New bike ZX10R

[kitsune]

Just about to go pick up a new bike wed morning/afternoon , the might zx10r ninja, biggest bike i have ever owned, any advice for looking after it / keeping myself alive on it?. Restrict the "thats to big" comments, throttle works both ways :

[Cajun]

just take it nice and slowly (as gettin to know the bike), and enjoy.

[kiwifruit]

Congrats!
What year?
Welcome to the site :)
PXPLZ

[BarBender]

Ride everyday, enjoy yourself and remember...

Got a black magic woman
Got a black magic woman
I got a black magic woman; got me so blind I cant see
That shes a black magic woman
and shes trying to make a devil out of me...

:niceone:

[skelstar]

Jebus, take it easy and have fun.

[kitsune]

Its the 07 Limited edition, having said that i still like my 250 , have learnt that thing backwards, i hope to have similar skills on my zx10 - after about 12 mths or so, im also learn to ride on waiheke island, figure if u can survive those roads as a biker u can survive pretty much anything

[Meekey_Mouse]

:drool::drool::drool::drool::thud:

Congrats :) take it easy:Playnice::lol:

[codgyoleracer]

Keep your eyes well ahead up the road - Youll be arriving at that point a bit quicker than the 2 fiddy gets there....... (they got good brakes though)

[NinjaNanna]

GPX 250 to a ZX10 - good luck.

Hope its insured even a small drop will cost you big

[kitsune]

Dang straight , also going out for advanced rider training (not on my ninja) some time round feb , when i get time off work, plus i got an ex racer , and current rider of an r1 modifed to give me some schooling on it, how is the traction on a bike like that tho? , do i have to worry about the back spinning alot or is it only if i provoke it via over reve ?

[vifferman]

GPX250... ZX10... :spudwhat:
Same same, I reckon.

[skelstar]

do i have to worry about the back spinning alot or is it only if i provoke it via over reve ?
You sure you've thought this through dude?

[kiwifruit]

give it heaps! just dont slam it closed when she lights up :wari:

[kitsune]

Sure did, very carefully for 3 mths , as well as trying to pick up as much info about the bike/tips as i can to prep for it. Before shifting up i made sure i could do just about anything on my gpx, even went and did a referesher in trail riding. To be honest im kinda freaking a bit about it but i figure that will keep me from doing something stupid like droping from 3rd into second and opening the throttle up - only to end up looking at sky

[kitsune]

What i would really like is tips for cornering aproach speed etc, breaking distance, how the big bikes like to be treated , maintinance etc . thanks guys

[Maha]

To be honest im kinda freaking a bit about it but i figure that will keep me from doing something stupid like droping from 3rd into second and opening the throttle up - only to end up looking at sky

And that will happen...saw one on Sunday that used to be owned buy a TGA chap...and the front 'Does' lift with ease....:cool:

[kiwifruit]

What i would really like is tips for cornering aproach speed etc, breaking distance, how the big bikes like to be treated , maintinance etc . thanks guys

i think you know what to do

go in slower while you are getting used to it
be smooth
dont mod it, ride it instead
if you do mod it do the suspension (ohlins), f00k the performance stuff
fit good tyres (what tyres are on it at the mo?)
don't ride it angry
do trackdays

how old are you?

[kitsune]

Have been on bikes since around 10 , little 50 - 100 dirties n stuff, Tires and breaks stock im thinking pre loading suspension for 100kg

[kiwifruit]

you'll be fine then

i'm glad you didnt say 18 or 20 :)

what tyres has it?

get ohlins ;)

[kitsune]

I think stock tires r dunlops , as soon as i get some cash behind me again i will get the suspension done as u suggested, i dont expect to be pushing it much past 150 or so (about same speed as my 250) untill i get a real feel for the bike, i have been told by my mate with the r1 that my counter steering is pretty good, is this good practice on the bigger bikes? , ps never had a bad ding since i got past 18, afore then i fell off alot , usally trying to power stand lolz , learnt not to do it - gravel on waiheke is quite vicious.

[kitsune]

Hay bro thanks for the vote of confidence :D , will take it easy - the le ninja is one sexy bike , hate to scratch it

[kiwifruit]

I think stock tires r dunlops , as soon as i get some cash behind me again i will get the suspension done as u suggested, i dont expect to be pushing it much past 150 or so (about same speed as my 250) untill i get a real feel for the bike, i have been told by my mate with the r1 that my counter steering is pretty good, is this good practice on the bigger bikes? , ps never had a bad ding since i got past 18, afore then i fell off alot , usally trying to power stand lolz , learnt not to do it - gravel on waiheke is quite vicious.

dunlop whats?
150 is but a sneeze away, in any gear
yes, counter steer, of course


trackdays :yes:
trackdays :yes:

[kitsune]

4 sure bro, to be honest a bike like that is born for the track, my mate wants to take his modified 750gixer up against it, where both pretty much in the same class , 250-bigger bike.

[Qkchk]

I assume its brand spanking new -

If so, the first most IMPORTANT thing to remember is:


Respect the new tyres

Make sure you scrub them in before you try anything fancy.....(treat them like riding on a wet road)

Its amazing how many stories I have heard about people buying a new bike only to drop it outside the shop or within the first 100kms.

[Toaster]

You sure you've thought this through dude?

I'm sitting here thinking the exact same thing skelstar.

I hope he takes extra caution out there. The jump from a sedate little 250 to a 1000 sports bike is no easy jump and certainly one I wouldn't recommend.

[Toaster]

4 sure bro, to be honest a bike like that is born for the track, my mate wants to take his modified 750gixer up against it, where both pretty much in the same class , 250-bigger bike.

The new bike sounds fabulous mate. Be careful, the thou sportsbikes can really bite.... cost me 8 weeks off work and surgery to rebuild my foot after a tank slapper had her wicked way with me.... all because I forgot to engage my brain and had a moment of stupidity on a wet road.

Be careful out there and enjoy many many years of riding.

[Unit]

Talk to Chris (DMNTD), he has owned two, the '06 and '07 limited edition, both from brand new out of the box. Did over 20,000kms on the '06 and heaps of modes on the '07. I ran in the '07 with the standard exhaust before the aftermarket was fitted. By the time we recently sold it (replaced with the KTM Superduke R), a considerable amount of mods had been completed and it was a bundle of energy. As with any new bike, run it in how you want it to perform, but get to know the beast, they are still twitchy compared to say a Honda.
We have heaps of info and experience on running in, general stock performance and good mods etc, looking forward to hearing your feedback and what you think of this fantasitc litre bike.
Im just getting to know my ZX14. Completely different bike, but has the edgy Kawazaki bite to it :whistle:

[discotex]

Its the 07 Limited edition, having said that i still like my 250 , have learnt that thing backwards, i hope to have similar skills on my zx10 - after about 12 mths or so, im also learn to ride on waiheke island, figure if u can survive those roads as a biker u can survive pretty much anything

Holy shit... I say walking or driving on Waiheke is a dangerous enough passtime let alone riding that beast. Would be great if you didn't have to worry about those crazy locals :dodge:

[HungusMaximist]

Just make sure you install one of those big ''FUCK OFF'' air horns to let reckless pedestrians and cars know you're comming...

And seeing you're in Auckland, like me, I wouldn't really recommend riding that big fucker around the city during peak hours.

Have fun and hope to see ya on some rides!

[kitsune]

Well i am crazy so it helps wit my choice of bike, lolz :P not an easy place to ride, u can take a nice easy corner, and BAM without warning u end up wit roadworks / gravel/ twat cager in middle of road taking pics. which taught me to only stomp on the breaks if i have ta, better to go round / plan escape. Saved my butt a couple of times. Not to mention the pot holes which have taught the swerve left/right/left again. Whats the best way to run this beast in , just follow manufacturers specs ? , did that for my gpx250 , which even tho its only a 250 would get up n booggie ater 6,000 - 10,000 (embarresed a 400 on it)

[saul]

Ride your own race:whistle:

[discotex]

Well i am crazy so it helps wit my choice of bike, lolz :P

Haha Kwakka is the only choice if you're a crazy mofo.

