I got taken out by a 4x4 [Archive]

dmouse

8th October 2007, 08:53

i had just set off from the lights on Tuam st across Columbo st here in Christchurch on friday 5/10/07 at about 3 or 3.30 and this idiot in a 4x4 did a u turn right in front of me and i had no where to go and i think my bike is totaled i will post some pics in my gallery, im well and truly pissed off just had a 6k paint job forks are bent and twisted tanks are shoved back im just so pissed off, i got bruising all down my rightside no red stuff leaked other than my pride and joy bleeding gear oil and engine oil, and gas all over the road im now bikeless waiting for the idiots insurance sorting there shit out, im hopeing it gets written off it was a real hard impact even splitt the metal on the 4x4 you could see inside the thing, i got plenty of witnesess even an off duty cop who said i was doing about 40k god im so pissed off GGGGRRRRRRR:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Timber020

8th October 2007, 08:56

To be completely typical and predictable

At least your okay, bikes and be fixed, replaced or even upgraded. Plenty of guys on this site havent been able to report on there own accidents afterwards.

sAsLEX

8th October 2007, 08:59

cynna

8th October 2007, 09:03

good to hear that u r ok - shame about the bike tho. hope u have no hassles with the insurance company

was that the bike is someones pics of the little river rally????

toycollector10

8th October 2007, 09:10

I'm glad that you aren't in hospital or worse. God I hate effing cagers who cant' drive for sh*t. I can't imagine the feeling of having to write my bike off.

Macktheknife

8th October 2007, 09:21

Start getting receipts etc for all the custom work.

Take photos and receipts etc to dealers who can appraise your bike of its true worth, as the scum sucking insurance companies will try to screw you on the value of your bike! But with a few quotes from dealers they take the average, so leave out the low ones ;)

What he said, bloody good advice there.
Also, I am glad you are not seriously hurt.
Keep smiling, it makes people wonder what you have been up to!

dmouse

8th October 2007, 09:28

Romeo

8th October 2007, 09:29

Oh gutting!
I was hoping it wasn't you, your paint job is fuckin' mean!
We met you outside Trevor Pierce on that nasty, cold Sunday morning when none of our respective motorcycle groups turned up, my old man was on the red CB750 and I was in that nasty yellow car.

Really dissapointed for you dude...

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Kflasher

8th October 2007, 09:30

Feel for ya dude, lets hope you get your ride back to the original condition.

Kflasher

8th October 2007, 09:31

dmouse

8th October 2007, 09:33

thanks mate that was a lonely day but i still rode most of them dudes dont like the cold or the wet, they have never lived and there bikes are in cotton wool on wet days, thanks for the post and as arnie said "ill b back" that is depending on insurance getting there fingers out thanks mate.

Oh gutting!
I was hoping it wasn't you, your paint job is fuckin' mean!
We met you outside Trevor Pierce on that nasty, cold Sunday morning when none of our respective motorcycle groups turned up, my old man was on the red CB750 and I was in that nasty yellow car.

Really dissapointed for you dude...

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SVboy

8th October 2007, 09:53

Mate-you must be gutted. What a nice bike. I sure hope you dont get pissed around in sorting out where you go to next..how do you put a value on all that work!

deanohit

8th October 2007, 09:55

Good luck with sorting it all out mate. Shame that paint job and bike were damaged, but at least your all good if a little sore.

avgas

8th October 2007, 12:01

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Colt, or Mitsubishi? What year dude? Its looking mint - dont really like the colour, but if its original must be worth a fortune.

avgas

8th October 2007, 12:03

dmouse who did ya paintjob? What value is the bike insured for? will they cover the custom bits?

Paul in NZ

8th October 2007, 13:08

Far out - that totally sucks. You are not having an easy time of it old son... Take care eh - not enough good buggers out there on two wheels as it is.

Don't take it personally - I doubt if it would have made any difference to the 4 x 4 if you were on a $50 bike.... I guess that given the value of the bike, this is going to be a hell on an insurance tussle though - good luck and start gathering the paperwork.

dmouse

8th October 2007, 13:47

Hi the paint was done by Imagination unlimited BY Dean 0274 373852 i had the bike insured for 50k but it really should of been 60k but my premiums were allmost double for the extra 10k it stinks but you have to have, the worse problem is trying to get an assesor to see it for what it was and not just a bike, last time i got hit they only valued the bike at 26k and the rest was wear and tear just dont figure, ive only had the bike back since july when dean finished off the paintwork, o well shit happens regards and best wishes

dmouse who did ya paintjob? What value is the bike insured for? will they cover the custom bits?

