Black 4x4 -- Lloyd's Electrical -- WTF?

[xwhatsit]

Yes, yes, I know, another whinging thread about mad cagers, but I found this one quite puzzling.

On my way to work going up Manukau Rd (I think Pah Rd, actually, not quite sure where one starts and the other ends), and I pull up to the lights. Rush hour, so there's already about 5 cars deep in each lane. I zip up to the head of the lights like normal.

I get a bit of a fright (jump in the seat) when once I get to the front, a bloke in a black 4x4 (Toyota Kruger, or Toyota something perhaps?) starts tooting the horn like crazy. He's a couple of cars back. Check the lights -- yep, they're green, what's going on? I just ignore him.

Lights go green, I take off. I'm probably doing just under 60kph (yes, I know, naughty, it's a 50kph zone, but all the traffic does that so I don't feel too evil), when screaming up behind me comes Mr 4x4. How'd he get there? Remember he was at least two cars back at the lights. I'm sitting near the middle of the lane in order to avoid some creases and tar snakes, and Mr 4x4 sees fit to sit maybe a metre behind me, flashing his lights, tooting his horn again. I indicate left and let him past -- nup, not having a ball of that, he sits level with me, pushing me more and more left until I'm centimetres away from the gutter. He keeps doing this until after very nearly colliding with a vehicle about to turn right on the opposite side of the road, he pins it and zooms past. Would've been doing 80kph, I would say. As he goes past I can hear him swearing and he pops the finger out the window.

Didn't catch the number plate (would've enjoyed phoning the police, it took a while for my heart to start again after nearly being pushed off the road), but on the back of the 4x4 was written `Lloyd's Electrical', or similar. So probably a company car, I suppose.

Now I'm no stranger to mental cagers, especially ones in company cars, but this was peculiar. Often, cager madness is a case of criminal neglect, rather than maliciousness. When it is malicious, it's because you've done something to piss them off -- drag the boy racer off from the lights, making him look shit in front of his girlfriend, for example; or perhaps failing to notice the traffic light has been green for some time. This doesn't seem to fall into either category.

Rush hour insanity? The man who ran away with his wife owned a CB250RS too?

Your theories please.

[Mole_C]

Your theories please.

Small cock syndrome?

Phone the company and them bout it! :2guns:

[Karma]

Any chance you nicked his car or anything?

Or you could call and ask them;

Lloyd Electrical Ltd - John & David Lloyd
Ph: 09-4157075, Fax: 09-4155541, Mobile: 021-921-641
P O Box 302 049; North Harbour Mail Centre; AUCKLAND

http://yellow.co.nz/companies/Electricians/Lloyd-Electrical-Ltd/100572564_701.html

[Renegade]

follow him home, then pay a street bum a bottle of jim beam to let all his tyres down or shit under his door handle :clap:

[deanohit]

Yea ring the electrical company and make a complaint, they should have a rough idea of who was driving where at that time. Try not to let the bastard get away with it, that sort of driving is just not on.

[MSTRS]

0800 dobaplonker

[xwhatsit]

Any chance you nicked his car or anything?

Or you could call and ask them;

Lloyd Electrical Ltd - John & David Lloyd
Ph: 09-4157075, Fax: 09-4155541, Mobile: 021-921-641
P O Box 302 049; North Harbour Mail Centre; AUCKLAND

http://yellow.co.nz/companies/Electricians/Lloyd-Electrical-Ltd/100572564_701.html

Nah, I was miles off. Plus when I went past I was still moving with some momentum, if I'd hit him I probably would've been in trouble myself.

[craigs288]

Could simply be jealousy. He was unhappy that you were able to enjoy the benefits of motorcycling, one of which is lane filtering up to traffic lights.

A bit like bus lanes. A few times when I have been stuck in a cage in shit traffic heading home and at exactly 6pm I start using the bus lanes, as allowed by law. And as you drive past heaps of cagers quite happily (or ignorantly) sitting in the lane next to you, some prick further up the road sees you coming and decides to straddle both lanes.

Whether it is out of ignorance - they don't realise that anyone can use these lanes outside of the designated bus hours, or out of ignorance they don't realise that it is 6pm and they can use the lane, or they just don't want to use it and don't want you to either.

Sour grapes? Ignorance? Being a f%^khead for the sake of being a f$%khead? Who can tell on any given day.

[gijoe1313]

Well, just glad nothing bad happened to you apart from a fright! :sweatdrop Sometimes its just better to just ride away from the situation rather than pursuing it as you did and then wonder about it later! Never know, he may be a pretty reasonable person most days and something just made him snap his wick (and then again, he may just be a prick!)