Make you you get the scheduled services done on time so you don't void your warranty. There's so many opinions on breaking in bikes. Quick search should bring up heaps of info. If it was mine I'd mix the manufacturer instructions with the "run it in how you plan to ride it" theory.

[kitsune]

true that was thinking going with manufactures specs, (under the rev's thay want) then every onece in a while let it reve up about 1grand, as for service stops, i will for sure, unlike my 250 this bike is a definate keeper, will be well looked after :D

[jrandom]

The only advice I have is stay on the gas.

At some point in the wet etc shit will happen that hasn't happened to you on a two fiddy.

Stay calm and stay on the gas and you'll be fine. Lowsiding doesn't usually hurt much, and it's the worst case outcome if you just stay on the gas.

Don't forget that advice, or you could end up joining me in the "titanium screws for life" club.

:niceone:

Other than that, awesome choice of bike, dude. You'll love it and it will love you long time.

Trackdays trackdays trackdays!

[boomer]

give it heaps! just dont slam it closed when she lights up :wari:


they light up..????!!!!! man those thous sound the biz! * i double chuckled when i read that bro!! nice


You sure you've thought this through dude?

my first thought too Skel*



Ride your own race:whistle:

and remember.. its not a race 'till someone bins!!!



go easy on her mate, the little twist of that right hand will see you in a WHOLE HEAP of pain.. show her LOTS of respect, its NOT a 250!

ENJOY !

[kitsune]

Always have respected /cared for every bike i owned, except for the dirties, however those where not bad bikes, just took the abuse every new rider gives a bike. Anybody here heard anything about that "stomp" stuff ? its meant to help you hold the bike with your legs a bit better by attaching this plastic sticky plastic stuff to the tank/sides. And how about for keeping the finish good whats good stuff whats not ? .

[marioc]

drool drool drool I think i need to wipe my chin :eek5:

[boomer]

Always have respected /cared for every bike i owned, except for the dirties, however those where not bad bikes, just took the abuse every new rider gives a bike. Anybody here heard anything about that "stomp" stuff ? its meant to help you hold the bike with your legs a bit better by attaching this plastic sticky plastic stuff to the tank/sides. And how about for keeping the finish good whats good stuff whats not ? .

when i say respect i mean respect for what that bike is capable of doing when the throttle is turned or has been turned.....and understanding how capable you are of controlling that power.

[kitsune]

I quite like the aftermarket pipes u got nicely done bro :D, is the stock setup okay for learning the bike ? I will get some stomp as it looks good, and makes sense. As for the performance, im leaving that alone for at least 6 - 12mths - im not that insane, however i have got a good idea for my suspension setup now thanks guys, How much for a stomp/olins setup?. Any ides on fuel / oils / chain lubes.

[Gremlin]

how is the traction on a bike like that tho? , do i have to worry about the back spinning alot or is it only if i provoke it via over reve ?
ummm yeah.... :sweatdrop

Ok, I think I know your mindset (had a mate go through something similar recently). Basically, as much you may think you know how the bike handles/accelerates, unless you haven't told us something... you actually don't.

Since you're getting it anyway, all I can say is, do NOT treat it like the 250. Don't twist the throttle, don't try to race things to prove how fast it is... there will be plenty of time for that in the future. It sounds obvious I know... but I'm amazed by the number that try it, just to see. Try to think back to when you learnt how to ride. You took baby steps, and slowly built up the set of skills. The ZX10 will handle completely differently to the gpx, and then you have to factor in the power.

As for your fantastic question (which really should be nominated for quote of the year) it will spin up in the dry/wet, at varying revs and most gears. It will do it at slow speeds, high speeds and anything in between. Its a thousand cc bike, and if it demonstrates it enough... the 600 aren't much slower, unless you're talking 250+ kph. You simply work a lot harder keeping it in shape.

At least you didn't get the 04/05, the 07 is easier to ride. Please be careful, and be happy to over-estimate what it can do. They have dished out lessons to riders with faaar more experience.

[kiwifruit]

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[kiwifruit]

ummm yeah.... :sweatdrop
Should have got the 04/05, the 07 is easier to ride (yawn).

+ 1

[kitsune]

In my defence i have never once jumped on a bike and thought, hay lets see if i can hold the throttle open n see wot happens , well i did once on a 100cc tt , after getting up off the grass and picking up the bike i learnt once and for all never to do that again :D , i think the best advice i have had so far has been form kiwi fruit, take it slow and respect that i will have 750cc more engine and about twice the weight (if not 3 times). Thanks a bunch for the advice guys. Ps i have had a mate do similar to me , however he went for a modified 750gsx is that a more "safe" choice from a 250 or is just that the 1ltr ninja is a tricky bike 2 handle?

[Gremlin]

or is just that the 1ltr ninja is a tricky bike 2 handle?
*sigh* the things people ask :lol:

The point is, its a litre bike. Besides the honda (which is known to be easier to handle), they are still pumping out, what, 150+ rwhp. Your bike is somewhere around 30rwhp I think?

Yes, the ninja is the animal of the group, but yours is tamed a little. I found it heaps easier to ride. The gixxer is the torque monster, the yamahaha is the overpriced pretty boy of the group. Nonetheless, they can all light up (was that mr fruits? lovely :whistle:) the rear wheel in the dry.

The key trap a lot fall into, is they don't know how easy it is to go into a corner with far more speed than their experience can handle. It will lift the front over little bumps and crests, it WILL do 150kph+ in first gear. The front brakes are easily powerful enough to lift the arse of the bike off the ground. Basically, a whole of things are very possible on these sorts of bikes, that the gpx is not capable of. With no experience, it is unknown how you will handle them, when they happen, because usually, it happens real fast, and reactions are required to be almost instinctive (indeed, some things are over before you have much chance to do anything about it).

I'm just trying to give you an appreciation of what is possible, as the learner I sold my 250 to lasted roughly 16 days before he hit an oncoming vehicle when he ran wide out of a corner. There is also plenty of time to enjoy the steps if you wish, you don't have to own a thou now... Once you've had one, and ridden it hard... what do you move to?

[kitsune]

I admit its a bit crazy , however i saw the le ninja and i thought i gotta have that , i cant put logic 2 it i just love the look the sound of the bike - for the first few mths ill just keep to the speed limit , part of idea of learning on waiheke is there is nowhere you could conceivable open a bike like that up, unless your ether good , crazy or crazy good :D. i intend to take her down to the local supermarket after it closes some time soonish , and get a bit of a feel for her, Till then ill keep to the posted limit here (50kph)

[Gremlin]

Till then ill keep to the posted limit here (50kph)
boy... you really got no idea mate... :lol: :killingme

Lets just say once you climb aboard, that rule has about 99.999% chance of going out the window. Least the 07 stock is a little more docile around town, but its still a bike that wants to be ridden hard through the country.

Least waiheke does have a few 80 zones, iirc...

[Kendog]

I am curious, what bikes over 250cc did you ride to see what you liked?

There are a number of engine designs, ride positions etc that make choosing a bike more than about the looks, but about what makes you happy when you ride.