SDU

8th October 2007, 14:00

Buggar mildly puts it, but at least you are ok. I hope the insurance pays up fair & fast & you'll back on two wheels soon.

Romeo

8th October 2007, 14:17

Colt, or Mitsubishi? What year dude? Its looking mint - dont really like the colour, but if its original must be worth a fortune.

A bit off topic, but here's a vid of my Colt (1973 16L Mitsubishi Galant "Colt") up on the Summit Road, Christchurch. For those who are interested, it's not that great but someone might like it... I guess as far as cages go it kind of blends in with the bikers I hang out with - can't wait to get a bike though!

MnLQ92gM1Ss

Back on topic, best of luck with the insurance dMouse :wacko:

lemure

8th October 2007, 14:26

Hi the paint was done by Imagination unlimited BY Dean 0274 373852 i had the bike insured for 50k but it really should of been 60k but my premiums were allmost double for the extra 10k it stinks but you have to have, the worse problem is trying to get an assesor to see it for what it was and not just a bike, last time i got hit they only valued the bike at 26k and the rest was wear and tear just dont figure, ive only had the bike back since july when dean finished off the paintwork, o well shit happens regards and best wishes

Don't you just love insurance companys!! You may well get the 50k back with the "average" quote from several dealers, but I wouldn't hold my breath for the work done afterward. Bummer, feel for you - it's happened to me in the past, so can image your rage. Probably feel like this ...? :bash:

Tank

8th October 2007, 15:22

So sorry to hear about the crash, although glad to hear you are OK.

Its such a shame to see a work of art like your bike get trashed simply because of the inattention of another.

C

peasea

8th October 2007, 15:27

Start getting receipts etc for all the custom work.

Take photos and receipts etc to dealers who can appraise your bike of its true worth, as the scum sucking insurance companies will try to screw you on the value of your bike! But with a few quotes from dealers they take the average, so leave out the low ones ;)

Absolutely! Custom stuff is sometimes hard to put a value on and there's the individuality of it.....

Glad you're ok and man, that looked like one way-cool ride.

peasea

8th October 2007, 15:32

A bit off topic, but here's a vid of my Colt (1973 16L Mitsubishi Galant "Colt") up on the Summit Road, Christchurch. For those who are interested, it's not that great but someone might like it... I guess as far as cages go it kind of blends in with the bikers I hang out with - can't wait to get a bike though!

MnLQ92gM1Ss

Back on topic, best of luck with the insurance dMouse :wacko:

:Oi:

How many times did that car go over the centreline? Jeeezus! Glad I wasn't hammering down the hill in the opposite direction. Where's the :Police: when you need them eh? Come on you kb coppers, email the perp a ticket!

Romeo

8th October 2007, 18:57

How many times did that car go over the centreline? Jeeezus! Glad I wasn't hammering down the hill in the opposite direction. Where's the :Police: when you need them eh? Come on you kb coppers, email the perp a ticket!I only cut when I could see 100m ahead of me - that makes me a criminal? Least I wasn't speeding, it's not capable of it ;D. But no, you can actually see right the way down the road when your going around there.

surfchick

8th October 2007, 19:26

i know that a lot of good guys have not survived there encounters and i try not to take anything away from them but when you spend 50k plus on a bike im just a little bit pissed at cages.

I salute all the fallen bikers gone but never forgotten,

oh noo- your bike looks totally chromed out amazing and the worst thing of all is damage to any of the custom bits...paint job esp. soo hope you get hooked up for a proper reinstatement to it's full glory. the bike looks unreal from the pics... hadn't seen your bike pix till now...a bad way to see it...:rolleyes:

dmouse

8th October 2007, 19:49

thanks i think i would prefer a new bike thats two times that i have been taken out on this one so maybe i think i dont want a third shot ?. if i get a new bike it will still be the same paint theme as it go`s with my reg plate.

i think that 4X4 drivers are hunters that cannot get a gun licence and hunt out motorcycles instead as thats twice this year that i have been taken out by these 4x4 buggers <_<:oi-grr:

deanohit

8th October 2007, 19:55

Sorry mate, but I'm a hunter with a gun licence and a 4x4, but I have ridden a bike and am extra careful as I know there is poor vision out the rear and compensate for it. The bad thing is that there are too many out there who are incompetant idiots.