Well you got some details, a friendly phone call to remind them that it doesn't do their rep any good by acting in such a crazy way in a company vehicle? :scratch:

Never mind, enjoy the fact thats why you are a biker in the first place - to filter when appropriate! :msn-wink: and enjoying the twisties ... and posting up stuff in KB ... and ... and ... I wish I was riding my bike now :weep: :scooter:

[Griff]

follow him home, then pay a street bum a bottle of jim beam to let all his tyres down or shit under his door handle :clap:

Do NOT shit under his door handle!
1. Have you ever tried this? It is f**king difficult to balance off the side of a car roof, so that the shit lands in the required spot. (Took me at least 3 "Myth-Busting" attempts). Its just not practical.

2. Better still, rub shit into his air vents, just under the windscreen.
Do this well, so that nothing is visible from the outside.

[Ewan Oozarmy]

Do NOT shit under his door handle!
1. Have you ever tried this? It is f**king difficult to balance off the side of a car roof, so that the shit lands in the required spot. (Took me at least 3 "Myth-Busting" attempts). Its just not practical.

2. Better still, rub shit into his air vents, just under the windscreen.
Do this well, so that nothing is visible from the outside.

Trouble is with this is you'll just be f*cking up his company vehicle and he probably won't give a sh*t (no pun intended :) ).

We're talking about someone deliberately trying to harm someone else here. I'd have followed this guy and had a word once he'd stopped and got out of his car. Someone tries to hurt me I wanna know why.

[Street Gerbil]

Do NOT shit under his door handle!
Better still, rub shit into his air vents, just under the windscreen.

Or better yet, pour a small carton of milk in there. Nothing smells like rotten milk. Not even rotten shit.

[pritch]

Rush hour insanity?

I had one yesterday. (And we don't really have a rush hour - more like a rush minute.) It was raining and I wanted to join the taffic from a side street. A gap presented itself, not too small as the road was wet, and accelerating hard while leaned over can be problematical.

The guy in the next car took umbrage though, he chased me several hundred yards up the road before he got close enough to flash his lights and throw a temper tantrum with his horn.

Where I work we have contact with people who have diagnosable personality or mental disorders. There are a lot of others that we don't see. There really are a lot of them out there (one in five?) and in all probability one of them will be sitting next to you at the lights one day soon...

[daaatomic]

Follow 4X4 to next set of lights, And depending what type of person you are:
a) smash off wing mirror as you filter past again
b) wave and smile politley as you filter past again
(it is also probably a good idea to make sure he is not about to open his door on you)

A EO said, i don't like people trying to deliberately hurt me.

[Reckless]

Its quite a flash 4x4 so your probably dealing with the boss. I can't imagine one the the boys having a vehicle like this they'de have vans. So complaining to the company won't do any good.

Either
Call to cops so they can investigate/hassle him (your probably not wanting that type of grief though)
or
Send an email to everyone in his company (including him) pointing them to this thread. (create a hotmail address if necessary)
Firstly it will prove we all know what a dickhead he is and not to call Lloyd's when we have a job for an electrician.
Secondly it will display how much damage he has done to his public company image.
Thirdly all his work mates will know what a dickhead he is and what a great example he is setting his staff. They will all snigger behind his back and agree with us.

Just an idea!

[toycollector10]

Before that he's a metre off your arse...Road Rage pure and simple.

Any mofar trying to kill me and driving like that, and yes, I would make a complaint to the police.

It's bad enough people driving like morons let alone deliberately trying to harm you. F*ck that!

[steveb64]

Any chance you nicked his car or anything?

Or you could call and ask them;

Lloyd Electrical Ltd - John & David Lloyd
Ph: 09-4157075, Fax: 09-4155541, Mobile: 021-921-641
P O Box 302 049; North Harbour Mail Centre; AUCKLAND

http://yellow.co.nz/companies/Electricians/Lloyd-Electrical-Ltd/100572564_701.html

Ring them up, ask them to quote on a LARGE job, (new house, or industrial rewire, or summat) - then ring back a day later, saying you just spoke with a friend who nearly got wasted by some A-hole who works for them with a 4x4 - and if they employ pricks like that, you'd rather take your business somewhere else...

[fredie]

RING POLICE . RING EVERYONE TOO COMPLAIN . I WOULD no worries . sick vunts like that should be shot:angry:

[JMemonic]

Rectal cranium inversion sounds like this blokes issue, I have always found that ringing outfits like this even if it is the boss works wonders, especially if you say you saw this happening as a bystander and thought you would give them a chance to rectify their driver rather than complain to the police who you are sure would disapprove of this behaviour.

[Headbanger]

I'd go past the depot, see if you can identify him.

Then lay a complaint with the police, and with the company if he isn't the boss.

I would have followed him after the initial incident.

[deanohit]

Ring them up, ask them to quote on a LARGE job, (new house, or industrial rewire, or summat) - then ring back a day later, saying you just spoke with a friend who nearly got wasted by some A-hole who works for them with a 4x4 - and if they employ pricks like that, you'd rather take your business somewhere else...