[Kflasher]

Just about to go pick up a new bike wed morning/afternoon , the might zx10r ninja, biggest bike i have ever owned, any advice for looking after it / keeping myself alive on it?. Restrict the "thats to big" comments, throttle works both ways :

Dude nice one, easy to ride bike heaps of everything where you need it.
Taking your time is the key here, you will be rewarded for it. :2thumbsup

[cowboyz]

What i would really like is tips for cornering aproach speed etc, breaking distance, how the big bikes like to be treated , maintinance etc . thanks guys


I think stock tires r dunlops , as soon as i get some cash behind me again i will get the suspension done as u suggested, i dont expect to be pushing it much past 150 or so (about same speed as my 250) untill i get a real feel for the bike, i have been told by my mate with the r1 that my counter steering is pretty good, is this good practice on the bigger bikes? , ps never had a bad ding since i got past 18, afore then i fell off alot , usally trying to power stand lolz , learnt not to do it - gravel on waiheke is quite vicious.
at least you have some experience.


take it slow and respect that i will have 750cc more engine and about twice the weight (if not 3 times). Thanks a bunch for the advice guys. Ps i have had a mate do similar to me , however he went for a modified 750gsx is that a more "safe" choice from a 250 or is just that the 1ltr ninja is a tricky bike 2 handle?
actually you will have another 750cc about 3 or 4 times the horsepower and about half the weight. The 10R weigh nothing and they weigh even less when they are moving.


Dude nice one, easy to ride bike heaps of everything where you need it.
Taking your time is the key here, you will be rewarded for it. :2thumbsup

The main point which you simply will not appreciate till you get on the bike and start riding it is there is no way you are going to be tootling round at 50k. The 10R does not do tootle. You might say you will take it easy but easy on a 10R is about 140km/hr. You wont know what speed you are doing without looking at the speedo. Perception will be all up the fuck. You will hit corners alot quicker than you think you are hitting them. Apart from that it depends how quickly you can learn. Oh yeah, interesting experience when you get frustrated with traffic, drop down a couple of gear and pin the throttle to pass some twat doing 70 and find yourself looking at the sky.

In saying all that. Best of luck with the new bike. They are awesome. Best of luck with the licence too.

[NZsarge]

Its the 07 Limited edition, having said that i still like my 250 , have learnt that thing backwards, i hope to have similar skills on my zx10 - after about 12 mths or so, im also learn to ride on waiheke island, figure if u can survive those roads as a biker u can survive pretty much anything

Oh you lucky buggar! Love that limited edition paint job, looks hot!, congrats.

[Coyote]

Have you ridden anything bigger than a 250 before? Make sure you get full insurance :whistle:

Don't die, cause then I can use you as an example and get a 1000 myself

[Unit]

We want pic's as well.
Running in, the first 1,000ks.
Dont hold it on a constant speed, rev, keep the needles moving. It will take about 90kms to get the brakes and clutch working properly, and to scrub the tyres in. Dont be afraid to wind it out to 8-9,000rpm from around 400kms but do it steadily and gently. You will get to forth gear, be well over ANY posted speed limit and realise to some small extent what you are riding. I doubt you will be willing to work to these revs in 5th or 6th gear.:pinch:
We use Bel Ray Super Clean Chain Lube and do our chain and sprocket every 1,000ks or so. Its more of a wax, and will ensure the longevity of your chain and sprocket. Also check tyre pressure every 1,000 to 1,500kms or before a long journey. This will also assist in lengthening the life of your tyre.
Your roads sound like Norfland mate! Initially Chris only got around 1,800 to 2,300km out of every rear tyre, hence our passion for tyre prices! :rolleyes: This was due to knowing our roads well, rougher road surfaces (we dont have pot holes up there we have hungi pits) and agressively using the throttle. Chris would leave black lines from wheel spinning into the corners as well as out of the corners :eek:
The bike will be tamer with the original pipes and front sprocket. Break earlier into corners and set yourself up with the right gear and so you are positive holding (rather than negative holding) the power on as you enter and go through the corner excelerating out the other side. Get your lines right, and the best way to learn hyper sports bikes lines in to follow another litre bike, the coro loop would be perfect.
The Dunlop Qualifiers (I think thats what they come out with) are pretty good but Im not sure how many Kms you will get out of them, depends on how you will ride it.
Get your shop to set up your suspension for your weight and type of riding you will be doing (not that there is a lot of choice, theres fast, faster, fastest and insane to choose from).
The motor will really start to loosen up after your 6,000km service, by then you should also be starting to understand the bikes behaviour.
You will also find when you are sports bike riding your body will need to move around a fair bit.
There are some really good wax products out there today and I do recommend getting several layers on ASAP, the paint quality (more so with the '06) was not the best on ours and also because your acceleration is extraordinary, you will end up coming up behind traffic more frequently, so there will be a lot more stone throwing at the front of your bike. We have put a clear film over the front of the 14 this time, worth the expense.
Hope this helps. Its painfully obvious everyone is amazed to see someone go from a 250 to this particular litre bike (given its rep for not being the tamest of the bunch). I have to agree, you will not pootle at 50kms on this bike, you would never use any other gear than 1st if you try!
Keep us updated, you are embarking on an awesome journey with this bike

[Freakshow]

Who else reading this is feeling there gut moving. That is an interesting step up from a 250.

Currently I ride a 50cc scooter across town to work and the problem is I should really replace the brakes and throtle with on off switches as that is all I do when I ride the scooter. it is all on or all off. This has caused a few problems when I get back on the 636 as I have left the drive way and had the back wheel next to me once or twice because I was still in scooter mode.

Where I am going is this watch out for you instinctive reactions that you have sitting in the back of your head as step from 250 to 1000 means these reactions are going to have very different results.

Good luck

[NinjaNanna]

Its posts like this that make KB AWESOME - thanks Unit

Cheers

Ninja Nanna



....edited
Running in, the first 1,000ks.
Dont hold it on a constant speed, rev, keep the needles moving. It will take about 90kms to get the brakes and clutch working properly, and to scrub the tyres in. Dont be afraid to wind it out to 8-9,000rpm from around 400kms but do it steadily and gently. ....
We use Bel Ray Super Clean Chain Lube and will ensure the longevity of your chain and sprocket.

check tyre pressure every 1,000 to 1,500kms or before a long journey. This will also assist in lengthening the life of your tyre.

Break earlier into corners and set yourself up with the right gear and so you are positive holding (rather than negative holding) the power on as you enter and go through the corner excelerating out the other side. Get your lines right, and the best way to learn hyper sports bikes lines in to follow another litre bike, the coro loop would be perfect.

Get your shop to set up your suspension for your weight and type of riding you will be doing (not that there is a lot of choice, theres fast, faster, fastest and insane to choose from).
The motor will really start to loosen up after your 6,000km service

You will also find when you are sports bike riding your body will need to move around a fair bit.
There are some really good wax products out there today and I do recommend getting several layers on ASAP, We have put a clear film over the front of the 14 this time, worth the expense.

Its painfully obvious everyone is amazed to see someone go from a 250 to this particular litre bike (given its rep for not being the tamest of the bunch). I have to agree, you will not pootle at 50kms on this bike, you would never use any other gear than 1st if you try!
Keep us updated, you are embarking on an awesome journey with this bike

[discotex]

The only advice I have is stay on the gas.

At some point in the wet etc shit will happen that hasn't happened to you on a two fiddy.

Stay calm and stay on the gas and you'll be fine. Lowsiding doesn't usually hurt much, and it's the worst case outcome if you just stay on the gas.


Happens to me on my 250 :devil2:... Not in the dry mind you.

Stay on the gas has saved my arse from high-siding a few times now. Just hope it's ingrained enough into my subconscious for when I upgrade (not to a litrebike tho :eek:)

[kitsune]

Thanks for that man , i was actually considering going down an empty parking lot one night to get a feel for stopping distance's , at what point will the bike try to do certain things etc, i might see if my mate with the r1 minds taking me for a nana tour so he can show me a bit better what to expect etc. anyhow heading to the shop now should have some pics up later :D

[knee_scraper]

Grats on your new bike Kitsune.

I'm in a similar situation, so hope you don't mind me sharing my experience!

