The amazing Boy Racer Poll!

[SPORK]

So, when you are on the road (bike or cage) and you see a boy racer, what are your feelings about him/her?

Personly I feel sorry for them, but dislike them at the same time. :puke:

So, go ahead, get a load off your chest. :buggerd:

[Blakamin]

:brick: :brick: :brick: :brick: :brick:

If you are gunna do a cage... at least have a V8!!!

[SPORK]

:brick: :brick: :brick: :brick: :brick:

If you are gunna do a cage... at least have a V8!!!
Or a V10? :D Dodge, anyone?

My dad's V8 is fun though, especially burning all the BR's off at the lights :)

[dhunt]

It's sometimes quite funny too watch them go round and round and round and round and round the square (You get the picture). Can't help feel sorry for them.

[pipeman]

You no I realy like the stupid ones (old dunggers with the home job mods)
it always cracks me up.

But the thing not to forget is we have all got a little boyracer in us :yes:

[What?]

I mentioned in a (much) earlier thread about a boy racer in a loud-as Datsun 1200 with about $6K worth of wheels/tyres on it that I blew into the weeds with my (bog standard) Mazda ute. Just gotta laugh...
What I HATE is rotaries, booming stereos, suspension cut too short to fit shock absorbers in and welded diffs. Rule 303 for them, I reckon.

As for the bit of boy racer in all of us - I am a street sleeper fan myself. Have been ever since I saw a 71 Valiant running a 440 magnum with no external give-aways other than some slightly wide tyres. Well, they were considered wide in 1975!

[Two Smoker]

I am also a street sleeper fan..... I went looking for boyracers last friday night when i was on the CBR1100, very dissappointed to see noone wanting a race :( .......

[Gixxer 4 ever]

So, when you are on the road (bike or cage) and you see a boy racer, what are your feelings about him/her?

Personly I feel sorry for them, but dislike them at the same time. :puke:

So, go ahead, get a load off your chest. :buggerd:Try staying in a pub or hotel when away on work, it is not funny when you get no sleep. In fact it is not uncommon for me to say FUCKEM SHOOTEM at midnight or later in the morning. :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Bonez]

The lower the car the better veiw I have over the top :rolleyes: Also these dude and dudesses hang around the city which is fine by me. The misses gave some a tounge lashing a few days ago for cutting in on the inside of her Civic in town, twits. Most of the ones I've seen on the open road have been having conversations with the nice men with the flashing red n blue lights or fallen off the road (seems they don't handle corners at high speed too well). :bash:

[rodgerd]

As for the bit of boy racer in all of us - I am a street sleeper fan myself. Have been ever since I saw a 71 Valiant running a 440 magnum with no external give-aways other than some slightly wide tyres. Well, they were considered wide in 1975!

That's what I liked about the original Legacy GT and GT wagon. Apart from a low-profile slot in the bonnet and the "GT" badge, the first your typical boof-head Commodore owner knew about them was watching one recede into the difference. *Hate* the new Imprezas.

Also *hate* the ternd to the "Pimp My Ride" style of dressing a car up and making no actual performance modifications.

[Drunken Monkey]

That's what I liked about the original Legacy GT and GT wagon. Apart from a low-profile slot in the bonnet and the "GT" badge, the first your typical boof-head Commodore owner knew about them was watching one recede into the difference. *Hate* the new Imprezas.


What do you "hate" about new Imprezza's = just the look? Ever driven an MY02 WRX or later _hard_ ? Amazing cars. We drive many different demos, from Lianas (reasonably priced car!), commodores, just about the enitre range of mitsubishis (including light commercials), falcons (including a pre-prod XR-6 Turbo), focuses (focii?), z cars, Rx's, remeura wank-tanks, the list goes on. I have driven few (if any) 'stock' cars that handle so well. You can be a totally ham-fisted fool, drive waaay too fast and still keep the buggers on the tarmac. Although a little small for daily use, I rate them as one of the best (new) cars I've ever driven. But if it is jsut they way they look that puts you off, then yeah, they ain't pretty...

[rodgerd]

What do you "hate" about new Imprezza's = just the look?

Yup. I loved the Legacy "Q-cars"; I hate the "look at me, I've got a fucking huge bonnet scoop and pink Subaru Technica stickers everywhere" of the high performance Impreza.


Ever driven an MY02 WRX or later _hard_ ? Amazing cars.

Nah. Not likely to, either (and I'm realistic enough to admit that pretty much any modern performance car is a way better car than I am a driver...). I'd feel like a plonker in one, unless I was buying it to rally. And they'd be an absolute ticket magnet.

[SPORK]

Ahh yes, I was in UH the other day, and saw the same cars drive by (was at the bus stop) no less then 2 times each. All had booming stereos, custom wheels, and dumbass drivers.

Really makes you wonder where the world is going... :D

[Motoracer]

They still have more car hoes than we have biker chix, so you can't really feel sorry for em.

Although, it was good to see good numbers of Kiwibiker females on the Waikato Rally! :niceone:

[MOTOXXX]

i grew out of the whole boy racer thing but i never did get into it that much.

The lower hutt car park cracks me up tho. How fukin boring is that. I went a few times when i was younger. U just sit around watching people drive past for a couple hours and then go do laps round town. Personaly id rather go out to a bar or a club.

the thing that annoys me is that people stereotype me as a boy racer because i have 17" mags, large exhaust and lowerd springs.

Car hoes aint so great. They get realy annoying after a while and wish they would piss off.

:beer:

[MacD]

I don't care how powerful the engine is, a Honda Civic is still the same car that my Mother-in-law drives to the supermarket! ;)

[Sensei]

I live about 5min from the local Burnout road & get the Little fuck wanker's dropping diesel all over the road where I go home on so they can get their car's to do burn out's .
Not to good for the bike when you come home at night & ride through it & nearly bin it . So took my 355chev HZ down there one night & waited till some turned up then backed my Ute right up to the front of one of their Evo thingy & showed them how it was done with out the help of Diesel . Left Two fucken big holes in the road for about 20m as well as gravel blasted the car I was in front of .Funny thing they haven't been back there again.
:2guns: SENSEI

[spudchucka]

You need another field in the poll section of this thread.

*Now where did I leave that ticket book!*

[dhunt]

You need another field in the poll section of this thread.

*Now where did I leave that ticket book!*
:killingme :killingme

:Offtopic: Just curious what age group do you hand the most tickets out to.

[Coyote]

Car hoes aint so great. They get realy annoying after a while and wish they would piss off.

:beer:
Damn right. Since I'm stuck at school, we have to live with them roaming the school. They also gang up with the homie dickheads and they all make up the rules to be cool, and their rules normally state if your not them, your not cool. I dont wanna be cool or anything, but I just hate how they do that, and make everyone else time harder.

Next time you see a homie (you can normally tell if they are a homie by their clothing, hoodies with some brand like USA, also homies have a stupid strut)
RUN THEM OVER! or at least try and give them the scare of their lives.

[Storm]

But they look so scungy and unwashed I might get filth on my bike.
Must admit, I'd love to have all that money to throw away on a car just so I could drive in town , and around in circles endlessly. But really, :whocares:

[Jackrat]

[QUOTE=Jackrat]Don't have any real feelings about em'
Just other motorists doing strange shit.
As long as they don't get in the way,they can be quite amusing :msn-wink:

[scumdog]

Luv it when mt 'old tech' F100 can do a 13sec 1/4 mile - and only uses two gears! boy-racers can't believe it as most have used 4 out of 5 gears by the end of the 1/4 and have taken out all the seats, the left hand headlight and spare tyre - and my effort was leaving my tool-box at the pits. :msn-wink:

A giant bonnet-scoop, wheelie-bars and a set of 305 X 15" rear tyres turn more heads than ANY boy racer-type car - that and 7litres of V* rumble and a ground-hugging stance clintches it!! :blah:

[Coyote]

http://maddox.xmission.com/oldsloco5.jpg
Maddox is great
http://maddox.xmission.com/civic.html

[The Pastor]

http://maddox.xmission.com/oldsloco5.jpg
Maddox is great
http://maddox.xmission.com/civic.html
Yet when I quote maddox i get flamed :S But yeah, I like there shiney engine bays :)

Boy racers are OK, just if they only race at the drags instead of the streets, I don't mind the odd burnout at the lights just a bit of a show. I do mind those really loud exhausts that makes the car sound like its going 200 when its going 10.

[scumdog]

http://maddox.xmission.com/oldsloco5.jpg
Maddox is great
http://maddox.xmission.com/civic.html

What a wannabe, take off the fancy rims ( I like them) and what have you got? - something that looks like an '80s G.M. X-body with commercial flames!! BFD!!! :sick:

[Coyote]

By the way, the car was a photoshopped image by maddox. He did it as a piss take. Someone asked what car has he got, and he showed them this.

[ching_ching]

the thing that annoys me is that people stereotype me as a boy racer because i have 17" mags, large exhaust and lowerd springs. :beer:

Do you also wear your cap backwards per chance? :spudwhat:

[The Pastor]

And have an obnoxiously loud sound system?

[SuperDave]

Should've voted that I hate them now that i think of it, they make too much damn noise with those stupid exhausts, and waste petrol. Last time i was in Auckland city on Saturday night, I must have seen the same line of cars pass me over 10 times <_<

I just wish my FXR had more power, then I could waste the boy racers in my street with their hotted up glanzas and pulsars, then they would stop thinking their cars are so flash.

Yay, my first post.

[SPORK]

With repeditive 'beats' blasting out at unholy hours of the morning? You know, the boomb boomb booomb bbooooooooomb booomb booomb booomb bbooooooooomb stuff?

[SPORK]

Should've voted that I hate them now that i think of it, they make too much damn noise with those stupid exhausts, and waste petrol. Last time i was in Auckland city on Saturday night, I must have seen the same line of cars pass me over 10 times <_<

I just wish my FXR had more power, then I could waste the boy racers in my street with their hotted up glanzas and pulsars, then they would stop thinking their cars are so flash.

Yay, my first post.
Hey, welcome aboard! I'm sure you will get a nice 'Wari Welcome' if you post up a thread in the New Member Speak forum!

Here is a free sample

:moon:

[MOTOXXX]

na i dont wear a cap backwards. but my stereo is somewhat loud but i dont
have it on full noise so people stare at me . :calm:

[Ms Piggy]

They make me laugh. With their pssshhhttttt's and doff, duff, daff sounds systems. We saw one going through the square in Palmerston on Sunday afternoon (yes afternoon, not evening) who could hardly see over the dash of the car. We decided he was either a dwarf or he had sold the drivers seat to get some mo bling fo tha ride.