Shadows

8th October 2007, 22:51

Fark. That's a damn shame, fellah.
Some fuckwits should be lined up and used for target practice.

dmouse

9th October 2007, 10:03

maybe the law should be changed on 4x4`s and as they are made for off road use they should not be allowed on the road, most accidents with a 4x4 and a normal car are nealy allways fatal as there height makes cars go underneath and get crushed, also the 4x4 driver get a feeling off im ok i am bigger than them they can and will get out of my way, and to top it all off vision isnt very good for all round view by the driver so they are definalty not safe for raod use, i spoke to the cop that was at my crash and he stated that most cops dont like them as they stuff up the roads and the weight to power ratio of them is far too great, they dont have high speeds (most) but the tourqe that they put out chews up and damages the road surface.

jim.cox

9th October 2007, 10:28

but the tourqe that they put out chews up and damages the road surface.

The amount of road damage done by a 4x4 - even a 2.5t monster - is absolutely insignificant compared to what is done by a 40+t truck and trailer combo...

avgas

9th October 2007, 11:13

i think that 4X4 drivers are hunters that cannot get a gun licence and hunt out motorcycles instead as thats twice this year that i have been taken out by these 4x4 buggers
I know the feeling, even after my last nasty crash i thought i would get a bright bike so that the bastards couldn't use the excuse "I didnt see you".
I still had a few scares on that bike so now i ride a big black rat. Its amazing how stealth matt black seems to get more attention than bright blue did.
People actually move aside even.

avgas

9th October 2007, 11:15

maybe the law should be changed on 4x4`s
What pisses me off is i have to angle my car head lights down for a wof......but they can have theirs 1.5m off the ground shining every poor bastard in the eyes for k's.

deanohit

9th October 2007, 11:24

they stuff up the roads and the weight to power ratio of them is far too great, they dont have high speeds (most) but the tourqe that they put out chews up and damages the road surface.

Try 1300kg, 77hp and 125nm for my 1.6L Vitara, that will be doing less damage than a bloody Toyota corolla let alone a Falcon XR6 or XR8.

avgas

9th October 2007, 12:03

to be honest i like fucked roads.
everytime they seem to fix them here, they drop the speed limit.
Case and point Waihi-Katikati-Tauranga (my old stomping ground), made it motorway spec (took out all my lovely messys corners that made men, men) and in alot of places brought down the speed to 80kph (used to ride most of it 120+).
Fuck you transit and your 4wd friendly corners

Mikkel

9th October 2007, 20:12

Gutted mate - lots of shity drivers around Chch. Seems to me that too many drivers are either asleep, too busy picking their nose, reading their newspapers or otherwise unfocused on their driving. This is bad enough when people are driving a light compact car - doubly so if they're in a "4x4" which will wobble if they try to maneuver too quickly. Then of course we have the wankers who use their vehicles as if it was a weapon and tries to bully everyone else off the roads. Some of these also drives big ass 4x4s btw :(

I drive a four wheel drive as well though - however this one corners quite well and doesn't have a very high ride height... Legacy GT-B - 280 hps, 1480 kgs - creases the tarmac nicely ;)

But dmouse - to quote Monty Python - "Always look on the bright side of life" ... you should be able to comfortably go out and buy yourself a nice GSXR1000 for the insurance money. :p (Nah seriously, it's a bloody shame to see an outstanding piece of work like that getting trashed - good thing you're ok though.)

sAsLEX

10th October 2007, 04:55

Try 1300kg, 77hp and 125nm for my 1.6L Vitara, that will be doing less damage than a bloody Toyota corolla let alone a Falcon XR6 or XR8.

How excessive!

mine weighs 933.94669 kilograms

dmouse

7th November 2007, 14:33

just found out insurance is paying for the bike to be rebuilt first estimate is 14k plus i was hoping it would be written off and start from scratch but no, the bike im told will be ready about mid december so i might get a good xmas pressie, god i hate walkin insurance should suppy a replacment bike like they do with cars god we pay enough for full cover mine costs me $1202.80 for 50k cover o well moanin over get back to memories and dreams

steveb64

8th November 2007, 10:31

...is often caused by the daft 'flat glass' mirrors that are fitted to (all?) NZ new 4x4's. We had a Nissan Ventura (up-spec'd Navara) for a couple of years - it was a real bitch for having blind spots. Not too bad when we were up north around Kaikohe, but after we moved down to Wellington, there were a few times when I nearly took out other cars during lane changes on the motorway - solely because of the piss-poor field of view in the wing mirrors - and that was despite doing the 'turkey dance' moving my head around trying to see what was in the other lane through the stupid mirrors.
I saw the light, and traded the useless thing in on a swb Mitsi Pajero import, with proper convex mirrors, and had no more problems on the motorway (or with blind spots) after that.
And YES, it gets used in 4WD from time to time (on the dirt, and for skiing), as well as being used as a trailer tow vehicle...

