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Leong
14th October 2007, 14:13
Having travelled to Taupo and Manfeild to watch 4 out of the 5 rounds of the Actrix VMCC Superbike Road race series thus far I was obviously interested in racing. It's been great watching the many KB'ers racing and especially the ones I knew from trackdays. With lots of questions from various people about when I was going to have a go at racing and Gah having built himself a race bike, I thought that the last round on the A1GP track at Taupo, a circuit I have done NUMEROUS trackdays on would be the ideal circuit to do my first race meeting on. A couple of nights at Gavin's place got the bike race legal. Thanks Gav!! (And thanks for the advice and loan of the book). Then as a warm-up I did the AMCC Rider training last weekend and used tyre warmers (borrowed) for the first time. Thanks Terry. The entry fee for this event included free membership to the AMCC, which I needed to enter the VMCC race meeting. A few PMs to Bloody Mad Woman Shirley got me straight on what I needed to do/have to enter. Thanks Shirley. Much thought went into what tyres to use - stick to the Pilot Power 2CTs I'm familiar with or get some more track oriented or race tyres. After deciding to stick with what I knew, I even arranged with Chris Mitchell of Chris Mitchell Motorcycles (Taupo) and MotoTT for the option to put some new 2CTs on if I needed them after the test day. He agreed to hold these tyres for me and fit them if I needed them without obligation!! Thanks Chris!! And with Jill being away at MotoGP Philip Island, I got to borrow her tyre warmers for the meeting. Thanks Jill!!

My goals for the meeting were reasonably high - A top three finish was within reason I thought, as I'd run at similar pace to Glenn Mettam at a recent HRC trackday on Track 2, and I knew that he hadn't had much time on the A1GP track. I'd also run at a similar pace to Aria at MotoTT trackdays, though she'd gotten quicker since. These two lead the VMCC Clubmans Series. And some of the others in the series who'd done well at Manfeild probably hadn't done much time on the A1GP track. Issues for me were the race starts, which you don't do at trackdays, and getting onto good pace immediately, rather than slowly working up to it as you do on trackdays. With good advice from Phil, Jimmy and Jason I knew the theory - but making it happen is another matter.

Attending the test day on Friday, the aim was to get up to speed quickly each session and make sure I hadn't forgotten the track. Things went well on the track, and later in the day I went out onto the streets around the track and practiced a few starts. During one of these practices, I lifted the front wheel off the ground for the first time!! It was a fun day sharing a pit with Eddy, Nicky, Matt, Jimmy, Chris, Gavin, Jason and Gah. Thanks Eddy and Nicky!

Even staying at our usual motel didn't help the nerves and I woke up at 2am on race day and couldn't get back to sleep. In my head I was visualising laps around the A1GP track, and figuring out places I could pass Glenn on his GSXR1000 - perhaps at the end of the back straight as he hadn't done many laps on the full circuit, or if I could get better drive out of the final turn out onto the front straight and get inside him, then at the end of the front straight. To reduce the number of variables, I made Gah have breakfast at Burburys - like we usually do on trackdays!