I have about two years riding experience (probably less than you) and I bought an R1 last week. I went from a GN250 to a FZR250R to a '99 ZXR7 to an '02 R1 all in the space of a short time. I'm 23 and I got my full license about a month ago. After having insurance with State for 8 years on over ten different vehicles with no claims they told me to jump in a lake when I requested insurance for my R1. Anyway, side tracking here.

Sorry I can't offer you advice on mods, oil, maintenance or anything like that. I just noticed a few people who replied to your post are weary of your new purchase, given your experience on smaller bikes etc.

I had everyone give me similar messages, especially my family, I listened and it helped me.

Obviously your zx10r has loads of power and weighs in at next to nothing. No one buys a bike like that to be a nana all the time. My little piece of inexperienced advice is: Give it loads of respect and take your time to get used to it. The moment you push it beyond your confidence just increases that chance of a nasty and its real easy to do, espeically when some dude on the road pisses you off, reminding you your riding a monster and you could pass him in one second... or having the opportunity to open her up on a long stretch of road or pushing it too much on the corners... Save it for the track, it gives you something to look forward to in a legal and safer environment.

Anyway, that's all obvious stuff. I just hope your mind is prepared for the situations you will come across.

On my R1 I feel there is a whole other side to the bike that I'm never going to know until I take it to the track. For now its fun just commuting to work and waving back at those who wave at me.

Hope you enjoy it aye. Its special to be able to ride a piece of engineering brilliance like that.

[I_R_SQUID]

The 10 is pretty easy to ride and jump on to, it moves around like a 250 apart from pushing it up hills or in very very tight under 40k stuff depending on setup.

Brakes are pretty average but will be phenomenal for what you're used to.
Long 1st gear means a lot of clutch riding an 13-15kmh at stock idle/gearing with the clutch in and no gas. Don't let that get away from you in your first few rides.

Oil: JSG posted up a great thread about oil types for use in bikes.
http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/Oils1.html

I use motul 5100 as it's one of the best you can buy for it and you do notice gearbox differences with oil types, especially older bikes.

You will find yourself going into corners faster etc etc they make you seem like you are not going very fast through twisties, or more that you are not pushing it..

Lines:
Bigger bikes mean bigger power. Where would it's main advantage be (esp the 10r with it's amazing engine/grunt?) on a straight. So quite a few racers tend to turn into the corner sharper and more early with a longer 'straight' exit to get the power down. For you starting off though I'd just recommend you ride the bike slowly and cautiously for a month or two, 2nd month is when you usually start doing stupid shit - try not to...
They power slide nicely also if you crack them after apexing the corner. Wait a while before doing that also :)
You will appear to counter steer more on bigger bikes for some reason (in my experience anyway) or it feels more. I find steering damper adjustment can make a big difference to this so have a play with it (you have a stock 'ohlins' branded mass produced external to ohlins proper factory damper...).
Shift weight on your pegs and countersteer the bike move your body etc, see what works best for you as everyone has a different style.
If you are buying it from mt eden don't let bungie set it up for you he sets waaaay too hard for general use.
The 06/07 is pretty stable as a bike as long as you don't set it up for crazy turn in (like I set all my bikes) it then can get a little twitchy but fine tune her and she'll turn in like mad and ride on rails.
Braking points - you will be going 2x the speed so set them much further back, in saying that they are much better at braking and handling, but always keep in mind you will be going faster than you think especially when you first get the bike.
Cold tyres she will spin up around 8k depending on mods and tyres and road surface. In the wet it'll spin at 250+ if your tyres are rooted enough.
If she does spin up it does have the tendancy to dance side to side, slowly roll it back off or ride it out which is the fun option (DONT CHOP IT) and she will be sweeeet as can be :)
Don't pull wheelies everywhere on them, even putting em down reasonably soft can long term cause damage to head bearings, front shocks and frame. And can cause you to write them off when you fuck one up.... cough cough.

Tyres to run:
Dunlop qualifiers they come with are utter rubbish, they can slide nicely that's about it get rid of them asap, shit in the wet too. I run Diablo corsas at the moment they are lovely, stradas do well for commuting on them, I'll try the 2CT or contis next when I can afford to.

mods:
Suspension first! Ohlins is the way.. makes it a dream to ride. Firm and supple like a nice woman.. mmmm!
Cheapy - chuck a zx6r (05 and up from memory) master cylinder on. It improves brake 'feel' and grab zone quite nicely
For even better braking maybe too much considering how snappy they are on the 14r is to chuck zx14r callipers onto the 10r....

supercharger kits, turbo kits etc are all avail for that bike. I'd wait a long time before doing that though :)
Other mods:

Cheap and easy one is 2ndary throttle butterflies, remove them (unscrew with a screw driver) and you've got yourself some low down grunt (stops bogging under 6k). In the wet it will be more of a handful so be very careful. You may need a power commander to correct lean fueling from that mod, not all bikes need that though. Basically take tank off, airbox then they'll be sitting there. Google it for more info.

Sprockets as per DMNTD: 1 tooth on front or 2 on the rear etc, makes it more wheelie prone. As a stock bike it doesn't wheelie too much on a flat off the throttle in 1st/2nd but add a bump in and it'll come in at some rather more 'fun' speeds.
Kawasaki race cams are cheap for some good power and makes the bike much more 'rideable' than stock IMO, replace the usual valve train parts (collets etc) for reliability and also do both cams for a reliable daily ride.
Dyno blockoff plates for Co2 emissions, makes things easier when you need to get her tuned (even for a simple exhaust).
Exhaust take your pick they all make more sound or a tad more power.. go whatever looks best.
Power commander is a must really when you do much more than exhaust or even just a full exhaust system. depends on setup.
Head gasket can be thinned out to increase compression, tip: don't increase compression too much if you want a daily ride with almost the same reliability as stock engine, you wouldn't run 91 fuel either (shouldn't really anyway but you usually get away with it fine on stock bikes).

Race pistons if you really want to spend some money, as with head port/polish/oversize blueprinting engine etc etc, those things get to be big money for little gain after gaskets/cams etc.

Anyway, enjoy your bike!

[kitsune]

Fuck me thats a fucking monster, soon as i rolled it off the boat (was being laughed at by some of the crew, who happen to be bikers) cause i stalled it getting used to where the power / cluctch mix would kick in, and clutch drove it down the ramp. then gave it a little twist and i was at 40 k in a second , nothing scary , i just didnt even notice till i looked down was like woah mumma , then on the ride home gave her a little blip in second and the bike went 50kph - 90kph before i could even blink. Oh and since when does gravity come from behind you ? lolz, damn nice machine and the suspension is , well compared to what im used to excellent, the roads are just as rough but i dont have to worrie if my tires have momentarily lost contact with the road. havent even got her over 100kph yet, breaking her in as per manufacutres specs (under 4,000 till 600k's then only up to 6,000 till 1,000). as for respecting the bike, very much respect, i can tell if i dont handle her correctly, and learn what the fuck it is im doing im gonna be another statistic. Ill keep you guys posted as i adjust to the new machine :D

[kitsune]

Just took the beast out again, less scary more fun this time, my ride lines r messed up and im taking most corners at round 50kph , if that but at least im getting a good feel for the bike , it doesnt feel heavy even tho its much heavier then the last bike. Still taking it hell easy for at least a mth or so , specially till i can get her in for her first service

[Out-law]

250 to 1000 thats pretty sweet :D

Iv got a GSX250 and ZX11 :D but im still on learners LOL :D love to ride both of them :)

[Cr1MiNaL]

Are those baby chicken strpis I see on DMNTD's KTM? O.o

[Gremlin]

Till then ill keep to the posted limit here (50kph)


Lets just say once you climb aboard, that rule has about 99.999% chance of going out the window.


then on the ride home gave her a little blip in second and the bike went 50kph - 90kph before i could even blink.
do I win a prize? :clap:

[kitsune]

I was in an 80kph zone when i did that bro so no u dont, lolz cept the bike does do 50kph in second wit virt no throttle, even tho im only taking it up to 4 - 5 grand i can still feel that insane power just waiting to be let loose. I may also marry the bike its so forking sweet :D lolz Bout to head to work roads r a bit wet will take it ultra easy, been warned the stock tires are abit shite in wet.

