Manfield short circuit good lap time or no?

[skidMark]

I'm looking at buying a zxr400 race bike

last weekend round mafield short it ran a 1 minute 28 best lap....

reasonably inexperianced rider but i know him and he aint too slow...this was on road tyres, it has slicks now,

now what i'm wondering is is a time like this competitive for say f3 racing....or will i need something quicker?

whats a reasonable lap time round manfield short, couldnt find anything on the net...

Cheers: Mark :first:

[marioc]

Well I used to do 1.29s in my standard 12A Mazda RX-7 on semi slicks if that helps lol.

[Masterchop]

A competitive time on Manfields short track on a 400 would be better than 1min 18s.

[Toast]

Here's the results from the 5th round of Vic Club Winter Series held there:

http://www.mylaps.com/results/showevent.jsp?id=253087

F3 race 1:

http://www.mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=664288

A guy I know on a basically stock ZXR400 who hadn't ridden for a while got 1:22 in that race.

The nutters on crazy SV650's in that race were getting 1:16's. The best of the rest on standardish bikes were getting 1:20.

So, no, 1:28 is not competitive, and slicks won't make the bike/rider go faster straight away.

[R6_kid]

do you have a job yet or is the rest of the country paying for the bike?

[skidMark]

Here's the results from the 5th round of Vic Club Winter Series held there:

http://www.mylaps.com/results/showevent.jsp?id=253087

F3 race 1:

http://www.mylaps.com/results/newResults.jsp?id=664288

A guy I know on a basically stock ZXR400 who hadn't ridden for a while got 1:22 in that race.

The nutters on crazy SV650's in that race were getting 1:16's. The best of the rest on standardish bikes were getting 1:20.

So, no, 1:28 is not competitive, and slicks won't make the bike/rider go faster straight away.


maybe hes just old and slow then haha

[sugilite]

ZXR400's make great 1st race bikes. They are very forgiving and great fun to ride as well. :yes:

[Sketchy_Racer]

Whats the name of said person that you are thinking of buying the bike off????

Racing is quite a small fraternity and someone will know the bike..

[skidMark]

Whats the name of said person that you are thinking of buying the bike off????

Racing is quite a small fraternity and someone will know the bike..


http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-123886100.htm

his names keith....

i bought the motor for my zxr250 off him...hes a good fella i just dunno how competitive it will be.

[Toast]

At $2500 you can't go far wrong.

[ajturbo]

luke did a 1:30

Avalon..(yes a GIRL).. did 1:28...

both of these were on a 150.. street stock.... road tyres...

( i have done a 1:36)

[Sparky Bills]

To be mid pack you should be down to 1.22-1.24.
If you get faster than that, you not going too bad at all!
There are not many 400's (well standard ones anyway) that can get under 1.20.

[Two Smoker]

My best times on a completely stock ZXR400 was 1:18's with Pirelli Supercorsas. F3 lap record is 1:13's Anything under 1:22's is quick. Most SVs will do 1:16's easy.

[Nicksta]

fastest 400 in clubmans this year was about 1:22 average was 1:24-1:26....
a lot is to do with the rider, not the bike dude

[GSVR]

I wouldn't worry about laptimes I would be more interested in if its in good mechanical condition, engine not blowing alot of smoke and reving cleanly.

If you want to spend 3 times as much you will go a bit faster and spend 10 times as much and you will be on par with the top nationals winning bikes.

Of course no point in having the best bike if you can't ride that well. So its better to have a bike and be learning the skillls. In some ways its better to have a cheap bike you can crash and it wont cost alot to fix. You also have to ride alot harder just to keep up and better than anyone else thats on a faster bike.

I'm more impressed by the guy that is quicker on a less competitive bike. Like Deano on his postclassic 400.

As far as laptimes go its more about comparing them to the best laptimes you have done. Once you get a baseline for you on a particular bike then you can see if your improving (or your improving the bike) after taking into account the track and weather conditions on that day. Very satisfiying to know your riding alot faster but frustrating when your getting slower.

[roogazza]

As far as laptimes go its more about comparing them to the best laptimes you have done. Once you get a baseline for you on a particular bike then you can see if your improving (or your improving the bike) after taking into account the track and weather conditions on that day. Very satisfiying to know your riding alot faster but frustrating when your getting slower.

I must admit I never worried about lap times and still don't ! Race the guy in front of you , you win some and you lose some, thats what its about. Who cares if you get a lap record and come sixth ?? coulda, woulda, shoulda ??
Just enjoy it out there. Gaz.

[Hoon]

Lap times are pretty much the sum of many variables bike included. While 1:28 isn't impressive it doesn't really mean the bike's a lemon. The rider plays a big part, track conditions, tyres, grid as well.

TwoSmoker could probably jump on that bike and do sub 1:20s.

I'd be more concerned that it's reliable and mechanically sound. But knowing it's competitive is important as well. Ask around if anyone saw it last weekend and if it was keeping up on the straights - that's all I'd worry about.

[White trash]

Crasherfromwayback can get around Manfeild in 1.19 on an (almost) stock Harley 883. Would that make ya buy one?

[Morcs]

How ya going to get it around Mark? Surely you cant afford a ute aswell?

You cant race on the dole... not enough $$$ Think about it.

You can enter your zxr250 into streetstock, it definately would be competitive and a good place to start.

[Sully60]

A good lap time at Manfield would be about 1.15pm I reckon, that way the sun isn't in your eye's like later in the afternoon when you go down the back straight:msn-wink:

[007XY]

Crasherfromwayback can get around Manfeild in 1.19 on an (almost) stock Harley 883. Would that make ya buy one?

WOW .. he must be carrying some serious corner speed.. awesome!!:blink:

[scracha]

Laptimes mean very little with regards to how good the bike is SkiddyMarcus. Get someone to look over the bike for ya. The faster 400 riders like Deano get consistent 1.22's BTW.

[vtec]

I think I managed x.xx's on my CBR250RR last year, and I think Jay Lawrence has done a x.xx on an RG150. In my opinion you should race your ZXR250 in streetstock. That class rocks. You should do the first round of the pmcc, I'll be there on my CBR250 after retiring from the more hardcore racing. You can do F3 on your ZXR250 aswell.

I might be riding my CBR to and from Taupo aswell.

*edit* Just checked and I only managed 1.27.1... So I'm not sure what Jay managed, maybe 1.26 on the RG.