hassle. (sounds like a good reason to trade it on a 1000cc f4! :yeah: )

rodgerd

14th October 2004, 06:38

About 16 km/l around town, and up to 20 km/l with open road riding.

(And about 13 km/l when running two cylinders with a cracked ignition coil...)

rodgerd

14th October 2004, 06:41

Ermm this is the thing I don't understand... I also have a Honda jazz (cage) and that does around 18~19km/L putting around auckland. Why does a car get better mileage than a bike? Even when the bike is like 1/4 the weight...?

Fuel injection can make a big difference - for example, the SV650 reviewed in KB was making better mileage than my Bandit 250, depsite the fact twins are normally greedier than fours economy-wise.

Also look at how hard you're working the respective engines. How quick do you get to the speed limit from the lights on your bike, versus your car, for example? And don't forget that a well-designed car has a much lower coefficient of drag than all but the most aerodynamic bikes, so cruising at a given speed may require less work by the engine.

FzerozeroT

14th October 2004, 07:30

long trips are fun, I get ~120km a tank cuising ~100km thrashing, well thats the price you pay for power

Fryin Finn

14th October 2004, 07:43

I've had my SRX600 for 10 years now. When I first bought it with 48,000k's it went 180km to reserve. When I fitted standard gearing to new chain and sprocket it went 200km. When I bought a new muffler and had it dynotuned it went 220km. When I changed jobs and commuted a bit further it went 240km. When I fitted a slightly larger rear tyre it went 250km. And when I put a new air filter in (std item) it got up to 280km before going on reserve. I reckon it could go well over 300km on 14L. The bike is now 86,000km old.
My XJR goes to 245k before reserve I estimate 310km to dry.
My old TRX went 360km to dry and I've had up to 25km/l
:apint:

Devil

14th October 2004, 07:48

130km or so on 10 litres. greh.

vifferman

14th October 2004, 07:51

Oh, HUNDREDS! Thousands, even!

In reality? About 10km/litre, if I'm lucky, or have done some highway miles. Have to fill it up every 8 work days, and I've had to push it twice when I sucked the tank dry...

Hitcher

14th October 2004, 07:54

Ermm this is the thing I don't understand... I also have a Honda jazz (cage) and that does around 18~19km/L putting around auckland. Why does a car get better mileage than a bike? Even when the bike is like 1/4 the weight...?
Ah, the downside of a performance 250 revealed. I get about double better mileage out of my ZRX1200R than I used to out of my Zeal.

Devil

14th October 2004, 08:19

Ah, the downside of a performance 250 revealed. I get about double better mileage out of my ZRX1200R than I used to out of my Zeal.
Heh as you can see with my bike.
ZXR250 engine, no fairings/aerodynamics/screen of any kind, 90kg rider, riding anywhere between 7000 and 19,000rpm most of the time.

I want a bigger bike.

bungbung

14th October 2004, 08:20

145km to low fuel light in the city, best ever was 180km just dawdling along.

Putting about 12l in at a time

160km average makes 7.5l to 100km or 13.3km per litre if you'd prefer.

Blakamin

14th October 2004, 11:12

Ah, the downside of a performance 250 revealed. I get about double better mileage out of my ZRX1200R than I used to out of my Zeal.
My cbr gets better milage than my Zeal did too.... thirsty bloody 250s

Coldkiwi

14th October 2004, 11:52

me gixxer is a bit thirsty then! In town I only get to 160km before the light goes on (about 15 litres taken on board). But as has been mentioned, I am one of those who enjoys getting too (ok and a bit over) the speed limits as fast as possible on my commute. Also, when lane splitting you need to keep the revs up in case of emergency avoidance action so that sucks gas too.

ALternatively, I've done 185km's on the open road cruising at decent speeds before the light comes on so its really about how I ride it

Kendog

14th October 2004, 12:40

200 k on about 12/13 liters

jrandom

14th October 2004, 12:43

Around town, I get 300km from 12 litres. 25km/litre.

Madmax

14th October 2004, 12:46

150kms on 15 liters be for the fuel light comes on

Pwalo

14th October 2004, 13:15

Litres, kilometres - what are they? My GS is US market model and has good old fashioned miles on the dials. :laugh:

After rejetting I get between 65 to 69 mpg(23 or so kilometers p litre) commuting, which is pretty damn good for a 500 twin. Should be slightly better on a trip!!