[Unit]

Are those baby chicken strpis I see on DMNTD's KTM? O.o
Well considering the bike had all of 15kms on the clock tops, I'd say the strips are allowed. You should see the poor rear tyre now after 1,600kms :whistle:

[kiwifruit]

Are those baby chicken strpis I see on DMNTD's KTM? O.o

yeah,
you should offer to scrub them off for him :yes:

[Cr1MiNaL]

yeah,
you should offer to scrub them off for him :yes:

what a positively brilliant idea! I wonder what he would say to that.:sweatdrop

[boomer]

yeah,
you should offer to scrub them off for him :yes:

oh you're a one, you are!! be away with yourself

[Cr1MiNaL]

yeah,
you should offer to scrub them off for him :yes:

With what sandpaper? :eek:

[discotex]

I was in an 80kph zone when i did that bro so no u dont, lolz cept the bike does do 50kph in second wit virt no throttle, even tho im only taking it up to 4 - 5 grand i can still feel that insane power just waiting to be let loose. I may also marry the bike its so forking sweet :D lolz Bout to head to work roads r a bit wet will take it ultra easy, been warned the stock tires are abit shite in wet.

Just in case you missed it both times it was posted I highly recommend you watch this mate. Amazing how quick a thou can bite yo ass even at low RPM.

Q9zNUPDmnz4

[vifferman]

Just in case you missed it both times it was posted I highly recommend you watch this mate. Amazing how quick a thou can bite yo ass even at low RPM.

I didn't like that. :no:

[discotex]

I didn't like that. :no:

Me neither. I cringe whenever I see a rider go down. Do my best to learn from their mistakes tho and thought this one particularly relevant.

[jrandom]

... thought this one particularly relevant.

Absolutely. Unscrubbed tyres, rider used to a bike where they can wiggle the throttle around for sound effects with very little happening at the rear wheel, etc.

That video is also a good argument for not buying a 1000cc superbike and then fitting commuting tyres to it. Power requires traction. If you can't afford to run Diablos/PPs/RaceAttacks etc, don't buy a 150hp bike.

[Gremlin]

Power requires traction. If you can't afford to run Diablos/PPs/RaceAttacks etc, don't buy a 150hp bike.
Just one caveat here... it depends where and how you are riding the bike.

A lot think they should buy the stickiest tread available, and get raceattacks/whatever... If you don't ride fast enough to get the required heat into them, they will bite your arse faster than a sport compound that is at the correct temperature.

Sure, soft tyres are more sticky than sport, but only if they are at the correct temp, which is usually high, as they are designed for track/v fast road use.

[jrandom]

Just one caveat here... it depends where and how you are riding the bike.

Mmm, very true.

Personally I would consider it more cost-effective to have a GN250 or similar for commuting than to burn consumables on a literbike doing 200km/week in traffic. Sprotbikes are toys, end of story. If you're not riding in a way that gets heat into sticky tyres, why bother with such a bike?

[discotex]

A lot think they should buy the stickiest tread available, and get raceattacks/whatever... If you don't ride fast enough to get the required heat into them, they will bite your arse faster than a sport compound that is at the correct temperature.

When I got new tyres for my ZXR I started off thinking I should PPs or something else mega sticky until I read that same advice.

My Road Riders are more than up to the power I have on tap and get up to temp nice and quick in >50km/h riding. They're good in the wet too.

[knee_scraper]

I have been watching that video over and over... It scares me because it sounds like such little power is being used on take off.

Apart from slowing down, what could he have done to prevent that? Hold on the throttle? I will be thinking twice next time I take off on my R1! It just seemed too simple.

[MidnightMike]

Sounded like it was that tiny blip off the throttle (hardly noticeable), and that small lean angle that did it.

That video just makes me cringe. :(

[kitsune]

Getting a bit of a feel for the bike now, still only done 100kph so far, went for a ride out the bottom end which is a very scary set of roads , i could carve them up on the 250 , just to give my self then and now points checking my lines etc. The advice to use the gas to keep u at speed rather then breaks/gas/breaks thing has been nice, had 2 twat cagers pull out but i saw em a mile off and was all ready backing off, by the time they had finished there idiotic maneuver it was of 0 concern for me. And the other thing was a guy tail gating me at 80k (yes in the 80k zone gremlin lolz) i just let him though , lets face it i "know" my bike could rape his shitter , but what would it prove if i did it? Nothing in my books. The power on tap is unreal,
I am however getting the feel for the bike u know the one where u feel like the bike needs you to be at your best, that your part of the machine.
My focus has never been sharper , my whole mind is on nothing but the bike the road and the best way to get them to work together, on the 250 i was often "playing", This bike my friends is not play its alot of fun but it feels like an art form - where if you work hard at it you will be rewarded.

[kitsune]

Not saying i am some expert or something but shouldn't that guy in the vid have practiced steady slow use of the gas? Better to stall the bike and look like a bit of a dick then do that and drop the bike and look like a total dick. Slow n steady may not win the race, but better to not win then to bin.

[boomer]

classic.. unscrubbed tyres, straight into a lean.. voila.

and that 10r aint ya mate.. it WILL try and KILL you...

[discotex]

classic.. unscrubbed tyres, straight into a lean.. voila.

Combined with chopping the gas.... You hear the gas go off just before it flicks back. Wonder if he'd have saved it had he ridden it out.

[jrandom]

Wonder if he'd have saved it had he ridden it out.

Of course he would have.

What did I say? (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1250007&postcount=34) Huh? What did I say?

Yeah, you know it.

Stay on the muthafuckin gas, stomp a boot down, it's all good.

[kitsune]

I didn't think of the New tires, was just thinking from my own experience, I mean why jump on a brand new bike and try n show off? a lot of you experienced bikers would be fine doing that i guess. couldn't help but think slow n steady wins the race :D
On a side note, is it normal to get tired fairly quick on the bigger bikes ? i just notice after i jump off n settle in for the night i feel wiped out.

[Gremlin]

Apart from slowing down, what could he have done to prevent that? Hold on the throttle? I will be thinking twice next time I take off on my R1! It just seemed too simple.
Hard to say... it depends (and most is instinct).

You could keep the gas on, and it will save some, but you only need that tyre to grip at the wrong time (by keeping the gas on, you're only delaying the tyre gripping - ie, until you're lined up, so you won't get flicked off) and you will still be flicked off.

If you cut the gas early enough (but you need to be able to detect the slide early) you can also be ok... Its a grey area, with different things you can do.


On a side note, is it normal to get tired fairly quick on the bigger bikes ? i just notice after i jump off n settle in for the night i feel wiped out.
You are probably quite tense on the bike, and not nearly as relaxed as you were on the gpx. You will be probably concentrating a lot more (as you would have to, on any big bike), and all this work by your brain is tiring you out. Be aware of it, coz as boomer said... the bike isn't exactly your friend. If you're tired, and make a mistake, its not the sort of bike to forgive you, and will more likely punish you.

[kitsune]

Yea i have to mentally tell my self to let go of the bars a bit , i know im gripping to hard , and coupled with that im still adjusting to the clutch breaks n stuff, and on watching each and every corner like a hawk, being the place it is where i ride a new pothole can be there over night so i gotta try n be ready for anything , hence the ride out the bottom end today - i know the bike can handle just about anything but im just not ready to push it , doubt i will for a very long time.