[SuperDave]

HA HA, thanks madcat, you're so generous :sly:

[SuperDave]

Just thought of it, have you ever noticed there are differnt classes of boy racers? I noticed it at school yesterday, the white guys usually will have a relatively cheap hatchback of some sort while the asian guys will have an expensive coupe.

Does anyone know how much a difference those big exhausts that hang precariously close to the ground and fit a whole fist into actually make to the performance? Apart from the illusion of feeling like your are going faster...

[Mr Skid]

I just wish my FXR had more power, then I could waste the boy racers in my street with their hotted up glanzas and pulsars, then they would stop thinking their cars are so flash.

Challenge them to a race across town at 6pm. Then they will realise the error of their ways.

Let it be known that the fxr is a lean mean lane splitting machine.
:rockon:

[ZorsT]

what do those pssht things do anyway...? I have notised that they seem to dump all the compressed air in the turbo, and then have a sudden shortage of air for their next gear... (second post for me)
personally, i dont mind the boy racers, as long as they piss off so they stop annoying people, dont they realise that if they go where no-one is around, people wouldn't give a shit, and then everyone would be happy. If going fast in cars is your thing, go dodge or chev, when I was in canada in July, I drove my uncles chev ute, produces around 350 HP, and 512 ft/lb of torque, and it was a diesel!!, now thats power :Punk:

[spudchucka]

:killingme :killingme

:Offtopic: Just curious what age group do you hand the most tickets out to.
I've never thought about that but probably the 18 - 30'ish age group, they are usually the ones behaving like half-breeds, very broadly speaking. I prefer to ticket "stupid" rather than a particular age demographic.

[NordieBoy]

personally, i dont mind the boy racers, as long as they piss off so they stop annoying people, dont they realise that if they go where no-one is around, people wouldn't give a shit, and then everyone would be happy.

As long as they keep off the Moutere Highway, Mot Valley, West Bank and Takaka Hill roads as them's biking roads.

[NordieBoy]

Does anyone know how much a difference those big exhausts that hang precariously close to the ground and fit a whole fist into actually make to the performance? Apart from the illusion of feeling like your are going faster...

Reducing back-pressure, gasses flow more freely, more revs and less torque.

See any rally cars with big exhausts lately?

The amount of BR's cruizing around with the wheels totally out of alignment and the steel belts showing through the tyres...
:mad:

[Stinger]

what do those pssht things do anyway...? I have notised that they seem to dump all the compressed air in the turbo, and then have a sudden shortage of air for their next gear

They're supposed to reduce the lag (that gap in acceleration when the turbo is winding hard, then you change gear). But there's argument about whether it actually does any good... plus it sounds daft.

[Mr Skid]

They're supposed to reduce the lag (that gap in acceleration when the turbo is winding hard, then you change gear). But there's argument about whether it actually does any good... plus it sounds daft.

The sad thing is that the noise is created by the compressed air being vented to the atmosphere. On Most/any/all/some factory turbo cars, the pressure is vented back into the airbox, thus no wanky psshht noise.

I saw an ad for a blow off valve a while back. It had a trumpet on it to amplify the phssst, but was advertised as having a 'stealth' mode where it didn't make any noise, and a 'race' mode where it made the familar Friday/Saturday night noise.

Race mode? Huh? I guess it illustrates the flawed association between noise and performance that many of these boys and girls harbour. :wacko:

(Not to say all loud things are bad, I've never met a V twin I didn't like :banana: )

[loosebruce]

I live about 5min from the local Burnout road & get the Little fuck wanker's dropping diesel all over the road where I go home on so they can get their car's to do burn out's .
Not to good for the bike when you come home at night & ride through it & nearly bin it . So took my 355chev HZ down there one night & waited till some turned up then backed my Ute right up to the front of one of their Evo thingy & showed them how it was done with out the help of Diesel . Left Two fucken big holes in the road for about 20m as well as gravel blasted the car I was in front of .Funny thing they haven't been back there again.
:2guns: SENSEI


Reeeeeessssppppeccct. Can't beat dem cubes.

I don't mind em really, the ones that are in it for performance no problem at all, the wankers that fit a 5 inch tip to there 1981 Mitsi Mirage 1.3L powerhouse, WTF are they thinking. Like everything there is a line to be crossed, only seems to be a shitload that cross the stupidy with a car line.

If ya gonna make some noise and it ain't outta something with 2 wheels, please make sure you got 8 cylinders or more making it.

[What?]

I prefer to ticket "stupid" rather than a particular age demographic.
Do you fancy transferring to Tauranga, Spud? Of course, you'd be a fish out of water here, but some of us would appreciate the attitude!

[scumdog]

Reducing back-pressure, gasses flow more freely, more revs and less torque.

See any rally cars with big exhausts lately?

The amount of BR's cruizing around with the wheels totally out of alignment and the steel belts showing through the tyres...
:mad:

Yep, see it heaps, they lower the rear of a car with I.R.S. and exceed the amount of camber adjustment in the suspension so just drive around with that sad-ass 'knocked-knee' look, unfortunately apart from looking stupid it also allows the inside edge of the tyre to take most of the load and wear faster, outside edge (the part you can see) looks o.k. but inside can be 'down to the canvas' (old school terminology) and bloody dangerous. :eek:

[Fryin Finn]

OOh err I have to admit I have a sorta boy racers car - I bought it that way. A Honda prelude Vtec with lowered suspension and fat 17" 3 spoke wheels. Momo steering wheel and pedals and a fancy anti sway bar that was given to me. But it has a stock exhaust and the stereo is crap. I never go cruising in it and if one of those 'boy racers' fancies a race I will kick there arse :angry2:
but If I lose I'll get my bike out. :finger:

[JohnBoy]

i don't mind em. cause when i moved to hamilton the boy racers up here don't seem to understand the concept of power to weight!!
i take it upon myself to educate the waikato public :ride:

[vifferman]

I have some respect for the cars that are modded to actually improve them, but most of the Boy Racer mods are just for Wank Factor™, to impress other guys (does it??) and attract chicks. Everyone knows that there's a whole breed of people who are irresistably attracted to the "ooonse ooonse boom-da-boom" noises and then dazzled by the bling when they get close enough. Surely you must have seen these guys cruising up and down around areas populated by chicks, then stopping once the car has been totally covered by nubile young girlies, then scraping off the ones they don't want and sticking the rest in the back seat? (Heh.. sticking... unintentional pun. :msn-wink: )
The "PSSSHHT" is the blow-off valve clearing unwanted chickies, tweenies and pimple-faced confused male teens off the sides of the car. :whistle:

Back to Reality? The big-bore exhausts don't work on anything other than large-capacity engines, and in most cases (especially turbos) actually decrease the performance. Some back pressure is needed for low to mid-range performance and proper operation of the turbos. Real performance cars have extractors, carefully tuned for the engine, not random bits of stainless steel designed to convert power into noise. Real performance cars have suspension systems designed to improve handling, not make them ride like a shopping cart and make them handle like a tractor.

We used to have a houseful of young asian students a few doors down from us, all with big-bore equiped Pieces'o'Crap™ (all gutless automatics too, of course. All Drone and No Go). Sadly, they finished their studies and moved on before I got around to paying them a 2 AM visit to improve their big bores with a can of expanding gap filler...:whistle:

[Drunken Monkey]

Back to Reality? The big-bore exhausts don't work on anything other than large-capacity engines, and in most cases (especially turbos) actually decrease the performance. Some back pressure is needed for low to mid-range performance and proper operation of the turbos.


Can you back up that statement with some engineering facts & figures? All the race car builders and engine tuners I know (Joe Kyle, Andy Culpin, amongst others) have said differently. They aren't hobbyists, they're professionals.

[scumdog]

Can you back up that statement with some engineering facts & figures? All the race car builders and engine tuners I know (Joe Kyle, Andy Culpin, amongst others) have said differently. They aren't hobbyists, they're professionals.

Most times there will be a BIT of an improvement but you would need a dyno to notice it.
Some engine management systems can't handle the drop in back pressure and the engine will run lean and LOSE power.

Putting a big-yawn exhaust onto stock exhaust maniflds is a bit of a waste as the benefits of the supposedly free-flowing big pipe if cancelled out by the utra restrictive manifold.
It's right up there with throwing away the stock air-filter and fitting a 'performance' pod-type filter, IF there is any improvement I doubt any human could tell! the only benefit would be to the filter manufacturers pocket.!! :laugh:

[Drunken Monkey]

Putting a big-yawn exhaust onto stock exhaust maniflds is a bit of a waste as the benefits of the supposedly free-flowing big pipe if cancelled out by the utra restrictive manifold.

I wouldn't disagree with that qualifier, however his original statement was made as a blanket statement.

Most modern (ie post 1990) street performance cars engine managements should be (ie, are) able to take a small advantage from a free-breathing exhaust or pod filter. There is quite a lot of room for the ignition advance to work with, especially when some of these cars have been designed to be able to be run on Japanese 100 octane pump gas. You don't need to go into additional complications of catalytic converters and extractors for my benefit, my point was a simpler one than that!

on your other point...

Dynos (empircal data) may be the only way to prove that you have small gains, but when people are 'in tune' with their vehicles, the seat-o-pants-ometer is oft able to pickup even the smallest/slightest changes.

I'm sure even you can tell when your bike's tyre pressures are not quite right (only a couple of psi off 'normal'), or if the carbs are running lean or rich - think about how small those jets are, or a drop in spark strength on one of your cylinders.

[Devil]

Most times there will be a BIT of an improvement but you would need a dyno to notice it.
Some engine management systems can't handle the drop in back pressure and the engine will run lean and LOSE power.

Putting a big-yawn exhaust onto stock exhaust maniflds is a bit of a waste as the benefits of the supposedly free-flowing big pipe if cancelled out by the utra restrictive manifold.
It's right up there with throwing away the stock air-filter and fitting a 'performance' pod-type filter, IF there is any improvement I doubt any human could tell! the only benefit would be to the filter manufacturers pocket.!! :laugh:
Yeah, as far as turbo cars go the exhaust mods only become of benefit when you're getting into non standard turbos and high boost.

Most of the time, these stupid fart-pipes are just the tip. Although there are more and more off the shelf muffler/tip combos, it makes shit all difference untill you start dealing with the manifold. Some models are exceptions as they are fairly restricted from the factory to deal with emission laws, rah de rah.

Loud dump valves piss me off. I have a twin turbo car but my ones (factory) are recirculating so you can only just hear a small 'fssh' when a gear change occurs.

The point of them isnt anti-lag, its to evacuate pressure build up when the throttle has been closed so that build up of air isnt forced into the engine.
Anti-lag is a different kettle of fish ( or is that FSSSHH!)