Closest run-in I've had with a 4x4 when I've been on the bike, was near the Matauri Bay turnoff, heading south (towards Kerikeri). Me and another mate had caught up to this thing doing about 80k's - waited for the straight I knew was coming (after medium RH corner) - and indicated, then popped out to pass, planning to cut through the inside of the corner and be past as the straight started, giving my mate plenty of room to pass. Fcuker suddenly veered half into the RH lane, as I was just short (< a car length) of the back of it. :mad: I paused a sec, decided I still had plenty of room on the road (including far RH shoulder if needed):angry2:, so gassed the Duc HARD (was already down a couple of gears), popped out past anyway, and reached over with my left hand and SLAPPED his wing mirror as HARD as I could! :bash::shit::D
Prick must have absolutely crapped him(her?)self!:shit: Looked in mirrors, and said 4x4 was half OFF the road, on LH grass shoulder...:yes: Mate behind me was just about pissing himself laughing! Dunno if the mirror survived - but if you don't use it, you lose it. Score 1 to the bikes!:first:

SPman

8th November 2007, 11:50

You go skiing in your 4x4! :eek:

scumdog

8th November 2007, 12:00

I only cut when I could see 100m ahead of me - that makes me a criminal? Least I wasn't speeding, it's not capable of it ;D. But no, you can actually see right the way down the road when your going around there.

Don't cut corners, never cut corners, don't even think about cutting corners.

If I saw you I'd ticket the arse off you for doing that shit. (and you get 35 demerits for each ticket)

Cutting corners is for losers and brain dead incompetent riders and drivers.

Never, ever cut corners - one day it'll bite you on the bum when a car suddenly appears coming towards you on a corner where you could 'clearly see nothing is coming' - that's if you at least try that 'rule' and aren't one of those drongos that 'cut corners and hope'

Hope my hints are not too obscure about what I think of cutting corners.

scumdog

8th November 2007, 12:06

dmouse

8th November 2007, 14:20

Anyhoo... back on topic.

Sorry to see what happened to you and your scoot - especially a nice looking custom job like that, would break my heart if it happened to me..

How did the drongo driver explain away his incompetence???

sorry mate i didnt see you !!! BUT i saw the car behind you !!!! i had my lights on and theres more chrome on the front of my bike than gold in fort knox well nearly, and the sun was in my face so the chrome would of been shining like a lighthouse !!! want event number so you can look it up ?.
this is my second run in with 4x4`s this year first was in jan i was turning right with the lights and a joker came through on RED and hit me in the back at 60k plenty of witness and my bike was off of the road then for 7 months rebuild repaired resprayed so out of a year ive been on the road two and a half months that is if i can get to the new year without further incident, maybe just keep it in the garage and look at it !!!!

deanohit

8th November 2007, 14:29

dmouse

8th November 2007, 14:29

good to hear that u r ok - shame about the bike tho. hope u have no hassles with the insurance company

was that the bike is someones pics of the little river rally????

Hi and yes i won best custom with it looks slightly differnt now though

dmouse

8th November 2007, 14:34

Jeez mate thats a shocker, SMIDSY has got to be the most used and most useless excuse any one can use.
Talking about blindspots on 4x4, the worst on my Vitara is right behind me, get a good veiw out the side mirrors, but out the back is absolutely shocking.
The worst vehicle for blindspots I have driven is a late 90s Ford Falcon station wagon. I HATE the bloody thing. The blindspots arn't only behind you, the front pillers each side are horribly big and have caught me out pulling out of intersections and not seeing a damn TRUCK, the things are that bad.

but the guy didnt need his mirrors he did a uturn right in front of me, and he would not of completed the turn due to parked cars so it would of ended up as a three point turn, he tried to do it before the car behind me got to him, as the prick didnt see me !!!

im wonderin about stickin some of those pushbike flashing leds on the front and back of my bike or kacket i might look a prick but they should see me i think ???

dmouse

8th November 2007, 14:36

Anyhoo... back on topic.