[jrandom]

Yea i have to mentally tell my self to let go of the bars a bit , i know im gripping to hard

Keep your weight mostly on the pegs. Use your core muscles to support your torso. If this is too hard, do situps and hanging leg raises every morning until it's not.

There should be very little, if any, weight supported through your wrists. Just lightly caress the grips. Speak softly to the bike through your body.

:love:

[kitsune]

Mentally i know that , both u and kiwifruit have suggested the same, its just myself thats got the wrong position, adjusting it as i ride to whats easiest, The ride to work this morning was alot smoother, the vidio of that gsxer was in the back of my mind so i made sure i did a nice slow steady move off, specially round the corners with the heavy gravle patches. as for situps , yup already started, gotta build up my endurance for longer rides, while its better balanced then my 250 , its alot more bike to move around.

[Unit]

Keep your weight mostly on the pegs. Use your core muscles to support your torso. If this is too hard, do situps and hanging leg raises every morning until it's not.

There should be very little, if any, weight supported through your wrists. Just lightly caress the grips. Speak softly to the bike through your body.

:love:
What? Sit ups? pffff :Pokey: Just go ride the bloody thing (all good humour intended :msn-wink:) If this old 42yr female can push the ZX14 around for over 400kms at a stretch on the backbone of beer, good cheeses and lack of sleep, :apint:then you young buggars shouldnt have to do sit ups to ride ya bikes!!:baby:
And as with all this caressing and softly speaking stuff, DONT THINK SO MUCH, just ride :shit::eek::niceone:

[jrandom]

What? Sit ups? pffff :Pokey: Just go ride the bloody thing (all good humour intended :msn-wink:) If this old 42yr female can push the ZX14 around for over 400kms at a stretch on the backbone of beer, good cheeses and lack of sleep, :apint:then you young buggars shouldnt have to do sit ups to ride ya bikes!!:baby:

400km? Barely a warmup, grandma. ;)

[Unit]

400km? Barely a warmup, grandma. ;)
Wow back up buddy no grandma bit involved just yet, (my kids are scared genetic reproduction skipped them but will pick up their mothers traits in their kids :buggerd:)
Seriously. Its good to analysis your riding, but dont forget to just get out and ride ride ride. I do about 25,000 - 28,000 kms a year. The only reason I can ride as well as I do these days is because of the ks Ive constantly ridden in the past 2 1/2 years, the variety of bikes, the vast difference in roads and types of riding outings (travelling with luggage, sports bike hunting of tight stuff, pillions on board, winter, summer, night or day, rain or shine). I think Waiheke Island is going to get very small very quickly. Personally, the North Island is getting very small as well.

[jrandom]

... the North Island is getting very small as well.

I know what you mean.

Aren't motorcycles just, on the whole, pretty much scrumptiously awesome-licious?

:love:

[Unit]

I know what you mean.

Aren't motorcycles just, on the whole, pretty much scrumptiously awesome-licious?

:love:
No thats DMNTD :whistle:

[Grahameeboy]

No thats DMNTD :whistle:

Do you have to put him on a lolly stick or is the lead still doing the job??

[kitsune]

Yup 2 small now i want more road lolz , but still a good place for a noob to break in a big bike, lots of varity of roads , surface, and on weekends wankers in pajaroes to dodge do wish it wud change to a jetski and i cud just bring it wherever i wants

[boomer]

have you not killed ya self yet... ???!! you must ride like a pussy

[kitsune]

U guys cant make ur mind up half u want to see me not crash the other half call me pussy for taking it easy :P to the lot of ya im riding my own race. Dont change the fact i got a LE zx10r n u dont :P. For the guys wit good advice i have my gratitude, thanks guys helping me survive out there

[kitsune]

Lolz dont take me too serially bro, but i do mean it thanks to all you guys for the advice, have been on the forums alot the survival guide should be essintal reading for anyone on a bike, specially the tank slapper one. Has anyone thought of gathering the combined knowledge of whats on tap and putting it into a book prehaps?, im sure with the number of experianced riders here it would be quite a good informative read. anyhow thats my 2 cents.

[Kendog]

Pictures, do you have pictures of your new ride yet?

[kitsune]

Im going to give her a new coat of wax and a detail, then im gonna get some shots of the bike plus the bike in amungst some of the best scenery you can get.

[skelstar]

... plus the bike in amungst some of the best scenery you can get.
Topless chicks?

Aaaallllright!
<img src="http://www.hollywoodstandups.com/images/quagmire.jpg" width="300">

[Unit]

Curious which shop you bought it from, got any feed back on the service, assistance, after sale follow up etc?:rolleyes:

[kitsune]

Red baron , i have seen some guys post negitive things about them but they do good by me, traded my gpx250 got 4k on it, only paid 5,500 or there abouts (got free helemet when i brought it) and the guys gave me some advice for riding it and 10$ off labour when they work on it, free fitting for tires and same day service for the bike. And about 400 $ off my new armor/helemet. BTW that bike is so forking sweet , "gremlin wins the your going to speed on that thing prize" - its a struggle to keep the from going over 50kph, have givin the bike a bit of gas , goes so easy up to 120 - 140. My gpx was struggling to hold that speed. cant wait till i get first service done, then its fun time :D :innocent:

[Gremlin]

...goes so easy up to 120 - 140. ...
What a surprise eh...

You better let us know where this 140kph speed zone is :whistle:

[kiwifruit]

goes so easy up to 120 - 140

NAUGHTY NAUGHTY!!

1. At the rise of the hand by Policeman, stop rapidly.
Do not pass him by or otherwise disrespect him.

2. When a passenger of the foot, hooves in sight, tootel the horn
trumpet melodiously at first. If he still obstacles your passage,
tootel him with vigor and express by word of mouth, warning Hi, Hi.

3. Beware of the wandering horse that he shall not take
fright as you pass him. Do not explode the exhaust box at him.
Go soothingly by.

4. Give big space to the festive dog that makes sport
in roadway. Avoid entanglement of dog with wheel spokes.

5. Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the
skid demon! Press the brake foot as you roll around
the corners, and save the collapse and tie up.

[boomer]

NAUGHTY NAUGHTY!!

1. At the rise of the hand by Policeman, stop rapidly.
Do not pass him by or otherwise disrespect him.

2. When a passenger of the foot, hooves in sight, tootel the horn
trumpet melodiously at first. If he still obstacles your passage,
tootel him with vigor and express by word of mouth, warning Hi, Hi.

3. Beware of the wandering horse that he shall not take
fright as you pass him. Do not explode the exhaust box at him.
Go soothingly by.

4. Give big space to the festive dog that makes sport
in roadway. Avoid entanglement of dog with wheel spokes.

5. Go soothingly on the grease mud, as there lurks the
skid demon! Press the brake foot as you roll around
the corners, and save the collapse and tie up.

i hate it when people explode there exhaust box at me.

Nice KF

[kitsune]

Its wherever u make it , lolz couldnt help it was in third wanted to actually get up to forth for a change w/o going over my manufacture imposed rev limit, kicked it up to forth = bam 140 at 4500 revs. And a smile for africa, in my defence tho i was doing faster on my 250 however that was almost red lining it on my gpx.

[discotex]

Red baron , i have seen some guys post negitive things about them but they do good by me, traded my gpx250 got 4k on it

Holy shit! You got $4k as a trade on a GPX? Maybe I will get $5k for my ZXR after all.

[kitsune]

Good luck wit that, hope u get the price you want. Even i was surprised by the price i got was expecting something in the 3k range due to the 08 250 ninja just around the corner, very nice 250 as well that one. Not that i ever had a complaint about my gpx it was a very good bike to learn the basics of riding sport bikes on. I also brought my gpx @ red baron , so im assuming part of the price was due to that and the fact i was getting a 20,000$ bike off them at the same time :D. Happy riding dude.

[discotex]

Good luck wit that, hope u get the price you want. Even i was surprised by the price i got was expecting something in the 3k range due to the 08 250 ninja just around the corner, very nice 250 as well that one. Not that i ever had a complaint about my gpx it was a very good bike to learn the basics of riding sport bikes on. I also brought my gpx @ red baron , so im assuming part of the price was due to that and the fact i was getting a 20,000$ bike off them at the same time :D. Happy riding dude.

Hahah yeah offering to walk away with a $20k bike is always going to help. My budget is $11-12k (maybe more if the deal is right) so will be interesting to see how keen the dealers are to shift the '07 stock before the '08 lands.

[kitsune]

ya i was lucky wit my LE , since its coming to end of year i got it for same price as the stock zx10r , (maybe 500$ diff maybe?) And the gears i got was good, i say to anyone looking to do a big step like i did 250-1000, don't skimp on armor.
for your 10-12 k u shud be able to pick up a nice gsx or ninja second hand for that, my mate got a 750 gsxr wit titanium exhaust for about that.

[RC1]

is it the one in your profile?? looks like this one ??

[kitsune]

Yup thats the one man , nice work on the after markets to :D Although i do like the pipes going under the seat like thay do on the stock model. no real reason cept i like to make anyone following the bike in traffice to suck my 91 exhust lolz

[discotex]

for your 10-12 k u shud be able to pick up a nice gsx or ninja second hand for that, my mate got a 750 gsxr wit titanium exhaust for about that.

Yeah I'm not far off a new one either. $13995 is the RRP for a k7 GSX-R600 so a good trade might bring it into range. The SV thou is RRP $12500 I think so that's a possible too.

With the prices of '07 models dropped it's funny to see people asking more for '05 versions of the same bike :clap:

I'm just looking forward to shopping around and testing some bikes!

[kitsune]

Those are very respectable, Anyone who's interested me and my mate wit the 750 are looking at doing a nana run down to the lake round November / end of November, Be good to get my zx out on the main. Anyone notice the number of small dicked boy racers that try and go the biger bikes? i still let them pass as i dont want to risk damaging my motor, only taken it up to 6grand and that was briefly the other day when i did 140, not done that again , kept ti to round 80k or so. As i said before bro don't skimp on armor , i was just jacket + helm for the 250 , but i got full kit for the 1000.

[discotex]

As i said before bro don't skimp on armor , i was just jacket + helm for the 250 , but i got full kit for the 1000.

I already do "all of the gear most of the time/most of the gear all the time" as even a 250 can kill quite easily. I ride every day in Auckland traffic as well as out and about for longer rides on the weekend so have plenty of opportunity to injure myself with those 40hp.

Open road or bad weather and I'm in in full helmet, jacket, gloves, pants, boots.

Commuting in the dry I lose the pants and wear kevlar jeans for convenience but I never feel as safe (and take it easier as a result).

Just need to add some leathers for track day fun now.

[kitsune]

Nice to hear it, i have that argument with a lot of newbie bikers personally i learn t from dirties at low speed that falling off hurt, so always strapped up for the road bikes. 1 of my mates took falling off and getting some road rash to learn but did. The other note i will make is get a shoei helemet ,they are really good man.

[Unit]

Didnt post these pics up earlier as I didnt want to steel your thunder on your own thread, but thought I should share in the end.
How many kms you done now? Dont be afraid to give it some and work that motor a bit, you could end up with a sluggish bike if you are too tame with it.
Enjoy the pics

[MVnut]

Yeah, wot he said up and down the box, up and down the revs, up and down hills. You're obviously not used to this sort of power so don't be a dork and go too fast, but run it in correctly, the bike deserves it:bash:

[kitsune]

Respect 2 the max nice bike :D Ya i am giving the bike a bit of gas now im getting used to her, i back it off a bit when i feel the nose start to lift, heard its bad for the zx's to power stand, Been slack 2day, crap weather wit no where to go so just washed + detailed the bike. Soon as i crack the 800 k mark its show time, my mate has a mitsie 3ltr , wants to run support for us if we do a long distance jaunt, (his gf wont let him get a bike).

[Coyote]

Personally I would consider it more cost-effective to have a GN250 or similar for commuting than to burn consumables on a literbike doing 200km/week in traffic. Sprotbikes are toys, end of story. If you're not riding in a way that gets heat into sticky tyres, why bother with such a bike?
Only took 5 months to burn through the rear on a 400 (roughly 4000kms), it's got a nice commuting flat spot now. Front is almost perfect (goes to show I'm being a bit hard on the throttle). So now I'm thinking instead of paying $300 for a new rear now, maybe I'll buy a moped/scooter and buy the tyre later (VFR will be off the road for a bit sadly, stupid afterschool job wages).

Soon as I got my first go on a 1000, I was straight to 140 on the back wheel. It was alright, didn't feel that much faster than a 600 though since you didn't get to wind up the engine in the same amount of space

coz as boomer said... the bike isn't exactly your friend.
I wish I got a 1000 over a 400 from my learner bike. Fecking 20 year old pieces of shit breaking down all the time. Already bored of it's power too (though it's still good fun around corners and I know any upgrade is only going to be slower around them)

[discotex]

Didnt post these pics up earlier as I didnt want to steel your thunder on your own thread, but thought I should share in the end.
How many kms you done now? Dont be afraid to give it some and work that motor a bit, you could end up with a sluggish bike if you are too tame with it.
Enjoy the pics

Beautiful Unit! That's one sexy crazy mofo kwakka!!!

:drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:

[MVnut]

........"heard it's bad for the ZX to power stand"....... where'd ya get that little gem of information?? Bwahahahahahahahaha:woohoo::woohoo::woohoo:

[kitsune]

Was reading the manufactures manual on my bike , power stands no mater how soft on the put down still could damage the bearings/suspension in the front forks. that and im 2 shit scared to give the bike enuf gas to make her power stand. lolz mostly the last one , i tell u wot next day off im giving the bike 7k and whatever gear i feel as per unit's advice . Btw man that bike is thirsty, my 250 got 300 k's + a tank , this one is give me gas after less then 150 k's , love it to bits tho , gotta throw more wax on tho

[jrandom]

Yeah, wheelies will munt your front suspension, so what, I hear the waaambulance carries spare Kawasaki fork seals in its glovebox. ;)

Learn to do them off the clutch, though, and take it easy at first, looping hurts.

[MVnut]

Yeah, wheelies will munt your front suspension, so what, I hear the waaambulance carries spare Kawasaki fork seals in its glovebox. ;)

Learn to do them off the clutch, though, and take it easy at first, looping hurts.

All things are relative, depends if you're any good or not......... wheelying H2s since 72:jerry:

[MVnut]

And it makes noooooo difference if it's a power stand or a clutch up ...... it's how you put the front back down that counts:headbang:

[discotex]

Was reading the manufactures manual on my bike , power stands no mater how soft on the put down still could damage the bearings/suspension in the front forks.

Nah it's stoppies that'll get ya :laugh:

[vifferman]

And it makes noooooo difference if it's a power stand or a clutch up ...... it's how you put the front back down that counts:headbang:
True.
If the front comes up all by itself, unless you panic and cut the power abruptly, it's not going to hurt it much when it comes back to earth, any more than hitting a bump in the road is. However, repeated hard landings from practicing wheelies will eventually loosen/damage the headstock bearings.

[Unit]

Oh gawd...I need another one :laugh:
Lets go shopping, these bikes are getting old (nearly 12 weeks):rolleyes:

[discotex]

Lets go shopping, these bikes are getting old (nearly 12 weeks):rolleyes:

You two make me sick! :sick:












...with envy :yes:

[cowboyz]

Its surposed to be a 1000km SERVICE not a 1000km TRADE-IN....

[Unit]

Come on Cowboyz, it only takes one week to do the 1000kms, we own our bikes for a least 12 weeks. Will be hanging onto these two for some time, we have learnt its a bit expensive to test own bikes :blink:

[kitsune]

Hay unit cool advice, just cracked my first power stand today, wasn't really trying to just working the needle as you said, bike started spinning the back when the nose went up, glad i had read what to expect/had advice from you guys here otherwise i might have panicked a bit , as it was i just let the gas of a bit and let the bike bring the nose back down on her own. Fucking fun :D :D Got into 6th today, and did a bit of work on the top gears, cops saw me twice - both times i was doing the legal ;) its almost like i have an inbuilt radar detector . Felt it a few more times when the nose got light but backed off a bit at that point , cant believe the power on this bike im not a small bloke (100kg), and it wants to lift me + the bike like it was nothing when a bit of power is put on.

[surfchick]

Sure did, very carefully for 3 mths , as well as trying to pick up as much info about the bike/tips as i can to prep for it. Before shifting up i made sure i could do just about anything on my gpx, even went and did a referesher in trail riding. To be honest im kinda freaking a bit about it but i figure that will keep me from doing something stupid like droping from 3rd into second and opening the throttle up - only to end up looking at sky

you sound like you're pretty aware of the power diff. - whilst it's a big jump in NZ in the US you could have bought one off the bat. I think even the US sales people must feel odd about sending a noob/learner rider out on an r1.:rolleyes: that bike is one mean puppy tho. track days for you or you're license won't last long :eek:

one thing you'll notice is that its nearly impossible to stay at 100 because the bike will feel so stable you'll mistake 100kph for about 40kph... I've eventually learnt where 100/120 is in 3rd gear on the 996. But for months i went everywhere at 140+ not realising..

might be an idea not to get too carried away in any group dynamics when you go on your first rides with mates...:chase:

[surfchick]

Keep your weight mostly on the pegs. Use your core muscles to support your torso. If this is too hard, do situps and hanging leg raises every morning until it's not.

There should be very little, if any, weight supported through your wrists. Just lightly caress the grips. Speak softly to the bike through your body.

:love:
so true...
I used to have awesome abs & back muscles from all the surf competing i did..I USED to have a strong core... then I got a proper job... jelly belly... sort of... so not looking forward to the wrist pain as I'll be riding back to ak after the taupo track day. might be the only time in my life i'd be stoked to swap onto a gn:drool:

[crshbndct]

i suggest making a device with a screw and a locknut that will limit your throttle and you can adjust the screw to allow more throttle when you want to - like a turn or 2 every month.

[DUCATI*HARD]

become one with your bike,throttle control,be alert,enjoy it:niceone:

[CHOPPA]

its prob already been suggested but i reakon do a track day! I talked my old man into doing one on his zx14 and it changed his riding completly and the old lady felt heaps more confident on the back, he didnt try to set any lap records just gettin used to his bike in safe conditions...

[kitsune]

Hi guys long time no post, yup still here just finished about 2000k's on the bike this week , had her serviced and did some runs down to hammers, thos fucking wire barriers gave me the shits coming back into town the first time. So far i have power stood her, stoppied, had a tank slapper and had the back trie to step out, thanks to the advice of guys like kiwi fruit , and others i was able to keep myself safe , i now have a good idea of when my bike will miss behave. Lots of fun next service the suspension is getting done , i see what you guys mean it needs a change, as well as a new set of tires - more for handling then for speed. Keep safe out there guys hope to see you out there.

[discotex]

Hi guys long time no post, yup still here

Great to hear mate. Sounds like you're having a ball!

[kitsune]

I love that bike, i still cant get over how agressive she is. Im thinking of dunlop arrow max for my street tires , i used em on all my bikes due to the tough compound being able to take rough roads, and dunlop qualifiers for my track days. Remember out on the open im not out to set speed records just maintain grip / long life. Any thoughts on these. should also be noted that when getting ur bike serviced at red baron thay will also slap some really good chain wax on for you if you request it for around an extra 20$, bargin in my book. Btw what is the avarage milage on a tank that i should be seeing.
Another note , one of the biggest challanges to this bike is learning to not slap the gas closed when your going a bit quick, requires steady and precises movements. To anyone else going for a leap of bike class like i did 250 - 1000. Go for it just be bloody careful, these guys arnt joking when they say these bikes get very fast very quick .

[kiwifruit]

pilot power

150-220km a tank

[Gremlin]

Tyre choice requires a delicate balance between longevity and grip. That said... don't expect a lot of k out of any tyre on a thou. Buy a tyre that is appropriate for your riding (ie, if you're faster, get a sportier tyre, with more grip, and vice versa).

A lot swear by pilot power... I love the conti sportattack and raceattack tyres. I've found that with 1 litre hp... it doesn't matter what tyre and what surface you're riding on... push it hard enough, and she'll slide without a lot of effort.

[boomer]

Tyre choice requires a delicate balance between longevity and grip. That said... don't expect a lot of k out of any tyre on a thou. Buy a tyre that is appropriate for your riding (ie, if you're faster, get a sportier tyre, with more grip, and vice versa).

A lot swear by pilot power... I love the conti sportattack and raceattack tyres. I've found that with 1 litre hp... it doesn't matter what tyre and what surface you're riding on... push it hard enough, and she'll slide without a lot of effort.

when did you find that out....??? Google doesn't count !

[boomer]

pilot power


Soook the fat ones willy...

[Unit]

pilot power

150-220km a tank
In our opinion, Pilots. 1800kms on Norfland roads at warp nana spead, or 4 - 5000 kms on nice roads with little throttle attack.
Interesting to read your posts after 2,000kms and tbh how mature you are sounding about this bike. Yes you do need to watch back off on throttle after hard exceleration, yes she will twitch, step out, stop and turn on a dime.
As for chain wax, you should be doing this regularly at home along with checking tyre pressure frequently, and we reccomend changing the oil every 3,000kms (just a thing we do). Are you still on the standard pipes? Once you move to aftermarkets, let us know, there is a lot more involved than just changing the cans.

[BarBender]

one of the biggest challanges to this bike is learning to not slap the gas closed when your going a bit quick, requires steady and precises movements

Thats the one mate...slow motion wax on and wax off.

The way of the Ninja.

[Tonka]

I love that bike, i still cant get over how agressive she is. Im thinking of dunlop arrow max for my street tires , i used em on all my bikes due to the tough compound being able to take rough roads, and dunlop qualifiers for my track days. Remember out on the open im not out to set speed records just maintain grip / long life. Any thoughts on these. should also be noted that when getting ur bike serviced at red baron thay will also slap some really good chain wax on for you if you request it for around an extra 20$, bargin in my book. Btw what is the avarage milage on a tank that i should be seeing.
Another note , one of the biggest challanges to this bike is learning to not slap the gas closed when your going a bit quick, requires steady and precises movements. To anyone else going for a leap of bike class like i did 250 - 1000. Go for it just be bloody careful, these guys arnt joking when they say these bikes get very fast very quick .

Enjoy your bike mate and it sounds like you are, just take your time getting to know her but like KF mentioned earlier...respect the power.

Ride on bro!

[_intense_]

Dude, thats a sick lookin beast, take it easy man, and remember, they're ALL trying to kill you (cages) keep it mint -have fun :2thumbsup:

[kitsune]

Hi there again peeps, still here bike is running mint. Getting a shopping list ready for the new year. Nothing else much to report really just rolling round. One note of interest however had to go threw some roadworks in the wet on what was little more then mud. Was the least fun moment on the bike i have ever had. 180+ hp on mud is not fun, not to mention the clean it took to get the bikes shine back. Oh btw anyone know anyone who does bike detailing in auckland w/o costing heaps?. I wanna get her shined up for when i head out wit a few mates to the drag strip. There heading out for drift but me n a few guys wit bikes r gonna head out n show them boy racers what fast looks like.