[Motoracer]

Also note that standard exhaust system on high performance Japanese cars make their bhp restricted to about 270 (I think). When my mate got his evo 7, all he had to do was put a free flow exhaust system and an airfilter to make his car put out 350hp on the dyno!!

[Devil]

Also note that standard exhaust system on high performance Japanese cars make their bhp restricted to about 270 (I think). When my mate got his evo 7, all he had to do was put a free flow exhaust system and an airfilter to make his car put out 350hp on the dyno!!
280BHP is the jap "gentlemens agreement".
I am having trouble believing that it was *just* the exhaust and filter that did that. He must have upped the boost as well.
eg. Mitsi factory upgraded Evo's (FQ300, FQ330, with 300 and 330HP respectively) required exhaust, chip and boost mods to get that power.

In saying that, 350hp is entirely believeable when you add upping the boost into the equation.

[Riff Raff]

Being in the profession of carting what's left of these boy racers to hospital when they've wasted themselves, their passengers or innocent bystanders, I have to say that every time one screams past me, it gives me the shits bigtime. Oh, and most of them seem to be arrogent little pusheads.

[Dr Bob]

I get pissed off with them dropping rubber on our street, noisy bstds. We are also 25 meters from a primary school on one side and 50 meters from a secondary school on the other, so there are a lot of kids walking around and some of the boy/girl racers drive inappropriately for the conditions.

We applied to have speed control devices fitted in our street but we were knocked back because the number of fatal or serious accidents are just below the threshold.

Whenever I get the chance I do record number plates, although it's such a hassle having to go into a police station to fill out a complaint form this kind of slows down my momentum. I kinda feel that throwing rocks would be a more direct and satisfying approach.

[Motoracer]

280BHP is the jap "gentlemens agreement".
I am having trouble believing that it was *just* the exhaust and filter that did that. He must have upped the boost as well.
eg. Mitsi factory upgraded Evo's (FQ300, FQ330, with 300 and 330HP respectively) required exhaust, chip and boost mods to get that power.

In saying that, 350hp is entirely believeable when you add upping the boost into the equation.I think he could have had a boost controler maybe...

[rodgerd]

Being in the profession of carting what's left of these boy racers to hospital when they've wasted themselves, their passengers or innocent bystanders, I have to say that every time one screams past me, it gives me the shits bigtime. Oh, and most of them seem to be arrogent little pusheads.

I'm sure there are more than a few who think the same way about riders. It's not like we don't have our share of people who think it's unreasonable they lost their license for 200 in a 100 zone here, for example...

[Devil]

I think he could have had a boost controler maybe...
Yeah sounds most likely.
I took an Evo 7 for a drive and was keen on buying one (but didnt, hmm methinks the gf/parents wouldnt have been too keen on me spending that much on a car :P). I enjoyed it very much, loved the sharp handling. Straight line power was so-so, id prefer to have more, but tis a very nice car.

[scumdog]

280BHP is the jap "gentlemens agreement".
I am having trouble believing that it was *just* the exhaust and filter that did that. He must have upped the boost as well.
eg. Mitsi factory upgraded Evo's (FQ300, FQ330, with 300 and 330HP respectively) required exhaust, chip and boost mods to get that power.

In saying that, 350hp is entirely believeable when you add upping the boost into the equation.

My F100 is about 420hp + and 530+ft/lb torque, 'only' does 13.9sec 1/4 mile but then it weighs about 1 & 1/2 Evos and has two wheel drive, still, it owes me half the price of one of the older Evos.

My h.p restriction is my wallet - want to do 10sec 1/4s, sponsors anybody??

[TonyB]

Some boy racers do a bloody nice job on their cars, I admire the way they take a car and make it into something special- must cost them a bloody fortune though, but then it's better than drinking all your money away. Note I say SOME- most of them just seem to make stupid modifications that are only going to upset the handling etc etc
I still think it's time something was done to restrict the type of car you're allowed to drive when you first get your licence. Lets face it, if young master boy racer or mummy and daddy can afford it, he can get a nice EVO or WRX the day he gets his licence. A few years back I was told that Crowe Sports had sold the quickest street car they had ever built up (up to that time) to a 16 year old kid- bought by his mum. Wonder how long it lasted....
The ones that make me laugh are the big boy racers. Has anyone seen the latest Commodore ad? It say's something like 'The Holden Commodore has won Bathurst 7 times in a row- must be an awesome car...' Come on Holden, the only thing 'Commodore' on that car is the body shell! The engine, the gearbox, the suspension (and suspension type), the brakes, the diff- none of them are standard! Same goes for the Falcon. Do the people who buy these things seriously believe in this crap?

[SPORK]

In a word, yes.

The general public will believe whatever they are told to believe. Anyone here not read 1984?

[Motu]

The body shell of the Commodore is Opel,always has been (where do you think the name came from) Opel does the development and the other GM divisions adapt it to their market.The GM3800 is a front drive US unit,the Commodore is the only rear drive application.It's global,the Holden has never been an Aussie car,no matter what they say,they are told what to do from higher up.

I get to drive some of these boy racer things,they are never more than cosmetics,the no springs bit is dangerous - going around a corner if you hit a bump the whole car is in the air.All totaly undrivable.

What's sad is these young guys haven't changed the plan for nearly 50 yrs,I remember young guys pulling the choke out on Morris Series Es to make it sound like a hot cam.I never got into all that shit of course - you didn't need to when you had a 38 Chev Coupe,just having a car like that elevated cool to another level.

[rodgerd]

The ones that make me laugh are the big boy racers. Has anyone seen the latest Commodore ad? It say's something like 'The Holden Commodore has won Bathurst 7 times in a row- must be an awesome car...' Come on Holden, the only thing 'Commodore' on that car is the body shell!

Actually, the real "come on Holden" is "but only after we banned the Japs and Jerries, because we couldn't actually build a car to beat Nissan or BMW."

[TonyB]

Actually, the real "come on Holden" is "but only after we banned the Japs and Jerries, because we couldn't actually build a car to beat Nissan or BMW."
:banana: Too bloody right! :niceone: When there's only 2 types of car in the race, you've got a 50% chance of winning. Nissan over did it a bit with the GTR, they prolly could have cleaned up using a ordinary Skyline turbo as the base car.

Motu, agree with you on all points. I remember in the late 80's the cool thing to do was lower the front and jack up the rear of your boyracer mobile. Never could understand that one either.

[rodgerd]

:banana: Too bloody right! :niceone: When there's only 2 types of car in the race, you've got a 50% chance of winning. Nissan over did it a bit with the GTR, they prolly could have cleaned up using a ordinary Skyline turbo as the base car.

Nah. Work to the maximum of the formula, that's what I say. Hell, they tried to cripple the Skylines with all the extra weight and they still won.

The best article I saw from that era was when one of the Aussie car rags took a race prepped group A Commodore and raced it around a circut against a stock, street legal GT-R. The GT-R still shat all over it, which tells you how weak the Commodore was.

Of course, they claim it's V8 Supercars, but they're too chicken to let Audi S8s, BMW M5s, or other 5 litre V8s compete, using that bullshit "Australian car" rule to lock them out.

[Hitcher]

Until the arrival of the Ford Territory (ignoring the engine), the only recent "all Australian car" was the Mitsubishi Diamante.

[Coyote]

Race mode? Huh? I guess it illustrates the flawed association between noise and performance that many of these boys and girls harbour. :wacko:

Harleys. Need I say more

As for the whole Ford and Holden thing, how 'Australian' are both of the cars? Probebly the only 'Australian' thing about them is that australians make a bid deal of them. They're not that great the V8 supercars anyway, they only barely manage 290 on the longets straight on Bathurst. 290? Poofs.

[Coldkiwi]

As an angry black man from the 80's might've said : "I PITY THE FOOL WITH A RICE CAR!"

Case in point, my old flatmate has spent at least 25-30,000 trying to get a GTO and drag 500Hp out of it in an effort to run 11 second quarter miles. In the mean time, I went out and bought a gixxer for 13K - I'm still waiting for him to turn up and prove to me how much faster he is! (he keeps nattering about rolling starts etc. etc., not sure why given that I have a clutch I can slip!).

If I really wanted to go fast, I'd have bought a 2nd hand Busa and whacked a turbo kit on it (minus the noisy valve!) and still paid less than 30k for one hell of a mind bend!

[aff-man]

i was just wondering where to option " gotta have em, kinda like possums, so you can go and hunt them" was???????? yeh i mean the guys who do up thier cars to go super fast for the rush usually havn't even been on a 250. Hell the 400 does a good enough job of giving me my jollies :yes: :yes: :banana: :lol:

[SPORK]

Well, CK, at least it was a GTO, they are pretty pimping, as far as cages go...

Sorry, got to get out of that frame of mind eh?


Going dirbiking tomorrow, and the next day :D

[Coldkiwi]

Gto's are nice enough... but why he insists that he's going to beat me in any form of acceleration I'm buggered if I know. what he SHOULD be doing is decrying my cornering ability (after all, its got dirty fat wheels and 4x4)... but unfortunately for him, my answer to that is 'lets see what your times are like around pukekohe' and then he gets all nervous, reckons he'd loose control and scratch his precious!

quite funny really. he wants to prove its worth at the drag strip! Its like entering a Chihuahua in a pulling contest against a Malamute!

[Coyote]

Nicest car I've seen has to be my old 1984 Ford Laser. All my friends agree, she's a beaut. If I get a pic, I'll post it on a new thread.

Madcat_'s gonna go hysterical now

[SPORK]

I think that the Justy beats the Laser, and my new Accord is even better

[scumdog]

Nicest car I've seen has to be my old 1984 Ford Laser. All my friends agree, she's a beaut. If I get a pic, I'll post it on a new thread.

Madcat_'s gonna go hysterical now

Old? old? - hell our NEWEST car by 20 years is Mrs SD's '84 Laser Ghia!!! :shit:

[NordieBoy]

I think that the Justy beats the Laser, and my new Accord is even better

http://motorsport.nelson.geek.nz/drag/Motueka-2003-11-01/cars/mvc-902x.jpg

That's the good thing about bracket racing :cool2:

[backfire]

My 16yr old son follows the boy racer thing but I just can't understand how a 4 cylinder piece of jap-crap is better than a V8 SS Commodore... :doh:

[Motoracer]

My 16yr old son follows the boy racer thing but I just can't understand how a 4 cylinder piece of jap-crap is better than a V8 SS Commodore... :doh:
Very few kids these days are prepared to pay the gas guzzling requirements of a V8 commodore (specially the older models!)

[backfire]

Very few kids these days are prepared to pay the gas guzzling requirements of a V8 commodore (specially the older models!)



