Bike security

[don rocard]

Can anyone give me ideas:angry2::angry2::angry2: of how to secure a bike at home(garaged) or in a carpark (city).It isnt always feasible to chain it to some static object and a lock on the wheel means they can pick it up anyway.Are alarms a good idea or a kill switch.How do these people who steal bikes register them or are they chopped for parts?

[unrealone]

I guess they're chopped for parts. A nice loud alarm would be a good idea. Atleast it can alert you or someone around you. I have one on my bike and it seems to working well for me.

[Maha]

Heres hows its done in Wellsford........:shifty:

[Conquiztador]

When there used to be a NZ bikers mag called Twin Eagle I wrote an article re bike security, alarms etc. I did some research (as you would expect) and tried to make it as complete as possible. I have not looked in to this much since then but here some bullet points in short from what I did learn then and some new stuff that I know have come on the market:

ON THE ROAD

- Loop alarm A freestading box with a battery inside has a loop that is threaded through your bike and both ends are connected to the box. When the loop is cut an alarm sounds.

- Bike alarm Electronic device that has a range of sensors fitted on your bike so that the alarm will sound when the bike is tampered with.

- Silent bike alarm Same device as the one mentioned before but you carry a beeper that will alert you when someone is tampering with the bike.

- Mobile phone alarm You fit an alarm on your bike that triggers when the bike is tampered with and that rings your mobile phone.

- Disc lock A small device that is locked on to your brake disc so that the bike becomes hard to roll away with

- Ignition Kill Will make the ignition die/not work if someone tries to ride away with her.

- Chain and lock Lock your bike to something solid like a lamp post.

- Prospect The lowest ranking member in that club who is left behind to keep an eye on the bikes.

-Club/Gang patch on bike Clearly painted patch of the club/gang on the bike to make thieves reconsider their decision

When home basic stuff like:
- Never park bike on the road but out of sight
- Park bike in secure locked storage/garage
- Always turn all the bikes alarms on. That includes the alarm you have in the storage place.
- Make it time consuming to steal the bike. Use chains, custom made device where bike is parked etc.

A friend of mine has a pit in his garage where the bike goes. On top of the pit a steel plate is placed that can not be removed by hand but with a winch he has there. The winch is then removed and hidden. Add to that an alarm that triggers when the steel plate is removed...

In that long forgotten article I mentioned that a pitbull and a shotgun was probably then the best security. Might still be...

NOTE 1: There might be some new inventions on the market that I have not included here. Please feel free to add them!!!

NOTE 2: I have on purpose not mentioned the shortcoming of each one. No need to make it easier for scum.

[Conquiztador]

A device that use satellite communication to show where the bike is. This thingy is apperently good for when the bike is stolen and you want to find it (or the scum that stole it...) Apperently not cheap. But might be worth the investment if you have an expensive girl.

[0arbreaka]

Heres (http://www.snitch.co.nz/index.html) the website for the gps tracking system, its something im considering for my new toy.

[Conquiztador]

Heres (http://www.snitch.co.nz/index.html) the website for the gps tracking system, its something im considering for my new toy.

Cheers. Site worth a visit.

[simonnn]

I use a Xena alarm disc lock.
I have also fitted a Xena PIR in my garage
I also have a Xena chain which locks with the disc lock.
Check out the Cycletreads site for info.They have a complete range.

[tri boy]

Loop a security cable through the front and rear wheels. Hard to carry any Guzzi. :thud:
Dragging it will be a pain with the cable.

[Kwaka14]

Jeremy from Snitch is a good guy, met him a couple of times around the traps and they seemlike pretty good units all told and not that expensive...

[Disco Dan]

Very thick steel plate with 4-8 10mm holes punched in it then a loop of solid steel 10mm bar welded to it to form a loop. Then Dynabolt it into your garage floor.

Attach a heavy duty chain with kevlar sheath around it, top it off with a heavy duty padlock.



...im paranoid. I even have video cameras watching every part of my property.

You can only do so much before it becomes counterproductive - as it takes you longer to disable all your security measures just to move the bike... you ever been late for work?

Nothings fool proof. But Video cameras that record onto a vcr do the trick very nicely.

[Conquiztador]

Very thick steel plate with 4-8 10mm holes punched in it then a loop of solid steel 10mm bar welded to it to form a loop. Then Dynabolt it into your garage floor.

