Fatal accident involving Back Fire/Razya on SH1. 20 Oct, 2007

[Back Fire]

Hello All,
I am writing this message on behalf of whom you know as "Backfire/Razya" 's family. This morning 3:30am NZT he was involved in a fatal accident involving wire rope barriers. He is no longer with us. Those of you that know him, you can contact his family to say your fairwells by emailing to evens@itworkshop.co.nz , this email address will be setup in the next 24 hours. There will also be a fuernal for him, please contact us on evens@itworkshop.co.nz for details.

Note to Site admin. We do not know the password to logon to this "Backfire/Razya" account. Can you please email us @ evens@itworkshop.co.nz with a new password for this account? as it'll enable his family to communicate via this forum.

Any communications can also be handled by Zapf or Gremlin.

Regards
on behalf of the Evens family

[Toaster]

Very sad to hear...... yet another gone. RIP

[Quasievil]

Im Really deeply sorry to hear about this, no words can offer any help.
look after each other and if you need anything please ask.
Quasievil

[chanceyy]

condolences to the family & friends that were with him, we have had many a nite chatting on msn, very very sad to hear this news today

[Sparky Bills]

Very sorry to hear.
RIP fellow biker.

[montsta56]

Very sorry to hear R I P

[RC1]

condolences

[Big Dan]

Another one lost but never forgotten

didn't know him personaly but thoughts and condolences to the family and friends

RIP fellow KBer

[chanceyy]

condolences to the family & friends that were with him, we have had many a nite chatting on msn, very very sad to hear this news today

R I P buddy ....

[MaxB]

RIP mate.
Condolences to the family.

[cowpoos]

condolences to the family and friends. such a sad thing to hear.

R.I.P dude!

[Macktheknife]

RIP.....................
My deepest sympathy to the family.

[Trudes]

R.I.P. Back Fire.:(

[sunhuntin]

ride in peace :(

[skidMark]

a little tribute from me for dan .....may your soul keep riding bro.

[Phurrball]

RIP fellow rider...

My thoughts are with you and your nearest and dearest.:grouphug:

[sugilite]

Rest in peace fallen brother.

[Brett]

Gutted to hear this, only rode with Rayza 2 or 3 times, but he was a good bugger. RIP Fella.

[tide]

RIP, condolences to the family...

[klyong82]

RIP fellow biker.

[marty]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10471047

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[GSVR]

Sorry to hear this. I didn't know this kiwibiker at all but because he was a Kiwibiker it makes the accident alot closer to home for me.

Every year we lose several Kiwibikers and its always on the road. Just something to think about. To much to hit on the road.

The rider willl be at rest but his friends and family have to go on without him.

[Jerms]

My condolences to the family. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

[Grahameeboy]

........................my prayers are with family and friends

[NighthawkNZ]

My deepest sympathy and condolences to the family. RIP fellow biker.






On a side note... live to ride... Ride to live, be safe out there people.

[Karma]

He was a good friend, he could take the piss and have it took all in good spirits.

Can I request that if any of you have photos of him or even memories you'd like to share that you either post in this thread or email them to the address in the first post.

I for one remember the time we were out having wheelie practice... I couldn't get the K1 up for being a chicken shit, but he got straight on and had her up before you knew it. He knew little fear, and was always there for you if you needed him.

[Tickler]

RIP mate and condolences to the family and everyone effected :(

[Romeo]

Terrible news, makes me reconsider whether to get a bike or not.

RIP and condolences to the family ;[

[skidMark]

for those who want to see the media circus...heres a video of crash site....does not show him but does show remains of bike scattered down motorway....if u don't wanna see this do not click you have been warned....but thought some others might want to see it....

the bike is a wreck.....

http://www.tv3.co.nz/VideoBrowseAll/ExtendedVideo/tabid/315/articleID/37320/Default.aspx#video

RIP bro

[mynameis]

Really sad to hear the news, RIP fellow biker and my thoughts are out to his family and friends. Seeing his bike in pieces on the clip is very sad :bye:

[Zuki Bandit]

Deepest condolences to the family concerned.

R.I.P fellow Biker!

[FROSTY]

RIP dude ----

[klingon]

I just realised this was Rayza. (I didn't realise he'd changed his name to Back Fire.) When I first joined KB and chat was more lively, I used to chat to him a lot in there. He seemed like a hard case kind of guy - lived for the thrills & was prepared to take the spills along with it.

RIP Rayza.

[Keystone19]

Rest in Peace Dan/Rayza...

You'll be sadly missed.

[bikerboy011]

Rest in peace :(:(

[Jeaves]

RIP bud......

[gijoe1313]

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[surfchick]

oh no - rip

i hate those rope/wire barriers :(

[fireball]

farwell dude may you keep riding forever RIP

best wishes for the family

[bmz2]

R.I.P , best wishes to the family

[nudemetalz]

I just saw this on the news. I hate how they choose to show the bike up close.

RIP Dude, move on to the heavens and ride free.
Condolences to the family.

[one-speed]

rip
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[riffer]

Not good news.

My thoughts with the family.

RIP Back Fire.

[Warren]

RIP fellow biker

Here is a link to his profile here on kb (I hope I got the right one)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=3578

EDIT: fixed the link but didn't realise that his account was used to make the first post

[NodMan]

r.i.p. ...........................

[Wiki Drifter]

very sad news. Thoughts go out to his family and friends. RIP

[skidMark]

RIP fellow biker

Here is a link to his profile here on kb (I hope I got the right one)

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/member.php?u=1803


wrong one, hes Back Fire

[boomer]

Oh my word.

Condolences to the family and close friends. Very sad news indeed;

RIP Dan.


Boomer

[hospitalfood]

very sad to hear........
condolences to family and friends.

[boomer]

Can the person that just sent me a message via bling please pm me. as i know not who you are.