What they don't spend on gas makes up for the constant maintenance on the motors and tyres I would expect... :yeah:

[Devil]

Or it might have something to do with the stupid insurance on "larger" engined cars.
When I was 19, I had to talk the insurance company into letting me have a mitsi magna station wagon. yes a MAGNA. 2.4 litres of putt putt.
"Oh, we dont really like younguns with engines over 2 litre".
FFS.
Oh wait, then theres the fun one, here I am now @ 23 years old, with a '97 VR4 (2.5 litre twin turbo) which I am insured for (of course), yet I cant get insured for my mothers(!!) '91 mr2, non turbo, automatic. A whole 150hp of gutless crap. "But its a sports car". HELLOO

[TonyB]

Gto's are nice enough... but why he insists that he's going to beat me in any form of acceleration I'm buggered if I know. what he SHOULD be doing is decrying my cornering ability (after all, its got dirty fat wheels and 4x4)... but unfortunately for him, my answer to that is 'lets see what your times are like around pukekohe' and then he gets all nervous, reckons he'd loose control and scratch his precious!

quite funny really. he wants to prove its worth at the drag strip! Its like entering a Chihuahua in a pulling contest against a Malamute!

I wouldn't worry about his cornering ability. Unless his GTO has aerodynamics to give it downforce, your GSXR will shit all over his GTO in the corners. As far as street based cars go, they have to have some downforce to match current motorcycle handling. This was proven a couple of years back by Motorcyclist magazine. They took a then top spec Corvette, a GSXR1000, and some guy called Kevin Schwantz. They let him hoon around Willow Springs (I think) with telemetry in both machines. The GSXR was obviously faster on the straights, but it was also significantly faster in the corners. Despite having LEAFSPRINGS in the rear (!) the Corvette apparently handles very well. They put the stickiest street legal rubber they could find on the Corvette, while the GSXR had the standard OEM rubber.

I don't consider myself to be anything but average in the corners. A while back a guy in a Porsche 944 tried to take me on going up a windy hill. I expected the 944 to leave me behind in the corners, but I was surprised to find that despite the fact that he was pushing hard enough to get his tyres squealing he was still slowing me down all the way through the corner. I didn't have to do anything more than cruise to be all over him.

A V8 Super car turns similar lap times to an Aussie Superbike, but then they have an aerodynamic package, so they can corner a bit quicker and brake harder and later.

[Stinger]

My 16yr old son follows the boy racer thing but I just can't understand how a 4 cylinder piece of jap-crap is better than a V8 SS Commodore... :doh:

Could be because $ for $, they're faster and actually go round corners.

[Devil]

I don't consider myself to be anything but average in the corners. A while back a guy in a Porsche 944 tried to take me on going up a windy hill. I expected the 944 to leave me behind in the corners, but I was surprised to find that despite the fact that he was pushing hard enough to get his tyres squealing he was still slowing me down all the way through the corner. I didn't have to do anything more than cruise to be all over him.
Strange, a 944 with decent suspension (getting a little old now) and good tyres should have given you quite a bit of trouble (depends on the model, anything less than a 944S and you'd kill it, but the S and S2 are great handling cars.)

If it was a plain 944, then yeah, id expect you to get round it, average suspension and not a lot of power.

I had a mint '87 944S all lined up for me to buy a few years ago but I couldnt get insured for it :(

Oh and the V8 Supercars are quite limited by their aerodynamic package and tyre size regulations. They'd get round quicker if they changed the rules (their front air dam is has a fixed angle thats the same for the fords and holdens, however the rear is adjustable but only up to a certain point. No other aerodynamic aids are allowed that arent on the prod car).
Tyres are too skinny for that power/torque

[SPORK]

Yup, after reading an insurance companies WhatToInsureAndWhatToBeLeftToSteal list i noticed that all that mattered is what the boy racer fag0rts thought was cool. Didn't matter how actually powerful it is, just as long as it is appealing to the BRFs... yay.

[justsomeguy]

HATE THE BASTARDS -

First off - I fit all the stereotypes of a boy racer (have the car and am the age) but I'm not one.

Most of them are a bunch of talentless sick fucks.

By the way a larger exhaust helps performance and is one of the cheapest and easiest (bolt on performance modifications) When I mean exhaust I mean the whole thing right through to the engine not a stupid Pams or Watties tin can stuck to the muffler with cellotape. As far as alloy wheels go - there is a limit - unless you are on a track. It's just show with these idiots. It is better to spend your money on better tyres and make sure everything is balanced and aligned.

As for the appeal of little Jap cars over V8's it all a matter of economics. V8 cars usually weigh more - so go through (wear out) their tyres, brakes - all the WoF stuff at a quicker rate. Also they comparatively cost more to run and fix - not to mention buy and the little Jap cars are also a whole lot more efficient in the amount of power they can extract from their engine - meaning you use all the power.

And then there is typical NZ country roads to consider. My MR2 will easily leave a commodore behind in the twisties (with both drivers of equal ability) - just like a good 400 will screw a big harley in the twisties.

What I hate the most about boy racers is their lack of judgement. Fools with no driving experience with the power to kill. Almost rear ended one bastard young guy today as he suddenly changed lanes in front of me without indicating or looking into his mirror. I (in a cage) had to drive on the wrong side of the road and passed a car coming from the other direction with barely 6 inches between us.

I hate the idiots on Queen St at nights. If you really want to drive - do what I do - join a car club and go out on track days, organised club runs down remote but challenging country roads, etc, etc. Don't toodle along in the city and endanger the public.

I have nothing against asian drivers in general - but some of them are :angry2: You know what I'm talkng about.

Yes I own a little 4 cylinder cos thats all I can pay for - otherwise it would be a black 1965 AC Shelby Cobra with a 427cu engine.

There's no replacement for displacement. Period.

[Motoracer]

Amen to that. I wana MR2 turbo too!

[scumdog]

I love to 'tinker' and to 'improve' things, I also like to 'detail' and like a clean uncluttered engine bay, in just about all Jappas there is neither the room or engine lay-out to freely tinker or detail an engine and engine bay.

My 'dinosaur' F100 has a tidy engine bay, no messy electronics, turbo, intercooler, injection or emmissions gear to 'mess' things up and it has an engine bay big enough to lose a whole MR2 in!! :2thumbsup

Just my pre-historic opinion.

[Blakamin]

I love to 'tinker' and to 'improve' things, I also like to 'detail' and like a clean uncluttered engine bay, in just about all Jappas there is neither the room or engine lay-out to freely tinker or detail an engine and engine bay.

My 'dinosaur' F100 has a tidy engine bay, no messy electronics, turbo, intercooler, injection or emmissions gear to 'mess' things up and it has an engine bay big enough to lose a whole MR2 in!! :2thumbsup

Just my pre-historic opinion.
Not pre-historic!... shit, the newest cage I've ever owned was a 79 XD...(351)
give me an F truck anyday!... my cousin just sold his mr2.. about as comfortable as a go cart!

[TonyB]

Strange, a 944 with decent suspension (getting a little old now) and good tyres should have given you quite a bit of trouble (depends on the model, anything less than a 944S and you'd kill it, but the S and S2 are great handling cars.)

Ooops, just been looking at some photo's to show you what it looked like, and it wasn't a 944- it was a Morris Oxford, just kidding- it was a 928. I have no idea where these fit into the world of performance cars, perhaps they handle like a Morris Oxford.....which would explain a lot....

[Motu]

Hmmm,a 928? That would have to be one of the most impressive cars I've ever driven,and I get to drive quite a few.I doubt most bikes could get near one driven in anger...

[Devil]

Ooops, just been looking at some photo's to show you what it looked like, and it wasn't a 944- it was a Morris Oxford, just kidding- it was a 928. I have no idea where these fit into the world of performance cars, perhaps they handle like a Morris Oxford.....which would explain a lot....
Ahh ok, theres a few generations of the 928.
You have a 928, 928S, 928S2, 928S4, and the granddaddy 928GTS.
The first 4 have a 4.7 Litre V8, not a huge amount of power, but good for the day unfortunately most turned up here as automatics (rare to see a manual one on the road!). The GTS has a 5.0 V8, and 300 and something HP with plenty of torque. Great car, still good handling, but doesnt have the 50/50ish weight distribution of the 944 range.

Hmmm,a 928? That would have to be one of the most impressive cars I've ever driven,and I get to drive quite a few.I doubt most bikes could get near one driven in anger...
Yer the handlers out of that range are the S4 and GTS (manuals of course). Would love one, the GTS is a beast.

[inlinefour]

So, when you are on the road (bike or cage) and you see a boy racer, what are your feelings about him/her?

Personly I feel sorry for them, but dislike them at the same time. :puke:

So, go ahead, get a load off your chest. :buggerd:Oh and if you cant go and find a back road where no one is about. For those boy racers that do it in populated areas, nothing a good beatin might fix... :finger:

[Sniper]

Oh and if you cant go and find a back road where no one is about. For those boy racers that do it in populated areas, nothing a good beatin might fix... :finger:

I havent come across many boy racers. Ok, Blenheim doesnt harbour too many and those that are around have had the same cars for decades and are just retarded.

But to the boy racers all I can say is :whocares: You are gay already, why emphsis the fact? :whistle:

[TonyB]

Hmmm,a 928? That would have to be one of the most impressive cars I've ever driven,and I get to drive quite a few.I doubt most bikes could get near one driven in anger...
I'm starting to wish I'd never mentioned this...... :pinch: Hell, it happened about 18 months ago, so I honestly couldn't tell you if there were "S's" or whatever on the back. It was dark grey and it had "PORSCHE" in relief across the back. It might have had a little spoiler on the back- can't remember. I do remember looking at the fairly fat feet it had and thinking something like "I'll have him in a straight line but he'll kill me in the corners". We were going up the Chch side of Dyers pass road. Maybe the gradient of the road was enough to make it more of a power issue rather than handling?

[Devil]

I'm starting to wish I'd never mentioned this...... :pinch: Hell, it happened about 18 months ago, so I honestly couldn't tell you if there were "S's" or whatever on the back. It was dark grey and it had "PORSCHE" in relief across the back. It might have had a little spoiler on the back- can't remember. I do remember looking at the fairly fat feet it had and thinking something like "I'll have him in a straight line but he'll kill me in the corners". We were going up the Chch side of Dyers pass road. Maybe the gradient of the road was enough to make it more of a power issue rather than handling?
Heh s'ok. I just like my porsches :D

[Motu]

Ahh ok, theres a few generations of the 928.
You have a 928, 928S, 928S2, 928S4, and the granddaddy 928GTS.
The first 4 have a 4.7 Litre V8, not a huge amount of power, but good for the day unfortunately most turned up here as automatics (rare to see a manual one on the road!). The GST has a 5.0 V8, and 300 and something HP with plenty of torque. Great car, still good handling, but doesnt have the 50/50ish weight distribution of the 944 range.