Attach a heavy duty chain with kevlar sheath around it, top it off with a heavy duty padlock.



...im paranoid. I even have video cameras watching every part of my property.

You can only do so much before it becomes counterproductive - as it takes you longer to disable all your security measures just to move the bike... you ever been late for work?

Nothings fool proof. But Video cameras that record onto a vcr do the trick very nicely.

Dan: You only regret it if you did not do it.

[Bruiser]

Heres (http://www.snitch.co.nz/index.html) the website for the gps tracking system, its something im considering for my new toy.

I installed one of these on my harley, here is my report (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=45898&highlight=snitch+bruiser).

There are several different brands on the market but this one topped my list at the time.

[The Stranger]

Can anyone give me ideas:angry2::angry2::angry2: of how to secure a bike at home(garaged) or in a carpark (city).It isnt always feasible to chain it to some static object and a lock on the wheel means they can pick it up anyway.Are alarms a good idea or a kill switch.How do these people who steal bikes register them or are they chopped for parts?

An alarm disk lock. Ok the bike can be picked up or a skateboard slipped under the front wheel, but it's still going to scream "hey everyone, look at me".

[The Stranger]

Very thick steel plate with 4-8 10mm holes punched in it then a loop of solid steel 10mm bar welded to it to form a loop. Then Dynabolt it into your garage floor.

Attach a heavy duty chain with kevlar sheath around it, top it off with a heavy duty padlock.



...im paranoid. I even have video cameras watching every part of my property.

You can only do so much before it becomes counterproductive - as it takes you longer to disable all your security measures just to move the bike... you ever been late for work?

Nothings fool proof. But Video cameras that record onto a vcr do the trick very nicely.

So about 3 minutes with a 4" battery powered angle grinder then to cut the padlock?

[Disco Dan]

So about 3 minutes with a 4" battery powered angle grinder then to cut the padlock?

funny ha ha... :blink:


...more like 30 seconds before I can release the barking dogs.. see the video camera footage.. leg it to the garage with a rather large branding iron..... :cool: and kick some scummy arse... :2thumbsup

[Conquiztador]

funny ha ha... :blink:


...more like 30 seconds before I can release the barking dogs.. see the video camera footage.. leg it to the garage with a rather large branding iron..... :cool: and kick some scummy arse... :2thumbsup

I see you are not mentioning the alarm triggered teargas or tazer. But I suppose they find out about them anyhow.

[klingon]

My solution: Always park the Volty next to a much more desirable bike (they're surprisingly easy to find!) The thieves only have time to steal one bike before someone notices. Which one are they going to take? :whistle:

[johnnyflash]

always the one thats EASIEST, they are basically lazy buggers..

[Kwaka14]

So about 3 minutes with a 4" battery powered angle grinder then to cut the padlock?

or 1 second with a good pair of bolt cutters

[trump-lady]

I painted my bike pink. I got robbed,,,,,,,,,,,,,they took everything but my bike. Im quite offended! So paint your bike pink :)

[Conquiztador]

I painted my bike pink. I got robbed,,,,,,,,,,,,,they took everything but my bike. Im quite offended! So paint your bike pink :)

I assume everything you own is now pink?? ;-)

[trump-lady]

I assume everything you own is now pink?? ;-)


yup and im dying myself pink with little success, but dont think theyll steal me :(

Im offended over that too.

[Conquiztador]

yup and im dying myself pink with little success, but dont think theyll steal me :(

Im offended over that too.

Ahh...soo close. But nah, as a gentleman I will not go there. lol

[trump-lady]

Ahh...soo close. But nah, as a gentleman I will not go there. lol

Well I am OFFENDED lol
Not to worry I am female so what ever you say would offend me. If I was stolen, Id be offended. If not id be offended. If you answered youd prob offend me....but you did offend me. Must sux being a man......but atleast you know where ya stand with ya bike aye. Thats why she must be protected. After all shes never offended.

:) and night night.
hope your bike sleeps alright

[Conquiztador]

Being a man does not suxs. It is quite cool actually. You should try it sometime. ;-)

And I have long ago gotten over the offending others part. Whatever goes on inside other ppls heads has nothing to do with me. But I have noticed that some flowers, chocolate, a bottle of wine and a smile can make my offending to be forgotten temporarily. But being the type I am it tends to become expensive.

A pink bike..hmmm. Brave!