[Paul in NZ]

Sorry to hear this sad news - rip rider....

[bane]

:no:
........................ :(

[inlinefour]

Sorry to hear this, was wondering who the rider was after watching the news clip on the TV and seeing the remains of the gixxer. Have talked to Razya alot online and know the problems he had with riding motorcycles in the past. Condolances to all who knows him and is hurting from the loss.

[skidMark]

Speculation Mark is not for now mate and I cannot believe you are thinking of checking the bike out..............RIP means RIP...........


so the same thing can happen again if it is a manufacturer fault...smart...as i said i'm leaving it for another thread.......

thats final.

RIP buddy...

[sprag]

RIP fellow biker, 21 is way to young to go :(

[Kickaha]

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[daaatomic]

Condolances to all that have to continue on without him.

[Gizzit]

Very sad to hear news of a fellow biker dying. I didn't know him, but wish his friends and family condolences

[Black Bandit]

Saddened to see this. Only met a few times but he was a decent fella. Sure didn't look like the accident was survivable :(... RIP

[Zapf]

Update: I was the only witness at the scene.

The front end (forks, triple tee, tank, fr wheel) shot off to the left, rear end of the bike was deflected by the barrier and headed along the same angle as it entered the collision with the barrier. The front and the back end seprated.

[Terminated]

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[RantyDave]

The front end (forks, triple tee, tank, fr wheel) shot off to the left, rear end of the bike was deflected by the barrier and headed along the same angle as it entered the collision with the barrier. The front and the back end seprated.
Oh fuck, you are kidding. Hell of a thing to witness, you OK man?

I was riding past some of these things this morning. In the wet, of course. Terrible to think of ... never mind. RIP.

Dave

[Draco]

Toooo young to die :(

To his mum, Arohanui from one mum to another

Zapf, kia kaha mate, and remember you have a big support network in your kb family, call me any time hun

RIP Razya

[ArcherWC]

Even though I didnt know him personaly, this really hits me in the guts. Way too young to go.... rest in peace fella

[avgas]

So sad, didnt quite click who it was for a while. but now i realise who it saddens me as they were so young.
Condolences to the family.
This stuff always spins me - not a good way to start a holiday. So sad.
I notice they are banning those barriers in Australia now.

[xgnr]

Terrible thing for all concerned. Hang in there Felix and please call if you want to chat any time.

Stu

[dmoney]

RIP...very very sad news

[swbarnett]

Ditto to all that's been said. Condolences. RIP fellow biker...

[99TLS]

RIP fellow biker

[kiwifruit]

RIP bro

[ynot slow]

RIP,thinking of parents,grandparents and siblings at this time,way too young.

[N4CR]

This is N4CR here, yup banned a while back of course (spank never chaned user title) but just regged to make a post here... I'll keep making new logins whenever anything comes up I need to see on this site (love you spank :/).

Just message for whoever.. To ma and pa sorry to hear of the news, I know it will be hard for you to take but think of the good times you had together, the fun times and the sad times, the silly times and the laughs! I know there will be many :) Give Allan a message if you want to talk to me.

I awoke to a few text messages asking if I was okay (wouldn't be seen on a gixxer anyway ;) ) and found out shortly after who it was.
Pretty much everything today has not gone to plan for me, so I'm having a night in...

Was good hanging out with Dan over the roughly 2 years plus we've known each other! Great fun riding around, poking crap at Allan/Dan and the rest, doing 'rice runs', hanging out at random places wherever our rides took us, trying to make decisions for silly little things and of course the general shenanigans we always got up to! The corro loop runs and sh16 thrashes, pure bliss!
You have been a great guy to know, shit happens :( You were always friendly and easy going.. know ya bikes and ya stuff about other things and definitely always a damn laugh so thanks for the times hehe!

Will catch up with you one day and we can have a chat about some motards again eh :devil2:

Regards,
-T

[skidMark]

that was fucking awesome tristan...was good catching up with you today man...sorry for all the extremely worried txts....

[_Shrek_]

our thoughts & prayers to the whanau & friends...

RIP... fellow kiwibiker

[devnull]

RIP dude..

My sincerest condolences to family and friends

[erik]

Damn it. I knew him.

Commiserations to his family.

Zapf, I hope you're ok.

[Nicksta]

I'm deeply sorry to read this thread.

To Daniel's family... stay strong and cherish the good times and great memories...

Allan, Felix, Tristan, Mark and friends, what can i say....

Dan, Rayza.... one of the first KBers to talk to me when i was a noob, online and on my first ride... thank you for hanging and teaching me so much. Our blats to KKK... Coffee runs... and Playstation battles and company when i was sick. Thank you for letting me ride your 600 at westgate ;) LB'll have a gixxer ready for you....
rest in peace dude.... rest in peace.

[Leong]

Very very sad news. Dan was one of the first KBers I met when I started riding just over two years ago. A fine polite young man and a credit to his parents. I know they're a motorcycling family, but I'm sure this doesn't make it any easier. My condolences.....

Rest in Peace Dan.

[Nasty]

RIP Dan ... our thoughts and wishes go with you as you make this next part of your journey ...

[Lissa]

r i p......... :( My thoughts to friends and family.

[BIGBOSSMAN]

That's simply dreadful - me and a bunch of riders rode past the scene this morning on the way to Waihi not knowing we'd lost one of our own.
Rest In Peace.

[DUCATI*HARD]

rip,ride on brutha!!!

[NotaGoth]

Rest in peace Dan.......

[Xile]

So sorry to hear, condoleances..

(hear about a crash by a driver at a station service at the end of the ride, but did not imagine how sad it was...)

[Matt Bleck]

r.i.p .

[skidMark]

I'm deeply sorry to read this thread.

To Daniel's family... stay strong and cherish the good times and great memories...

Allan, Felix, Tristan, Mark and friends, what can i say....

Dan, Rayza.... one of the first KBers to talk to me when i was a noob, online and on my first ride... thank you for hanging and teaching me so much. Our blats to KKK... Coffee runs... and Playstation battles and company when i was sick. Thank you for letting me ride your 600 at westgate ;) LB'll have a gixxer ready for you....
rest in peace dude.... rest in peace.

Can just see bruce daryl and dan wheelieing across the clouds already like the good old days....


Very very sad news. Dan was one of the first KBers I met when I started riding just over two years ago. A fine polite young man and a credit to his parents. I know they're a motorcycling family, but I'm sure this doesn't make it any easier. My condolences.....

Rest in Peace Dan.


I think youve summed that up perfectly leong , he was a very polite guy and his parents had raised him extremely well could be a bit quiet sometime but damn he knew how to ride....

I remember the ATNR (Auckland Thursday Night Ride) one night he came out on his dr650 deafening us all with his loud yoshi...then pulling out and we were taking a shorter route heading thru backroads he get onto a straight and put it up on one wheel and man.....that still remains to this day the best ever wheelie i had seen....

perfectly balanced and i mean perfectly...went along for a good 500 metre with the numberplate about 2 inches off the ground...no more no less for the whole frikking wheelie....same angle the whole way.... plate 2 inches off the ground perfectly consistent for 500 metres , the rest of us couldnt believe it...talk to him after...oh yeah...was nothing much....

meanwhile were all sitting there in disbelief...

anothertime we had undercover cops following the ride but ddnt notice...and he hoists up a massive wheelie...well we get to dairy flat...cops took 6 licenses....then walked up to dans bike and go right now whose bike was this...dan steps forward and says mine...

cop says we were behind you and you hoisted up a wheelie. but were letting you go because that was a very safe wheelie and we saw nothing wrong with it....

always known for having deafeningly loud bike...the dr650 passing me one night down a straight....bwarrrr and i went ohh yeah pretty loud...went round some corners....next big long straight i come out...and theres this deafening noise...i'm like whys my bike so bloodey loud...hang on that aint my bike...nobody nearby....look 500 metres ahead...theres this little dr650 tail light dissapearing down the straight...and i still couldnt hear me blimin bike...

and when the k6 gixxer thou had a slashcut...geez...me poor ears.... that was LOUDDDDD.

LEGEND lol

a little while ago i'm sitting at the pub....and somebody gets a cellphone call.... can somebody come get us???

so me having the only car a couple of **delivery riders jump in and away we go...get to the end of peak road to see 3 rather glum looking fellas sitting there with thier bikes...and no licenses......so two of them needed a lift...but not dan...oh yeah ill be sweet...got a lift coming.....

are ya sure buddy? yeah yeah i'm sorted...alrighty so in hopped the two fellas with no licenses..... and the two fellas with licenses delivered thier bikes home for them...morcs and karma from memory...with pumba and big dog riding thier bikes....

i remember driving away and looking at dan as i drove away sitting on the ground....see me gives me a grin and away we went and away he slipped away from the lights into the darkness....

and thats the last time i ever saw him.

that image is forever in my mind.

SM

[TLMAN]

Live by the sword, die by the sword!!

RIP dude.

[MidnightMike]

I'm only putting up Rayza as thats when I used to talk to him through the good old days of KB chat, quite like Klingon:


I just realised this was Rayza. (I didn't realise he'd changed his name to Back Fire.) When I first joined KB and chat was more lively, I used to chat to him a lot in there.

Great person to talk to, and get some info from, especially when I was new to this site and to bikes in general.

Very sad start to the long weekend, especially for it to be someone so young.


Please ride safely out there guys.

R.I.P Rayza.

[98tls]

Live by the sword, die by the sword!!

RIP dude. :clap:About time.Thing is do both in your own space.

[skidMark]

for my earlier post katman gave me red rep...was speaking from the heart about a lost mate...if anybody else has a problem with my previous post....number 86....please let me know....:no:

[Kendog]

RIP Razya

skidMark, thank you for sharing your memories. The last bit was truly moving.


i remember driving away and looking at dan as i drove away sitting on the ground....see me gives me a grin and away we went and away he slipped away from the lights into the darkness....

and thats the last time i ever saw him.

that image is forever in my mind.

[Hawkeye]

RIP Fellow Rider .. May the wind in your face continue forever.

Condolences to the family and friends.

[raster]

RIP.....
Dan, didn't know you but knew of you. :2thumbsup

skidMark, Bought tears to my eyes :weep:, thanks for some "moving pictures".

[justsomeguy]

Hey Dan,

Remember first riding with you on the Opononi ride, thanks for swapping bikes.

Then had fun seeing you learning to wheelie the Gixxer 6 hundy and going on a few Coro Loops.....remember the one when the KB God joined us?

Was nice waking up the neighbours that night with your slashcut.

"That's the bad thing about biking, keep at it long enough and you keep hearing of mates who keep having some grief", Paul, Mechanic, Botany Honda.

Peace mate:bye:

[Zapf]

If anyone of you guys know Dan well and would like to help provide consuling / support to Dan's family it will be much appreciated. As his parents, have no relatives and family in NZ to call upon.

Both me and Gremlin live in East Auckland and Dan's family is out west in Titangre (Langhom).

As we are not able to be there all the time and we live far far away, any help in providing a shoulder for the family to lean on would be greatly appreciated.

Please PM me if you are able.

Thanks
Zapf

Photo shows Dan at his 21st last month

[howdamnhard]

Our condolences to the family,you are in our thoughts and prayers.

[skidMark]

If anyone of you guys know Dan well and would like to help provide consuling / support to Dan's family it will be much appreciated. As his parents, have no relatives and family in NZ to call upon.

Both me and Gremlin live in East Auckland and Dan's family is out west in Titangre (Langhom).

As we are not able to be there all the time and we live far far away, any help in providing a shoulder for the family to lean on would be greatly appreciated.

Please PM me if you are able.

Thanks
Zapf


i know rudi (rudolph on kb) was going to catch up with his parents as he knew him very very well, had to tell him over the phone tonight when he rang me, that wasnt easy.

[Meanie]

RIP Mate
21 is too bloody young to die Condolences to his family and all who knew him

[boman]

My deepest sympathies to the family.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Humbling.... very humbling.... The worst part of ur journey is over brotha. May your soul RIP

[WelshWizard]

To All who have posted messages on condolence for Back Fire/Razya
Many thanks from my wife and myself, Dan was a fanatic bike rider, even though as a little child he hated the noise of my BSA or Norton, he followed both his mum and myself into a love of Motorcycles.

At the moment the police won't let us see Daniel, so we have to wait till the funeral directors get him and tidy him up. once done we will have details of the funeral to post up for any of his friends to come, please note if any want to come to his funeral you will be most welcome, BUT please all motorcycle riders please come by bike.

And if any of you want to help in any way please stir up about the cheese wires they are putting up as a barrier, in most countries these have been ban because of the danger to motorcycle riders, they say speed was a factor, sorry the road was straight and clear, he was a better rider than I am and that's after nearly 50 years riding bikes, and having myself had to step off bikes at 125MPH in the past, know that the speed they say he was doing was easily survivable. what killed him was the cheese wires, and the fact that the head stock appears to have fractured, for any of those who have seen the video you will see his forks are straight, and his rad is still intact, which does not marry with a front end impact with a barrier. I await confirmation as to why the head stock separated from the rest of the frame.
Daniel would want people to fight the cheap skate attitude of TNZ in fitting the cheese wire barrier instead of a safer system of barrier and I don't mean the half hearted corrugated barrier that are up as these still allow a motorcycles to slid under them into a post.

WW and Dragon
Daniels Dad and Mum

[ZeroIndex]

Condolences to the family involved... never easy losing a loved one.

[Xaria]

Our sympathy to the family

[Mrs Busa Pete]

To All who have posted messages on condolence for Gravel_rash /Back Fire/Razya
Many thanks from my wife and myself, Dan was a fanatic bike rider, even though as a little child he hated the noise of my BSA or Norton, he followed both his mum and myself into a love of Motorcycles.

At the moment the police won't let us see Daniel, so we have to wait till the funeral directors get him and tidy him up. once done we will have details of the funeral to post up for any of his friends to come, please note if any want to come to his funeral you will be most welcome, BUT please all motorcycle riders please come by bike.

And if any of you want to help in any way please stir up about the cheese wires they are putting up as a barrier, in most countries these have been ban because of the danger to motorcycle riders, they say speed was a factor, sorry the road was straight and clear, he was a better rider than I am and that's after nearly 50 years riding bikes, and having myself had to step off bikes at 125MPH in the past, know that the speed they say he was doing was easily survivable. what killed him was the cheese wires, and the fact that the head stock appears to have fractured, for any of those who have seen the video you will see his forks are straight, and his rad is still intact, which does not marry with a front end impact with a barrier. I await confirmation as to why the head stock separated from the rest of the frame.
Daniel would want people to fight the cheap skate attitude of TNZ in fitting the cheese wire barrier instead of a safer system of barrier and I don't mean the half hearted corrugated barrier that are up as these still allow a motorcycles to slid under them into a post.

WW and Dragon
Daniels Dad and Mum

Pete and I send our heart felt condolace to family and freinds of dan. We only meet dan a couple of times and he was always freindly and very polite he was a credit to you both :grouphug: I will pm my phone number to you and if i can be of any help please feel free to call me and we will be there.

If there is to be a bike procession for dan we would be honoured to be there.
Regards Wendy & Pete :grouphug:

[H00dz]

Arohanui Razya....

Although I did not know you personally I am deeply saddened to hear of your untimely passing.........

To his family.....I think that no words that I could give you will take away the pain you must feel .......can I say that as a father you have my deepest and heartfelt condolences at this time........



To the fraternity that is KB.... Please everyone be safe out there

[jafar]

r i p .................

[_Gina_]

RIP Dan.

I rode with Dan a couple of times when I first started riding, he was such a lovely guy, polite as others have said and a real sweetie (waiting for me to catch up riding through Coro) Spoke with him heaps on chat too.

Took this photo on one of the rides.

:weep:

[Kelem]

Rest in Peace.., Too young to be taken.

[Disco Dan]

Rest In Peace fellow brother...

[JMemonic]

Although I did not know this rider I offer my condolences to his family and friends.

[Bruiser]

To All who have posted messages on condolence for Gravel_rash /Back Fire/Razya
Many thanks from my wife and myself, Dan was a fanatic bike rider, even though as a little child he hated the noise of my BSA or Norton, he followed both his mum and myself into a love of Motorcycles.
WW and Dragon
Daniels Dad and Mum

To Dans' Mum & Dad,
Marsha and I offer our heartfelt condolensces on the tragic loss of your son.

I did not ride with Dan but am sure I've seen him around West Auckland a few times.

Being a Dad who rides, with a son who also rides, I can say my boy has already given me his share of stressful moments as news of an "off" he's had is delivered. I can't imagine what you are dealing with now, but do know that heart--stopping moment when told "your son has been in an accident".

If there is anything we can do as fellow bikers (and Westies) please feel free to call, I've PM's our contact details.

With deepest respect,
Bruce and Marsha

[Neon]

My heartfelt condolences to Dan's family and friends, from a fellow biker.

Andrew.

[crashe]

My sincere heartfelt condolences to Daniel's Mum and Dad, family and friends.

I too used to chat with Dan in the chat room some time back.
I have ridden with him on a few KB rides...

Dan, you were a wonderful young fella.... so polite and friendly.

Felix - Hang in there mate...... ((((((((HUGS))))))
And cheers for putting up that lovely picture of Dan......

As another Westie, if there is anything that I can do, please contact me.



Rest in Peace Daniel.........

[Cache Wraith]

:weep: Goodbye friend

[BMW]

RIP fellow biker- condolences to the family and all that knew him well

Sad to hear of another biker down.

[BMW]

As another Westie, if there is anything that I can do, please contact me.
Rest in Peace Daniel.........


Seems the Westies stick together when something happens....

Good to see

[Robbo]

Although i did'nt know Dan, he was one of the KB Family and as a parent myself it is hard to imagine just what you must be going through.
My Thoughts and Prayers go out to the Family.
Regards
Robbo

[jade]

does anybody know how the accident happen ? I imagine the road is pretty straight and at that time empty

[Edbear]

RIP fellow biker- condolences to the family and all that knew him well

Sad to hear of another biker down.


+1

Condolences!

[WelshWizard]

The road is straight at the point, I have already told the police that I wan't a structural engineer to inspect the bike that I will appoint, they have said he will not be given access till they release the bike as they claim he hit the barrier with the bike, I have been down to the crash site and I am sorry but I do not agree, yes Daniel hit the cheese wires and the barrier, but I don't think his bike did, what has been realated to me from another source ameadatly riminded me of the way the first 1969 Norton Comandos frame failed and that is why I want an independant inspection of the frame failure on the Bike concerned
WW

[Buster]

Very sad news.

R.I.P Mate..........

[Brett]

The road is straight at the point, I have already told the police that I wan't a structural engineer to inspect the bike that I will appoint, they have said he will not be given access till they release the bike as they claim he hit the barrier with the bike, I have been down to the crash site and I am sorry but I do not agree, yes Daniel hit the cheese wires and the barrier, but I don't think his bike did, what has been realated to me from another source ameadatly riminded me of the way the first 1969 Norton Comandos frame failed and that is why I want an independant inspection of the frame failure on the Bike concerned
WW

I have been harping on about those bloody cheese cutters for a long time, I am going to start HOUNDING Transit. There is no need for such cheap barrier construction. A thick sheet of plastic would be cheap, replacable and stop riders sliding into them. WOuld cost less than the fatal crashes caused by them will cost in the years to come. I suggest all of us stop lobbying them. You dont have to speed to be hurt by these things.

RIP Dan.

[MD]

Very sad to hear another rider dead.
RIP

[mynameis]

I am so sorry to hear about the sad news, my heart and thoughts are with the family and his mum and dad. Hard times, but time shall be the healing factor.

I recall meeting and riding with Dan a few times on ATNR, very kind, polite and well mannered guy. Also at the tracks a few times. Once with a cast in his hand but still turned up to ATNR to company his mates.

REST IN PEACE brother :bye:

[HungusMaximist]

Never met ya man but I when ran across your profile pic, I thought 'man, what a quirky and cool pi sticker you have you on bike'

Rest in peace bro and may the motorcycling gods watch over you and your family!

Please let us know when the service is going to take place.

Cheers.

[roadracingoldfart]

Sad news indeed.
Thoughts go out to friends and family.
Dianne & Paul.

[beyond]

Just saw this thread and I'm gutted as is everyone else here.
When I first got back into riding a couple of years back I rode with Dan on several Coro loops and I got on well with him and enjoyed his company.

He always used to rib me about how do you manage to throw your lazy boy armchair through the corners like that. :)

RIP friend.

.................................................. ................

[DMNTD]

Tragic loss,way too early! :crazy:
Had ridden only once but had met several times and chatted many times online but mostly him giving me shit re owning Kawasaki's and riding an over weight Superduke! . Cheeky arse wee bugger! :clap:
Rock on bro!

[Scouse]

So sad RIP Dan

[swbarnett]

My wife is not a member here (too busy finishing a PhD) but she wished me to express her condolences. She rides between Auckland and Hamilton quite regularly and this incident affected her deeply (as I'm sure it has all of us).

If we can we'd be glad to be part of any procession in honour of a fellow biker taking out way before his time.

[LilSel]

I am saddened to hear this tragic news.
My thoughts are with family & friends & fellow bikers riding at the time.

RIP dude

[mynameis]

Your suggesting that the frame failed on your sons bike causing the crash?

Comments of this nature directed to his grieving parents at this stage of time do no good to them nor anyone else around them. It does not help at all.

As suggested by Senior Mods (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=1255903&postcount=56)and Spank you might want to refrain from discussion as such.

Thanks.

[Matt_TG]

I cannot comprehend what the parents and family are going through and offer my deepest condolences.

So sad to lose someone so young :crybaby:

[jafar]

From accounts I have heard this is sure worth investigating.


from accounts i have heard from the witness also and from the bikes history. yes this is the cause in my opinion and is well worth being seriously looked into.

I do hope you are both wrong, if you are right then there are potentially thousands of riders out there on suspect frames.
An independant engineers inspection is needed before you can form an opinion mark as the facts have yet to become clear.
WW is right to have the bike inspected to find out if this was in fact the actual cause.
WW & family , I offer you my deepest sympathy.

[Daffyd]

Please allow me to also offer my condolences. Even though I am at the other end of the country this is still terrible news!
RIP Dan.

[Tonka]

Sincerest condolences to the family.
RIP mate

[Deano]

We never met but spoke in the chat room a few times. RIP bro.

Sincere condolences to family and friends.

[bugjuice]

so sorry to hear this. Didn't meet him in person, but read his posts
thoughts with his family and friends
rip mate

[WelshWizard]

Just to post a picture of Dan at Puke classic with his family and Norm White
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k303/back_fire/normandmyfamily2006.jpg

[Morcs]

Im gobsmacked.

RIP Dan.

Ill Miss you taking the piss outta me :(

[Colapop]

Far too young.

R.I.P.

[sporty03]

Sitting in Brunei reading all this. Hard to keep it dry.
As a father of a 20 year old I can only imagine what the parents must be feeling. To young, to soon. RIP.

[digsaw]

WW, I am gutted,this is every mom and dads nightmare,my heart go's out to you both,a really body blow indeed.
I am sure that all of us on CB net feel the same and if i could be of any help, you just ask. RIP to another biker. Dig

[SwanTiger]

Goodbye my brother, thank you for the rides and the company, and the late night exchanges of bike porn over MSN.

[RiderInBlack]

Fu*ken sad ta hear this. It is everything I fear when riding near "Cheese Cutters".
Well done Felix and Draco (have just finished seeing the TV3 clip).

My deepest condolences ta Family and close friends.

Feel for ya Felix. Would have been so hard being there. Make sure ta look after ya self and to let others help ya through this. Wish I was down there for ya, but know there are many here that would be happy ta give ya someone ta lean on.

RIP Bark Fire, may ya ride in peace.

[aff-man]

First time I met him we were the "way pointers" on a Noob ride. Had fun hoofing to the next points. That was untill we got side tracked taking photo's of each other going round corners or throwing rocks at pillars. Bet the ride organisers were wondering where we had got to :shifty:

Did a few coro loops with him and was always fun giving each other shit.

Another young lad taken to soon.:no:

RIP man.

[kiwifruit]

24.03.06

first kb ride
first time i met Dan, loosebruce, aff-man, beyond, finn, weasil, zed, zxer and others
coro loop

[bandit_girl]

Condolences to the family and friends.

For backfire:

Riding with pride

Up and over beautiful mountains
Along rivers lazy curves
Out and over golden straights
These beautiful sites my visual fate
Winds pounding and pelting
Away at my soul
That massaging and cleansing
While I ride, my goal
And every breath sustaining my life
Is seasoned sweetly with natures own spice
Alone with thought on this endless pave
But far from lonely, hence a wave
From another new Brother or Sister to be
Out on their bikes, spirits so free
Live to ride and ride to live
And of yourself to others give
Ride through the rain, ride in the sun
Just ride, ride, ride
Until your ass says your done

[terbang]

RIP there young rider, condolences to your family for their loss too.
Bruce

[Street Gerbil]

RIP fallen biker...

[Kittyhawk]

RIP.

Dont know what to say. Im sad.

big :hug:to family.

[Indiana_Jones]

R.I.P Mate

Far too young :no:

The scariest part is I was talking to someone at my engineering firm about those bloody cheese cutters the other week

-Indy

[BarBender]

RIP Dan.
R

[robertydog]

Very sorry to hear.
RIP fellow biker.

[Korumba]

I read this whole thread earlier today, got a bit weepy when I read Dans Dads first post.
But could not think of any thing else to post except RIP so thought I would wait a bit until there was something else, did not know what it would be, but just opened an email with this in it and thought wow this says it all.

Written by Andy Rooney, a man who has the gift of saying so much with so few words.

“I've learned.... That when you're in love, it shows.

I've learned.... That just one person saying to me, 'You've made my day!' makes my day.

I've learned.... That having a child fall asleep in your arms is one of the most peaceful feelings in the world.

I've learned.... That being kind is more important than being right.

I've learned.... That you should never say no to a gift from a child.

I've learned.... That I can always pray for someone when I don't have the strength to help him in some other way.

I've learned.... That no matter how serious your life requires you to be, everyone needs a friend to act goofy with.

I've learned.... That sometimes all a person needs is a hand to hold and a heart to understand.

I've learned.... That life is like a roll of toilet paper. The closer it gets to the end, the faster it goes.

I've learned.... That we should be glad God doesn't give us everything we ask for.

I've learned.... That money doesn't buy class.

I've learned.... That it's those small daily happenings that make life so spectacular.

I've learned... That under everyone's hard shell is someone who wants to be appreciated and loved.

I've learned.... That to ignore the facts does not change the facts.

I've learned.... That when you plan to get even with someone, you are only letting that person continue to hurt you.

I've learned.... That love, not time, heals all wounds.

I've learned.... That the easiest way for me to grow as a person is to surround myself with people smarter than I am.

I've learned.... That everyone you meet deserves to be greeted with a smile.

I've learned.... That no one is perfect until you fall in love with them.

I've learned.... That opportunities are never lost; someone will take the ones you miss.

I've learned.... That when you harbor bitterness, happiness will dock elsewhere.

I've learned.... That I wish I could have told my Mom that I love her one more time before she passed away.

I've learned.... That one should keep his words both soft and tender, because tomorrow he may have to eat them.

I've learned.... That a smile is an inexpensive way to improve your looks.

I've learned.... That I can't choose how I feel, but I can choose what I do about it.

I've learned.... That when your newly born grandchild holds your little finger in his little fist, that you're hooked for life.

I've learned.... That everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but all the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it.”






Now I can say RIP.

[onearmedbandit]

r.i.p. ....

[UberRhys]

RIP fellow biker.

[Fat Tony]

Tragic. RIP fella

[Conquiztador]

Condolences to the family and friends.

[Toaster]

Just watched the tv3 video of the site..... so very very sad :(

[Dave-]

Rest in peace dude.

[Guided_monkey]

RIP fellow rider.....

[trumpy]

RIP young man..................condolnces to your family

[Sanx]

Only met Dan once - one one of the rice runs - but he seemed like a genuinely nice guy. That this tragedy has happened is sobering indeed. To family and friends; I wish you all long life.

[manwithav8]

fellow rider.

I didn't know Dan but this is hits home to easily.
Condolences to the family.

[Coaster]

I didn't know Dan but would like to send my best wishes to your family. It doesn't matter how old your children are when they die - 21 or 61 - children are supposed to outlive their parents.