Yer the handlers out of that range are the S4 and GTS (manuals of course). Would love one, the GTS is a beast.

Yeah,musta been the powerful good handling one I drove - y'know...the kinda car where you think,shit,I'm some fuckin good driver ain't I.Peeling out from the curb and just going sideways smoking both rear tyres and turning that manouver into a turn into a side street,all under control in a car worth as much as a house...something I'd never attempt in a Toyota Starlet,but just comes as natural in these things.

Much as I'd hate to admit it and loose my credibilty on this forum - the average bike rider is able to control their bike pretty well,they can get maybe 60% out of the available performance out of the bike.The driver of the average Ferrari or Lamborgini would be out of their depth at 10% of the cars ability.But I think there would be some deflated egos if they ever came across say Jim Richards in a Porche on a clear road.

[Devil]

Much as I'd hate to admit it and loose my credibilty on this forum - the average bike rider is able to control their bike pretty well,they can get maybe 60% out of the available performance out of the bike.The driver of the average Ferrari or Lamborgini would be out of their depth at 10% of the cars ability.But I think there would be some deflated egos if they ever came across say Jim Richards in a Porche on a clear road.
I feel much happier fanging the car around than the bike.
Caught highlights of the targa tasmania on TV the other day, Jim Richards and some other guy racing their 911 GT2 (yes, he's in a GT2 now!) in the hail, with over 500HP. Id be shitting meself in that weather with something as scary as that going through the rear wheels.

[Sniper]

Yes, but how many porches do you see being driven in Boy racer style around NZ? I havent seen many. Porche drivers generally know they are better than the rest (Wankers!! :whistle: )

[Sniper]

I feel much happier fanging the car around than the bike.
Caught highlights of the targa tasmania on TV the other day, Jim Richards and some other guy racing their 911 GT2 (yes, he's in a GT2 now!) in the hail, with over 500HP. Id be shitting meself in that weather with something as scary as that going through the rear wheels.

Still be pretty fun and one hell of an experience. You would be remembered too by the smell you leave behind :banana: :shake:

[Devil]

Yes, but how many porches do you see being driven in Boy racer style around NZ? I havent seen many. Porche drivers generally know they are better than the rest (Wankers!! :whistle: )
My mate has just had to get rid of his GT2 and lay low from the law for a while I think :)
When the first 996 Turbo turned up at Big Boys Toys a few years ago, it also happened to turn up at my house the next weekend to pick me up for a blat :D They'd lock him up and throw away the key if they witnessed what went on.

Although if there was any super/sports car i could choose to be in while the driver was giving it a hiding, it'd be the 996 turbo. Feel very safe in that car, and ive been in a few supercars.

[Sniper]

Choice, yea I havent been in one but wouldnt mind a drive in one (Hint hint)

[TonyB]

But I think there would be some deflated egos if they ever came across say Jim Richards in a Porche on a clear road.

I definitely agree with that. I've driven a few fairly decent cars: my old mans 89 Cefiro turbo (don't laugh! it's a surprisingly good car), a workmates 02 WRX, the bosses VT SS, a BA XR8 and the bosses new car, the XR6 turbo. It's hard to say this for certain, as the sensation of driving a car is so different to riding a bike, but if point A and point B were seperated by a good curvy road and the limit wasn't exceeded by more than 30k's- 40k's I'm not sure that I could get there quicker on the bike. 'Survival reactions' always stop me from riding anywhere near the limit, whereas I can take a car to the point of getting out of shape with reasonable confidence.

I reckon we bikers need an event similar to the Targa rally. The only issue would be the pace notes. Maybe a computerised setup using GPS to activate pre-recorded notes? I'd be keen- not quick, but keen anyway!

[Devil]

'Survival reactions' always stop me from riding anywhere near the limit, whereas I can take a car to the point of getting out of shape with reasonable confidence.
My sentiments exactly. If I botch a little in the car, I get a bit more slide or whatever, if I botch on the bike, I arse off into the scenery.

The grip on the 996 turbo is fecking nuts. Thats one thing I miss on the bike, the sheer lateral G forces.
Ive only been a passenger in these doomy cars, I dont think id have the balls to drive them hard in fear of dinging one!
Have been passenger in:
Porsche 993 Turbo
Porsche 996 Turbo x 2. (Tiptronic and Manual. Manual all the way!)
Skyline R33 GTR (400hp.)
Audi RS4
Audi RS6
Ferrari 550 Maranello (With the gayest exhaust ive ever heard. Sounded like a BMW V12, bubububububububu)
TVR Griffith 500 (Oh god, the noise, the torque, instant wet yourself).
Missed out on 360 spider, and GT2 through slackness :(

Have driven:
Evo 7 (loved it, pretty harsh, but very sharp).
BMW 850 (CSi V12, bored to 5.8Litre, exhaust, engine management. 450HP approx). That was a straight line machine, shitloads of torque.
And ofcourse the daily driver, '97 VR4 (x2, including my fathers one).

[Motu]

I'd love that too - but it's been tried before...total carnage,as you'd expect.I said most good riders could get 60% out of their bikes,anymore is no mans land for them.You've seen the quota of KB member spills,imagine letting them loose with no control....except their own ability to pace themselves.Targa has natural terrain,gravel on corners,slips and bumps,all the stuff they like to blame for their spills...nah,it'd be a slaughter house.

[TonyB]

Lucky bugger, how do you manage that?
I expected to get bagged for my list of 'fairly decent cars'. I started typing it, answered a few phone calss etc, finished it off, posted it, and lo and behold we are now talking about supercars!

[Motu]

A bike is so much more knife edge than a car,one of the reasons I prefer bikes,but I miss being on the outer limits and getting a loose car under control again.That's why I like gravel roads so much - I can ride in that zone of over the edge so much easier,just so much slipping and sliding,having the bike out of shape and getting it all back together.It's just not possible to ride like that on seal with any safety.

[Devil]

Lucky bugger, how do you manage that?
I expected to get bagged for my list of 'fairly decent cars'. I started typing it, answered a few phone calss etc, finished it off, posted it, and lo and behold we are now talking about supercars!
Heh, pure luck.
All of the ones in the "passenger in" list belonged to one person at one time or another.
The have driven list, VR4 is mine of course, dad liked my one so much he bought one himself. The Evo 7 was due to being a good customer of Kirk Motors, they threw me the keys to take it for a drive. Id love to have one.

If I won a bucket load of money, and had to pick two cars out of that list, (assuming I could afford to maintain them hehe), id end up with the 996 turbo (all weather, beasty), and the Griffith for the dry days. Id never really heard of the griffith before till I saw/went for a ride in it (this was back maybe 1997?). I turn up at the owners place, its sitting in the garage, sorta MX-5 sized car. Then he turns the ignition and I just about wet myself. That V8, yum. Next thing I know, we're blatting up the street and he's only changing out of second gear at about 150km/h ;)
I couldnt see over the bonnet properly when he was hard on the gas, till he changed gear and the nose dropped for a second heh.

[Sniper]

Heh, pure luck.
All of the ones in the "passenger in" list belonged to one person at one time or another.
The have driven list, VR4 is mine of course, dad liked my one so much he bought one himself. The Evo 7 was due to being a good customer of Kirk Motors, they threw me the keys to take it for a drive. Id love to have one.

If I won a bucket load of money, and had to pick two cars out of that list, (assuming I could afford to maintain them hehe), id end up with the 996 turbo (all weather, beasty), and the Griffith for the dry days. Id never really heard of the griffith before till I saw/went for a ride in it (this was back maybe 1997?). I turn up at the owners place, its sitting in the garage, sorta MX-5 sized car. Then he turns the ignition and I just about wet myself. That V8, yum. Next thing I know, we're blatting up the street and he's only changing out of second gear at about 150km/h ;)
I couldnt see over the bonnet properly when he was hard on the gas, till he changed gear and the nose dropped for a second heh.
Lucky bastard :shit: :first: :Punk:

[Wenier]

Ive been in and driven quite a few cars which get stereotyped as boyracers ones as they are loud exhaust and low, stereo usually aint done. But the fact is these cars are actually drag raced legally and they dont have another car for normal use so have to use that. The cops actually pick on them quite a bit jus because of the look.

I love the EVO 7 and 05 WRX, wouldnt mind a XR6 Turbo but if anything a Aston Martin Vanquish would b wicked.

[Devil]

Aston Martin Vanquish
Hell yes. Sexiest car ever.
The DB9 is looking that way too.

[marty]

there's a young guy in cambridge with a 928 V8 porsche - has a big bore and it sounds mysteriously like an HSV! - wouldn't suprise me if it had 350 chev power to be honest -a lot cheaper to fix!

i generally dislike boy racers. i don't mind the old skool cruisers - some of them are done very well, and are classic. *some* of the well done boy racer cars are works of art - especially old RX3's, corollas, mercedes etc. of the later model cars, the only ones that i reckon cut it are the VR4 wagons (becoming common now though) and some of the vans.

the reason that i dislike cheap nasty mods, is that i have been involved in 2 fatals that have directly involved the cutting of suspension, and the welding of diffs. one of the fatals killed a kid walking to school. the other killed 2 girls just along for the ride. i once pink stickered an escort with the body u-bolted to the chassis, only to later find it being driven at speed (over 150kph) on sh1 trying to get back to rotorua (this vehicle NEVER ran again after i had 'words' with it). i used to watch the rear-drive cars going around the roundabouts and watch the inside wheel chirping around - huge stresses on the wheels nuts/axle - once found a girl racer had bought an RX3 that had this mod done to it - she had NO idea. or how about 13b turbos fitted to corollas that started life as a 1100cc shopping basket. brakes? it's got brakes - we don't have to worry about upgrading those, and while we're at it, we'll cut 2" off the springs - it doesn't matter that the first bump we go over that they'll fall out of the housing. and we'll take all the base out of the seats and PK screw them into the floor.

and have you ever tried driving a small car at night with 5-10% vlt tinting on the windows? hell i had 35% vlt on the front doors of my van, and 20% all round the back - that was bad enough.

or carrying an empty box of king springs in the boot, and saying 'look' doesn't convince me when i can see grind marks on the spring housing. or telling me you've got 'superlows' fitted. super wanky more like it.

boy racers - a pet target of mine once upon a time. coming from an engineering background helped a lot. super lows i always laughed at that one.