Devil

14th October 2004, 13:16

150kms on 15 liters be for the fuel light comes on
Heh, I can *just* get that in my cage on the open road if I'm gentle.

Motu

14th October 2004, 13:37

I've always been puzzled how the new bikes are so much more uneconomical than the bikes of old,you'd expect it to be the other way around - the newer cars are much more economical than older ones,and have far more power as well.

The old British twins could easily manage 100mpg,even in a high state of tune.In the early 70s I was riding a Triton - the grandaddy of sports bikes,these days it would be called a cafe racer.A Featherbed Norton frame and forks with a Triumph 650 motor - the usual racer touch,long fiberglass tank with big cutaways for the clipons,solo hump seat with cutout for central oil tank,rear sets,swept back pipes,the engine had the usual hot up stuff...Bonnie cams,pistons and head,timing gears drilled and rockers ground for lightness - it was a fast bike in it's day.But it could achieve 100mpg easily,that 2.5 gallon tank would take it 250 MILES!! My Norton and my wife's T100 would each do 95mpg...the Norton would do Auckland to Opunake in Taranaki without going to reserve on it's 3.5 gallon tank,sitting on 130kph the whole way.

Ok you say,the modern motorcycle makes more power - no,not really,my 1971 XS1 gets nowhere the economy of my Norton,my XLV750 with only 60hp is not exactly a powerhouse,and certainly not economical.My XT is considered an economical motorcycle,and I think I lead the race here with 450km to a tank,but it can't compare to some ancient British crap.Multis are horendous for fuel economy,the faster you go,the more you suck.Rose tinted specs? - sorry,I don't wear any - I've done the miles on a few different bikes,and filled the tank too....

Midnight 82

14th October 2004, 14:14

:moon: Depends how hard you ride. Big bikes F--- all

Blackbird

14th October 2004, 16:34

merv

14th October 2004, 18:35

Madmax

15th October 2004, 08:57

H1 tripple 100KMS 16 liters have had to walk the tank a few times :sweatdrop

カワサキキド

15th October 2004, 23:40

Damn..I thought I had at least 1 advantage over bigger bikes- fuel economy - but sadly no. After I do my cbta course next wed just 12months and 20days 'till I can upgrade.

wari

16th October 2004, 02:11

My VFR easily does 350km before the fuel warning light comes on and then its good for about another 60kms. Most rides I go on with other bikers I'm not filling the tank as often. Tank is 21 litres. My trip to Napier last week the gauge was still showing quarter full when I got there. It rained from Dannevirke up so I just didn't bother stopping anywhere and likewise on the way home it was so wet just did it non-stop again as I don't need to stop for gas.

The WR is another story, being such a highly tuned 250 single and geared low it sucks the gas and does about 140km to reserve point and maybe 170km altogether (haven't let it get that low to try) on an 11 litre tank. i.e. it is heavier on the gas than my 750 is.

BOy oh boy a lincoln toy .. thats impresswive ... :not:

...

I Uually fillupatt about 250-270 ...

BUtt once I gotto 300 after forgettin to filleruppe ... found a station in the middle of nowherre ... phew ... :sweatdrop

THere wasa skimm of fumes in the bottom of the tank ...

I SPent asmuch as I could atthat station ... I wantem to stay in business... :yeah:

merv

16th October 2004, 08:41

A few years back I did a South Island tour riding with a guy on a Fireblade, think it was about a 94 - 96 model. We raced along a bit (can't tell Spud about this) and then every time we stopped for gas he kept saying "damn I'm spending just a wee bit more than you on gas". I look closely and no, to my surprise his bike was slightly more economical at the same speeds than the VFR in km/litre. The difference was I'm using cheaper 91 octane and he was putting 96 in his.

The moral of that story is that the Fireblade he had was bloody easy on fuel and mine is very similar with both being carburetted bikes. Blade has about 3 litres less in the tank than mine at 18 litres vs 21 litres.

Photo (sorry bit shadowy looking into the sun) is at Arthurs Pass as many will recognise.

Dig the Austin Allegro - only in the South Island would you still see one of those I guess.

scumdog

16th October 2004, 08:53

The worst I've heard of was an ex-neighbour's Kawasaki H2 750cc triple. He actually ran it dry from a full tank thrashing it from Tokoroa down SH1 to Taupo :eek: :eek: Taupo is about 80kms away and if you figure that the gas tank held 18 or so litres, that's 4.4 km/litre or ~12.5 mpg!

Now that's plain ridiculous!!