Qualifying
I'd been considering how I might get a good lap in for qualifying with 30 bikes on the track. Getting to the dummy grid after most of the others I decide to hang back and create a gap ahead. Come turn 8 the two race bikes behind get sick of this and go by. Theres no-one in sight on the back straight so I attempt a good qualifying lap. Doesn't work out well though as I'm not really into the groove. On the back straight I've already caught someone probably trying to get a gap themselves. Lap 2 Turn 2 someone comes off in front of me, by turns 8 and 9 I'm in traffic, but as they're smaller bikes I can get by easily under power. Managed a best of 1.45.77 on my 5th lap in traffic which is good enough for 2nd. Looking back, it might have been better to try to go out first but it's unlikely that I could have bettered top qualifier Sloan Frost's time. The video is taken with my new unsorted bullet cam - there's interference on the video, and sounds poor, but at least I've some record of it. Unfortunately I put the video's remote on/off button where I can accidentally turn it off when tucking in, so video finishes on lap 4. Least we get to see a few KBers in action!
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Race 1
Real nervous about my first race start, but Jimmy's tip about starts was right and I got a good start and almost past pole sitter Sloan Frost. But he's on my inside and I button off way too early for the turn 1. He gets thru turn 1 in first. Luke Mair meanwhile makes one of his legendary starts and goes round the outside of me on turn 1. I'm ahead of him entering turn 2, but he's got the inside line and takes it. Try to exit turn 5 inside him but that doesn't work. Turn 7 I get around him on the outside and set after Sloan but he's much quicker than me. Did a reasonable job of lap 2 but coming onto the main straight on lap 3 I find I'm in third instead of second, then I make a few more silly mistakes so I tell myself to settle, slow a little as I think theres a little gap back to third. But come the end of the back straight on the last lap I hear Glenn behind me, hold a tight line and manage to get over the line ahead of him. A second in my first race. Very happy with that!! Video of the full race, but its boring after the first half a lap.
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Race 2
More nerves before the start. I've qualified second, finished second in the first race. My goal was to finish second again as Sloan's way too quick. On the dummy grid I ask him to slow a little to show me a few lines and perhaps improve my lap times!! Perhaps I shouldn't have thought about it but a crash in the second race would really wreck what has been a great weekend!!. Got moving OK at the start but let the clutch out a little quick and bog a little. So does Sloan. As usual Luke gets a great start, and so does Glenn from grid 6. Luke leads out of turn 1 followed by Sloan and Glenn's coming round the outside of me on one. I get on the gas earlier and am a bit more aggressive going into turn 2 ahead of Glenn and in third place. With Sloan tucked behind Luke I think this is going to be a more interesting race. Going into the sweeper at the end of the old pit straight (I think) Sloan goes inside Luke to take the lead. I follow Luke down the straight and manage to get him round the outside coming onto the front straight. Sloan's not too far ahead and I get a good view of his lines and manage an official 1.42.9 following him. He's pulling away from me and I notice from the time sheets that my times drop to my more usual 1.44s for laps 3 and 4 which is enough to finish second with a better margin over Luke. Managed to accidentally switch off the camera just before the start so no video.

So I qualified second and finished second in both races. Overall second for the meeting. Very happy with that though I can't help thinking what a great story I could tell if Sloan hadn't decided to do his first race meeting on the same day as me!! Nevertheless I had an excellent day. Yes trackdays are fun, but like many of you guys said, racing is better again ( and perhaps addictive?).

Final thanks to Colin for coming down to help on race day, Gah for driving me around this weekend, and Terry and Cherry McCamish for all their encouragement and dinner on Friday night!! And a big thanks to Aaron Slight who's taught me the most about track riding. Oh and thanks to Glenn for the pit garage on Saturday!

One decision made - Eddy can you get me a set of tyre warmers? Yet to decide on race fairings....and whether to continue racing...

kiwifruit
14th October 2007, 14:20
Awesome effort Leong!!

Riff Raff
14th October 2007, 14:26
Awesome stuff Leong. You did bloody well for your first time racing.

jrandom
14th October 2007, 14:29
Well done! You make it sound so easy!

Hmm...

:shifty:

ArcherWC
14th October 2007, 16:04
Well done! You make it sound so easy!

Hmm...

:shifty:
he made it look easy to, from way behind him that is, way to go mate, f2 for you im thinking

BarBender
14th October 2007, 16:08
Awesome Leong...
My son and I werent too far off the times were we?
Hope Gar went well.

Two Smoker
14th October 2007, 16:23
Awesome Stuff Leong :niceone: 1:42's is bloody good!!!

FROSTY
14th October 2007, 18:23
stunning result dude

GIXser
14th October 2007, 18:31
Great Stuff Leong" you were hauling out there, be good to have a bit of a justle at the kb day" good to see Gah out there as well,
me reckons both of ya have got the "bug now"

Brett
14th October 2007, 19:02
Well done Leong...not bad at all for your first race!

Sanx
14th October 2007, 19:06
Damn good effort for the first race, Leong. You were hauling arse out of turn 7 and had your knee down the entire length of the sweeper. Pretty impressive to watch.

Leong
14th October 2007, 20:38
Thanks for the comments everyone!!


he made it look easy to, from way behind him that is, way to go mate, f2 for you im thinking
Nah mate, too much fun racing you!! Look fwd to a rematch in a couple of weeks - Got the garage sorted?


Awesome Leong...
My son and I werent too far off the times were we?
Hope Gar went well.
Times were better at that last trackday I thought.... more time to get in the groove etc. Gah made lots of changes eg from ZX6 to GSRX and is taking time to get used to things - we're doing 3 trackdays in a row weekend after next - should be sweet after that!!


Great Stuff Leong" you were hauling out there, be good to have a bit of a justle at the kb day" good to see Gah out there as well,
me reckons both of ya have got the "bug now"
Not sure I can keep up with you mate!! You and Phil were flying in your races. Yeah the racing seems to have more purpose....