[scumdog]

i once pink stickered an escort with the body u-bolted to the chassis, only to later find it being driven at speed (over 150kph) on sh1 trying to get back to rotorua (this vehicle NEVER ran again after i had 'words' with it). i used to watch the rear-drive cars going around the roundabouts and watch the inside wheel chirping around - huge stresses on the wheels nuts/axle - once found a girl racer had bought an RX3 that had this mod done to it - she had NO idea. or how about 13b turbos fitted to corollas that started life as a 1100cc shopping basket. brakes? it's got brakes - we don't have to worry about upgrading those, and while we're at it, we'll cut 2" off the springs - it doesn't matter that the first bump we go over that they'll fall out of the housing. and we'll take all the base out of the seats and PK screw them into the floor.

carrying an empty box of king springs in the boot, and saying 'look' doesn't convince me when i can see grind marks on the spring housing. or telling me you've got 'superlows' fitted. super wanky more like it.

boy racers - a pet target of mine once upon a time. coming from an engineering background helped a lot. super lows i always laughed at that one.

Marty, do you mean the DIFF U-bolted to the body?

Yep, had similar stories, - "honest, they're real King springs, we just cut two coils off them 'cos it wasn't low enough"! WTF!!!!! :crazy:

BTW Marty, I have a 1962 car that was designed for a 100E Prefect engine (40hp of screaming raw horsepower!) that now has 300+hp moving it along - but yeah, it has better brakes/steering/suspension AND it's certified. ;)

[spudchucka]

They drive along in their low as cars, barely able to see over the steering wheel, the car has absolutley no suspension travel so it bounces and breaks traction over the smallest bumps in the road and when you pull them over they ask you why???? Then they have a fit when you slap a pink sticker on it.

Car enthusiasts who spend big $$$ on flash mods = alright by me so long as they don't behave like idiots!

Dumb arse boy racers in crapped out poorly modified hunks of junk = I write out lots of tickets!

[DEATH_INC.]

Yeh,I see it all the time in my line of work......
We had a late model Merc in the other day with NO springs in it :tugger:

[marty]

well spotted scumdog - yeah i meant the DIFF u-bolted to the body, just by drilling a couple of holes in the floor pan running the threaded portion thru there.

[TonyB]

well spotted scumdog - yeah i meant the DIFF u-bolted to the body, just by drilling a couple of holes in the floor pan running the threaded portion thru there.
:shit: Followed a young lad driving a lowered 92 626 2.5V6 a couple of weeks ago- he hit a bump going round a bend at entirely legal speeds and nearly bounced off the road. And it still had springs....

[spudchucka]

In 20 years time these guys will all be on ACC because their spines will be compressed so much they can't stand up straight and their ears will bleed constantly from all the boom boom music they pump out of their sub woofers.

But it will be someone elses fault of course.

[SPman]

Yeh,I see it all the time in my line of work......
We had a late model Merc in the other day with NO springs in it :tugger:
What goes through these dimwitties minds (assuming they have one) when they do this??? Do they have no basic mechanical knowledge at all?

[SPORK]

But it will be someone elses fault of course.

Duh! As the youth of today I demand respect from all of you adults!

Sheesh, I am the future, so why should I suffer any discomfort, no matter how little?

Holy crap you people are boring me... Off with your heads:P

[justsomeguy]

A lot of these people have good intentions just that they are not too intelligent. They only look at 1 thing.

See lowering your car will help your car handle better
:Oops: If you make sure you only drive on billiard tables.

A bigger exhaust will help your car go faster
:Oops: But only to a limit and that too only if you do a proper job - starting from the extractors, etc.

Bigger turbos will help your car go faster
:Oops: But your engine may not be able to handle them

A stiffer suspension will help your car corner better
:Oops: But only if you have compensated elsewhere - or you will literally begin to crack parts of your chassis - over time, and loosen a lot of parts through increased vibration (including some fillings in your teeth).

You have just spent thousands modifying your ride
:Oops: But car manufacturers spend millions sometimes even over a 100 million developing and testing your car to make sure it works as an entity - why not just buy a better car instead of wasting money on a simple one???

I've known guys buy a car and spend the equivalent of what they paid on modifications. Why not just buy a second hand porsche boxter or a mint 944 turbo?? But thats just me..........................................:cool:

[festus]

Don't get me wrong, but I was probably considered a boy racer in my day. My first car was a Mk3 GT Cortina :headbang: I thought I was the shit!. Wide tyres, flash mags & stereo!..... :Punk:
I cannot figure out how these young buggers can afford the cars I see them driving around in today though,, plus the accessories as well!.

I've had V8's ever since mind ya, so hopefully this exonerates me a little.

[Sniper]

Don't get me wrong, but I was probably considered a boy racer in my day. My first car was a Mk3 GT Cortina :headbang: I thought I was the shit!. Wide tyres, flash mags & stereo!..... :Punk:
I cannot figure out how these young buggers can afford the cars I see them driving around in today though,, plus the accessories as well!.

I've had V8's ever since mind ya, so hopefully this exonerates me a little.

Well, they afford them by taking out a loan that will take them years to repay. Seen it dont so many times, bloody nuisenses. :shit:

[Madmax]

welding of diffs
have seen one explode after being welded,
young guy had just done it took it out the front of his house
You know to do a burn out (as they do)
I hear the noise when out to have a look (through brick,as i do)
Just in time to watch it explode
The driveshaft spun round under the floor
and wrecked the floorpan,
a piece of the diff exited out the roof
I did not need the brick (Dam it) :whistle:

[festus]

Well, they afford them by taking out a loan that will take them years to repay. Seen it dont so many times, bloody nuisenses. :shit:

Your right there, some of those cars would be anywhere from 20-30 grand, then insurance on top of that (I assume it's still compulsory to insure a vehicle on HP/loan), then when they need a set of 17" tyres worth another grand minimum, gas money..........it's bloody mind boggling how they can afford all that shit!..... :confused:

[Motu]

They can't afford all that shit - it's on tick at Mag n Turbo,$1 down.

[Sniper]

They can't afford all that shit - it's on tick at Mag n Turbo,$1 down.

Bingo, you got it. All that HP adds up and up, bloody ridiculous!! :doh:

Take them out to be :ar15:

[SPORK]

Meh, I had my electric guitar on HP when I was 13 :D

[bungbung]

Meh, I had my electric guitar on HP when I was 13 :D

I'm guessing your guitar didn't cost 30G? nor did it depreciate at the speed of sound...

[justsomeguy]

A lot of the boy racers especially in the flashier cars are Chinese, South Korean, Hong Kong, Singaporean, Vietnamese, Taiwanese, etc, etc.

Had a few friends/aquaintances in uni. They get like 3-4000 dollars a month pocket money. Things like rent and bills go straight from their dads accounts into their landlords account. The 3-4000 is only for them to play with. I kid you not. A lot of these guys are filthy rich.

And as for the guys who get it on HP - I wonder how the hell they afford it. Cos you need to have a certain income before finance companies will lend you a certain amount.

[Sniper]

Meh, I had my electric guitar on HP when I was 13 :D

Was it all under your name and stuff? But I bet you had good choice in guitars though. Not like retards in cages that cut springs and make psssst noises when they go past. :ar15: :tugger:

[justsomeguy]

Then there are the others who have white collar jobs. Get 600 dollars a week and spend 600 by the end of the week.

[SPORK]

Nah, Mum's name. My moneys though.

Can't wait till next year, gunna earn me some motherfucking money!

[Sniper]

Nah, Mum's name. My moneys though.

Can't wait till next year, gunna earn me some motherfucking money!

Fair enough. Enough to get a real bike :rolleyes: :spudwave: :whistle:

[SPORK]

:mad:

Yeah, real funny. That is right though. How very considerate of you.

[scumdog]

In 20 years time these guys will all be on ACC because their spines will be compressed so much they can't stand up straight and their ears will bleed constantly from all the boom boom music they pump out of their sub woofers.

But it will be someone elses fault of course.

Notice how many 'BR' cars have damaged front/rear bumpers etc? Comes from sitting too low to see the tail-lights of the car on front, car on fronts stops/turns suddenly and wham! lots of bits of plastic in orbit.

Heard of 5 or six cars getting damaged that way on one of their 'trains' on a Saturday night!!

[Sniper]

Notice how many 'BR' cars have damaged front/rear bumpers etc? Comes from sitting too low to see the tail-lights of the car on front, car on fronts stops/turns suddenly and wham! lots of bits of plastic in orbit.

Heard of 5 or six cars getting damaged that way on one of their 'trains' on a Saturday night!!

Hahaha, thats true, seen it happen more than once in Blenheim :whistle: :laugh:

[avgas]

Cos if you mean a boy who races round the place to have a blat - then thats me.
But if you mean all that lets make cars impractical and shiny - im not in the section.
But i love chuckn a car n the garage, poping the bonnet and chuckn leads, plugs, filters etc on. I dont mind a decent stereo either.
The true definition of the boy racers you are thinking of - is "Rice racers", who just do it to show off.
But that makes you wonder about some motorbike owners too :cool2:

[The Pastor]

yeah, i have nothing against them at all, other than that most of the ones ive met (talking about the ricers with the "TrIcKeD oUt" cars) are total pricks....



nothing wrong with have an agressive sound system :) right now my car is 50M away and im listing to my fav gnr cd and can hear it perfectly


the cars look "differnt" from factory, but i would spend that much on it, maybe some mags and a paint job and sounds but thts it, want speed? get a bike

[Blakamin]

nothing wrong with have an agressive sound system :) right now my car is 50M away and im listing to my fav gnr cd and can hear it perfectly


how close are ya neighbours??? if ya did that near me ya might find a fucked stereo in the morning...after i "watered my lawn"

[crazylittleshit]

I use to be one of these miss guided fools until I saw the light :rofl:

[SPORK]

I use to be one of these miss guided fools until I saw the light :rofl:
WWWOOOOOAAAARRRR!

For some reason I was thinking about this thread earlier today for NO reason whatsover, and I come home, check the new posts, and someone's posted in it! How's that for crazy?

[250learna]

its crazy alright! :weird:

There is a few kinds of boy racers to look at
1) boy racer who has a fuken old rust bucket and a some repco tints
2) boyracer who has a granma civic and thinks hes the man
3) boy racer who has a nice quick car and a few mods
4) asian driver with rich daddy and a supra :oi-grr:
5) boy racers with old cars low king springs and chromes
6) mt maunganui with rotary in whatever his/hers car of choice - i admire these :niceone:
7)hard out i want to win autosaloon and have too much money racer

I have a nice car (nothing extream) a nice body kit that adds to the lines and doesnt scrape all the time, some mags to match the car, new exhause from where cat converter use to be to the RPS muff out the back (its a bit loud :whistle: ) and a cold air pod.
Inside amp sub components & headunit that plays clips :niceone: nice mix of alpine & kenwood with sony head unit.
But am i a boy racer? Do i spend my nights on the boyracer carpark picking up 12 year old skans? no, and NO
I did that to my car because improving my car makes me happy, i like the speed, i like the way it looks and i like the way it sounds.
and as Jon Bon Jovi said "its my life" :niceone:

[Pixie]

I saw a Morris 1100 the other day,absolutely standard,even had skinny tyres,except for the three inch exhaust sticking out the back (in the middle)
Is that a boy racer?