[trump-lady]

Being a man does not suxs. It is quite cool actually. You should try it sometime. ;-)

And I have long ago gotten over the offending others part. Whatever goes on inside other ppls heads has nothing to do with me. But I have noticed that some flowers, chocolate, a bottle of wine and a smile can make my offending to be forgotten temporarily. But being the type I am it tends to become expensive.

A pink bike..hmmm. Brave!


Hmmm dont think i could be a man if i tried...dont got the stuff
As for your 2nd subject
wanna get married and have children and get a nanny so we can ride forever?

[Conquiztador]

Hmmm dont think i could be a man if i tried...dont got the stuff
As for your 2nd subject
wanna get married and have children and get a nanny so we can ride forever?

Answer: Yes, but we can skip the having kids part and spend all time riding. I have planned ahead and have already covered that part. :-)

But we better keep this thread on topic so it does not end up in PD. Would be a shame.

I have always considered customizing and doing a nice custom paint job a good way to keep the scum away. Home made bits and a bike that is very individual is tricky to sell. Engraved motor will be hard to flick off, or try to sell a set of 120 spoke s/s wheels on TM w/o getting found out!

[oldrider]

Hey, why don't you two get together and try things out, I have to go to bed now and I was getting involved with your interaction!

Good luck and stay in the pink, it seems to be working! :yes: Good night. Cheers John.

[trump-lady]

ok good glad thats settled. i dont need kids anyway...I enjoy sleeping.

As for the bike I like the gps idea that way you can find em, also the silent alarm that notifys you that way you can get a baseball bat. Im not violent however feel when it comes to certain things violence is due.I admit I would have great pleasure in finding someone who stole my bike. On that note Im going to court tomorrow to see who one of the people they caught that stole my stuff.
Annesa Naywood from Dargiville P Head and pro.
I just wanna see what she looks like :)

[oldrider]

ok good glad thats settled. i dont need kids anyway...I enjoy sleeping.

As for the bike I like the gps idea that way you can find em, also the silent alarm that notifys you that way you can get a baseball bat. Im not violent however feel when it comes to certain things violence is due.I admit I would have great pleasure in finding someone who stole my bike. On that note Im going to court tomorrow to see who one of the people they caught that stole my stuff.
Annesa Naywood from Dargiville P Head and pro.
I just wanna see what she looks like :)

Be sure to take a gun with you, thieving bastards! :2guns: John.

[denill]

I use a Xena alarm disc lock.
I have also fitted a Xena PIR in my garage
I also have a Xena chain which locks with the disc lock.
Check out the Cycletreads site for info.They have a complete range.

Yep Simonnn, it is VERY unlikely your bike will get stolen - if you use those systems as and when appropriate.

I use the Xena Disc Lock. Very effective. With the bike on it's sidestand the wind set it off in the middle of the night - outside a motel :wacko:

[bert_is_evil]

I'm currently using the "don't get too emotionally attached and have full insurance" method. I figure if someone really wants to steal it they probably will find a way, and if it does get pinched I will use the insurance money + save a bit up and buy something at least 30kgs lighter.

[Ocean1]

Modified baby electric fence power source, 5000 Volts tends to be a fairly good deterent.

Took some pain to isolate it from the bike's electronics as much as possible, was still worried when I tested it but it doesn't seem to worry it.

So far I've avoided getting bit.

... tic...tic...tic...

[johnnyflash]

I'm currently using the "don't get too emotionally attached and have full insurance" method. I figure if someone really wants to steal it they probably will find a way, and if it does get pinched I will use the insurance money + save a bit up and buy something at least 30kgs lighter.

I suspect thats not a bad approach, as you say if they want it they WILL take it... just depends how lazy they are.. I figure my alarmed Xena Stainless disclock might slow em down a little, the bike weighs in at 350kgs as it stands, that might slow em a little, the steering lock might slow em a little,
So HOPEFULLY they will find something to steal that is a LITTLE easier.. :(

[Pancakes]

Modified baby electric fence power source, 5000 Volts tends to be a fairly good deterent.

Took some pain to isolate it from the bike's electronics as much as possible, was still worried when I tested it but it doesn't seem to worry it.

So far I've avoided getting bit.

... tic...tic...tic...

I'm expecting a "how to" thread soon please and a PM once it's up so I can too. Good sh*t, that'd be worth seeing a theif get zapped by!!