Hope we get a few of the good guys out there on the KB day. Was really good following Chris and Jay last time - Was good of them to slow and wait for us every half lap!!


Damn good effort for the first race, Leong. You were hauling arse out of turn 7 and had your knee down the entire length of the sweeper. Pretty impressive to watch.
Thanks mate. Managed to pick up some pace by using the knee down on the left, but still can't get the knee down consistently on the right. In discussions with Jill bout this - seems I need to do a bit more practice at Puke - or maybe Manfeild!! Thanks for the pics!!!

limbimtimwim
14th October 2007, 20:45
You did well.

A little too well. ;)

Deano
14th October 2007, 20:53
That's a bloody good lap time and a great result! Well done.

Nicksta
14th October 2007, 20:57
awesome stuff Leong!!
was very cool to finally see you out there racing!!!
well done on your 2nd place.... i put my money on you having the bug!
you've got your sash coming in the post :) i cheered when they called your name at prize giving.
what next? F2 at AMCC or PMCC? 18th November!

Two Smoker
14th October 2007, 21:01
Hope we get a few of the good guys out there on the KB day. Was really good following Chris and Jay last time - Was good of them to slow and wait for us every half lap!!


I should be there, and im trying to convince Jay to come...

Mumbles
14th October 2007, 21:18
Video #1 who binned it in front of you about 3:50 on the video timer :eek:......

Nice to see you caught the bug.... wish there where more cameras on bikes out there!

First race meeting .... these guys better watch out, will post pic of your pre race "getting in the zone :confused: face" once I've pulled them off the camera

Leong
14th October 2007, 21:36
Don't know who that was - Turn 2 during Qualifying.

Cleve
14th October 2007, 21:52
Great stuff Leong and good for you for giving racing a go. Now watch that hole burn big in your pocket!!!

Toast
14th October 2007, 22:25
Nice one Leong :niceone:

Really good effort out there. I knew you'd do really well after riding with you at that trackday a while back. You looked super smooth out there on the track. It'd be great if you kept at it. F1/F2 for ya at some stage in the near future, for sure! Just stop being so nice when it gets close in the corners :)

HDTboy
15th October 2007, 06:33
im trying to convince Jay to come...

Jay will come, with a little bit of help from you and I.


I told you you're not slow Leong, was awesome to hear you were doing so well. You won a sash too, but weren't at prize giving to pick it up

Bloody Mad Woman (BMW)
15th October 2007, 10:18
You did so well - when I saw you on the grid in position 2 I thought holy shit it's the guy's first time racing! Awesome result and well deserved. I think we will be seeing you at our next winter series!!
Cheers

Meekey_Mouse
15th October 2007, 13:04
Awesome write up Leong! I didn't know you were racing until I watched the second race and saw you in the grid, good on ya for getting out there :woohoo: and second on your first race meeting... Wow! Totally awesome :2thumbsup :cool:

Clivoris
15th October 2007, 18:39
Planning for the full season next year? Awesome show mate.

saul
15th October 2007, 18:47
Mate that is a great effort well done:apint:

cowpoos
15th October 2007, 20:22
well done mate!!!

Leong
16th October 2007, 20:34
awesome stuff Leong!!
was very cool to finally see you out there racing!!!
well done on your 2nd place.... i put my money on you having the bug!
you've got your sash coming in the post :) i cheered when they called your name at prize giving.
what next? F2 at AMCC or PMCC? 18th November!

What's next?? The trackday triple (MotoTT, Suzuki and KB), HRC trackday on 8 November.... but no Racedays at this stage... have a feeling my luck may run out if I keep using road fairings!!! Tempted to do AMCC though - cos Gah, Brian and Phil will be there in F2!


You won a sash too, but weren't at prize giving to pick it up
Cool, a motorcycling "trophy"!! Shame we couldn't stay for the prizegiving - needed to do the family thing Sunday to build up credits for our trackday triple!!

GIXser
16th October 2007, 21:04
!! Shame we couldn't stay for the prizegiving - needed to do the family thing Sunday to build up credits for our trackday triple!!


i hear ya, i shot back to to see the family,! i wanted to stay for the night , but like you say its building credits for the next event.:(

duckaddict
16th October 2007, 22:17
Congrats! Well done Leong!

here are some pixs from the day.

NinjaBoy
17th October 2007, 21:33
Good writeup and an awesome result for the day. Obviously all that tracktime at Taupo has paid off. Maybe if I can get my head around this Gixxer I might come close to keeping up.

