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Ragingrob
14th October 2007, 17:22
Hey when I ride on the motorway or the such where you don't do any gear changes or move the throttle around much I seem to get a kinda pins and needles sensation in my arms and hands and they start to feel kinda dead as if there's no blood getting to them. Does anyone else get/used to get this? Any suggestions as to what the problem may be?

Thanks :)

Gubb
14th October 2007, 17:26
I'm the same, when I feel it coming on, I wait till you have a bit of room in front of you, remove your throttle hand, and give it a few solid fist clenches. Seems to go away for me straight away.

MSTRS
14th October 2007, 17:29
On a GN? Normally more common with the sprotsbike riding position. I'd hazard a guess and say that your gloves are too tight - get the next size up.

FROSTY
14th October 2007, 17:29
RELAX--repeating myself I know--Youre most likely hanging on too tight

Ragingrob
14th October 2007, 17:29
Yeah I've been getting rid of it by taking my hands off, I just wonder if there's any tips to prevent it in the first place.

Ragingrob
14th October 2007, 17:31
Hmm yeah thanks maybe I wont do my gloves up as much as I do, and I try relax as much as possible but lately with the wind on the motorway it's been a bit hard.

TLMAN
14th October 2007, 17:31
Hey when I ride on the motorway or the such where you don't do any gear changes or move the throttle around much I seem to get a kinda pins and needles sensation in my arms and hands and they start to feel kinda dead as if there's no blood getting to them. Does anyone else get/used to get this? Any suggestions as to what the problem may be?

Thanks :)


I always wonder that when i see those guys on harleys with the big ape hangers. With your arms up in the air like that all the blood would drain away.

JimO
14th October 2007, 17:52
could be carpal tunnel syndrome......google is your freind

deanohit
14th October 2007, 17:59
Ask The Stranger what you should do with numb hands. :tugger:

Often when riding, my index and middle finger get pins an needles after awhile and as a result, I have trouble feeling the front brake lever. :blink:
I find the best fix is to keep your grip relaxed and move your hand whenever you can.

paturoa
14th October 2007, 18:07
Just a thought.. try sitting further forward or rearward. On one of my old bikes (about 20 years ago!) the reach to the bars was too short and I found myself pullig my self forward / hanging on, and getting sore arms until I moved my arse back.

Ragingrob
14th October 2007, 18:09
Just a thought.. try sitting further forward or rearward. On one of my old bikes (about 20 years ago!) the reach to the bars was too short and I found myself pullig my self forward / hanging on, and getting sore arms until I moved my arse back.

Ah ok great point will try that next time too!

James Deuce
14th October 2007, 18:10
The windier it is the MORE you have to relax.

Relax your grip, you're holding on too hard. Your arms are for steering and your knees are for holding on. See if you can find some SR250 bars, they're a more rational bend. Stoopid GN chopper bars.

aroberts
14th October 2007, 18:12
I get this. I think it is just when gripping too hard. As soon as I notice it, I just start to change my grip, tighten, loosen, tighten, loosen. It seems to come right pretty quickly.

Ragingrob
14th October 2007, 18:13
It's so hard to relax more when you're being blown all around the lane though! I do try!

breakaway
14th October 2007, 18:21
Pins and needles are caused by lack of blood flow or nerve compression, I think. I've got the nerve issue, but it's not as severe as what you described!

MyGSXF
14th October 2007, 18:33
I have had carpel tunnel for years.. when I do long trips, I have found that wearing a pressure bandage on my arms helps. I cut a hole in it for my thumb, so one end comes up to about the base of my fingers & the other end goes half way up my forearm. :yes:

I also stop every 100ks to have a rest (ie: otherwise known as a pee stop :rolleyes:) & every downhill chance I get that is practical, I let my arm hang down for a while & flex my fingers. On longer open stretches of road, I sometimes have to hold the throttle with the base of my hand & flex my fingers open & closed several times.