Sorry to see what happened to you and your scoot - especially a nice looking custom job like that, would break my heart if it happened to me..

How did the drongo driver explain away his incompetence???

would i be legal if i stuck those flashing leds lights on the front and rear of my bike or jacket, the ones they use on pushbikes ?? i might look like and idiot but makes me more visable wouldnt it ?? i aint going to wear a orange vest though

steveb64

8th November 2007, 15:37

You go skiing in your 4x4! :eek:

:o Yep. If the snow on the road's deep enough... :laugh: Usually just use it to get to the skifield though... :oi-grr: :bleh:

steveb64

8th November 2007, 15:50

would i be legal if i stuck those flashing leds lights on the front and rear of my bike or jacket, the ones they use on pushbikes ?? i might look like and idiot but makes me more visable wouldnt it ?? i aint going to wear a orange vest though

Should be OK as long as you don't use red ones... What about one of those 'headlight modulators', that pulse the headlight beam? Might help - but then again, if the fcukers are gonna get you - they're gonna get you...

I almost got taken out by a twat in a van once - had headlight on, bright yellow rain suit on, big red pack on pack rack (on a GSX11), and he saw me (well, he didn't see ME) as a gap in the cars, and turned across in front of me. Fcukin nearly got me. Wife was one car back, on her bike, and reckoned she lost sight of me as I laid the GSX on it's side... managed to miss van, ride around the back of it, missing oncoming traffic, and get back on my side... :angry2:

Hope the insurance do a good job on the fix! Looked like your bike was a primo unit...

8th November 2007, 19:51

That took me back. Sorry about your pride and joy but good to hear that you are Ok.

November 1978, Tuam St. I was taken out by a car that pulled over ahead of me to a park on our left side...then as I pass him (my bad, at a bit of speed) he does a u-turn, no indication and by his own admission he never checked his mirrors. Unlike you I didn't walk away. I jumped over his roof only to break my leg on hitting the road. Spent the entire hot Chch summer with my leg in a full cast from tippy toes to testicles. My CB750 totalled his car though.

Lesson for today - avoid Tuam Street

Boob Johnson

8th November 2007, 21:24

the scum sucking insurance companies will try to screw you on the value of your bike!

Not all are like that. I got taken out in a similar way 5 months ago. The insurance company paid me $300 more than I paid for the bike 5 months & 6,000km's later & to top it off they didn't bat an eyelid @ replacing all my gear that was ruined at top value & if that wasn't enough when they asked how my riding jacket was to which I replied it's fine, un marked, they asked if I was sure!! What more could they have done? Nothing. How much easier could they have been to deal with? Zip, they were 100% perfect.

State for life :hug:

Macktheknife

14th November 2007, 23:10

That sure is a beautiful paint job mate, kind of glad they will repair it really. Nothing to stop you selling it once it is done though. If you think the 'hoodoo' is on this prticular bike then fix and flick is a good strategy.
All the best with it anyway.

fredie

14th November 2007, 23:34

http://www.break.com/index/car-blows-red-light-and-hits-biker.html look at this cage difckheasd video :mad::crybaby:

MaxCannon

16th November 2007, 08:25

Mate - that is a nice looking bike.
You must be gutted !
Glad you are still in one piece.

The Lone Rider

17th November 2007, 07:40

Ah dave, didn't know you posted up about your run in!

Did you end up going for surgery on your shoulder?

On the bright side of things you said your bike should be fixed by mid december. Thats not too far away!

Will be good to have you back out riding with CK.

McDuck

17th November 2007, 08:05

http://www.break.com/index/car-blows-red-light-and-hits-biker.html look at this cage difckheasd video :mad::crybaby:

that is a scooter.

Dosnt count.

dmouse

18th November 2007, 10:23

sorry for the late reply bike was painted by
dean from Imagination unlimited 0274373852 , bike is insured for 50k i have been offerd 60k for her by a bike shop, im told that she will be ready by mid december but im not holding my breath, no wheels really sucks i have a van but suffer from claustaphobia so my bike was my feedom, ive been bascily housebound since it happend my right elbow and shoulder now might need surgery.

i was so looking forward to going to the magpie run shit happens

regards ride safe ride free ride for me

dave