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homer
14th October 2007, 16:15
anyone out there ?
I have a suzuki 1200 bandit
i am looking to get a new rear tyre any time now .I am thinking of a bt 021 they look good and are good for a lot of mileage
I dont ride hard and dont get off the seat to go round corners
Can anyone give me some ideas of good highmileage tyres for this bike
the only real high mileage tyre i know of is a metzler m55 if you still get them or is there an update for them ?
I dont want a 8000km tyre am looking for more than that
understandably if riding hard it will wear quicker
if a bt 021 will last about 12000km then fine
Whats you opinion ?
:whistle:
MSTRS
14th October 2007, 16:19
Macadam 100X.
Blue Bandito
28th October 2007, 14:41
I use Metzler Z6 both front and rear on my bandit. Can get 10 000K from a rear and a bit more form the front.
They are great in the wet and handle well in the dry.
I do a lot of touring and long distance riding on them and they are proving to be very good.
Would highly recommend them.
Cheers
Hitcher
28th October 2007, 14:53
My top sports touring tyre at the moment is the Avon Storm, even though I currently have a set of Michelin Pilot Road 2s on, which aren't too bad either.
beyond
28th October 2007, 15:00
My 1400 eats tyres quickly. Metzeler Z6's around 4,000kms a rear but they are good and if you don't ride hard you'll get heaps more out of them. Great in the wet and dry.
My preferred tyre that lasts even longer and is still good in the wet and dry is the Michelin Pilot Road 2. Harder compound in the middle and softer to the edges where you need it for cornering.
These tyres last the longest on my bike without compromising cornering ability and wet performance. You can't go past the Pilot Roads on a bigger torque bike.
banditrider
28th October 2007, 15:04
anyone out there ?
I have a suzuki 1200 bandit
i am looking to get a new rear tyre any time now .I am thinking of a bt 021 they look good and are good for a lot of mileage
I dont ride hard and dont get off the seat to go round corners
Can anyone give me some ideas of good highmileage tyres for this bike
the only real high mileage tyre i know of is a metzler m55 if you still get them or is there an update for them ?
I dont want a 8000km tyre am looking for more than that
understandably if riding hard it will wear quicker
if a bt 021 will last about 12000km then fine
Whats you opinion ?
:whistle:
My K2 Bandit had Battleaxes on it standard and I did not like them. No front end feel. Concours has newer verison of Battleaxe and is better but I still don't like the front. Would recommend the Z6 Metzlers for the Bandit.
klyong82
28th October 2007, 15:12
Had Metzlers Z6 on the Guzzi Breva felt good in dry and wet. Managed to get 12500km on the rear before it got a puncture. Good touring tyre.
The Stranger
28th October 2007, 15:25
My 1400 eats tyres quickly. Metzeler Z6's around 4,000kms a rear but they are good and if you don't ride hard you'll get heaps more out of them. Great in the wet and dry.
My preferred tyre that lasts even longer and is still good in the wet and dry is the Michelin Pilot Road 2. Harder compound in the middle and softer to the edges where you need it for cornering.
These tyres last the longest on my bike without compromising cornering ability and wet performance. You can't go past the Pilot Roads on a bigger torque bike.
Would second this.
The Z6 on the X11 was an excellent tyre and got just about 6,000km.
I have just changed the Pilot Roads on the Fazer at the 10,000km service.
I have a set of Conti Race Attacks on the Fazer now ex Two Smoker - farken awesome, even in the pissing rain last night, but somehow, I don't expect they will last too long.
Plan to try a set of Conti Road Attacks next for a bit of longevity.
If you want long life and cheap for commuting I would suggest also the Shinko 005. I had one on the GSXR. It's wide and quite flat. Feels strange at lean as it kind of falls off the corner of the tyre and pops up on throttle at exit, but still, fine for commuting
pritch
28th October 2007, 15:59
It might seem like a stuck record but I have been using Z6s for some time. There are some hereabout were using them that ride a lot harder than me too.
One day I'd like to try Pirelli but so far I haven't got around to it. Mainly because of their funny inbred marketing strategy...
Hitcher
28th October 2007, 16:03
One day I'd like to try Pirelli but so far I haven't got around to it.
Pirelli and Metzeler are the same company. I wouldn't be surprised if the Z6 and the Diablo Strada are the same tyre, with a slightly different tread pattern.
banditrider
28th October 2007, 16:26
Pirelli and Metzeler are the same company. I wouldn't be surprised if the Z6 and the Diablo Strada are the same tyre, with a slightly different tread pattern.
Yep, I had to run some Pirellis once when Metzlers were out of stock. Not sure what they were but i got the speech about being the same company and had no issues with them.
homer
28th October 2007, 17:58
I was going to go for the bt 021
Then a lot of home work got me to this point
Apparently from what ive been told i dont doubt it having dealing with the shop ,the supplier has told the shop i will deal with, the metzler has been road tested in nz this is NOT a scientific test i dont know by who but i now know this to be genuine
Its also from what ive been told to be the only tyre they tested here that they know of.
so dont ask me who did didnt do what ever they did...i dont know
Anyways the metzler z6 looks to be the best suited for wear grip and handling on our nz roads ..
So its a m z6
And apparently these have to be run at not less than 40 psi or they wear the quickest.
Must have done some testing to get that right .
This is for a 180 /55 /17
bane
28th October 2007, 18:11
I got 8.5k out of my rear pirelli strada - front is about to be replaced at 9.5k.
Given 70% of that milage is coro loop or similar, think they did pretty well.
Only now is the front starting to push.
Although my bike is hardly a torque monster, as a package we weigh 330kg.
homer
28th October 2007, 18:17
I got 8.5k out of my rear pirelli strada - front is about to be replaced at 9.5k.
Given 70% of that milage is coro loop or similar, think they did pretty well.
Only now is the front starting to push.
Although my bike is hardly a torque monster, as a package we weigh 330kg.
I could be wrong .....
But its not the weight apparently
but its the heat created from to little pressure
banditrider
28th October 2007, 18:24
If you're too far either side of recommended pressure the tyre deforms a little and this causes the tyre to wear unevenly. Stick to bike manufacturer's recommended pressures. Bandit = 36psi front & rear.
geoffm
28th October 2007, 19:15
Had MEZ6s on the BMW (which is a fat pig) for the last 2 tyre changes. It has gust had a change to Bridgestone BT020, mainly because I got a set for 2/3 the price, including the 160/16-18 rear the BMW uses. I probalby woudl have used the Z6s again or the Pirelli equivalent otherwise.
The Z6s were ok, with 8-9k rear, and 10-11k front. THey squared off on the rear with commuting whcih made handling interesting towards the end of their life. Some really high mileage Beemer use Metz ME880s and recon they are good.
The usual tradeoff is wet weather performance.
Geoff
homer
28th October 2007, 19:18
sweet
Ill get a z6 and try it anyways since its practacly ordered
MSTRS
29th October 2007, 07:58
You won't regret the Z6. I had the Z4 on my old GSXR1100, lasted 11,000k - replaced with a Z6, had done about 9,000k when I sold the bike and was just starting to show a flatter centre.
MSTRS
29th October 2007, 10:09
For those that have heard of the Pilot Road 2 (dual compound)....these have now done 2700ks on my 750 including a trackday, and they are looking great with no whoopsie moments.
The front has approx 5mm chicken strips. The rear (pictured) shows no signs of squaring and has been to the edge both sides with total confidence.
scumdog
29th October 2007, 10:34
Continental 'Milestone' tyres - used them for a few years, last for ages and no problems in the wet etc but then I am just a plodder on the roads.
Drew
29th October 2007, 10:46
I would like to point out, no tire will last as long as it should, unless your suspension is in good order. I went for a ride yesterday with Kerry the wellington Ohlins rep/tech/freak, and when we met up with him, his rear tyre (racetec) had very little in the way of tread, he's piloting a very fast '07 ZX10, which you will all be aware should destroy rear tyres. Anyhoo, we go thundering around the Wairarapa at a decent clip through the twisty stuff, holoy shit, at the end of a hundred odd k's of silly buggers his tyre looked exactly the same! He is getting 8000k's from a pair of tyres and I am telling you the guy is no slouch!
Shell out for the decent suspension, and it will pay for itself in no time. Do the maths, $500 a pair, twice the longevity from them from a $4000 investment. 4 Sets pay for the work, and your bike will feel better, brake better, turn better, and be safer.
roogazza
29th October 2007, 13:56
Did your head feel a bit fuzzy and did ya have a sore bum Monday morn after a few bourbons ?
Gotta watch him, he'll drug ya and do weird things after watching "videos" !!!!! Gaz. :laugh::laugh:
Drew
29th October 2007, 16:54
Did your head feel a bit fuzzy and did ya have a sore bum Monday morn after a few bourbons ?
Gotta watch him, he'll drug ya and do weird things after watching "videos" !!!!! Gaz. :laugh::laugh:
You ARE dripping with irony, and the voice of experience.:crazy:
I usually make a point of driving everywhere, that way I have an excuse for not drinking, instead of making it blatently obvious I'm a lightweight when it comes to drinking.
imdying
29th October 2007, 17:06
I would like to point out, no tire will last as long as it should, unless your suspension is in good order.Seconded... OABs gixxer on the track mate a fair mess of the rear, with the Ohlins fitted, hardly any wear. Night and day.
homer
29th October 2007, 20:44
You ARE dripping with irony, and the voice of experience.:crazy:
I usually make a point of driving everywhere, that way I have an excuse for not drinking, instead of making it blatently obvious I'm a lightweight when it comes to drinking.
I am only assuming this
But since the bike is in a like new condition and ive only had it about 3 to 4 months and its first regestered in 2004 (2003) model
Im hoping the back end is quite fine.
Drew
29th October 2007, 21:31
I am only assuming this
But since the bike is in a like new condition and ive only had it about 3 to 4 months and its first regestered in 2004 (2003) model
Im hoping the back end is quite fine.
Sorry mate, even the flash Ohlins gear on certain special models is no where near up to the task of NZ roads, without an expert fiddling with it. I am not an expert, and one is required here to give explaination why. And a brand new out of the box manufacturers OE part is SERIOUSLY lacking in every area.
The right shock is sprung for your weight, and valved for your riding. I'm sure the nail is hit squarly by luck in some cases, but it would be so unlikely, you shouldn't entertain the posibility.
Day and night is the best analogy I have heard to describe how it was, and is, before and after decent gear is put between anyones wheels and frame.
If you can afford the investment, that is truely what it is. And a sound one at that.
homer
30th October 2007, 20:31
Sorry mate, even the flash Ohlins gear on certain special models is no where near up to the task of NZ roads, without an expert fiddling with it. I am not an expert, and one is required here to give explaination why. And a brand new out of the box manufacturers OE part is SERIOUSLY lacking in every area.
The right shock is sprung for your weight, and valved for your riding. I'm sure the nail is hit squarly by luck in some cases, but it would be so unlikely, you shouldn't entertain the posibility.
Day and night is the best analogy I have heard to describe how it was, and is, before and after decent gear is put between anyones wheels and frame.
If you can afford the investment, that is truely what it is. And a sound one at that.
very interesting
i dont know what it runs in the back end i really have taken any notice
i just check the oil start it and ride
but i do trust the rubber to keep me there
not as much as a car .......but in a car i trust my tyres 10 times more
at least a car bounces across the road a bit when u push it to much in a corner
i dont ride a bike that hard
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