Sometimes it's a bloody curse.. :argh:but I'll be foooked if I'm giving up riding cause of it!! :oi-grr:

Subike
14th October 2007, 18:35
I wonder what you do for a job. I use to get this sensation all the time when riding and driving. I no longer do. It started when I was recycling alloy engines, breaking down motors and constantly using my arms and hands with tools. The same condition is experianced by block layers and hammer hands.
Its simply over use of you arm muscles constantly daily. My symtoms faded after not using hand tools on a daily basis. But I also agree that riding position and bar grip angles can highten this sissue

The Lone Rider
14th October 2007, 18:39
Could also try getting a throttle boss for your grips :D

I'm thinking of getting one.

Ragingrob
14th October 2007, 18:49
I wonder what you do for a job. I use to get this sensation all the time when riding and driving. I no longer do. It started when I was recycling alloy engines, breaking down motors and constantly using my arms and hands with tools. The same condition is experianced by block layers and hammer hands.
Its simply over use of you arm muscles constantly daily. My symtoms faded after not using hand tools on a daily basis. But I also agree that riding position and bar grip angles can highten this sissue

Well if that's the case...I coach tennis lol, so that could explain a bit, well for one arm anyway!

kave
14th October 2007, 19:34
The fact that singles are a little vibey could be having some effect, I find my hands (and arse) get a little numb after anything longer than 200km without a break.

JimO
14th October 2007, 19:44
My bet is carpal tunnel syndrome.

thats what i said.....cos i had it and had the operation to fix it

Toaster
14th October 2007, 19:52
RELAX--repeating myself I know--Youre most likely hanging on too tight

Absolutely agree with Frosty. It is a common problem for newer riders to hang on too tight through sheer nerves etc. Try to breath deeper and try to relax on the bike more.

Ragingrob
14th October 2007, 19:59
My bet is carpal tunnel syndrome.

Surely then it would happen to me many other times, not just when riding? Cause that's the only time it's ever happened in my life.

MarkyMark
14th October 2007, 20:01
Hanging on too tightly also means your gloves can't dampen the vibrations at all, so probably makes that effect worse? I've ridden my SR250 Dunedin-Christchurch several times, and just relaxing is key, along with plenty of stops.

mbazza
14th October 2007, 20:21
Last year I did a quick tour round some Marlborough roads. On one 60k section I tried hard and held on with such grip that I dented my wedding ring! Cheers.

SVboy
14th October 2007, 20:29
I used to get a numb throttle hand on my SV650s. I worked on it by;letting my left arm take more load sometimes, relaxing my grip, flexing hand as much as poss, straightening hand on top of throttle[horizontal], taking hand off grip when going downhill[if safe!], gripping tank with knees & letting ab's support me-pressure off arms! Some ideas for you!

kiwifruit
14th October 2007, 20:39
RELAX--repeating myself I know--Youre most likely hanging on too tight


could be carpal tunnel syndrome......google is your freind

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relax, use your core, take weight off your hands

Drunken Monkey
14th October 2007, 21:56
Absolutely agree with Frosty. It is a common problem for newer riders to hang on too tight through sheer nerves etc. Try to breath deeper and try to relax on the bike more.


Plus the basic one that everyone seems to have missed:
Hold on to the bike by gripping the tank with your thighs. The handlebars are just for steering and only need to be held lightly.

Ragingrob
15th October 2007, 08:33
^

Some people have mentioned that :)

Thanks.

duckonin
15th October 2007, 08:50
spend $5-$10 not sure what they cost (cramp buster) clips onto you throttle grip and when your hand needs a rest from the return spring you can lay your fingers onto the brake lever and use the throttle with the palm of your hand, in other words your hand is wide open...works for me...

Ragingrob
15th October 2007, 08:59
^ Interesting...so it helps hold the throttle when you want to have a little break? Kinda like cruise control haha?

foxmoth
15th October 2007, 09:14
i thought my jacket was to tight under my arms, or too hairy :woohoo: my oestopath said it was a common affliction in push bike riders too, whoa steady on. she will massge the back of your neck at the base and stretch it by pulling on your head, it worked and acc pays half.:confused:

fliplid
1st November 2007, 20:13
Piece of advice someone told me years ago... If you can't "flap" your elbows whilst riding, you're holding onto the bars too tightly.