I remember a meat inspector at the works who use to haul to and from Ch-ch on a Kwaka 750 triple two-stroke, he thought it was a good trip if he got as much as 16mpg!!!(proly just under 5km/litre) shit, my old '49 V8 truck got that! (he did move along a LITTLE faster than me I have to admit!!) :blah:

Motu

16th October 2004, 10:34

One year my wife and I decided to go to Taranaki on New Years Day - this was the days of fuel rationing,the gas stations were closed on weekends and public holidays,by law! We would have no fuel available to us all day,so we loaded ourselves down with tins of gas,no plastic containers in those days.I was on my 1961 Norton 600 SS,she was on her 1971 Triumph Trident,we could happily cruise together at 70mph....but it soon became apparent the Trident was sucking fuel at an alarming rate,the faster she went the more it sucked,so we had to bring the speed down.Now it was becoming hard for me to ride my Norton...with the cams and gearing I had I couldn't run below 60mph (100kph) in top gear,trying to keep my motor happy,it was my fuel consumption that was now rising.We poured the last of our fuel into the Trident somewhere between Urititi and Urenui,so she went over to a farm and the farmer sold her some fuel from his supply (illeagal).We both went onto reserve about 20km from our destination,it was close.Damn multis,they suck the fuel man!

laRIKin

16th October 2004, 16:37

Well my Moto Guzzi MKIV will get about 350k's on the main tank.
I can get from Omarama to CH.CH two up with gear cruising at about 130-140km/h. :doh:
So I'm told

My Moto Guzzi MKIII will get abit less at the same speed, About 320k's.
They both have a 25 Litre tanks.

So I may get passed by a few whizzes, but I get them back when they stop
for gas and we just keep on trucking.

That is if I'm not riding with whizzes that have to keep stopping for gas. :o

adamww

12th November 2004, 05:50

On my GN 250 I fill it every 250 with about 8 litires less than $10.00 cost (Thats around 30 litires per Kilometer). This includes motor way traffic as well as commuting around Auckland. I am using the bike for over 40 km per day so it is proving a lot cheaper than my car.
I assume from the above discussions that this is very good.
I have been thinking of up grading to a SV 650S, does any one know what the fuel economy on this is like??

Dodgyiti

12th November 2004, 06:10

My CBR gives you about 250/260 a tank...

Same, and mines a 1000!
So thats 18 liters per 250km
The Guzzi is a lot better at 270 per 18 liters

dangerous

12th November 2004, 07:09

The Guzzi is a lot better at 270 per 18 liters
Ya bloody what! 270/18............ shit damn I want a RS Daytona, my Guzzi 1100i Sport runs out at 200-220 with a 19L tank............ mind you that is a very pesamestic Iti 19L's

Antallica

12th November 2004, 07:17

Can get 230km on a full tank with the Bandit by the looks. Bit different from the 300km on the FXR for sure.

Blakamin

12th November 2004, 07:19

I've got no idea what my tank holds, but I got 219.7ks on 12.01 litres of fuel.
That obviously doesnt include burnouts or wheelies.. :pinch:

Dr Bob

13th November 2004, 07:37

Just checked my fuel usage, and can get 160km around town until reserve. But then again it only has 9litres + 3litre reserve. I guess it probably does 200km all up.

Maybe I'll try again and not waste it so much, see if I can make a difference. I am sure half the fuel gets turned into noise.

Rback

13th November 2004, 07:49

At the moment I'm getting 190km but when I got the GSXR it was getting 130km to the reserve. Have had to do some major surgery to get it better. Carbs were worn out so in went the dynajets, getting it right though.

JohnBoy

13th November 2004, 08:14

just had look on the net, i dont know how big my tank is. i think its about 12l w? 3L reserve. i normally get about 180k to 12L beefore i hit the servo. however with the 39mm flatsides i have gone through a tank of gas at manfield in 65km.

the net says 37mpg, but thats from the kawasaki site.
i have tried to find it on the net but cant, my model is the M1 with the ali tank (should be slightly smaller than the steel one) so if anyone knows it wiould be nice, not really keen to just run it dry.

Ramius

13th November 2004, 08:56

The KR250 got 230km on a tank of gas before reaching reserve.

The GSX250 did 220km on 8L of gas. It has a 20L tank.

I am hoping that the reviews I have read about the GSX is that when it is run in I should be getting something like 400km to a tank?!? :doh:

scroter

13th November 2004, 09:05