From the thumbnails posted it looked like he lived life to the full and died doing the thing he loved most - I hope that with time your pain eases.

RIP fellow kiwibiker

[Blairos]

So sorry to hear of this needless loss - RIP Rider - condolences to friends & Family...

Looks like the cheese cutters need to go. They always give me the shits, riding near them...

[Mumbles]

I know I'm late in posting but had a good think about this before posting
:(
A lot of us didn’t know Dan (me included), but in our minds we are all brothers and sisters, with our love of biking and the community spirit like we have on KB and other motorcycling web sites. We share a common secret, it’s like every time we pass another motorcyclist and we give the old wave or nod, we each know that secret that makes us who we are. The challenge, the thrill and the respect of what we can do on our bike is the reason we ride, the only downfall is the risk we take every time we get out on our machines. I never like reading the posts of what is said about fallen members, but then there are always those great memories of time spent, jokes had, I just give my wife and daughter the extra hug and kiss and pray that I am never one of the fallen.

To Dan’s family thanks for sharing with Dan “that secret” and letting him live, so that we in turn could share with Dan through meeting him on rides or reading his posts, by all accounts he has done himself and family proud.
:niceone:

Stay safe everyone
Nick

[Gazzar]

R.I.P fellow biker...

[brit-bloke]

So sad to hear...Rest In Peace and may God have a shiney new ride waiting for you in heaven.

[Gixxer peter]

Did not know Dan. but as a Father of a 4th generation bike rider ,I can not imagine what is going through his parents minds right now.
So sad to hear of this.
Peter.

[Scorpygirl]

RIP Dan. I didn't know you but I hope you ride free in that great highway in the sky. Condolences to family and friends at this very sad time.

:(:weep:

[007XX]

RIP....

Although I didn't know him, it doesn't hit home any less.
My most sincere condolences to the family.

Please ask should there anything we can do. It would not be the first time the KB community helps a rider's family in a time of need.

May you ride forever young one...

[Riff Raff]

I wasn't going to post anything in here because I didn't know Dan and it might come across as meaningless. And then I realised that his death has affected every single one of us, whether we knew him or not. Your life has been taken away far too soon, and my heart goes out to all your loved ones. RIP.

[cowboy]

My condolences to family & friends
R.I.P

[SPman]

An appalling end to a young chap I can just remember.
My condolences to his family and friends, and Felix, who was at the scene.
Let us hope some good can come out of such a tragic event.

[placidfemme]

RIP ... Condolences to family and friends.

[MSTRS]

I know I'm late in posting but had a good think about this before posting
:(
A lot of us didn’t know Dan (me included), but in our minds we are all brothers and sisters, with our love of biking and the community spirit like we have on KB and other motorcycling web sites. We share a common secret, it’s like every time we pass another motorcyclist and we give the old wave or nod, we each know that secret that makes us who we are. The challenge, the thrill and the respect of what we can do on our bike is the reason we ride, the only downfall is the risk we take every time we get out on our machines. I never like reading the posts of what is said about fallen members, but then there are always those great memories of time spent, jokes had, I just give my wife and daughter the extra hug and kiss and pray that I am never one of the fallen.

To Dan’s family thanks for sharing with Dan “that secret” and letting him live, so that we in turn could share with Dan through meeting him on rides or reading his posts, by all accounts he has done himself and family proud.
:niceone:

Stay safe everyone
Nick

Eloquently put. Reflects my thoughts too.

[SlowHand]

Goodbye mate, you really were a character. Well wise and mature beyond your years.
Your views on life and the surroundings always made me wonder if you were really just 1 year younger than me. Vocal when needed to be, and silent when not.
I'll miss you, buddy.

[Al]

RIP brother....

Condolences and thoughts to family and friends

Take care

Al&Thea

[DemonWolf]

RIP

Condolences to friends, family and loved ones

[R6_kid]

I was talking to Dan on msn on Friday night... as per usual he was linking me to videos and helping me to waste my evening as equally as he was. If I'd known i wouldn't have another chance to talk to him I would have made the conversation a lot more meaningful.

Dan always struck me as calm and collected, he never rode in anger and rarely let testosterone get to him. I'll always remember him as the chilled out dude with a dodgy sparkle in his eye, but maybe that was only when he was looking at me... heh, gonna miss ya bro.

[WelshWizard]

Sorry folks my lawyer has asked me to remove this link due to a turn of events he is dealing with regarding this matter

[RiderInBlack]

Sad that ya son has gone mate

[Gwinch]

R.I.P Dan.

The first KBer I ever met, now he's no longer with us. sigh. :crybaby:

[shafty]

It always sends a shudder down my spine when I hear of a fellow Rider being lost; Our prayers thoughts and positive vibes to Family for your loss from Shafty and GoGal

[WelshWizard]

Edit on instruction of My Lawyer who was also Daniels

[MyGSXF]

So terribly sorry to hear of the loss of this young man & fellow biker.. :(

Deepest condolances, love & prayers to his family & friends... :grouphug:

R I P Back Fire... ride free forever....

[sels1]

Add my condolences also. Tragic to lose another member of the KB family.
My thoughts and best wishes go out to his family and friends.

[Karma]

just remembered a classic story as I was out walking...

Dan and I work in a call centre together, and after he came out of training he was on the opposite end of the floor to where I sit. We used to wind each other up on MSN for a bit, but one time I managed to find a WAV (audio) file on the network of Chewbacca from Star Wars doing his WWARRRR noise.

I sent this over to Dan for a laugh, and within 3 seconds heard the noise of Chewbacca sounding out across the entire floor, he'd had the audio turned up full when opening the file... there must have been like 30-40 people working at the time, and everyone just stopped. I immediately burst out laughing to the point of nearly pissing myself, Dan was doing the same.

From that point on we both set it up as our TXT alert on our mobiles, and every time I get a TXT it reminds me of that time and brings a smile to my face.

I'll upload the audio clip when I find it, it's great.

[smoky]

Only for those who are interested

I know there are those who don't like any form of religion, so I posted else where and just posting a link here

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?p=1258627#post1258627

[Frenchy]

RIP

condolences to family and friends!

[Pex Adams]

rip.......

[Angusdog]

Rest in peace, and condolences to the family. Our thoughts are with you.

[Krayy]

... Bugger ...

[flame]

RIP
Condolences to all of 'Razya's family and friends

[Kornholio]

Have met Dan on a few Coro rides, was a nice guy :( ...RIP dude and condolences to his family :|

[poplar_pete]

R.I.P Condolences to the family.

[u4ea]

Ride the eternal highway mate....

U4ea

[Insanity_rules]

Deepest condolences.

[blackkatana]

Condolenses to family and friends, RIP young man.

[Farab]

RIP, condolences to Dan's family...

[emaN]

WW and all of Dan's family, I'm so sorry you're having to go through this
From the stories & comments people have been posting up, it sounds like your son touched people's lives for all the right reasons.

Please know that there are loads of us here thinking of you and many praying for strength for you.
I wish I'd been on Coro loops/rides he'd been on and been able to meet him.

[Jonny Rotten]

RIP Dan..........your ex k5 gsxr gave me lots of good memmories.

it was always good to ride with ya

[The Joka]

I didnt know Dan, but reading through this post but shivers through my entire body...

WW & Family you should be very proud of such an amazing 21 year old, he has clearly touched so many people. He obviously was someone that loved life, and lived it to the full - hold on to those memories!

As per your request I will do what I can about the 'cheese cutters' and would be proud to ride in any procession for Dan!

Just let us know when and where!

My deep condolences - Phil 021 520 639!

[raster]

Where is Weston Rd, Laingholm, Can't find it in any maps.

[Karma]

Where is Weston Rd, Laingholm, Can't find it in any maps.


http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Huia+Rd,+Auckland+0604,+New+Zealand&sll=29.82562,-83.57643&sspn=0.434259,0.6427&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,-36.978492,174.606370&ll=-36.965221,174.643092&spn=0.024997,0.040169&z=15&om=1

[_intense_]

most sincere sympathies to family & friends.

[raster]

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&time=&date=&ttype=&q=Huia+Rd,+Auckland+0604,+New+Zealand&sll=29.82562,-83.57643&sspn=0.434259,0.6427&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=0,-36.978492,174.606370&ll=-36.965221,174.643092&spn=0.024997,0.040169&z=15&om=1

Thanks Karma!

[smudge]

And didn't make the connection. I did not know Dan but I worked with his mum and we would talk about bikes and stuff, I only found out today that K was his mum. My condolences to the family.

[WelshWizard]

To all who attended and posted messages.
Kat Mel and myself wish to thank you all for being there either in person or in spirit.

Kat Melanie and John


WW
Dans Dad

[quickbuck]

Just found this thread yesterday (and it has taken until now to read through it all) .
Been out of the loop for a while.
I heard of the accident on the news, and was a bit shocked.... to say the least.

RIP Dan, even though I didn't know you, this still gives me a BIG reality check.

WW, family, and friends , my heart felt condolences go out to you all.

QB

[slickaz]

RIP buddy, didnt know you, but looks like you had alot of love here..God Bless.

[Karma]

and finally from me, just because I know it'd piss him off and now I can post without fear of escalation.

[MyGSXF]

What a gorgeous young man!!! :yes:

[WelshWizard]

and finally from me, just because I know it'd piss him off and now I can post without fear of escalation.

Any more, then it's payback for all the times he put Roy Orberson "Stand by me" on at full volume when I was watch or trying to watch the news.
Sorry its seem picture is to large for it to remain so if you want to see it goto

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s28/JGLE/danandfelixandalan.jpg

one of the few we have

[sunhuntin]

what an awesome photo... thank you for sharing it. :cool:

[WelshWizard]

finally worked out how to resize it

<a href="http://s148.photobucket.com/albums/s28/JGLE/?action=view&current=danandfelixandalan640x480.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s28/JGLE/danandfelixandalan640x480.jpg" border="0" alt="Dan with Zapf and Gremlin"></a>
hopefully this is within specs

[Gremlin]

finally worked out how to resize it
did you forget that felix and I spend at least half of every day staring at a screen, sorting some various issue?

Or I could send you some software that will easily resize pics for ya (batches if needed)

Still a nice pic... I made Felix do one like that... he likes to be behind the camera normally...

[WelshWizard]

did you forget that felix and I spend at least half of every day staring at a screen, sorting some various issue?

Or I could send you some software that will easily resize pics for ya (batches if needed)

Still a nice pic... I made Felix do one like that... he likes to be behind the camera normally...



Found VSO image resier on Dan computer, never really been into this modern stuff where you don't have a negative and an enlarger, Ah well we all have to come into the 21st century sometime I suppose, it was bad enough getting used to the 20th one:rolleyes:

even so its a great picture of you lot, and is now set as my desktop, so I have to look at your mug every time I start it up:eek:

[skidMark]

It's a good pic, i see it everyday because i keep his funeral booklet on my bedside table.

[Kornholio]

Found this one the other day...

[Quasievil]

You might be interested to note that Back Fire/Rayze was very active on www.sportsbike.co.nz (http://www.sportsbike.co.nz) (if you didnt know already) he probably posted on there more than KB, not that it means anymore than if you want to read his posts there is alot there.

cheers
Quasi

[CB ARGH]

He'll be riding his dream bike up there somewhere... with free gas, always a bonus.

Rest in peace mate, and all of my thoughts go out to family and friends.

[Big Dog]

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/123673-To-all-friends-of-Backfire-Rayza