sub-urban-boy
5th November 2007, 08:49
For motorway driving I've used both the bikes listed to my profile (gilera SP01 knees on the floor 2 stroke light racer and a slightly better handling suzuki gsxr 250 and found that the answer is to ride loose (should feel like an orang-utang , elbows swinging slightly) , if needs be , push yourself back on the seat a bit to stop you leaning on your wrists to support you upper body , thus leaving your hands free to control the machine and perhaps deliver the odd single finger salute to the owners of 8ft wide 4x4 who refuse to move over.( :argh: :mad: )

heyjoe
5th November 2007, 12:21
Many years ago when I was a younger rider now and then I used to get tensed up with my wrists when riding without realising I was doing it. I would not notice until my hands got a sort of numb tingly feeling. The cause might just be something risky happening on the ride (like an idiot in a car doing something stupid that could have put me at risk) or just your mind worrying about things subconsciously. To fix it I just would (when the chance arose) take one hand off the grips and flex the hand open and closed several times and shake it to get the blood flowing again. Then repeat with the other hand when the chance arose. I lost a bit of speed when I did it with the throttle hand so choose a place on the road where that is not going to annoy any other traffic and just 5 - 10 seconds can make a big difference. Or your issue could be your positioning and how you are holding your grips or tenseness. I don't have any knowledge of carpel tunnel, throttle boss's etc so won't comment on those. Just sharing my experience.

Tank
6th November 2007, 14:36
I just wonder if there's any tips to prevent it in the first place.

Fly to Saudi and get caught stealing a loaf of bread - problem solved.:rolleyes:

Other than that I was taught to tap all my fingers on the top of the break leaver every now and then - means that Im not holding the grip, and freshens the blood supply - seems to work well.

Kornholio
6th November 2007, 15:02
could be carpal tunnel syndrome......google is your freind

Been told this by medical proffesionals myself...may need that operation soon myself...




Often when riding, my index and middle finger get pins an needles after awhile

Same too bro


My bet is carpal tunnel syndrome.

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Surely then it would happen to me many other times, not just when riding? Cause that's the only time it's ever happened in my life.

Only times it happened to me too..oh and now at my new job :mad:

Ragingrob
6th November 2007, 19:37
I'm actually starting to think it could be from the vibrations the GN gives out revving that high for a long period of time... Enough of a tingle to make my arms feel funny maybe?

Phil W
9th November 2007, 16:55
Wait till you start getting piles mate. Takes your mind off the aches in any other part of the body. Oh, and if you ride long enough you will get piles.
:sick:

mstriumph
9th November 2007, 16:59
cheerful little fella, ain't he?? <_<

Phil W
9th November 2007, 17:18
Q. Whats good for piles?
A. A pre unit Triumph. Grows the buggers faster than anything else.

zxcvbnm
13th November 2007, 14:56
I used to to get numb hands at motox and driving, it was from work and probably carpal tunnel. Leaving work fixed it:)
I've also got shoulder impingement and it gives me pins/needles but mostly just feels dead (called dead arm) got so bad before the op that I couldn't squeeze toothpaste.

fireball
13th November 2007, 15:08
just relax use your core works best for me

Rose Lee
16th November 2007, 21:43
Pins and Needles, Yep it happens to me often.
Advise given to me
1) learn to relax your grip,
2) Gloves too short in the fingers.
3) It may be the real sporty machine you are riding and you have more weight on your hands
2) You may have Carpel Tunnel in the wrist, this efforts the circulation in your fingers.
Stay Safe Enjoy

croc
16th November 2007, 22:57
yes I get that too. My mate got it bad. Ended up he had carpal tunnell operation and is now much better.

discotex
17th November 2007, 16:20
I don't get it from riding but I get all sorts of problems from typing. Saw these mentioned on another thread and they look like they'd help strengthen the muscles around your wrists and hands. They get good reviews from OOS sufferers, riders and guitar players so I'm planning to give it a go.

http://www.powerballs.co.nz/

Looks like fun too :)

McDuck
17th November 2007, 21:08
I find that just wiggeling fingers fixes it.

hospitalfood
17th November 2007, 21:24
I get it only when taking it easy, when I'm moving fast it never happens as I'm braking/moving more. when putting along it always kicks in after a while.
I do what the other said.....