So where to now ? More trackdays or have you caught the bug?

vtec
17th October 2007, 21:37
Brilliant mate. Get some race tyres and then get your shoulders and head down.

Leong
18th October 2007, 18:43
Congrats! Well done Leong!

here are some pixs from the day.
Thanks for the pics!! I like that first one - Haha!! Looks like we got an even start. Thanks for the help on the day!


Good writeup and an awesome result for the day. Obviously all that tracktime at Taupo has paid off. Maybe if I can get my head around this Gixxer I might come close to keeping up.

So where to now ? More trackdays or have you caught the bug?
More trackdays booked - Will come pit for you on the 18th - unless I've entered...


Brilliant mate. Get some race tyres and then get your shoulders and head down.
Yes, got some Diablo Supercorsas to try..... lots to work on - I've only recently (7 October AMCC training) realised what a difference tucking in really makes. Interesting looking at the photos re the different body positions in the same corner. Good to see you out there too!!

driftn
19th October 2007, 18:46
Hey man awesome work out there:clap:. I think once i get a bike that actually likes corners we will have some great races. I do have 1 piece of advice for you though and that is to forget every thing jimmy told you about starts. Im not sure if you have noticed but his starts suck(if were talking about the same jimmy here).

Leong
22nd October 2007, 17:26
Hey man awesome work out there:clap:. I think once i get a bike that actually likes corners we will have some great races. I do have 1 piece of advice for you though and that is to forget every thing jimmy told you about starts. Im not sure if you have noticed but his starts suck(if were talking about the same jimmy here).

I don't think so. Given you hadn't even see the A1GP track till raceday, when you get a bike that likes corners, I wouldn't stand a chance!! Yes, we're talking about the same Jimmy - what he said worked - but yeah - you've probably got the better record!!! :laugh:

CHOPPA
5th November 2007, 15:20
cool write up! i felt your nerves too! it was my second time racing, i raced 1 small event like 2 years ago then went back to mx so it was like a first race meeting all over! then when my chain came off on lap 3 of qualifing i thought it was all over! good to see you at the recent track day those times are really startin to come down huh I reakon we could give a few of those f2 guys a go! anyway if your around im gonna give puke a try on friday its always good to ride with 600s!

Leong
5th November 2007, 17:34
Hey CHOPPA, Welcome to KB!! Tis a good place to meet like minded folk. Yes, saw you at the last MotoTT - got some video of you though it was with the little bulletcam and has a bit of interference - will post it when I get a chance - busy doing the Suzuki trackday one at the mo.

Yes, I've caught the bug and have some race fairings on the way. Entered F2 at PMCC 18 Nov - hopefully finish mid field though with AMCC the same day there may not be many entries. Is it a test day at Puke on Friday? I've got the day off work, but it's to go do a course!.

Kornholio
5th November 2007, 19:02
Awesome one L... You were all over me at the track day during our little battle and i thought this man is no slug!!... So I take it you were racing in clubmans?

Leong
5th November 2007, 20:21
Awesome one L... You were all over me at the track day during our little battle and i thought this man is no slug!!... So I take it you were racing in clubmans?

Yes it was Clubmans - Hope I've made the right decision to to go F2 after so little "race" experience. Haven't had much "dicing" with others recently until our little battle. That was not just fun but good for trying out alterrnative lines etc. Shame I'll be away for the next MotoTT - would be good to have a rematch. :yes:

BTW while I qualified 2nd and finished 2nd in both races, CHOPPA TQ'ed and WON both races!!!! :clap:

Toast
5th November 2007, 20:53
good to see you at the recent track day those times are really startin to come down huh I reakon we could give a few of those f2 guys a go!!

You sure would!

So stop being a couple of burglars and go give it a go :niceone:

CHOPPA
7th November 2007, 20:54
when you get tyre warmers you should check out the generators from bunnings, mine is tiny in size it was only $100 and its good for 850w a little less then the warmers require but it works mint!

NinjaBoy
7th November 2007, 22:12
when you get tyre warmers you should check out the generators from bunnings, mine is tiny in size it was only $100 and its good for 850w a little less then the warmers require but it works mint!

Yeah I was looking at these. So what power output do you need for warmers ? 1kW + ?

kiwifruit
7th November 2007, 22:16
F2 Leong :) F2

CHOPPA
8th November 2007, 19:30
yeah i think there 450w for the front and 550w for the rear so 1kw, i have the digital type warmers and the 850w geny has been sweet and its so small and light, just gotta put a 100ml of 2 stroke in each tank full is the only downfall...

Leong
9th November 2007, 22:38
You sure would!
So stop being a couple of burglars and go give it a go :niceone:


F2 Leong :) F2

I hear ya's!! But it'll be PMCC for me Phil. DOn't have the balls to go quick at Puke


yeah i think there 450w for the front and 550w for the rear so 1kw, i have the digital type warmers and the 850w geny has been sweet and its so small and light, just gotta put a 100ml of 2 stroke in each tank full is the only downfall...
Cheers! If I got a generator it would NEED to be tiny and light. Struggling to find room in the garage for the extra fairings. BTW my race fairings arrived today!! :banana:

CHOPPA
10th November 2007, 19:51
I went to puke yesterday, that tracks got some scary bits in it! I just purchased a lap timing device etc etc was real helpfull with gettin my times down! There is 2 races next weekend 1 at taupo 1 at puke not sure what to do? i figure puke would be better cause i can enter 2 classes... I think? do you know what formula auckland means? and are you gonna race?

Leong
10th November 2007, 20:03
I went to puke yesterday, that tracks got some scary bits in it! I just purchased a lap timing device etc etc was real helpfull with gettin my times down! There is 2 races next weekend 1 at taupo 1 at puke not sure what to do? i figure puke would be better cause i can enter 2 classes... I think? do you know what formula auckland means? and are you gonna race?

And the faster you go I think the scarier it gets....!! Cool bout the lap timer!!

Gah and I are going to Taupo. Downside of this is can't cross enter as F1 and F2 are the same race, further away from home, and no lap timing or qualifying - ie first come first served grid positions. The only upside is that I like the track better - and less scary if you want to get those lap times down.

emaN
10th November 2007, 20:47
great stuff leong!
if i may, look up where yours develops peak power, that way you can fiddle with gearing & avoid having a chat with Mr Limiter as much..
look forward to the Manfield Suzuki day footage :)
(no wonder i was struggling to even remotely hold on to ya that day! those tyre warmers did their job, innit?!)

Toast
11th November 2007, 19:16
I went to puke yesterday, that tracks got some scary bits in it! I just purchased a lap timing device etc etc was real helpfull with gettin my times down! There is 2 races next weekend 1 at taupo 1 at puke not sure what to do? i figure puke would be better cause i can enter 2 classes... I think? do you know what formula auckland means? and are you gonna race?

I'm doing AMCC for the same reason...can enter two classes. Plus, if history is anything to go by, it will be better organised than PMCC.

Formula Auckland is just F1/Superbike, basically the open class. So you can enter that and F2.

Yeah Puke is a scary mongrel of a track, but can be very good fun in certain parts when you get it right.

What sort of times were you getting at the Open Day?

Leong
11th November 2007, 20:17
great stuff leong!
if i may, look up where yours develops peak power, that way you can fiddle with gearing & avoid having a chat with Mr Limiter as much..
look forward to the Manfield Suzuki day footage :)
(no wonder i was struggling to even remotely hold on to ya that day! those tyre warmers did their job, innit?!)

:laugh: Gearing.... yet another thing to fiddle with and learn about!! Warmers are great. Did the Honda day without them last week and that really proved just how much difference it makes to the feel of the tyres and confidence from the start. Not to mention the reduction in the number of heat cycles

Manfeild Suzuki footage is here http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=60393 and you're in it....(trying to run me over!!)

CHOPPA
12th November 2007, 17:14
yeah Id much rather ride taupo but I think I need a bit more practice at puke so ill go there...

When I got clean laps I was comfortably in the 103s which is a long way off race pace from what I have been told... I think the good guys are like 7 secs a lap faster then that so im gonna get smoked!

Shaun P
12th November 2007, 17:29
Hey bro thats a good time for a 600, maybe some will be a bit quicker but they will pull you along, knowing you! See you there on the 9th Dec.

Shaun

Toast
12th November 2007, 17:34
yeah Id much rather ride taupo but I think I need a bit more practice at puke so ill go there...

When I got clean laps I was comfortably in the 103s which is a long way off race pace from what I have been told... I think the good guys are like 7 secs a lap faster then that so im gonna get smoked!

Good stuff, mate! 1:03's is bloody awesome for your first time there!

If, by the good guys, you mean Sam Smith, Scott Charlton, etc. Then yeah, you're a bit off their pace, which is mid 58's on a 600.

So only 5 seconds off them at your first attempt is not something to be disappointed with.