Hahaha, I love it!! First though I would go past and see if you can recognise who was driving as I see the company is run by 2 brothers. If it was one of them or a worker, ring the other brother, then pull the above plan so he gets all pissed of and hopefully gives the offender a good rev up about his behaviour costing the business. :girlfight::argue: If you rung the offender, he would likely just keep it quiet and cover it up. Do all this besides reporting the incident to the cops.

[Donor]

Ring them up, ask them to quote on a LARGE job, (new house, or industrial rewire, or summat) - then ring back a day later, saying you just spoke with a friend who nearly got wasted by some A-hole who works for them with a 4x4 - and if they employ pricks like that, you'd rather take your business somewhere else...

This smacks of class... bling well earned! :niceone:

[geoffm]

Ring them up, ask them to quote on a LARGE job, (new house, or industrial rewire, or summat) - then ring back a day later, saying you just spoke with a friend who nearly got wasted by some A-hole who works for them with a 4x4 - and if they employ pricks like that, you'd rather take your business somewhere else...

A Coll Electrical van just about sodomised the Beemer at the Stanley St lights a coouple of years ago. To bad for them that I was involved in some projects and were short listing some electricians at the time - about $250k of work. The list got one shorter....
Geoff

[xwhatsit]

I sent an email pointing to this thread but no reply. Not so keen on ringing up, to be honest, call me a pansy ;)

If I see him again I'll tap on his window and ask `wtf, mate?'.

Interested to see how the other thread about a guy that tried wiping me (and a few others) out will pan out; the one about the black Toyota Celica, plate # IBBAK. After observing the process there, I might go a bit further with this guy.

[Mountlocal1]

Note... A lot of work emails have mailsweeper that blocks emails from hotmail etc accts...So he may not have received it.

[twinshock750]

I get cut up on the pushie all the time I- usually use one of the follwoing options
1) nail them in traffic with some question they can't answer without making a fool of themselves,
2) park in such away they cannot get away,
3) just call the feds. This one is best, means you are seriously pissed. Sooner the better too. Longer you leave it, the less impact also means you are not in a confronation and they cannot use meance on you
4) I like this one - combination of 2 and 3 together concurrently. Really in your face stuff!!

It will always make them think twice ater that that they can't get away with shit. Especially if they look bad in front of lots of people.

I have no shame in this regard. There are no excuses for trying to run someone of the road...

[steveb64]

I sent an email pointing to this thread but no reply. Not so keen on ringing up, to be honest, call me a pansy ;)

guy.

Try sending to 'all@... or staff@... or management@... or admin@... or administration@...' Or send at to all of them. Their website also gives a number of addresses - CC them all in. Nothing like a bit of company gossip to shame the boss. I figure it must have been the boss, 'cos there's a photo of the staff on the website - and NO 4x4's in sight!:rockon:

[Reckless]

ye thats back to my idea earlier.
Do to man!
He probably won't be able to resist reading about what a twat he is once all his boyz are gigling about the incedent.

[inlinefour]

Yes, yes, I know, another whinging thread about mad cagers, but I found this one quite puzzling.

On my way to work going up Manukau Rd (I think Pah Rd, actually, not quite sure where one starts and the other ends), and I pull up to the lights. Rush hour, so there's already about 5 cars deep in each lane. I zip up to the head of the lights like normal.

I get a bit of a fright (jump in the seat) when once I get to the front, a bloke in a black 4x4 (Toyota Kruger, or Toyota something perhaps?) starts tooting the horn like crazy. He's a couple of cars back. Check the lights -- yep, they're green, what's going on? I just ignore him.

Lights go green, I take off. I'm probably doing just under 60kph (yes, I know, naughty, it's a 50kph zone, but all the traffic does that so I don't feel too evil), when screaming up behind me comes Mr 4x4. How'd he get there? Remember he was at least two cars back at the lights. I'm sitting near the middle of the lane in order to avoid some creases and tar snakes, and Mr 4x4 sees fit to sit maybe a metre behind me, flashing his lights, tooting his horn again. I indicate left and let him past -- nup, not having a ball of that, he sits level with me, pushing me more and more left until I'm centimetres away from the gutter. He keeps doing this until after very nearly colliding with a vehicle about to turn right on the opposite side of the road, he pins it and zooms past. Would've been doing 80kph, I would say. As he goes past I can hear him swearing and he pops the finger out the window.

Didn't catch the number plate (would've enjoyed phoning the police, it took a while for my heart to start again after nearly being pushed off the road), but on the back of the 4x4 was written `Lloyd's Electrical', or similar. So probably a company car, I suppose.

Now I'm no stranger to mental cagers, especially ones in company cars, but this was peculiar. Often, cager madness is a case of criminal neglect, rather than maliciousness. When it is malicious, it's because you've done something to piss them off -- drag the boy racer off from the lights, making him look shit in front of his girlfriend, for example; or perhaps failing to notice the traffic light has been green for some time. This doesn't seem to fall into either category.

Rush hour insanity? The man who ran away with his wife owned a CB250RS too?

Your theories please.

Some P freak who can't have any motorcyclists go past as he has the need to be in frount and will fly into a rage if anything else happens. These sort of people are going to allways feel justified in what they do, despite the obvious danger to others. I think the best thing to do is get well out of his way, let him go past and ignore the bullshit that is associated with this sort of thing.

[Reckless]

Some P freak who can't have any motorcyclists go past as he has the need to be in frount and will fly into a rage if anything else happens. These sort of people are going to allways feel justified in what they do, despite the obvious danger to others. I think the best thing to do is get well out of his way, let him go past and ignore the bullshit that is associated with this sort of thing.


I think thats what he did. I didn't read he smashed his miirior or abused him in anyway.
Doesn't mean he can't stir up some shit at work and let him and his workers know he's a twat! This is probably the type of guy thats really hard on his staff if they are caught doing this sort of stuff!

[inlinefour]

I think thats what he did. I didn't read he smashed his miirior or abused him in anyway.
Doesn't mean he can't stir up some shit at work and let him and his workers know he's a twat! This is probably the type of guy thats really hard on his staff if they are caught doing this sort of stuff!

I read he was abused and recieved the bird in the final passing of the 4WD, might want to review the first post Reckless. The fact of the matter is, the stirring he is doing is just more likely to reinforce this sort of bullshit to all motorcyclists and it might not be him who cops it next, but another rider who has done fuck all wrong, but because another twat has been causing shit. It never ceases to amaze me that some people clearly believe in an eye for an eye, what does that achieve?

[steveb64]

I read he was abused and recieved the bird in the final passing of the 4WD, might want to review the first post Reckless. The fact of the matter is, the stirring he is doing is just more likely to reinforce this sort of bullshit to all motorcyclists and it might not be him who cops it next, but another rider who has done fuck all wrong, but because another twat has been causing shit. It never ceases to amaze me that some people clearly believe in an eye for an eye, what does that achieve?

So, you believe in total anarchy then? Let anyone do whatever they like, and no consequences?

[inlinefour]

So, you believe in total anarchy then? Let anyone do whatever they like, and no consequences?

But I doubt that this would be the right thing to do. If he got the licience plate he should have made a complaint to the Police.

[xwhatsit]

I read he was abused and recieved the bird in the final passing of the 4WD, might want to review the first post Reckless. The fact of the matter is, the stirring he is doing is just more likely to reinforce this sort of bullshit to all motorcyclists and it might not be him who cops it next, but another rider who has done fuck all wrong, but because another twat has been causing shit. It never ceases to amaze me that some people clearly believe in an eye for an eye, what does that achieve?

No, the guy popped the bird out of the window at me and shouted some abuse, not vice versa. The whole time it happened I pretty much tried to ride as normally as possible.

I agree with what you're saying, actually; don't particularly feel like stirring up any more shit. I thought maybe flicking an email pointing to this thread might be interesting a while ago, but now it seems not such a good idea. If the email really disappeared into a black hole (surely GMail isn't blocked?), then so be it.

[Daffyd]

You could try an ad in the trade section of the local paper 'on behalf of the firm in question' to the effect that they specialise in trying to push m/cyclists off the road.

[inlinefour]

No, the guy popped the bird out of the window at me and shouted some abuse, not vice versa. The whole time it happened I pretty much tried to ride as normally as possible.

I agree with what you're saying, actually; don't particularly feel like stirring up any more shit. I thought maybe flicking an email pointing to this thread might be interesting a while ago, but now it seems not such a good idea. If the email really disappeared into a black hole (surely GMail isn't blocked?), then so be it.

Sweet, there will allways be the twats out there who get upset over a bike jumping the gun. We have a crap bottle neck in the main road north out of New Plymouth, which I used to run down the side of the procession of cages to the set of lights by Fitzroy. Would often get plenty of abuse and horns blowing at me. At the end of the day I would just smile and consider them morons...

I'm told that in England that some cagers even open their doors so that a motorcyclist hits it. A bit of abuse and the fingers, in which ever order, is pretty easy to cope with IMO.

[saltydog]

Do NOT shit under his door handle!
1. Have you ever tried this? It is f**king difficult to balance off the side of a car roof, so that the shit lands in the required spot. (Took me at least 3 "Myth-Busting" attempts). Its just not practical.

2. Better still, rub shit into his air vents, just under the windscreen.
Do this well, so that nothing is visible from the outside.

An old pomy guy told me that in the day the thing to do was take the hub-caps off the cage, shit in hubcap and replace. Reckons the smell last forever and is impossible to locate. But yes, the air vents is particularly nasty!!!