[Zapf]

its crazy alright! :weird:

There is a few kinds of boy racers to look at
1) boy racer who has a fuken old rust bucket and a some repco tints
2) boyracer who has a granma civic and thinks hes the man
3) boy racer who has a nice quick car and a few mods
4) asian driver with rich daddy and a supra :oi-grr:
5) boy racers with old cars low king springs and chromes
6) mt maunganui with rotary in whatever his/hers car of choice - i admire these :niceone:
7)hard out i want to win autosaloon and have too much money racer

I have a nice car (nothing extream) a nice body kit that adds to the lines and doesnt scrape all the time, some mags to match the car, new exhause from where cat converter use to be to the RPS muff out the back (its a bit loud :whistle: ) and a cold air pod.
Inside amp sub components & headunit that plays clips :niceone: nice mix of alpine & kenwood with sony head unit.
But am i a boy racer? Do i spend my nights on the boyracer carpark picking up 12 year old skans? no, and NO
I did that to my car because improving my car makes me happy, i like the speed, i like the way it looks and i like the way it sounds.
and as Jon Bon Jovi said "its my life" :niceone:

Addition please.

4.1) asian driver who works his ass off to own a 25T skyline before any kids has one, and mod all the important bits performance bits and no wank body kits and knows how to drive.

[250learna]

Addition please.

4.1) asian driver who works his ass off to own a 25T skyline before any kids has one, and mod all the important bits performance bits and no wank body kits and knows how to drive.

ya my bad i forgot the boyracer who doesnt care about looks of his car as much as performance and goes to or would like to go to track days

The groups :grouphug: are not "race specific"
just group 4 is as its a stereo type

As for the morris, in my professional opinion i have to classify that into group 1 :niceone:

[justsomeguy]

What about those guys who belong to organised car clubs, go on regular club drives down twisty, lonely country roads and the occasional track day.

Modify as much of their car as possible without messing with the factory settings - no drastic lowering, bodykits, zero bling ==> only mechanical modifications to enhance rather than go extreme.

And who wouldn't be caught dead on Queen Street on any weeknight and instead would avoid it like the plague.

The only deisel they drive over happens to have spilt at the petrol pump.

Now a lot of these guys are boys and yup they do drive in a slightly racy manner - but would you call them boy racers??

[FEINT]

What about those guys who belong to organised car clubs, go on regular club drives down twisty, lonely country roads and the occasional track day.

Modify as much of their car as possible without messing with the factory settings - no drastic lowering, bodykits, zero bling ==> only mechanical modifications to enhance rather than go extreme.

And who wouldn't be caught dead on Queen Street on any weeknight and instead would avoid it like the plague.

The only deisel they drive over happens to have spilt at the petrol pump.

Now a lot of these guys are boys and yup they do drive in a slightly racy manner - but would you call them boy racers??

There are quite a few of these people around, but you won't see them on the road. I was one of these people. My car clocked 3000km a year. Mainly used on the track. That car is now gone, the whole image that went along with perfomance cars wasn't what I wanted. Now, I ride a bike instead.

I think an issue that goes along with cars and all, is the drivers. Everyone thinks they can drive well. Maybe so, but the roads aren't a place to try it out. :niceone:

I think a car today isn't just a car, it is a status symbol. Hence all the done up old school mercs and BMW's. Cut springs / NO springs is the current trend, the lower the better. Blue LED's is the bling and chrome... chrome heavy heavy rims..... :puke: These guys aren't out for perfomance, they are out for show. Safety isn't an issue for them, the car being LOW is. GT wings was a phase, but that has died now.

Just my thoughts. :D

[justsomeguy]

There are quite a few of these people around, but you won't see them on the road. I was one of these people. My car clocked 3000km a year. Mainly used on the track. That car is now gone, the whole image that went along with perfomance cars wasn't what I wanted. Now, I ride a bike instead.

I think an issue that goes along with cars and all, is the drivers. Everyone thinks they can drive well. Maybe so, but the roads aren't a place to try it out. :niceone:

I think a car today isn't just a car, it is a status symbol. Hence all the done up old school mercs and BMW's. Cut springs / NO springs is the current trend, the lower the better. Blue LED's is the bling and chrome... chrome heavy heavy rims..... :puke: These guys aren't out for perfomance, they are out for show. Safety isn't an issue for them, the car being LOW is. GT wings was a phase, but that has died now.

Just my thoughts. :D

How the hell did you manage 3000k's??

I ended up doing 8000 over a year of purely only the odd weekend and that too the single day of the weekend.

[FEINT]

How the hell did you manage 3000k's??

I ended up doing 8000 over a year of purely only the odd weekend and that too the single day of the weekend.

to track and around the track and back and that was pretty much it. :niceone:

[Mr Skid]

Addition please.

4.1) asian driver who works his ass off to own a 25T skyline before any kids has one, and mod all the important bits performance bits and no wank body kits and knows how to drive.
There's none of them around here though is there?

[justsomeguy]

I really laugh at the clowns who do up their cars so funnily. The worst example was yesterday some fool in a civic had a blue LED - just above his bloody exhaust.....:weird:

Really distracting if you are following him even though he was several cars ahead. Hope he got caught that same night.

[inlinefour]

What I find really blardy funny is when you see a boy/girl racer who has modded everything nicely, just to give it shit and eventually kill it...

Allways brings a smile to my dial :motu:

[250learna]

What about those guys who belong to organised car clubs, go on regular club drives down twisty, lonely country roads and the occasional track day.

Modify as much of their car as possible without messing with the factory settings - no drastic lowering, bodykits, zero bling ==> only mechanical modifications to enhance rather than go extreme.

And who wouldn't be caught dead on Queen Street on any weeknight and instead would avoid it like the plague.

The only deisel they drive over happens to have spilt at the petrol pump.

Now a lot of these guys are boys and yup they do drive in a slightly racy manner - but would you call them boy racers??

I never belonged to a club, i use to go on the twisties and do a bit of...erm fast driving, usualy few of us in saperate cars, with one car ahead that cheacks the road is clear and givs us a go ahead, few close calls :whistle: but only ppl put in danger were ourselves. I still feel like doing that sometimes, but for starters each tyre is $290- m8s rates, and the car in general is quiet expensive to thrash. I have only done it a few times in my new car (well 12months new) but just cnt justify the cost :no:
Hoping to get a bit better on the bike and then take it to the track :yes:

And just to clerify any of this dangerous driving NEVER took place around other trafic/ busy roads.

[justsomeguy]

I never belonged to a club, i use to go on the twisties and do a bit of...erm fast driving, usualy few of us in saperate cars, with one car ahead that cheacks the road is clear and givs us a go ahead, few close calls :whistle: but only ppl put in danger were ourselves. I still feel like doing that sometimes, but for starters each tyre is $290- m8s rates, and the car in general is quiet expensive to thrash. I have only done it a few times in my new car (well 12months new) but just cnt justify the cost :no:
Hoping to get a bit better on the bike and then take it to the track :yes:

And just to clerify any of this dangerous driving NEVER took place around other trafic/ busy roads.

It doesn't have to be expensive. You just need to make some friends in the industry... and $290 tyres?? Why do you need such flash tyres?? Gonna do 300kmph??

Understand completely about your nice car, I was in the same boat too.... then I sold the thing........ bikes it is now :ride:- until another 3 months then...should have the next project complete... and no I'm not telling any of you what it is..........:nono:

[Lou Girardin]

Yep, see it heaps, they lower the rear of a car with I.R.S. and exceed the amount of camber adjustment in the suspension so just drive around with that sad-ass 'knocked-knee' look, unfortunately apart from looking stupid it also allows the inside edge of the tyre to take most of the load and wear faster, outside edge (the part you can see) looks o.k. but inside can be 'down to the canvas' (old school terminology) and bloody dangerous. :eek:

Not to mention no traction for braking, horrendous 'tramlining' when they do try and stop. I'm surprised you guys don't write them off the road when you see that.

[Lou Girardin]

Addition please.

4.1) asian driver who works his ass off to own a 25T skyline before any kids has one, and mod all the important bits performance bits and no wank body kits and knows how to drive.

As rare as rocking horse poo. Nice to be different, isn't it?

[spudchucka]

Not to mention no traction for braking, horrendous 'tramlining' when they do try and stop. I'm surprised you guys don't write them off the road when you see that.
I do!

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Stupid bloody message!

[justsomeguy]

I do!

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Stupid bloody message!

And good on you too....... anybody who does that to their car can't be too great a driver - don't want any of them on our roads.

[johnny]

dont like them .... the car .. too noisy the driving style ... stupid and cou;d kill someone any second...

If you play with car and modify it .... you need to make it better not just make it so people hate it !! Also i dont think they got their own money to spent on these expensive things.... again ... parents issue......

[250learna]

It doesn't have to be expensive. You just need to make some friends in the industry... and $290 tyres?? Why do you need such flash tyres?? Gonna do 300kmph??

Understand completely about your nice car, I was in the same boat too.... then I sold the thing........ bikes it is now :ride:- until another 3 months then...should have the next project complete... and no I'm not telling any of you what it is..........:nono:

yeah i got the bike so i can have fun on that to take the strain off the car, and coz i have wanted one for few years now :yes: couldnt bring myself to sell the car tho.
Its also helping controll the milage on the car. Was going up like theres no tomorow for a while, but now bike takes some of the strain.
With thouse two im always wanting to go somwhere so i have an excuse to ride/drive :niceone:

good tyres can do more for you than hold together at high speed, the also give you more...what the word?? traction :yes:
if you have always gone cheep on tyres you wont know what im on about, but you should try spending a bit more, then yo uwill appreciate what difference it realy makes to the performance of your precious

[FEINT]

good tyres can do more for you than hold together at high speed, the also give you more...what the word?? traction :yes:
if you have always gone cheep on tyres you wont know what im on about, but you should try spending a bit more, then yo uwill appreciate what difference it realy makes to the performance of your precious

Tires have speed ratings, you are right - usually the more expensive the tire, the better the rating therefore they faster you can go. Pressure makes a big difference and so does alignment settings (castor, camber and toe) and compound. :niceone: :niceone: .

I appreciate good tires. Goodyear GSD-03 Eagle F1's or Dunlop Direzza. :niceone: :niceone:

[Zapf]

P-Zero's yum yum.....

[Brian d marge]

This is it I want one ,,,,,btw any one like gsxr s ??? (http://gprime.net/video.php/gixxerkart)

if I have this right you should be able to click onn the above blue line and see a short movie of the ultimate boy racer cart

Stephen

[Eurodave]

I love this guys saftey equipment, helmet & gloves......thats all .......WTF? :weird:
Lose it on that thing wearing a shirt & its mega gravel rash/broken bones/hospital/skin graft time!!!!! :no:

[Devil]

It doesn't have to be expensive. You just need to make some friends in the industry... and $290 tyres?? Why do you need such flash tyres?? Gonna do 300kmph??
Uhhh, have you not tried good tyres before? $260 per tyre was about my personal limit, for that amount could get a set of Goodyear GS-D3's when they first came out (cheaper now). Awesome awesome tyre, especially in the wet.

I dont know why people compromise their safety with cheap tyres. You dont have to be hooning at all to reap the benefits.

JSG, dont tell me you drive around on shitters?

[Devil]

I appreciate good tires. Goodyear GSD-03 Eagle F1's or Dunlop Direzza. :niceone: :niceone:
Had gs-d3's, now direzza's. gs-d3's win!
As an example of grip difference, had direzza on the front and gs-d3 on the back, major understeer!
Definately going back to gs-d3's.

[sAsLEX]

This is it I want one ,,,,,btw any one like gsxr s ??? (http://gprime.net/video.php/gixxerkart)

if I have this right you should be able to click onn the above blue line and see a short movie of the ultimate boy racer cart

Stephen

hmmm, and swanman just wrote off a R1 with the engine relativaly unharmed!?

me sees a project just waiting to happen

[Motu]

Necromancy again!

Reminds me of a Silvia in last week - in poor Inglish the Aisian driver asks if he can pass a WoF...I say I don't know if he can pass a WoF,but he can pay me some money to see if his car can pass the test...he's kinda stumped on this as he wants to pass a WoF you see....and he doesn't want to pay any money if he doesn't pass.We overcome that hurdle so I give it the test - it's not too bad,but I suspect it's been ''raised'' for today,I just make a note about non standard wheels and tyres (17in) and exhaust (not very noisy) - but his 2 front tyres,which have 7mm on the outside have the steelbelts showing on the inside (a sure sign low is it's natural state) and the right rear is bald (heh,heh,nudge nudge,wink wink)

He's really upset of course and thinks I'm being a bit harsh - he wants to pass a WoF,not have to spend any money!! He was back yesterday with 3 new tyres - oh,very,very expensive,you have cost me a lot of money....I feel very guilty about this - do you think I should offer to pay for his tyres? because if I hadn't failed him on them he wouldn't of had to pay out all that money???

I don't do WoFs on real Boi Racer cars - I'm always too busy that day...

[idb]

I dont know why people compromise their safety with cheap tyres. You dont have to be hooning at all to reap the benefits.
Much easier to break traction in a sustained manner on shit tyres surely...?

[Ixion]

Necromancy again!

Reminds me of a Silvia in last week - in poor Inglish the Aisian driver asks if he can pass a WoF...I say I don't know if he can pass a WoF,but he can pay me some money to see if his car can pass the test...he's kinda stumped on this as he wants to pass a WoF you see....and he doesn't want to pay any money if he doesn't pass.We overcome that hurdle so I give it the test - it's not too bad,but I suspect it's been ''raised'' for today,I just make a note about non standard wheels and tyres (17in) and exhaust (not very noisy) - but his 2 front tyres,which have 7mm on the outside have the steelbelts showing on the inside (a sure sign low is it's natural state) and the right rear is bald (heh,heh,nudge nudge,wink wink)

He's really upset of course and thinks I'm being a bit harsh - he wants to pass a WoF,not have to spend any money!! He was back yesterday with 3 new tyres - oh,very,very expensive,you have cost me a lot of money....I feel very guilty about this - do you think I should offer to pay for his tyres? because if I hadn't failed him on them he wouldn't of had to pay out all that money???

I don't do WoFs on real Boi Racer cars - I'm always too busy that day...


Tsk, Mr Motu. You have clearly failed to grasp either the nuances of the language or modern economics.

As it is , you have gained maybe $35 for the WOF test . Mr Asian has paid lots and lots of money for new tyres, quite unnecessarily.

If you had done this properly and passed the WOF you would have scored $400, Mr Asian would have only had to pay $400 and everybody would have been happy.

EDIT. And you wouldn't have had to spend your time actually testing the car. Savings all round

[Eurodave]

Ah, corruption rears its ugly head ......again!!!,

Now,wheres my cheque book , Ive got a couple of vehicles that need "reregistering"

[Sniper]

Necromancy again!

Reminds me of a Silvia in last week - in poor Inglish the Aisian driver asks if he can pass a WoF...I say I don't know if he can pass a WoF,but he can pay me some money to see if his car can pass the test...he's kinda stumped on this as he wants to pass a WoF you see....and he doesn't want to pay any money if he doesn't pass.We overcome that hurdle so I give it the test - it's not too bad,but I suspect it's been ''raised'' for today,I just make a note about non standard wheels and tyres (17in) and exhaust (not very noisy) - but his 2 front tyres,which have 7mm on the outside have the steelbelts showing on the inside (a sure sign low is it's natural state) and the right rear is bald (heh,heh,nudge nudge,wink wink)

He's really upset of course and thinks I'm being a bit harsh - he wants to pass a WoF,not have to spend any money!! He was back yesterday with 3 new tyres - oh,very,very expensive,you have cost me a lot of money....I feel very guilty about this - do you think I should offer to pay for his tyres? because if I hadn't failed him on them he wouldn't of had to pay out all that money???

I don't do WoFs on real Boi Racer cars - I'm always too busy that day...
Proberbly quite upset he cant buy his WOF with his weekly porn mag anymore

[TonyB]

This is it I want one ,,,,,btw any one like gsxr s ??? (http://gprime.net/video.php/gixxerkart)

if I have this right you should be able to click onn the above blue line and see a short movie of the ultimate boy racer cart

Stephen
I want one too!

[zadok]

Being in the profession of carting what's left of these boy racers to hospital when they've wasted themselves, their passengers or innocent bystanders, I have to say that every time one screams past me, it gives me the shits bigtime. Oh, and most of them seem to be arrogent little pusheads.
I take my hat off to you there 'Riff Raff' doing a job like that.
Picking up the mess after these idiots have got out of control must be annoying. :oi-grr:

[zadok]

A lot of the boy racers especially in the flashier cars are Chinese, South Korean, Hong Kong, Singaporean, Vietnamese, Taiwanese, etc, etc.

Had a few friends/aquaintances in uni. They get like 3-4000 dollars a month pocket money. Things like rent and bills go straight from their dads accounts into their landlords account. The 3-4000 is only for them to play with. I kid you not. A lot of these guys are filthy rich.

And as for the guys who get it on HP - I wonder how the hell they afford it. Cos you need to have a certain income before finance companies will lend you a certain amount.
From my obrservations here in W.A (the news & what I see and hear), it seems that there a lot of Asian boy racers.
One a few months ago killed his cousin during one of his exploits and scarpered back home as quickly as he could. I think he is being extradited to face charges.

[Lou Girardin]

It doesn't have to be expensive. You just need to make some friends in the industry... and $290 tyres?? Why do you need such flash tyres?? Gonna do 300kmph??

Understand completely about your nice car, I was in the same boat too.... then I sold the thing........ bikes it is now :ride:- until another 3 months then...should have the next project complete... and no I'm not telling any of you what it is..........:nono:

So do you use Nitto Slippo tyres from the $2 shop on your bike?

[Beemer]

I hate boy racers as a general breed, although I can appreciate the work that has gone into some of their vehicles. The ones I hate are the lowered suspension cars with stupid slogans written all over the windows (usually derogatory to women), driven by what looks like a 14 year-old dwarf with acne and a backwards cap! Some even go the extra distance and pull their hoodie up over their cap so they look even more moronic. They get into turning lanes and then floor it and go straight ahead, usually cutting off anyone in the correct lane.

But the thing I hate the most is their music! We used to live in town and our street was favoured by the boy racers as it was an L-shaped street that connected to two main roads - and the corner was great for sliding around. You'd either be kept awake by their stereos booming or woken up as they slid around the corner. I usually find that the louder the stereo, the worse the driver's taste in music! Not that you could really call it music anyway, all you hear is the booming of the bass.

We live in the country now and thankfully in a no-exit road, so we rarely get them down here - too many people to come out and throw things at them if they have to drive past on their way out! But they do burnouts on the road ours leads to, making me SO glad we didn't buy the house that was for sale just near the intersection!

I can admire the paint jobs on some vehicles and the modifications if they are done well, but most of the vehicles are just wank-mobiles, driven by guys who are too sad to pull chicks any other way!

Dr Bob, you can download one of those driver reports from the net - someone posted a link to it the other day but I can't remember what post it was in. And Spudchucker, please move to Levin and rid us of these tossers!

[FEINT]

Had gs-d3's, now direzza's. gs-d3's win!
As an example of grip difference, had direzza on the front and gs-d3 on the back, major understeer!
Definately going back to gs-d3's.

That is what I would recommend too. GSD-03's are the best if you ask me. If you want tires, go and see Martin at Frank Allen Tires in Browns Bay and tell him Ming sent you. :) I used to go through heaps of tires. :)

[cheetor]

Well my reply is very simple. I ahve never been cut off by a boyracer, never had a boyracer change lanes into me, infact, no boyracer has ever done me wrong on the road, Other drivers however..... Now I dont want to sound ageist sexist or racist
but Old men, Women, and asians! FUCK they're dangerous, well not all of the,,. but a higher than average

On the name of boyracers, on my ZXR250, with a pillion I outdragged a RS legacy a GTR(Yeah right, don't badge your car with what you dont have) Skyline and a Toyta Altezza, all with a pillion :P

[250learna]

Well my reply is very simple. I ahve never been cut off by a boyracer, never had a boyracer change lanes into me, infact, no boyracer has ever done me wrong on the road, Other drivers however..... Now I dont want to sound ageist sexist or racist
but Old men, Women, and asians! FUCK they're dangerous, well not all of the,,. but a higher than average

On the name of boyracers, on my ZXR250, with a pillion I outdragged a RS legacy a GTR(Yeah right, don't badge your car with what you dont have) Skyline and a Toyta Altezza, all with a pillion :P

I won against a rs, but around 130 he just flew by me :no: , never mind when i get my restricted i mite celebrate by getting a 400 that should accelerate a bit higher :niceone: