Mohsin leathers. Any good?

[ColonelSponz]

I was just perusing trademe and I noticed some rather cheap leathers from a brand called Mohsin. before I jumped in I wondered if anyone here had tried them?
Cheers!

[Cr1MiNaL]

try the search bar mate !! will help ya ;)

[Luckylegs]

A friend (of significant experience, both in years riding and the stresses exserted on leather when binning) bought a leather jacket from this guy and is more than happy with the product and service.

[Quasievil]

I was just perusing trademe and I noticed some rather cheap leathers from a brand called Mohsin. before I jumped in I wondered if anyone here had tried them?
Cheers!

I will say this, you get what you pay for, literally

[Luckylegs]

I will say this, you get what you pay for, literally

You always say that..... :msn-wink:

(He says happily wearing QUASiMOTO leather... on the bottom half at least)

[Luckylegs]

I will say this, you get what you pay for, literally

Actually would be (genuinely) interested to know... are you suggesting its NO good, or NOT AS good (as any one of a number of other Brands, including of course yours).

With what you know and have seen, are you suggesting that some the lesser quality items will not stand up in a single BIN or rather while protecting for said BIN perhaps would un-useable whereas a higher quality garment might be expected to not only stand up in a BIN but also remain useable.... ???

[Quasievil]

Actually would be (genuinely) interested to know... are you suggesting its NO good, or NOT AS good (as any one of a number of other Brands, including of course yours).

With what you know and have seen, are you suggesting that some the lesser quality items will not stand up in a single BIN or rather while protecting for said BIN perhaps would un-useable whereas a higher quality garment might be expected to not only stand up in a BIN but also remain useable.... ???

Well put it this way, whatever you buy consider that the price the importer pays is made up of components, such as leather, Armour, Threads, and Labour etc, which of these has been sacrificed to enable this product to be sold so cheaply? then the seller has a Margin also (of course)
I would not wear it because I know that something is comprimised.

I have been to about 7 Factories in Asia and I can tell you categorically that the bulk of them a dodgey shady pricks who lie about most things, such as CE armour, such as Leather quality, such as threads used and stitching methods, infact a few NZ based resellers (trademe based) dont even deal with the factory they deal with a trader, so fuck knows where they are getting the shit from.

I know this sounds like sour grapes or anti competitive behaviour..............I know I know, but I know about this kinda thing and like I say I wouldnt wear it and I prefer not seeing my mates wear it, I would rather they spent a bit of money on some decent gear, and there is alot to choose from eh.

[ynot slow]

I'm in retail,have been on many courses at factories,went to a bed manufacturer,saw first hand the insides of their competitors beds,some would last 5 yrs if lucky,but at $400 who cares,some of the cheap ones once you pulled them apart and checked spring for spring,foam quality etc,not hard to see why the ones we sell are the best,even when competitors are similar priced.

Was in clothing industry as an apprentice cutter to tradesman level,during that time we had a factory in Fiji,one of our staff was there to work,some other places they went to had staff putting made in nz labels on their clothes.

Mind you the other thing that would happen was our reps taking the new range to retailers,if they got comment to expensive they would say but if we drop the fabric quality would you buy,some major stores would then order 5000 shirts,others wouldn't compromise their percieved customer high end quality.Much like a company importing adidas original and another selling pirated crap.

Still comes down to in my opinion,pay for what you get,quality costs,but there is a fine line between quality and a name brand.

Remember a few years ago the Auckland rugby team had jerseys made with cotton traders logo on not adidas or canterbury,the cotton traders brand was sold in the red sheds,wasn't to bad either,had a couple of jerseys(not auckland)and sweats.

[Quasievil]

quality costs,but there is a fine line between quality and a name brand.


lol yes to that, that is especially true with big leather brands, some specs I have seen are laughable

[ColonelSponz]

haha cheers for all the feed back guys.

[MohsinBikeWear]

Hi there, please do not be mislead by Quasievil ill informed comments regarding the price and quality relationship. This is marketing 101!! We could name many brands which judged on price alone, would put Quasimoto gear in the bargain bin of the Warehouse. It is very naive to make comments about price and quality without taking into considerations business basics such as purchasing power, market positioning, and brand development etc (to name only a few). Unfortunately Qausievil, it does sound "like sour grapes or anti competitive behaviour". Furthermore it sounds like your quite threatened by our presence. On the other hand we will quietly go about our business of delivery quality products at extremely competitive prices. Thanks

[Romeo]

It is very naive to make comments about price and quality without taking into considerations business basics such as purchasing power, market positioning, and brand development etc (to name only a few).

8 months ago you were on here stirring and I told you to come back when you had a web presence and some technical documentation regarding your products. You've failed on both fronts, meanwhile Quasi's put a lot of effort into setting up a Customer Relationship Management system - complete with <a href="http://quasimoto.co.nz">website</a>, documentation, community and <acronym title="Brick and Mortar">BAM</acronym> store. Ask anyone and they'll tell you that Quasi gear is top quality kit, comparable with the top manufacturers.

Unfortunately, whenever I try and get any documentation on your gear it just returns results on a Pakistani-British author. Even when I search on TradeMe for "mohsin" it doesn't return any results! I've never heard a bad thing said about your gear, but I haven't heard a lot of people say how good it is either. You need to bring all the positive feedback together, up the quality of your presence on TradeMe - higher quality pictures, a big clean logo and lots of technical documentation. You have to give people the figures so they can compare it with other products!

You could easily compete with Quasi, but you need to up your image a bit first. Slagging him off on KiwiBiker - a place where he's pretty popular - isn't a good start. Especially when searching Google returns results from here, and it shows you arguing the toss over trivial things ;s.

My advice? Get a professional website and take it from there.


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<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/bgold/reputation/reputation_balance.gif" /> "Missleading comment. It's clear I've not gone anywhere!" - MohsinBikeWear

What I meant was that you haven't posted on here for a long time. Not that you haven't been selling a lot of kit, which judging from your TradeMe account you've been doing a lot of - all without a single neutral/negative feedback!

[Quasievil]

would put Quasimoto gear in the bargain bin of the Warehouse.


BWAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

lets see shall we ????

Moshin top Spec Trademe Auction (reserve around $100 ???)

* Excellent abrasion resistance (really how so?)
* CE Certified protectors shoulders, elbows and back (its not CE its a copy)
* 2 outer pockets and 1 inner pocket
* Adjustable waist straps
* Fully lined
* Rear zip pants attachment


QUASiMOTO Top Spec Sold $795 (cause quality actually does cost money)

Fully pre-curved arm construction for easy fit and bike comfort
1.4 mm race quality A grade drum dyed Cowhide leather
Original stretch Schoeller keprotec Kevlar in Arms
Metal YKK Zippers
Large Speed Hump for spine protection and aerodynamic performance at speed
Removable thinsulate quilted liner
TPU Shoulders for external protection
Perforation on Chest and Quarter
perforation on Side Shoulders
Triple stitched seams
Anefil US nylon thread for internal impact zones
Genuine Knox CE armors at shoulders info at http://www.planet-knox.com
Genuine German CE LK-2 protectors on Elbows info at http://www.lk-schaumstoff-technik.de/index_en.php?rubrik=produkte&subkat=protektoren
Shock Abrasion Tempa Foam 3-layers at forearms
Double Reinforced Leather Layers at forearms
8" rear connection zipper and full Circumference
two side and one inner pocket in jacket
QUASiMOTO rubber8 inch logos on sleeves and small logos at collar


MMMMM sorry bud, anything else to say ?

[yod]

ya might wanna edit it again mate

[Hitcher]

Could the two businesses concerned please take their differences offline before this escalates unnecessarily.

Thank you.

[Quasievil]

Could the two businesses concerned please take their differences offline before this escalates unnecessarily.

Thank you.

yeah I need to stop laughing first

[ynot slow]

Brett you forgot to say you can do jackets of better quality for same price of cheaper ones.
The ones you had of old stock were good at normal price $280 or so,but when you special them at $150 a steal,mine although seconds(and Paula fully explained the faults and minor they were,nothing that's a safety issue)is the bees knees,albeit it weighs a ton lol,this is a comfort to me as it does explain that the armour is solid,leather as thick as possible and not thin belly cut.

Yep have looked at mohsin but never got satisfactory replies to questions,especially when getting down to nitty gritty on sewing,stitches per inch(cm),are they made to international stds.If answers were forthcoming a purchase may have been undertaken,due to price.

My thoughts on quasi so called slagging off competitors is rubbish,I'm in retail and don't say xyz is crap,unless I can back it up with facts and benefits,he certainly has the product to back it up,maybe others do too,but bitching that his stuff could be inferior to others without backing up the statement smacks of inferiority complex.

[ynot slow]

Could the two businesses concerned please take their differences offline before this escalates unnecessarily.

Thank you.

Nah bring it on.:girlfight:

Might it be pertinent to crash test said gear,couple of manikans,track and bike,drop dummy off bike at 100km,slide dummy off at 100km,etc.

[Hitcher]

couple of manikans

Mannequins.

[babyblade250rr]

Mannequins.

Lol i thought they were some race of people lol perhaps from the depth of papanewguinea, jk

perhaps he has a good idea though!!

[Quasievil]

Mannequins.

I need some of those, now I know how to spell it I all set !!

[Quasievil]

Nah bring it on.:girlfight:

Might it be pertinent to crash test said gear,couple of manikans,track and bike,drop dummy off bike at 100km,slide dummy off at 100km,etc.

I got a usable suit from a 170 Mile Per hour crash, will that do ?
no rips !

[Renegade]

hey quasi you guna be at Paroa this weekend with a portable eftpos machine/credit card eater?? :innocent:

[ynot slow]

Mannequins.

Yep couldn't be bothered to edit,originally had a c in,then thought it is a q followed by a u as all letters after q have u next.

[Quasievil]

hey quasi you guna be at Paroa this weekend with a portable eftpos machine/credit card eater?? :innocent:

Yeah Mate, will have the whole show there behind the post office, can take credit cards ok, eftpos is a no, more of a promo event as opposed to a sales event for us, pm me if you need something in particular and I will bring it for you

cheers ears

Look out for our hot chicks to !!!

[SixPackBack]

I got a usable suit from a 170 Mile Per hour crash, will that do ?
no rips !

An excellent advertisement. Perhaps said suit should be on show for the punters this weekend Brett?

[MohsinBikeWear]

8 months ago you were on here stirring and I told you to come back when you had a web presence and some technical documentation regarding your products. You've failed on both fronts, meanwhile Quasi's put a lot of effort into setting up a Customer Relationship Management system - complete with <a href="http://quasimoto.co.nz">website</a>, documentation, community and <acronym title="Brick and Mortar">BAM</acronym> store. Ask anyone and they'll tell you that Quasi gear is top quality kit, comparable with the top manufacturers.

Unfortunately, whenever I try and get any documentation on your gear it just returns results on a Pakistani-British author. Even when I search on TradeMe for "mohsin" it doesn't return any results! I've never heard a bad thing said about your gear, but I haven't heard a lot of people say how good it is either. You need to bring all the positive feedback together, up the quality of your presence on TradeMe - higher quality pictures, a big clean logo and lots of technical documentation. You have to give people the figures so they can compare it with other products!

You could easily compete with Quasi, but you need to up your image a bit first. Slagging him off on KiwiBiker - a place where he's pretty popular - isn't a good start. Especially when searching Google returns results from here, and it shows you arguing the toss over trivial things ;s.

My advice? Get a professional website and take it from there.


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<img src="http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/images/bgold/reputation/reputation_balance.gif" /> "Missleading comment. It's clear I've not gone anywhere!" - MohsinBikeWear

What I meant was that you haven't posted on here for a long time. Not that you haven't been selling a lot of kit, which judging from your TradeMe account you've been doing a lot of - all without a single neutral/negative feedback!

Thanks for your feedback. I'll rush out and get a website and put my prices up!

[Virago]

Thanks for your feedback. I'll rush out and get a website and put my prices up!

FFS.

Perhaps you could get a dictionary and look up the word "professionalism"?

I wonder if you guys understand that you are cutting your own throats here?

[Romeo]

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Thanks for your feedback. I'll rush out and get a website and put my prices up!

What you don't realise is that 90%+ of your clients would happily pay extra if they had the means to genuinely define the market value of your product. Right now, 90%+ of them don't know whether your product is rubbish or the real deal!

You claim to be Quasimoto's competitor, but you have nothing but competitive disadvantage!

[HRT]

So how did those of you who bought some of the gear find it in the end?

[aud]

Mohsin what bike do you ride - think you forgot to add your bike to your profile?

[Dolph]

WOW,...for a newbie, that makes interesting reading ! Looks like I'll have to check out Quasi's website. Has it got Esmerelda there too ? :whistle:

[Sparky Bills]

Funny how I laugh EVERY time I read all these "tard me" traders trying to convince people that their product is actually good quality.
And I REALLY REALLY hope that people on here dont buy it!

Its shit. Plain and simple. As far as im concerned you would never be 100% safe in these products.

[Owl]

Funny how I laugh EVERY time I read all these "tard me" traders trying to convince people that their product is actually good quality.
And I REALLY REALLY hope that people on here dont buy it!

Its shit. Plain and simple. As far as im concerned you would never be 100% safe in these products.

Nearly 1200 trades and 100% positive feedback.

Perhaps the gear isn't all that fantastic, but given a choice, I'd rather wear his pants than a pair of jeans. You're never 100% safe no matter what you wear.

[zeocen]

Dunno about that mate, some MX armour under my quasi kevlar jeans and I feel safer than previous bike pants I've had!

Yeah I know I talk about them a lot, they're just so damn versatile! :(

[bikerboy011]

I got 2 jackets, leather pant and a back protector from mohsin they are pretty good and am happy with the items.

[Owl]

Dunno about that mate, some MX armour under my quasi kevlar jeans and I feel safer than previous bike pants I've had!

Yeah I know I talk about them a lot, they're just so damn versatile! :(

I hear what you're saying and I wouldn't mind a pair myself.

I'm in the market for a pair of leather pants at the moment and I know what I want. Alpinestars Bat pants, but I'm still reluctant to part with 600 notes. I can certainly see why people go for a cheaper option, especially when you're talking a third the price.


I got 2 jackets, leather pant and a back protector from mohsin they are pretty good and am happy with the items.

Here's one happy customer. Any issues with the gear at all?

[Sparky Bills]

I hear what you're saying and I wouldn't mind a pair myself.

I'm in the market for a pair of leather pants at the moment and I know what I want. Alpinestars Bat pants, but I'm still reluctant to part with 600 notes. I can certainly see why people go for a cheaper option, especially when you're talking a third the price.



Here's one happy customer. Any issues with the gear at all?


You know what you have used...

[CookMySock]

A quick review/comparison of the gear WE OWN.

We dont have any Mohsin Leathers, but we have two Mohsin Textile Jackets, three DriRider jackets and Pants, and a cheapo second-hand leather race suit.

The DriRiders are VERY fragile. Seams pull, liners rip, zips jamb and pop, buckles snap. You must not mistreat DriRider gear whatsoever or they will fall apart. Basically, our DriRiders are fucked, after only 7 months of ownership, and thats after having a few of them replaced under warranty as well. Not impressed.

The Mohsin TEXTILE gear is much tougher than the DriRiders, but the jackets we have are not as warm or dry. The armor is better and the fabric and seams are much stiffer and stronger. It will be very good summer gear, as the DriRiders are way too hot in the summer. The Mohsin Textile Jackets LOOK awesome - beaten only by shithot-lookin set of leathers. They look and feel great as daily-wearers too, not just on the bike. The jacket liner was well suited to modifying for electric heating (liner goes right down to the cuffs.)

NONE of the above Textile gear will protect you like a Leather suit, and ANY leather suit SHOULD be light years better protection than ANY Textile jacket.

<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill">Shill</a> warning: I suck no-ones cock for money or free leathers. edit: will suck pussy for free leathers though.

Steve

[Owl]

You know what you have used...

Sorry, you've lost me Sparky????

[Eng_dave]

I'm new to riding, but want the saftey gear having had three brothers all of which have been Motorcycle Couriers in London, and had spills to prove it. I've recently tried to buy a Quasimoto jacket off trade me, and had the unfortunate displeasure of it not fitting but I agree it was well made and felt good quality. I've looked quasi's site for another size but find the prices a bit to expensive. I don't need a lecture on you get what you pay for. But I'm now looking at a Mohsin Jacket. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Leathers-jackets/auction-185038907.htm
Haven't been to see it yet but will let you know.

[CookMySock]

I'm now looking at a Mohsin Jacket. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Helmets-clothing-footwear/Leathers-jackets/auction-185038907.htm
Haven't been to see it yet but will let you know.I have one of these jackets, and also have the similarly-priced CNELL Nerve jacket. The Nerve jacket has more features, and should be a little drier in the rain. They are both summer weight jackets.

Steve

[Eng_dave]

Hey Guys here is how it went with Moshin got to his house nice guy doesn't ride, but quite good gear. Jacket that I bid on didn't fit and was okay (not as bad as Cnell stuff.) So he gave me a one off jacket that he had, better quality than the one I had won no extra expense!!(good guy). I also had a look at the leather jackets for you they seem good quality and well padded quite envious if your going for one. Against Quasimoto jacket that I tried Quasi seemed thicker on the lining but not as many features with the size adjustments on arms and side. Comfort is hard to tell quasi's jacket didn't fit me correctly so not realy fair to compare on that front. But I would say both their stuff is worth a look, prices do seem to be quite different though.

[Quasievil]

. I also had a look at the leather jackets for you they seem good quality and well padded quite envious if your going for one. Against Quasimoto jacket that I tried Quasi seemed thicker on the lining but not as many features with the size adjustments on arms and side. Comfort is hard to tell quasi's jacket didn't fit me correctly so not realy fair to compare on that front. But I would say both their stuff is worth a look, prices do seem to be quite different though.

Dude, do I stick lots of self adjusters on the jackets so one jacket fits all?? doing that is not a good way to go, the adjusters are velcro and they unadjust during a crash resulting in the armour going astray.

why do people alawys compare QMOTO to a trademe seller, compare QMOTO to a brand that has significant investment behind it not a seller who buys cheap "anything" to sell cheap "anything" and buys via a trading house in china.
next person that compares QMOTO to a budget job will get shot:msn-wink:

[Dodgyiti]

Interesting thread.

I had a spill in DriRider Summit pants. Slid 3m on dry road, and not a rough one, it was a nice smooth intersection. Wore 2/3rds the way through the foam on the hip pad. I find that absolutely disgusting. If I was not sliding for that fraction of a second on my hip and was somewhere else, that would have been my skin wearing away.
I do not recommend these pants.
After that I went back to leathers and a rainsuit.
I have been riding for 25yrs and have some of the quality gear I bought 10, 15 and 20 years ago and it is still good, except things like armour have advanced a lot in recent years.
Bought a set of Quasi leather pants and racked up 45,000kms so far in them and they look like they will last like my 'old school' gear, except I don't wear my old leather pants because they have wadded cotton padding, lol
I fear buying cheap gear because I don't see what is 600 denier or not with my eyes, but I can read a label- do I trust what I read?
Rarely, even from the big brands.

Just a quick comment about gear fitting,
I don't even expect to buy off the rack leathers and have them fit like they should. I buget in a trip to MSW to get them perfectly adjusted so the great armour does stay in place.

[Gizzit]

Hey Guys here is how it went with Moshin got to his house nice guy doesn't ride, but quite good gear. Jacket that I bid on didn't fit and was okay (not as bad as Cnell stuff.) So he gave me a one off jacket that he had, better quality than the one I had won no extra expense!!(good guy). I also had a look at the leather jackets for you they seem good quality and well padded quite envious if your going for one. Against Quasimoto jacket that I tried Quasi seemed thicker on the lining but not as many features with the size adjustments on arms and side. Comfort is hard to tell quasi's jacket didn't fit me correctly so not realy fair to compare on that front. But I would say both their stuff is worth a look, prices do seem to be quite different though.

Sounds like he gave you a good deal Dave, getting something better than you had expected, because the original didn't fit right! There's probably not a lot of guys in the business that do that. It probably explains why he has good TradeMe feedback.
And yes others have said they are happy with his leather gear. Maybe next time you'll go for leather instead of the cordura !! :niceone:
Have you read the thread "leather or lace" .... I asked the question about leather v cordura and got good constructive feedback.
Cheers.

[bikerboy011]

I hear what you're saying and I wouldn't mind a pair myself.

I'm in the market for a pair of leather pants at the moment and I know what I want. Alpinestars Bat pants, but I'm still reluctant to part with 600 notes. I can certainly see why people go for a cheaper option, especially when you're talking a third the price.



Here's one happy customer. Any issues with the gear at all?

Nope, not a problem..

[Gizzit]

Funny how I laugh EVERY time I read all these "tard me" traders trying to convince people that their product is actually good quality.
And I REALLY REALLY hope that people on here dont buy it!

Its shit. Plain and simple. As far as im concerned you would never be 100% safe in these products.

Hi there,
Just reading back through this old thread .... and I have to disagree with your (Sparky Bill) opinion that all stuff off "tard me" is shit.

One of my family members has a set of trou, jacket, and helmet he bought from the people at 1Tonne, and I believe it is very good quality gear. The jacket and trou are cordura. It appears to be well made and is a very good fit. It appears to have good quality materials. It has really good armour in it, well placed and secure. Good zips, etc. He uses it daily to commute, and in our crap Northland weather, he has never been wet.
I have owned Shift, Spool, and Rev-it cordura gear, and I think that at least 1Tonne is making gear that is easy the equivalent of that stuff.

I can't really comment with any knowledge on their leather gear, as I haven't seen it. However, I imagine that if it is of the same or similar kind of caliber as their cordura gear, then they are providing 'good quality' gear at good prices.
While it may not be quite up to the top spec stuff from the likes of Quasi, Dianese, etc, ... maybe they are not trying to compete in exactly the same market, yet. The above mentioned gear is race quality stuff. However, I think 1Tonne have a one piece and a two piece suits out now, that are designed to be fine for racing.....

In saying this .... I respect the views of others here who use Quasi's gear, and some of the other name brands ..... that I haven't seen or used either. What it means, is that it is about consistent opinion based on experience with a product that is valuable to others considering buying gear. It is evident that there is plenty of support for Quasi's gear, and that's great, and I like to see a local business supported! :niceone:

I'm not sure which of the Trade Me dealers you were thinking of with regards your comments about the quality being shit? Can you be more specific ?

It's good to know, especially for any newbies reading this, ... which specific bits of gear people have found through experience, not just an assumption, to be "shit". If we see there is a pattern to it with certain bits of gear, certain traders, people will use the experience of others here to influence their decision in buying.

Good thread. Good discussion.
Cheers,
Grant.

[1tonne]

One of my family members has a set of trou, jacket, and helmet he bought from the people at 1Tonne, and I believe it is very good quality gear. The jacket and trou are cordura. It appears to be well made and is a very good fit. It appears to have good quality materials. It has really good armour in it, well placed and secure. Good zips, etc. He uses it daily to commute, and in our crap Northland weather, he has never been wet.
I have owned Shift, Spool, and Rev-it cordura gear, and I think that at least 1Tonne is making gear that is easy the equivalent of that stuff.

While it may not be quite up to the top spec stuff from the likes of Quasi, Dianese, etc, ... maybe they are not trying to compete in exactly the same market, yet. The above mentioned gear is race quality stuff. However, I think 1Tonne have a one piece and a two piece suits out now, that are designed to be fine for racing.....

Thanks for the good comments.
We do have some very high end race suits now that are comparable to the very top brands. In fact the suit is designed by one of the main Motogp Suit designers. If you know your suits you will recognise which brand I am talking about. We are only selling the suit for $700.00 which is dam cheep considering that if it was sold in a shop you would be paying around the 2 grand mark.

[Lil'M]

I wear full mohsin brand leathers and am very happy with them. They fit well, look good and I have had comments of surprise at how cheap they were for what they are! Only thing is the jacket i got didnt zip to the pants, but $50 at a leather alteration place fixed that. You do get what you pay for, the stitching is coming undone in a couple of places but they have been put to very good use, and should get another few years out of them yet.

[Gizzit]

Thanks for the good comments.
We do have some very high end race suits now that are comparable to the very top brands. In fact the suit is designed by one of the main Motogp Suit designers. If you know your suits you will recognise which brand I am talking about. We are only selling the suit for $700.00 which is dam cheep considering that if it was sold in a shop you would be paying around the 2 grand mark.

Well I can only guess as to which of the top international suits you are talking about .... , but $700 for a really good suit will be a great deal for some of the racers here, or others who prefer to wear a suit when road riding.
Good for you. You keep expanding your gear range. Like other suppliers on this site, Quasimoto, MohsinBikeWear, LifeStyle, I hope you do well. :niceone:
Cheers
Grant.

[Eng_dave]

Dude, do I stick lots of self adjusters on the jackets so one jacket fits all?? doing that is not a good way to go, the adjusters are velcro and they unadjust during a crash resulting in the armour going astray.

why do people alawys compare QMOTO to a trademe seller, compare QMOTO to a brand that has significant investment behind it not a seller who buys cheap "anything" to sell cheap "anything" and buys via a trading house in china.
next person that compares QMOTO to a budget job will get shot:msn-wink:

Just for the record, I wasn't saying that your jackets are worse because they don't have adjustments, I was just giving and an accurate account of the differences that I noticed. In addition to my previous statement about the Moshin jacket had it a little while now. Here are some more thoughts haven't tested it against the tarmac yet, but rain wise all good. Noticed the back protector isn't as high quality as shoulder and arm protectors but I wear back armour anyway, so no concern for me. Just something others might want to check when buying the gear.

[Gizzit]

Pleased to hear things are going ok with your Mohsin gear Dave. Which back protector did you get? I don't think any of the standard back armour that comes in jackets is good enough to provide real back protection in a road bin. There are too many potential rough and lumpy things to come in contact with, unlike the generally smooth conditions of track riding. That said .... I've never been on a track .... let alone slid along one !!!

We bought Quasi's Knox Aegis back protectors .... and they are top line!! Nice and light and comfortable. The reports on back protectors I've read on the net recommend them as the best available, so that's comforting to know!

My wife and I both got leather jackets and trou from Quasi and they are really good. I haven't been riding much lately though, as my right hand is still a bit munted from my bin two weeks ago. However, after using cordura gear, the leather certainly feels heavier and stiffer. I'm sure it takes a while to soften.
Thanks for the feed back on you gear Dave.
Cheers.

[pocketcracker]

we own mohsin gear , and 1tonne and both run large sports bike at speed and feel 100% safe in the gear .. two thumbs up from myself and my partner .. as i also own topline branded gear and do not feel or see any difference between brand X and mohsin... If anything mohsins gear is more comfortable For longer duration riding

[bladez]

I will say this, you get what you pay for, literally

well i own a set of mohsin leathers as a budget and price did factor :Playnice:
i have owned Leda leathers and as i see they are the top nz made leathers had a set for 9 yrs no holes till age caught up and zip became tight :beer:
there are a lot of ppl out there who carnt afford ur gear and find a cheaper set just the same as for ppl selling on trade me i notice you got a new trade me account now :2thumbsup
so my point is everyone will up there own brand of leathers they sell its common sence
as for leathers i would buy if i could afford again would be Leda from dusty
so each to there own

[firefighter]

I was just perusing trademe and I noticed some rather cheap leathers from a brand called Mohsin. before I jumped in I wondered if anyone here had tried them?
Cheers!

OK, here's my FIRST HAND experience. It is SHIT. Well the gear I brought was, an absolute waste of money(textiles). One of my mates borrowed my pants when we went for a ride, he's about half a size bigger than me, and when he sat on his bike (just sat down) the PANTS TORE AT THE SEAMS......... Imagine if he was in a slide along the ground? imagine if I had been sliding along the ground! he would have been better off in jeans or a bloody wetsuit.........their product may have improved, I dunno, either way I actually threw my gear out because i have too much of a concience to on-sell it to someone, IMO it is CHEAP NASTY SHIT, the product I recieved was super thin, could be ripped by hand and was only fitting as a fashion accessory for a weirdo.

My 2c anyway mate, I hope this helps

[Owl]

only fitting as a fashion accessory for a weirdo.

Love that bit!:laugh:

[Gizzit]

OK, here's my FIRST HAND experience. It is SHIT. Well the gear I brought was, an absolute waste of money(textiles).

I have heard better reports about the leather gear. I won't trust ANYONE'S textile gear again.



their product may have improved, I dunno, either way I actually threw my gear out because i have too much of a concience to on-sell it to someone, IMO it is CHEAP NASTY SHIT, the product I recieved was super thin, could be ripped by hand and was only fitting as a fashion accessory for a weirdo.


Good for you .... not on selling gear you don't believe in !! Bling! :niceone:

[Dolph]

Been reading the various threads,...very interesting.

Did a bit of hunting and I think I've found the Mohsin parent company website...

http://bikewears.com/

Haven't formed a solid opinion yet....

[BiK3RChiK]

For textiles I think they are as good as any out there. We have DriRider, Mohsin, and Nerve in textiles and a leather racing suit that I'm not sure of the brand of. So far, the Mohsin and Nerve are holding together and the DriRider stuff is falling apart...

If you want good quality, then I think leather is the way to go. But leather has it's drawbacks too with it not being waterproof.

Best thing I reckon is to shop around and have a real good look at other peoples gear and talk to the people at the bike shop.

[TOTO]

Thats the manuafacturer in Sialkot Pakistan who makes it.........want the pricelist ?

so does it mean you are dealing with those manufacturers aswell ?

[nallac]

Thats the manuafacturer in Sialkot Pakistan who makes it.........want the pricelist ?

Why not?...
lets see how cheap they really are.

[Mrs Busa Pete]

Thats the manuafacturer in Sialkot Pakistan who makes it.........want the pricelist ?

Only if we are going to get your price list to use as a comparision.

[Gizzit]

Thats the manuafacturer in Sialkot Pakistan who makes it.........want the pricelist ?

Your stuff is made in Pakistan as well Quasi, as is most of the stuff available. Don't start taking the piss out of another distributor again, as you often do. It is poor form, and not needed.

[Rambo69]

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[awayatc]

Interesting reading.....I have a Moshin cordura jacket for the Aprilia, lots of pockets and definitely 100% waterproof. It was vey inexpensive, and suits it's purpose......as for protection in "offs" ....well I hope I will never have to find out,
(I only ever came off a s young lad many moons ago.)
I do however wear leather pants.....And also leather jacket for Harley...
If I would buy a cordura Jacket again, I would happily get Moshin.....
Leathers you need to try on, and are undisputedly lightyears better for protection....
Horses for courses....

[Taz]

You only have to look back at how Quasi conducted himself on this site a few years back to realise that honour and tact are not his strong points. I wont buy Quasi product either.

[Gizzit]

You only have to look back at how Quasi conducted himself on this site a few years back to realise that honour and tact are not his strong points. I wont buy Quasi product either.

Well I know I won't buy his gear again, and that is mainly because of his attitude towards other people selling gear that are on this forum. He consistently slags other suppliers gear off, and I don't see any other supplier here doing the same thing. It is immature and very poor conduct IMO. and I have had a gutsfull of it on KB. I don't care how many friends or supporters you have on here Quasi, you need an 'attitude adjustment' and to learn professionalism if you want to stay successful in business.

[Trumpess]

Best thing I reckon is to shop around and have a real good look at other peoples gear and talk to the people at the bike shop.



Either that or get your gear custom made.
Best thing I ever did.

[Owl]

For what it’s worth, I believe Quasi is genuinely passionate about motorcycle gear and the safety of riders! I see that as a good thing and rare in this day and age.
Diplomacy may not be his strong suit, but are his comments driven by malice or concern? We know he doesn’t like having his gear compared to the cheaper brands and that’s fair enough. I’d imagine Dusty from Leda or the dude from Celtic Leathers wouldn’t like their gear aligned with cheap brands.

Do I own any Quasi gear? No! Would I buy any Quasi gear? Possibly, though I like to try before I buy and logistics is a factor!
Would I buy Mohsin or 1Tonne? No, as I consider it unknown and I now refuse to budget myself when it comes to motorcycle gear.
Is there a place for Mohsin and 1Tonne? Sure there is, as many people are restricted by a budget and can’t afford expensive gear, or simply don’t view it as important enough.

Each to their own!:yes:

[nallac]

Very well put Owl...

[CB ARGH]

The saying you get what you pay for is expressed many times throughout this forum, and it is so true. It is not good to compare high priced products to those of a much lower price range. Of course the product's features and quality will differ, that's the way of life. It's like comparing an expensive motorcycle to a much cheaper one, of course the quality and specs will be extremely different.

I'm a cheap bastard, so I would choose to go for the Mohsin or 1Tonne gear, however if I had a million dollars to spend, of course I would buy the most expensive gear out there.

By the way, CE approved means sweet f all to me... did you know that your toothbrush is CE approved? :eek5:

[Gizzit]

The saying you get what you pay for is expressed many times throughout this forum, and it is so true. It is not good to compare high priced products to those of a much lower price range. Of course the product's features and quality will differ, that's the way of life. It's like comparing an expensive motorcycle to a much cheaper one, of course the quality and specs will be extremely different.

I'm a cheap bastard, so I would choose to go for the Mohsin or 1Tonne gear, however if I had a million dollars to spend, of course I would buy the most expensive gear out there.

By the way, CE approved means sweet f all to me... did you know that your toothbrush is CE approved? :eek5:

Well for me .... this thread was about discussing how good .... or not, Mohsin's leather gear is. I think it is relevant if people comment on that point, based on knowledge of his product from using it, or having used it recently, or have reliable anecdotal evidence of a friend or someone that uses Mohsin's products.

What I objected to ... once again, was another dealer starting to slag or bring down in some way, this dealers gear. That is unprofessional, and not at all needed, as really good gear stands up on it's own merits, without the supplier having to denigrate anyone elses gear, to make his achieve a high status. It doesn't matter if someone is "passionate" about motorcycling and motorcyclists safety or not. That doesn't give them the right to denigrate other dealers gear, no matter who it is. I wouldn't hesitate to defend Quasi, if other dealers started to have a go at him. It's a principal at stake here, and some genuine dealers reputations can be ruined easily enough by others listening to, and heading the advice of a senior member of this forum, which Quasi would seem to be. He has a strong following for his products and obviously many friends here. That doesn't give him the right to slag other dealers off.
Anyone who sells gear on here .... or anywhere else for that matter, will sink or swim on the basis of the quality and value for money of their product. No dealer here deserves to have his or her gear rubbished by a fellow dealer. That is my objection. In my view, it is about professionalism and character.

[Rambo69]

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[Road Guardian]

I think we need to get some more info on what the moshins/1tonnes gear are like after its been binned. And really see if there is a difference in the amount of wear and the how the seams have held up.
Anyone out there which such knowledge??

[200BUSA]

Well for me .... this thread was about discussing how good .... or not, Mohsin's leather gear is. I think it is relevant if people comment on that point, based on knowledge of his product from using it, or having used it recently, or have reliable anecdotal evidence of a friend or someone that uses Mohsin's products.

What I objected to ... once again, was another dealer starting to slag or bring down in some way, this dealers gear. That is unprofessional, and not at all needed, as really good gear stands up on it's own merits, without the supplier having to denigrate anyone elses gear, to make his achieve a high status. It doesn't matter if someone is "passionate" about motorcycling and motorcyclists safety or not. That doesn't give them the right to denigrate other dealers gear, no matter who it is. I wouldn't hesitate to defend Quasi, if other dealers started to have a go at him. It's a principal at stake here, and some genuine dealers reputations can be ruined easily enough by others listening to, and heading the advice of a senior member of this forum, which Quasi would seem to be. He has a strong following for his products and obviously many friends here. That doesn't give him the right to slag other dealers off.
Anyone who sells gear on here .... or anywhere else for that matter, will sink or swim on the basis of the quality and value for money of their product. No dealer here deserves to have his or her gear rubbished by a fellow dealer. That is my objection. In my view, it is about professionalism and character.



I agree - I wont sell my bike gear on here as i dont want my gear being said it is crap when i know its good. If someone wants to slag off anyones gear, make sure they have bought some first and tested it.
Good on Moshin and 1Tonne and all other dealers for trying to provide riders with a choice instead of having to pay a high sum of money - just for a brand name.
Customer service is the most important thing to me.

[Gizzit]

I agree - I wont sell my bike gear on here as i dont want my gear being said it is crap when i know its good. If someone wants to slag off anyones gear, make sure they have bought some first and tested it.
Good on Moshin and 1Tonne and all other dealers for trying to provide riders with a choice instead of having to pay a high sum of money - just for a brand name.
Customer service is the most important thing to me.

Yes my sentiments exactly. I hope you have a good outlet then. The others, Mohsin, 1Tonne, Lifestyle (aka Madmax5 ?), sell on trademe and are present on here .... and I see that as a good thing. There is always room in the market for more players as far as consumers are concerned. It gives us choice! And I wish all dealers the best of luck.
I haven't tried Mohsin's gear personally yet, but have heard some good reports. I wouldn't hesitate to buy it if I wanted something he had. I have got some 1Tonne cordura gear, and as yet haven't worn it on my scoot, but am confident that it will suit my purpose and perform as well as any cordura gear available. I have a family member who uses it and likes it, although he hasn't crashed in it, so we have no knowledge of how well it performs, but likely as good as any other cordura gear. I have got one of Lifestyle Imports leather jackets,and can say that it looks very robust and well made. It's comfortable. I'm confident that it will work in protecting my skin ... but hopefully will never get to test that! I have owned Quasi's gear, and thought it was generally pretty good.
It would be good to have feedback from those people that have binned in any dealer's gear, as first hand knowledge of what they found worked ... or didn't. I see that as helping us as consumers, and dealers as far as feedback on their products. There has been good reports about Quasi's gear in crashes, so it would be good to hear how others have found .. other gear!

[Stromble]

I had an off (lowside) at around 100Kmh, had jeans on and a Mohsin touring jacket and kevlar knuckle gloves..

My leg was shredded.. Levis= no protection and a week in hospital on an IV to stop infection..
Arm was only grazed with heat rash from the slide and the knuckles half ground off the gloves, but hand fine..

The jacket got a small tear in the sleeve but didnt go through the inner lining.. I replaced it with another of the same jacket which i still use for long rides.. Great fit and from experience good protection.

Also now have a pair of Mohsin leather pants, luckily I havent tested these on the metal as yet.. :)



I think we need to get some more info on what the moshins/1tonnes gear are like after its been binned. And really see if there is a difference in the amount of wear and the how the seams have held up.
Anyone out there which such knowledge??

[ynot slow]

I have Lifestyle Imports boots,bloody comfy and priced competetively,when I've been in rain they haven't leaked,reccomend them,but then again they don't have fancy name so must be crap.Haven't fallen off,albeit a zero km off,and boot crushed under the engine and no marks even.

[bounce]

a mate has one of these jackets. seems to be well built and of decent weight leather. Fit is very poor though and the armour is pretty uncomfortable compared to my Shift M1.

[Gizzit]

Well I have just bought via auction, one of Mohsin's leather jackets, so will soon have it, and get to see exactly what they are like, and I will report here how I find it. However, .... I'm hoping never to be able to tell you what kind of protection it offers in a crash !!! Sorry .... not even for the sake of research science.... am I going to "try and bin" !! lol.

I'll happily discuss how I find the quality and fit of the jacket, and what the armour is like. I'm sure it's going to be fine!

[Neon]

What we need is

a) each supplier to kindly donate a leather jacket / pants which is representative of the product they sell, in the name of 'science'

b) some mannekins

c) a ute that is capable of 100km/h

and to dress said mannekins and eject them forthwith from the back of the ute at said speed on a clear piece of road and watch the action. :rockon:

then compare the results.

Or, we could just suggest it to a couple of university engineering departments, I'm sure someone would do some empirical testing (possibly with slightly more validity that the method above) as a 4th year project.

:scooter:

I'm of the opinion that this discussion is worthless without proper unbiased empirical testing. Anecdotal evidence is exactly that - anectotal. And always biased. Even if the bias is being deliberately unbiased :blink:

[Gizzit]

Riding bikes is not like that mate. We buy gear, we try it out, tell others if it's crap or good, .... it isn't science. It is just purely "anecdotal", with the acknowledgment that it is someones opinion, and possibly/probably biased.

One thing you can discover though, is if people buy gear, and report that it's good, or bad, and then if that becomes more of a consistent experience of several users .... then there is a good chance that the collective experience is indicative of quality of any product. IMHO.

[Quasievil]

If I can offer in closing these comments to you all.

This thread started of with someone asking if the Mohsin brand is any good, to which I replied, you get what you pay for.........not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone, its a basic reality and I have said this before, ya do get what you pay for (Im sorry I will take the to the grave) this was replied to by Mohsin suggesting sour grapes and anti competitive behaviour etc and a suggestion that my brand belongs in the bargin bin of the Warehouse, I challenged this statement with a direct comparision between the two brands (as ya would).
since then............on this thread I dont think I have said anything harsh at all................APART from two days ago where I posted the want the pricelist comment, which was really a off the cuff comment which I FULLY APOLOGIZE FOR I dont have the pricelist of course and it was an off the cuff comment which in my absence has got outta hand......sorry.

Since then however I think a few of you are getting a bit carried away (frankly) I challenge you to read back through and actually see who is getting the bashing here, if its for what I have said previously then I again apologize to you.

I hold a very strong and genuine interest in Motorcycle gear and its safety for the rider, I think most of you know this, I do need to adjust my attitude a bit, I will take that on board but dont doubt my honour or integrity as Rambo69 (1tonne) promotes as I dont think I have particualry slagged of anyone to a level that justifies some of the comments posted really.

Ive had a discussion with the mods here and indicated that I will be more careful with my Quasievil login as of course it is seen as QUASiMOTO also (fair enough)

So again I aplogize to those that have got upset towards me.

Have a nice day, time for A&E from Paeroa crashin........oh and two crashes no rips lol (eeeek can I say that)

[Gizzit]

"This thread started of with someone asking if the Mohsin brand is any good, to which I replied, you get what you pay for.........not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone,"

....., " not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone" ......

IMHO .... I think that we can all draw conclusions about that statement ....

Lets hope .... that there IS no more product bashing, by any supplier ... against any other supplier. IMHO I think as consumers we can voice our opinions of how we find any kind of gear, bike, or whatever .... on this forum, be it positive or negative , .... if it is constructive or helpful to others.

However IMHO, any dealer on here, deserves the right to have any concerns about his/her product dealt with in private via email/phone calls, or whatever .... FIRST, before their products reputation is ripped apart in a public forum, where damage to a dealer's reputation can be serious. I believe that bringing real legitimate concerns about a product should only be brought here LAST, if you have failed to get a satisfactory remedy via contact with the supplier FIRST.

Just my opinion .....

[Quasievil]

"This thread started of with someone asking if the Mohsin brand is any good, to which I replied, you get what you pay for.........not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone,"

....., " not actually directed at MOhsin or anyone" ......

IMHO .... I think that we can all draw conclusions about that statement ....

Lets hope .... that there IS no more product bashing, by any supplier ... against any other supplier. IMHO I think as consumers we can voice our opinions of how we find any kind of gear, bike, or whatever .... on this forum, be it positive or negative , .... if it is constructive or helpful to others.

However IMHO, any dealer on here, deserves the right to have any concerns about his/her product dealt with in private via email/phone calls, or whatever .... FIRST, before their products reputation is ripped apart in a public forum, where damage to a dealer's reputation can be serious. I believe that bringing real legitimate concerns about a product should only be brought here LAST, if you have failed to get a satisfactory remedy via contact with the supplier FIRST.

Just my opinion .....Take is as you like Mr Gizzit, thank you for the red rep for what was a genuine apology, I sometimes forget that this is KB

Cheers

[nallac]

jeeze thats nice, getting red rep for saying ya are sorry......

[Gizzit]

Take is as you like Mr Gizzit, thank you for the red rep for what was a genuine apology, I sometimes forget that this is KB

Cheers

Well Quasi ... you didn't hesitate to give me a couple of "red reps" for my comments. They are the first I have ever got.
Be a Big boy .... and get over it. You got feedback from a few people on here, not just me, that don't like your tactics with regard to slagging other gear suppliers off, (and not just in this particular thread) in an effort to keep your potential market share.
Lets leave it there, and stop the swapping of pleasantries ... Best of luck with your QMOTO brand, and to 1Tonne, Mohsin, Lifestyle Imports, and any other suppliers on here ... :niceone:

[1tonne]

Thanks for that Gizzit.:niceone:

[Quasievil]

that don't like your tactics with regard to slagging other gear suppliers off, (and not just in this particular thread) in an effort to keep your potential market share.


So you keep saying.

Cant recall red repping you but as you like

Thanks for the kind wishes for the future

Ive said all I need to say

[Gizzit]

jeeze thats nice, getting red rep for saying ya are sorry......

It pays to read everything ....

:tugger:

[Gizzit]

So you keep saying.

Cant recall red repping you but as you like

Thanks for the kind wishes for the future

Ive said all I need to say

Well ... bad memory or not .... you did. However, far more people gave me positive reps and comments over this thread, ... so I'll just have to wear some crap for sticking up for other peoples rights .... No problems. :scooter:

[mikeey01]

You don't know me and I don't know you for a bar of soap but I do know some of you race and I'd say you, like I do, have a good understanding of what works and stays together and lasts a bin and stands up to the test of time.

I would suspect you have in the past needed the protection and tested a few bits of kit out over the years and are speaking from experience. Valuable stuff experience, often learnt the hard way by trial and error / errors?

I know I would NEVER wear anything other than quality leather!

My experience isn't much but I learnt my lesson on bikes when I was a school kid.

I've only tested leather a couple of times over the years, one that springs to mind was a peter pan event over the bars, sliding down the road at well over 100 kp/h, phew I survived the slide to get up, a little numb and sore perhaps but I thanked god I had on what I had on (a sheep dog walked out in front of me when I was on a mates bike :( ) The leathers survived and went on to be worn years later!

There appears to be many different types of leathers out now, from soft leather, thin crap leather and some good quality thick stuff, I've never seen this mohsin yet but....
In my opinion it's got to be thick, hard yet flexible and comfortable... trust me if it's needed every thou of thickness, strength of the leather, every extra seam and every stitch it's got you'll be happy with if you ever need it, especially when your sliding down that grater type road surface we've got on our roads!

Been there, done that, got the tee-shirt and learnt by hard lessons years ago.
It's got to be good stuff that you or someone you know has got that really works!

Now before you all go half arse off at me,
I'm not a brand queen, but ya just know, I dunno how but if you've been for a slide down the road ya just know what is needed to do the job again and when you pick something off the rack ya know, it's almost a gut feeling!

It's also got to be a good fit too, shops these days seem to be all too keen to sell / move the stock without even thinking of correctly fitting gear.
Nothing looks better than a chics nice arse in firm leather pants on a bike. :)

[ynot slow]

I have just won some leathers off trade me,not for me but used my account(person wasn't addy accredited),be good to see what they are like,have Quasi jacket and pants which was el cheapo due to asking if they had any seconds etc,instead of buying a jacket for $899 with alpinestars on it or spyke or name brand,maybe ask the little guys if they have any seconds,surplus samples in your size.My leathers cost the grand total of less than $250.00,and are as good as named ones,all because I was lucky at the time and they(operators)wanted to clear old stock/samples.

[BiK3RChiK]

My husband virtually totalled his bike in an off last year when he hit a culvert and somersaulted his bike and himself, with the bike coming down on top of him (upside down!) at 120km/hr, after which he and the bike slid in the grass along the side of the road for about 50 metres or so. At the time, he had DriRider Cordura gear on. The only damage to his gear was a small tear? if you like, that is hardly noticeable. I am still amazed that his gear held up as it did, but, obviously, am very glad that it did! I don't particularly like the DriRider gear, but what can one say after such an 'off'? Hopefully, our Mohsin and Nerve gear never gets tested in the same manner!

[nallac]

It pays to read everything ....

:tugger:
:tugger: (thats so nice)

well i have read everything on this thread, been reading it from when it first started....


from what i could see Quasi was actually saying sorry for his remarks....
Good on him for being man enough to do it.

[Gizzit]

I have got the Mohsin jacket I ordered, and it looks really good. The quality of the stitching looks really good, and the whole of the jacket is well finished. Good leather, the armour fits well, zips are good. The lining is really nice, and the pockets inside and out are really well placed, well zipped, and are of a good size. It fits me very well, and is comfortable on. That is a real plus for something off the peg!
I think it is very good values for money. I hope never to test it's durability in an "off", but I am sure it will do its job by the looks of things. I will certainly report what happens if that does eventuate !! (A picture of the jacket is in a previous post).

The other leather jacket I bought recently from Lifestyle Imports is also really nice. I wasn't sure what it would be like, looking at the picture of it, but it is a very nice jacket, and also appears to be very well made, and is certainly appears to be good value for money. It's also very comfortable! I will report if I ever have an "off" in that jacket .... but am really going to try and stay upright after my last couple of bins! It's a bit sore at my age !!

I just need t find some leather trou, preferably that go over my boots rather than tuck into, but also has armour in hips and knees. There doesn't appear to be much around fitting that description. Most leathers with armour in, are tight fitting down into the boots. I've always preferred trou to go over top of my boots for some reason ...
:cool:

[ynot slow]

I just need t find some leather trou, preferably that go over my boots rather than tuck into, but also has armour in hips and knees. There doesn't appear to be much around fitting that description. Most leathers with armour in, are tight fitting down into the boots. I've always preferred trou to go over top of my boots for some reason ...
:cool:


My leather pants have zips which I undo and the pants go over boots,then zip the pants up,the zip doesn't close completely though,goes to about 50mm from end.Most pants should be similar unless you want race specific pants.

[Gizzit]

My leather pants have zips which I undo and the pants go over boots,then zip the pants up,the zip doesn't close completely though,goes to about 50mm from end.Most pants should be similar unless you want race specific pants.

Oh ok ... my last pair of leather trou had to go inside my boots. No way would they go over top. I just thought that most of the "sports" type trou, .... that have knee armour and hip padding in, are quite tapered at the ankle, even with zips. The straight boot leg trou are good, but I don't know any that have knee armour and/or hip padding ? What brand are your leather trou ?

[Virago]

Oh ok ... my last pair of leather trou had to go inside my boots. No way would they go over top...

Next time you're down in the City of Snails, pop in and see Kerrie at Motorcycle Safety Wear in K' Road. She can make or modify leathers to fit you perfectly, at very reasonable rates.

[Gizzit]

Next time you're down in the City of Snails, pop in and see Kerrie at Motorcycle Safety Wear in K' Road. She can make or modify leathers to fit you perfectly, at very reasonable rates.

Thanks for that. I have heard excellent reports about her! Cheers :niceone:

[ynot slow]

Oh ok ... my last pair of leather trou had to go inside my boots. No way would they go over top. I just thought that most of the "sports" type trou, .... that have knee armour and hip padding in, are quite tapered at the ankle, even with zips. The straight boot leg trou are good, but I don't know any that have knee armour and/or hip padding ? What brand are your leather trou ?

Mine are Quasis' sample specials,ones they looked at producing or slightly used can't recall,but were unmarked,they had knee armour but I cut part of that away so it is only around the knee not down to the shin.They have zips on the bottom.

[Gizzit]

Mine are Quasis' sample specials,ones they looked at producing or slightly used can't recall,but were unmarked,they had knee armour but I cut part of that away so it is only around the knee not down to the shin.They have zips on the bottom.

Yeah I had his leather trou, the ones without the sliders. But they were very tapered and fitting, and would not go outside my boots.

However ... I've taken this off topic ... Bad me !! :spanking:

so I'll take this over to the Cruiser section ... where I belong !! lol ... and ask about them over there .... cheers. :niceone:

[ynot slow]

Mine didn't have sliders on(don't need em)so good for cruising in lol.

[Gizzit]

Mine didn't have sliders on(don't need em)so good for cruising in lol.

I don't need them either .... or perhaps on my helmet lately !!! lol :laugh:

[pritch]

Oh ok ... my last pair of leather trou had to go inside my boots. No way would they go over top. I just thought that most of the "sports" type trou, .... that have knee armour and hip padding in, are quite tapered at the ankle, even with zips. The straight boot leg trou are good, but I don't know any that have knee armour and/or hip padding ?

Check this out:
http://www.celtic-leathers.com/news.php

Sam will make 'em how you want, price list on his site.

I know the thread relates directly to Mohsin but I can't comment on those.

While I do believe you get what you pay for, it may also be true that having less expensive gear is better than having no gear at all.

I disagree with those that make comments to the effect that you are just paying for a name. There are reasons why those brands can command a higher price for their name.

Over four years ago I started to buy Spidi cordura gear. On "special", superceded lines. Great crash protection, good insulation, less impressive protection from the rain. H2Out or not.

Style Martin boots were purchased initially, similar comments to the Spidi suit.

Eventually I got pissed off getting wet, OK the weather was sometimes extreme but...

So I decided to buy GoreTex and bought BMW clothing; mates rates but still bloody expensive. This suit has soft armour, less insulation than the Spidi suit, but will hopefully prove to be more waterproof.

Sidi Canyon Gore-Tex boots were then added, the fastening system is a bit fiddly but they work as advertised - so far.

I have a Spidi leather jacket which I like, and the only time I tested it, it did its job and bears only slight scars.

This week I received a pair of straight leg jeans from Celtic Leathers I haven't been out in them yet but when I've had a chance to ride in them for a while I'll post a report.

Oh, almost forgot, going back to the bad old days I also have a Belstaff waxed cotton suit.

And no I'm not independently wealthy, with the exception of the Belstaff suit which was imported as a suit from the UK, this gear was purchased one item at time over a number of years.

[Gizzit]

Thanks for the tip. I'll check out Celtic Leathers.
It sounds like you've done your home work .... trial and error stuff, where you do find what works for you.
Cheers. :niceone:


And yeah ..... it would be good to hear what you think of the jeans you mentioned.

[200BUSA]

[QUOTE=pritch;1958656]Check this out:
http://www.celtic-leathers.com/news.php

Sam will make 'em how you want, price list on his site.

I know the thread relates directly to Mohsin but I can't comment on those.

While I do believe you get what you pay for, it may also be true that having less expensive gear is better than having no gear at all.

I disagree with those that make comments to the effect that you are just paying for a name. There are reasons why those brands can command a higher price for their name.



And the reasons are what?


So i tell my manufacturer what i want made and what is expected for NZ riders, and our conditions. Relating to safety and our weather conditions and the quality of workmanship. So the big name manufacturers can spend more on testing and fancy fittings and labels. But how does that make them any better than some of the other gear that is sold at lower wholesale rates.
I stand behind my gear and use it every day - no problems. My customers are happy with there new gear and like not having to pay high prices.
All other sellers on KB back there products and i suppose they are sure there gear is as good as any big brand name.
Ok people say you get what you pay for - but a lot of the lower priced gear can be very good quality and do the job very well.

[Quasievil]

Yeah I had his leather trou, the ones without the sliders. But they were very tapered and fitting, and would not go outside my boots.



They are designed to fit inside the boots only

[pritch]

But leather has it's drawbacks too with it not being waterproof.


It is now, but you'll need deep pockets :whistle:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2008/02/goretex-pro-shell-leather-in-d.html

[Gizzit]

It is now, but you'll need deep pockets :whistle:

http://hellforleathermagazine.com/2008/02/goretex-pro-shell-leather-in-d.html

Man ... I'm having trouble accessing that site !! Is everyone here trying at the same time or what !!!???? lol.

[pritch]

And the reasons are what?

Quality, brand recognition, R&D, the local importers desire to pay off his BMW early?

The "big name" manufacturers also need to recover the costs of all those kangaroo skin suits that they presumably pay the MotoGP and Superbikes riders millions of dollars to wear...

My first choice would have been Dainese but if it was being sold in this country at the time it was a bloody well kept secret, and I didn't know about Peter Stevens Motorcycles then.

I'm sorry but the advertising of the big brands has worked its evil magic on me, I just can't believe that the budget lines offer the same quality as say Spidi or Dainese. There have to be compromises somewhere.

We all buy what we can afford, and what we are comfortable with. My post was about what I bought, and what I thought of it.

[Gizzit]

....... SNIP ..........

We all buy what we can afford, and what we are comfortable with. My post was about what I bought, and what I thought of it.


Fair comment. That's about all any of us can do ...."buy what we can afford, and what we are comfortable with".

Good comment, and is straight forward feedback ....."My post was about what I bought, and what I thought of it".

I thought these were particularly two relevant points from you post as a consumer!

[ynot slow]

The name game has some merits,the All Blacks rugby jerseys are a prime example,public think Addidas must be good as the NZ team wear them,but reality is the AB's use them once,local rugby teams use theirs 15-20 times,the fact the rugby union gets endorsements and promotes their sponsors product doesn't make it any better or worse than others.

Case and point a few years ago Auckland used Cotton Traders? jerseys,also sold through the wharehouse as track pants and tops.

But it does come down to the companies R&D which aint cheap,i.e Holden spending $1billion on the new commodore last year.

[weekendwarrior]

I was just perusing trademe and I noticed some rather cheap leathers from a brand called Mohsin. before I jumped in I wondered if anyone here had tried them?
Cheers!

If you aint got 800 to spend, leave a message on the sellers auction with your cell phone no. asking to come have a looksee, hes in Ellerslie, that way you can try before you buy. :headbang:

[Taz]

I really like my Mohsin jacket.

[ynot slow]

I really like my Mohsin jacket.

That's all that matters,hope it never gets road tested.Ours due anyday be good to compare with my one.

[Taz]

That's all that matters,hope it never gets road tested.Ours due anyday be good to compare with my one.


Don't make a habit of testing my bike gear. Had one low speed off in 23 years not counting the race track. Sometimes I even ride in just a T-shirt.....

[Munga]

I had a long read of a lot of posts about what people think: marketing, brand names, it's crap, it's good, it's not as good as blah etc.

Unless I missed it due to the rambling, noone has posted an experience related to an 'off' and how the mohsin leathers performed.

It's cool if they look nice or whatever, but what's really important is, has it got it where it counts? Will you be picking stones out of your kneecaps with a hook on a prosthetic arm for the years after your big stack?

I can tell you about cordura. It sucks, buy leather.

[Aaron_newrider]

http://www.bikewears.com/p_tour.asp

Could this be the same stuff, or could this be what the origional gear is and he's ripping it off?

[Aaron_newrider]

Also, http://www.padana.com/research-developments/default.asp?LngID=en

The guy who they say is the CEO is the CEO of both companies. I don't work for anything to do with Motorbikes BTW, I work for HP.

[Gizzit]

http://www.bikewears.com/p_tour.asp

Could this be the same stuff, or could this be what the origional gear is and he's ripping it off?

No .... he doesn't "rip it off". I would guess they are his suppliers, hence the brand name. Kind of like bike shops selling brands of bike gear. They are retailers. Maybe you could ask him ? Like most people selling gear on this site, he is a reasonable guy, and good to deal with.

[Quasievil]

No .... he doesn't "rip it off". I would guess they are his suppliers, hence the brand name. Kind of like bike shops selling brands of bike gear. They are retailers. Maybe you could ask him ? Like most people selling gear on this site, he is a reasonable guy, and good to deal with.

Correct, it is the supplier having been there I can confirm it

[klyong82]

The NZ guy import his stuff from MBW.

[Aaron_newrider]

It would be fantastic to see the Tech Pack for the Moshin gear, I think I will give him a call and ask for them :)

If i get anything i'll post here. :)

From manufacturees website according to branding

1. What makes your products high quality when many companies have same claims of quality products? To claim quality is one thing, to deliver it another. Our product quality is maintained in our multi-step quality control procedures.
Our products are made according to preset product spec sheets or tech packs of each product which contains all the details and criteria about the product manufacturing from the start till the completion of order – from the selection and purchase of raw material to the shipment of consignment. These tech packs are developed, after receiving customer order along with product specifications, by our quality assurance department with the coordination of research and development and production departments. The customer feedback always holds important place in this process as well as in house developed, tried consistent quality control procedures. These tech packs are distributed to the entire setup involved in product manufacturing directly and indirectly and these are kept as standing instructions and reference guides. This helps us in achieving desired results and coordinating the operations of purchasing, production, packing and quality control departments as well as export and accounts departments.
With this effective control over ‘information preparation, distribution and implementation’, a consistent and homogeneous quality product is made and a timely and preplanned order execution takes place, each and every step is recorded and after the completion of every order whole process is evaluated in order to check any lapse that could have occurred or could be occurred in future.
The end result of this effort is topnotch quality of our products, on time delivery of orders, superb customer services and flourishing business of our customer’s giving them edge over their competitors.
If you have another question please contact us. We'll provide prompt, accurate answers.

[nudemetalz]

Sorry to dredge up an old thread.
Anyone here know how I can contact Daz from Mohsin Leathers?

[Mike Wilson]

Hi, anything cheap will be just that. I own Jet Leathers and while my products are not what you would call Chineese, Pakistani cheap they will far outlast any other brand. I repair/fix/alter these cheap brands every week so they are not the deal you might first immagine....Cheers Mike Wilson 068787949 jetleathers.com

[Gizzit]

Sorry to dredge up an old thread.
Anyone here know how I can contact Daz from Mohsin Leathers?

From memory .... 'Google' Moshin. One of the pages has his contact details ....

[Icemaestro]

I know the whole 'you get what you pay for' and "100$ helmet for a 100$ head" has been said regularly on KB, however here in the states the discount you get on 1-2 year old stock is phenomenal....I'm talking a 400$ USD jacket down below 100$... Now I know with writing it off as a loss etc but still, Retailers don't often go below cost I would have thought?
Not to mention how much cheaper brand new name brand stuff is here in the states - even factoring in shipping charges.

[RUM42]

From a newbie Thanks to all those whom put up meaningful comments about gear for sale and the various good and bad attributes for each ect, certainly helps when spending quite a bit of money to ensure its not going to waste.

[nudemetalz]

I bought a set of zip-together sports ones. Love them. Great value for money. Recommend for sure.
Haven't crashed yet so can't tell you about that aspect of them !!!

[Quasievil]

From a newbie Thanks to all those whom put up meaningful comments about gear for sale and the various good and bad attributes for each ect, certainly helps when spending quite a bit of money to ensure its not going to waste.

Happy to put together a deal for you if you like, plenty can testify to the crashability of the Qmoto brand, me included :yes:

[Reubix]

Had a spill today on Paekakariki Hill road - not a 100m down the road slide but still went a fair distance. Not a scratch on me, just some bruises from the impact.

...Oh yeah and I was wearing a $570 2-piece 'Titanium GP Race Suit' from Mohsin.... So all of you keyboard warriors parading about 'quality of product' and all that other bullshit that seems to spew out of every orifice can now shut the fuck up. You have your proof that these things work - from my own experience and NOT your speculation.

Who wants photos?

[Ocean1]

Had a spill today on Paekakariki Hill road - not a 100m down the road slide but still went a fair distance. Not a scratch on me, just some bruises from the impact.

...Oh yeah and I was wearing a $570 2-piece 'Titanium GP Race Suit' from Mohsin.... So all of you keyboard warriors parading about 'quality of product' and all that other bullshit that seems to spew out of every orifice can now shut the fuck up. You have your proof that these things work - from my own experience and NOT your speculation.

Who wants photos?

At the posted limit over there you could biff it wearing naught but a smile without waking up.

[mulletman]

Had a spill today on Paekakariki Hill road - not a 100m down the road slide but still went a fair distance. Not a scratch on me, just some bruises from the impact.

...Oh yeah and I was wearing a $570 2-piece 'Titanium GP Race Suit' from Mohsin.... So all of you keyboard warriors parading about 'quality of product' and all that other bullshit that seems to spew out of every orifice can now shut the fuck up. You have your proof that these things work - from my own experience and NOT your speculation.

Who wants photos?

Sure why not, cheers

[Coldrider]

Buggered if I'd dredge a 5 1/2 year thread to defend a purchase, yet alone admit to falling off in a reduced speed zone that had the intention to stop crashes.:facepalm:

[Damantis]

Had a spill today on Paekakariki Hill road - not a 100m down the road slide but still went a fair distance. Not a scratch on me, just some bruises from the impact.

...Oh yeah and I was wearing a $570 2-piece 'Titanium GP Race Suit' from Mohsin.... So all of you keyboard warriors parading about 'quality of product' and all that other bullshit that seems to spew out of every orifice can now shut the fuck up. You have your proof that these things work - from my own experience and NOT your speculation.

Who wants photos?

Haven't come off yet but am fairly confident it will hold up okay. Motorcycle clothing is like tyres - you buy the best you can afford.

A good runner could run a marathon in shoes from the warehouse in the same time as in a pair from Footlocker. Maybe they might wear and tear earlier, maybe a little, maybe not. The huge prices demanded by the likes of Apinestars etc obviously incorporate things like sponsorship deals, advertising, research and development and the downright "snob factor: i.e if it's good enough for Lorenzo or tiger woods or Usain Bolt, it's good enough for me. After all, why would someone getting paid to tell you something, not tell you the truth? The same marketing bullshit that makes people buy a pair of sneakers made in Indonesia for $3 for $200 so some basketballer or track star can get millions to talk up shoes he'll never have to pay for. Sure, Quality is quality and often cheap is not. But it's up to the consumer to figure out and decide if they want to pay top end prices for products that can be had for less. I suspect a lot of people just like the feeling they get when they put on said "labels" because it affords them membership to some kind of club that appeals to their ego and sense of self worth. Good for them. If they need marketing to tell them what they need, then so be it. They can be the ones who pay for the development of new technologies etc while the more frugal among us can reap the price benefit of the knock offs.

Glad you're okay. How fast were you going and what sort of impacts / abrasions happenned? Some photos would be interesting.

[Reubix]

Buggered if I'd dredge a 5 1/2 year thread to defend a purchase, yet alone admit to falling off in a reduced speed zone that had the intention to stop crashes.:facepalm:

I googled Moshin and got a thread of speculation and marketing towards Quasievil's brand... Fuck me, right?

And who can have fun at 60KM/h? not me that's for damn sure.

Photos to come whenever, I'm off to Burnham tomorrow so will post them up when I get back, sorry about the delay.

[steve_t]

At the posted limit over there you could biff it wearing naught but a smile without waking up.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course a 22hp bike can still wake you up. Fuck all the fuckin keyboard fuck warriors :spanking::Pokey::headbang::banana::clap:

[Coldrider]

Don't be ridiculous. Of course a 22hp bike can still wake you up. Fuck all the fuckin keyboard fuck warriors :spanking::Pokey::headbang::banana::clap:According to both yahoo and stuff today, 'size' does matter.

[Verzent]

Whats with all the bashing... so far from the pages that I've gotten through, the people who actually bought a pair of his pants have said that they're good, and the ones who don't have them have said that they're bad...

It's all cowhide leather, and from what I've read they all generally have 1.2-1.4mm of it.
Will there be any difference in it getting burnt through? Or is it all about the hard armour in the knees that will protect, or the threading coming undone?

Where do we draw the line to say that this is a good level of protection and where do we draw the line to say what is overkill?

Ive been riding for only 5 months now and I'm in the market for some leather pants after seeing my mate shred through his jeans and bust his knee.

The Mohsins happen to be within my budget.
But all this anti-competitive behaviour is getting in the way of these forums being helpful. You could argue that these posts are old and that most people have changed, yet a lot of the latest threads that I've read, most of the seasoned posters tell you to do a search instead, leading back here.

I cant afford $600 leather pants with the latest molded zigatron technology, so I'll just keep riding around in my jeans.

[nzspokes]

Whats with all the bashing... so far from the pages that I've gotten through, the people who actually bought a pair of his pants have said that they're good, and the ones who don't have them have said that they're bad...

It's all cowhide leather, and from what I've read they all generally have 1.2-1.4mm of it.
Will there be any difference in it getting burnt through? Or is it all about the hard armour in the knees that will protect, or the threading coming undone?

Where do we draw the line to say that this is a good level of protection and where do we draw the line to say what is overkill?

Ive been riding for only 5 months now and I'm in the market for some leather pants after seeing my mate shred through his jeans and bust his knee.

The Mohsins happen to be within my budget.
But all this anti-competitive behaviour is getting in the way of these forums being helpful. You could argue that these posts are old and that most people have changed, yet a lot of the latest threads that I've read, most of the seasoned posters tell you to do a search instead, leading back here.

I cant afford $600 leather pants with the latest molded zigatron technology, so I'll just keep riding around in my jeans.

Dont worry, Quasi didnt survive and no longer sells gear so your safe.

[Reubix]

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[nudemetalz]

lotsa pics...



Goodness me,..when I first saw a couple of those pics,..I thought I was looking at a p0rn site...err..not that I know what they look like... :Police:

[Quasievil]

Dont worry, Quasi didnt survive and no longer sells gear so your safe.

Wrong Dickhead, sold it and made a heap over the years

[Damantis]

Dont worry, Quasi didnt survive and no longer sells gear so your safe.

See what happens when you look in a mirror and say his name three times! :laugh:

[nzspokes]

See what happens when you look in a mirror and say his name three times! :laugh:

:laugh::laugh: