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SpankMe
23rd October 2007, 22:27
Some of the things we need help with in organizing this ride. If you are able to help, please let us know.

Ride destination:
The route will be north bound along the southern motorway, but we need a place to finish the ride that has the space for all the bikes to park and riders to congregate.

Wellington/Christchurch organizers.
Volunteers needed to organize protest rides in these two centers on the same day.

Mrs Busa Pete
24th October 2007, 05:39
What about Transit New Zealands office in queen street at Qantas house or there abouts we could check to see if there is a carpark around that area.

Maha
24th October 2007, 06:16
Ride destination:
The route will be north bound along the southern motorway, but we need a place to finish the ride that has the space for all the bikes to park and riders to congregate.



Auckland Domain by the Museum....heaps of room....Protest in the Park!!

Pancakes
24th October 2007, 08:48
There's a park near the transit(?)/police HQ just after the bridge on the shore. Dunno if the big-wigs will be in on the weekend but a polite letter or call could be made. ie, please come and see how many bikers are honestly concerned about these barriers. No heckling or anything, I'm sure everyone can behave themselves and commant the respect this deserves. If a head honch can look in your eye's and the eye's of a good number of bikers who have lost friends on the road it may be a good way to bring reality home to people that can help the cause?



just my 2c.

_Shrek_
24th October 2007, 10:05
Some of the things we need help with in organizing this ride. If you are able to help, please let us know.

Ride destination:
The route will be north bound along the southern motorway, but we need a place to finish the ride that has the space for all the bikes to park and riders to congregate.

Wellington/Christchurch organizers.
Volunteers needed to organize protest rides in these two centers on the same day.

hi Spank
as there is a rally in Nelson that weekend
i put a thread in meeting & events (nelson rally) asking if there was a organized ride on sat in Nelson

DMNTD
24th October 2007, 10:13
Organising a ride for the Bay of Plenty crew to come up and join with the Auckland crew.

Just require a meeting point,where the ride will begin in Auckland.

Will be going to ALL motorcycle shops etc to spread the word.

Thank you :niceone:

GIXser
24th October 2007, 10:18
Some of the things we need help with in organizing this ride. If you are able to help, please let us know.

Ride destination:
The route will be north bound along the southern motorway, but we need a place to finish the ride that has the space for all the bikes to park and riders to congregate.

Wellington/Christchurch organizers.
Volunteers needed to organize protest rides in these two centers on the same day.


sounds all good, how are (we) making the public aware that this is a protest etc, there needs to be as much publicity as possible,
also-- whilst i fully agree with the ride and its purpose, there needs to be a follow up ride/program very shortly afterwards, ie an organised email out to the appropriatte people responsible for the barriers!, or a ride out to the beehive etc etc

people have short memories ,especially politicians, a few days after the ride people forget! unless ofcourse it is thrown in their faces again and again and again.
i have a few ideas (for example) arranging for white crosses, to be put at every couple of hundred meters on the cheese cutters. to make people see.
or signs erected on the side of the motorway, even just little signs like the m.o.t put on certain roads,like (Wire cutters..are deadly) if we have a unified campaign and everyone from kb makes just "one sign", that will put a heck of a lot of signs out there,
we could arrange a suitable day, where we will erect all of them, watch the press have a field day:clap:
imagine if we all made half a dozen signs, now that would make people notice!!

WarlockNZ
24th October 2007, 10:58
You could always try letting the Transport Reporter at the New Zealand Herald know.

His email address is mathew.dearnaley@nzherald.co.nz

scracha
24th October 2007, 11:33
How's about someone makes up a one or two page flyer for the rest of us to email to our mates, stick on webbysites and to print out and give to motorcycle shops?

I'd offer to do it but my design skills are $hite and to be quite honest I'm up to the eyeballs with work.

Word / Publisher / whatever and no doubt someone will convert it to PDF.

Disco Dan
24th October 2007, 11:36
Could finish at AUT just like the Westpac ride? Or would somewhere more central be better?

I agree to "protest in the park" in central city ! !

sunhuntin
24th October 2007, 11:51
cant help with organisation, but i WILL attend a wellington rally, and will try and gather as many local riders to attend as well.

The Pastor
24th October 2007, 11:55
I will def be there, and will post up and email the flyer around the office.


I think the transit office would be cool, or the pig house in albany on the shore - lots of parking there.

Maybe we could all stop ON the harbour bridge? Just for a good 5 min - good photo op for the papers / news.

Quasievil
24th October 2007, 15:35
Bumpy bump

blade1000
24th October 2007, 15:41
im in to and know of a number of people who will be in to where are we meeting in auckland for the start point

Ozzie
24th October 2007, 17:40
Would the Puke raceway be a good place to start?

Would they be keen?

Is it too far out of the way?

Donor
24th October 2007, 17:44
BP at the top of the Bombays - LARGE parking area there 'cos of the trucks, plus we get to take in the whole of the southern motorway.

Certainly get a few looks covering that kinda distance...

more_fasterer
24th October 2007, 17:46
I think the transit office would be cool, or the pig house in albany on the shore - lots of parking there.

Yup plenty of space at the park n ride next to the cop shop on Constellation drive.

Will
24th October 2007, 17:48
Why not start and end with the cheesecutters/wires?
The "wires" start north of Huntly, so if you start it about the same place it will give the bikers around Hamiltom a chance to be involved.
Where do they end on the northern motorway? Orewa?

crashe
24th October 2007, 17:48
BP at the top of the Bombays - LARGE parking area there 'cos of the trucks, plus we get to take in the whole of the southern motorway.

Certainly get a few looks covering that kinda distance...


Or Karaka (sp) Horse stud yards........
that place is used by bikes as well on fundraiser rides.

It can hold hundreds of bikes too...... just need to get their permission.... and as long as they arent using the place to sell horses that day. Dont want to upset the thoroughbred horses etc.



End up at Aotea Square......(lots of room to aprk there and on the roadside) or up over the harbour bridge at AUT - huge carpark there too.

Need permission from AK city council for Aotea Square.

Lissa
24th October 2007, 18:11
Sorry I cant organise the Welly Rally as I dont know the welly region too well and I am not over that way too often, BUT I will be there and will support/help as best I can whomever does decide to organise it.

NighthawkNZ
24th October 2007, 18:17
The last protest run I did was back in 1993 run by BRONZ 10,000 bikers on parliments doorstep... (was protest against the raising of ACC levey's which would have increased the rego for ride 300%) Bikers from all round NZ came to that... I rode down from Napier...

If you want something to happen and make them listen... got to Wellington and make it happen. Get BRONZ, and the various bike clubs involved they usually have a voice and contacts with councils, and land transport etc, approch the papers and media pointing out the dangers see if the are will to do a 60min 20/20 story, and start a petition... http://www.ipetitions.com/start-petition/

Sanx
24th October 2007, 18:28
Flyers
I can help with the design of these, and their distribution.

Campaign website
Again, if one is required, I can create one with the function to run an online petition.

Ride
I'll be there. I have also emailed National List MP Dr Jackie Blue (I was on her campaign team last election) to see if she would like to attend the protest ride. The 'Dr' in her name is not a PhD - she's a medical doctor and so will have some idea of the injuries sustained.

Please let me know if any help is required.

NighthawkNZ
24th October 2007, 18:33
Flyers
I can help with the design of these, and their distribution.

Campaign website
Again, if one is required, I can create one with the function to run an online petition.

Please let me know if any help is required.

ditto... I can help there as well...

kinger
24th October 2007, 19:03
It sounds as if theremay be a Welly?Auckland split here.
Myself, I'll go where the bigger impact is made as both are the sameish ride for me, and for that I'll wait on updates. But people, please get a concerted effort to at least one of them. And with the timing, could I suggest a rushhour crawling departure time?
Having seen fuel, protests collapse in UK before we arrived here, I'd just like to say that a united front and gross inconvenience in one town town has more impact than numerous small events.
Also, if you have press contacts, warn them off now. Get them there.

Cr1MiNaL
24th October 2007, 19:07
U guys have something going here... I will definately b there and will try and round up as many people as I can. I spoke to a police officer recently and he told me they were already looking into modifying it.

The Joka
24th October 2007, 20:13
Come up the Southern Motorway and off at Hobson St (is that the big one way downtown or is it Nelson St) and then come back up Queen Street, turn left on K'Rd over the Grafton Bridge and end it at the Musuem!

Government wont like Tourist being involved, as the parking is normally used for tourist buses. The publicity of 1000+ bikes rolling up Queen Street would be massive...

I don't mind helping in anyway 021 520 639, lets get these things safe!

Got a few mates that would be keen to follow or lead in cars - they would happily toot away to draw more attention!

Brett
24th October 2007, 20:24
Lloyd Elsmore Park would be a good place to start. It links straight off Pakuranga Highway and has a pretty straight run to the motorway. Main appeal is that a few thousand bikes could be fit into the park. Only concern might be weekend sports/parents using the car parkings...

Magua
24th October 2007, 20:46
I think the central city would be best. A mass of bikers moving down queen street is bound to gain plenty of attention. The museum would make a good final destination.

Sanx
24th October 2007, 20:58
Just thinking ... should we publically refer to the wire rope barriers as 'cheesecutters'. We know what we're talking about, but the general public will probably not. Even my father (a biker in the UK for more years than I've been alive) didn't immediately understand what I meant by 'cheesecutter barriers'. 'Wire-rope barriers' might be a better term to use in campaign literature; especially signs, stickers, etc. that have only enough room for a few words. The public will understand that term, and its significance.

jafar
24th October 2007, 21:13
Would the Puke raceway be a good place to start?

Would they be keen?

Is it too far out of the way?

Drury weigh bridge might be better , there is plenty of parking space & is right next to the m'way.
:Police: don't seem to use it much on a saturday

The Joka
24th October 2007, 22:18
Could start a Pokeno Shops.

At the start of the motorway farside of the Bombays.

With the petrol station and the place that does those fantastic Bacon sandwiches.

Their is loads of parking with a Pub that wont be in use at that time. A truck stop, Petrol station and a small shopping mall.

Would be a clean run with loads of space for so many bikes.. Less likelyhood of a whoopsie daisy!

Gremlin
24th October 2007, 22:31
Only concern might be weekend sports/parents using the car parkings...
Its generally heavily used on the weekend. Also, not an easy place to get to, for a start, for people coming from the south. SE Highway onramp also takes you too close to the city before you're on the motorway I reckon?

Somewhere south of auckland, north of huntly is the best bet I reckon (plenty of places have been suggested). The impact of all the bikes on the motorway for so long would definitely be noticed.

Pancakes
24th October 2007, 22:42
Whittle down what is needed of the start/route and finish and go from there. Start is easy, needs to hold enough bikers and be near the start of the chosen route, accessable from all directions. Route, the more public the better, using areas that are kids sprts field parking etc tho may just get people pissed off and that won't help the cause. Finish of the route and the meeting point should be media friendly and condusive to inviting some traffic industry people to comment and lend weight. ie, expert Bob makes their statement with a backdrop of 1000+ bikes. Lends itself to a soundbite with impact. SO... in the public eye not in their face and I recon key known players from a number of industries will make or brake it. People are inherantly selfish and that can be appealed to (I know your not, me neither :msn-wink:, but those other people are). Some bases to cover would be financial, ACC covering the cost of the barriers in terms of deaths and greater injury affecting all our taxes etc. Personal, parents who are tidy and TV friendly who may have lost children or partners who have lost someone to relate to voting age non-riders.

just throwing things out/brainstorming. these aren't in any specific format.

motorbyclist
25th October 2007, 01:20
maybe we could all end up at aotea square? plenty of room in there, or is there something on there on a saturday?

maybe if we all invade albert park..... nah the domain sounds better.


what we could do is park in all the car parks. perfectly legal and reminds all the cagers that us bikers are doing them a favour - well no many will be too thick to get the point

Mrs Busa Pete
25th October 2007, 05:14
the wikato express way has them as well so mercer or any where for that mater .an all out atack on welly is pobobly more afective in the long run that 93 run was pritty impresive now there are more bikes nation wide the impact would be ten fold.on a local note if you start to far away from the city it gives the copps time to get us of the road and in to a controled area miles from the objective

wybmadiity
25th October 2007, 08:25
Just a thought... Sounds as though you are going to need people to stop traffic at light changes and intersections to keep the bikes together as a group... As you were..

cowboy
25th October 2007, 08:55
maybe we could all end up at aotea square? plenty of room in there, or is there something on there on a saturday?

I think there is a market day in Aotea square on Saturdays so parking could be a problem

BigRed2007
25th October 2007, 10:34
Man I would love to join in the protest

Still saving up for me bike...... but I am very sad about what happened to DAN :(

If you get ur protest on Youtube and anything else internet, its more likely to get coverage INTERNATIONALLY

Lets use our international contacts to get the GLobal focus on this problem...

1000 nz bikers is great but if we can get 10000 international riders to send it petitions would be even more powerful. I am sure you guys will have contacts with global riders.

bert_is_evil
25th October 2007, 10:39
Flyers
I can help with the design of these, and their distribution.
.
I'm happy to spend some time rubberbanding these to bikes parked around the Welly CBD.


Ayone hazzard a guesstimate on how long the protest is likely to go for? I might not be able to make the start/end depending on the time of my Softball game but will definitely make the effort to be there if I can

Colapop
25th October 2007, 10:46
As of this morning I have spoken to a couple of Hutt bike shops down here. Will be out talking to Wgtn bike shops this arvo. Because of the drags out at Masterton on Saturday the 3rd and a lot of people work on Saturday's, it has been suggested that the ride be held on Sunday the 11th. I will put a thread up shortly about it.

bert_is_evil
25th October 2007, 10:49
Lot's of people have sports on Saturdays - I'd definitely be there if it was changed to Sunday.

EJK
25th October 2007, 10:52
Government wont like Tourist being involved, as the parking is normally used for tourist buses. The publicity of 1000+ bikes rolling up Queen Street would be massive...


Maybe we could all stop ON the harbour bridge? Just for a good 5 min - good photo op for the papers / news.

How about both? ;)

The Pastor
25th October 2007, 11:11
actually thats not a bad idea, kill 2 birds with one stone.

EJK
25th October 2007, 11:27
They are both near togehter so it might work :yes:

Ozzie
25th October 2007, 11:42
except that we are coming from south, so go over the bridge twice????

turn around where? stop going which direction?

might be a way to have the westies and northern crew to meet.

like 3 big groups, meeting north of the bridge to stop on the bridge enmass, to then go on to the museum perhaps?

Pancakes
25th October 2007, 13:13
It needs to be visually spectacular for TV/the papers or it won't get on. How many big stories don't get covered these days cos something more visually entertaining got shot? And I really think the idea needs to not piss people off. Blocking roads etc won't make many friends.

What about stopping on the sides of the road where there's room and also WRB's holding a small white cross each? Lots of cars going by seeing easily recognised symbols (crosses for road death) and will wonder what its all about. Then we go on to parking area's with the right spokes people and the publics curiosity will be addressed through the media. Won't piss people off, will attract media, will put us in a position to get maximum exposure?

edit, by road I meant motorway, mercer carriageway etc

Krayy
25th October 2007, 16:38
Drury weigh bridge might be better , there is plenty of parking space & is right next to the m'way.
I vote for starting at Drury weigh bridge. It also has some sports fields next to it for extra space.

I would also suggest riding past the 'Cutters where Dan had his accident at 70km/h to indicate the minimum unsafe speed and then get off the m/way at Manukau and go to the Events Center. Minimum non-mway impact, but enough of a distance at 70km/h to be noticed.

Ice_Monsta
26th October 2007, 07:53
Lloyd Elsmore Park would be a good place to start. It links straight off Pakuranga Highway and has a pretty straight run to the motorway. Main appeal is that a few thousand bikes could be fit into the park. Only concern might be weekend sports/parents using the car parkings...

I agree this is a very large park and would be good for the starting point, soccer season is over, only cricketers would be on the grounds i think? that is a huuuuuge parking area. It's the one opposite the netball courts by the Howick Little Theatre (The entrance closest to Pakuranga College if you want to look it up on a map.

UberRhys
26th October 2007, 08:23
Some of the things we need help with in organizing this ride. If you are able to help, please let us know.

Ride destination:
The route will be north bound along the southern motorway, but we need a place to finish the ride that has the space for all the bikes to park and riders to congregate.

Is there a start point organised yet? BP Bombay has a truck stop out the back of the forecourt which would hold heaps and a possible finish point might be AIT as per Westpac Run. Just my 2c.

Magua
26th October 2007, 09:47
I think there is a market day in Aotea square on Saturdays so parking could be a problem

'Every Friday and Saturday from 10.00am to 6.00pm'.

Phil W
26th October 2007, 10:05
Love the idea of stopping on the bridge, but agree we wont make many friends (do we have any anyway I wonder?).
Queen Street, maximum impact on a Sat morning, got to be the way to go to get best coverage for the cause. Please don't change to Sunday, no one will give a damn what we do.
So my vote is Queen Street around mid day on Sat. Across the bridge and end somewhere public.
Have we got a starting place yet?

Phil W
26th October 2007, 10:12
AND...
Does anyone know if we will be classed as terrorists for doing this?
AND...
Who will counsel the Harley riders after the ride if they have to ride with the rest of us? Could be traumatic for them.:2guns::2guns:

Magua
26th October 2007, 10:18
I don't like the idea of stopping on the bridge. This ride is for the removal of those bloody barriers in the name of safety. Stopping on the bridge could be rather hazardous, sending out the wrong message.

Ozzie
26th October 2007, 10:56
Stopping on the bridge could be rather hazardous, sending out the wrong message.

Agreed 7890

Indiana_Jones
26th October 2007, 11:44
Well whatever we do end up doing, be sure to give the media a heads up about our plans

-Indy

Ozzie
26th October 2007, 14:29
Would like an organiser to make a final call on start point at least, so we can print some stuff out and make it known to non KB bikers.

Maha
26th October 2007, 14:30
I don't like the idea of stopping on the bridge. This ride is for the removal of those bloody barriers in the name of safety. Stopping on the bridge could be rather hazardous, sending out the wrong message.

I agree, its a total wanky idea.....

RiderInBlack
26th October 2007, 14:46
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Same......And me too.

SpankMe
26th October 2007, 15:11
Can anyone tell me what this empty space is next to the carpark and is it fenced off?

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.853501,174.776575&spn=0.002618,0.007607&t=k&z=18&om=1

Usarka
26th October 2007, 15:14
Can anyone tell me what this empty space is next to the carpark and is it fenced off?

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.853501,174.776575&spn=0.002618,0.007607&t=k&z=18&om=1

Looks like carlaw park

discotex
26th October 2007, 15:15
Can anyone tell me what this empty space is next to the carpark and is it fenced off?

http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.853501,174.776575&spn=0.002618,0.007607&t=k&z=18&om=1

That looks a lot like Carlaw park...

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&time=&date=&ttype=&q=carlaw+park,+nz&sll=-36.853282,174.775786&sspn=0.00203,0.003648&ie=UTF8&ll=-36.853372,174.7754&spn=0.004061,0.010815&t=k&z=17&iwloc=addr&om=1

EDIT: Once proposed site for Stadium New Zealand....... (and dang.. beaten to it.. :second:)

Maha
26th October 2007, 15:16
And haven't they been in there digging it up in the last few weeks?

SpankMe
26th October 2007, 15:27
Probably can't use it.

Anyway, right now it's looking like the following:

Meet at Ramarama exit on the west side of the motorway (left turn when coming southbound) on Ararimu road. Everyone will park on the side of the road until we leave.

Route will be SH1 north to Auckland domain. But just looking at the best way to get from the motorway to the domain.

I am thinking turnoff Symonds St exit (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.863356,174.768008&spn=0.005236,0.015213&t=h&z=17&om=1) then onto N Western Motorway exit. Turn right at Nicholls Ln (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.852909,174.775829&spn=0.005237,0.015213&t=h&z=17&om=1), then do a U turn back onto Stanly St, then left at Lower Domain Dr up to the domain.

Just need confirmation than this route works and is best as I'm in Christchurch so unable to check it myself.

Donor
26th October 2007, 15:32
Off at Kyber Pass, right, then left onto Park Rd by Lion Breweries, enter via the drive before Auck Hospital... might need to see if we can get an escort off the off ramp mind you...

:edit: Perhaps Bykey Cop could be approached for a little help with this?

SpankMe
26th October 2007, 15:33
We need a route with as few traffic lights as possible as we wont have police escort.

Ozzie
26th October 2007, 15:55
Possible start points.

There is a big oval and parking just off the motorway at Drury, on the northbound side, not sure how populated it will be tho.

There is a fairly long straight tretch of road running alongside the northbound lanes of the southern at Papakura off ramp. This goes to a kindy and is unlikely to be being used.

Both places have plenty of room for bikes to be safely congregating.

The ramarama road might be a bit dodgy, depending how many show, and how long they are waiting.

Best bet would be the truck stop at the Puke turnoff though, plenty of room there, and they would be unlikely to mind give the potential business

Cr1MiNaL
26th October 2007, 16:52
We need a route with as few traffic lights as possible as we wont have police escort.

we want a police escort...

Zapf
26th October 2007, 17:09
I will go for a scout later tonight.

Felix

kevfromcoro
26th October 2007, 18:12
That road by the Papakura ramp would be good.
Done a 4wd run from there years ago...
lots of room...and close to the motorway

JKWNZ
26th October 2007, 18:51
Pretty sure there is no right turn into Nicholls Lane.

You could get off at Wellesley st to head up into the domain via the bendies on the Lower Domain road (only two sets of lights).

Wouldn't a police escort be a good idea, especially they are on bikes!

Pancakes
26th October 2007, 19:20
............. Perhaps Bykey Cop could be approached for a little help with this?

Nodman is a real sweet dood and bike copper too. Have met him in the course of his duties and he seems really helpfull. I'd be happy to get in touch with him but Spank, this is kinda your baby so I'll wait to see what you think. There is also another cop who drives one of the covered utes and seems pretty high up in things but rides and knows Frosty and always turns up to cover bike accidents etc if he can so might be another good one to get on-side?

SpankMe
26th October 2007, 19:56
Nodman is a real sweet dood and bike copper too. Have met him in the course of his duties and he seems really helpfull. I'd be happy to get in touch with him but Spank, this is kinda your baby so I'll wait to see what you think. There is also another cop who drives one of the covered utes and seems pretty high up in things but rides and knows Frosty and always turns up to cover bike accidents etc if he can so might be another good one to get on-side?

Feel free to contact anyone you think might be able to help. Let me know how it goes.

Genestho
26th October 2007, 20:26
Hi

Just reading here whats going on, sorry I cant help organise rally areas or routes, Im rather upto my ears myself with things...but just some ideas to get the word out.

When I want to do something I mass email Motorcycle Trader, Kiwibiker, Herald, local papers with a press release, and copy of whatever flyer.

I post threads at various nz sites - forums, email contact lists with flyers and ask to forward on.

Hauraki FM is my sole media partner and if you give them a call you may find they'll do up some jingles..they can do these up within 2 days but ideally need a week , even if they charge you its very very reasonable, and the pirates may even do an adlib like they did for me on the morning show.
Hauraki are very keen to get into the biker demographic.

Make sure you really sell it to the tv media as they mucked me around something chronic in regards to the run I held.

I wouldnt reccommend stopping on the bridge as youd bound to get Joe public offside, although it would be very showstoppish.

Make sure you have something planned for the otherside of the ride, people forget.

Love what your all doing - Keep plugging away at it
Cheers

"Id Rather Passenger The Number 1 Sidecar, Sideways On A Wet Track Than Passenger A DRUNK Driver"

www.badd.co.nz

puddy
26th October 2007, 20:28
I don't like the idea of stopping on the bridge. This ride is for the removal of those bloody barriers in the name of safety. Stopping on the bridge could be rather hazardous, sending out the wrong message.
Agreed. We'll only make enemies, and no friends, by stopping on the Bridge. Whoever came up with that idea should be at the back. WAY at the back!

Pancakes
26th October 2007, 20:58
I see the request for red arm bands. So we come off looking well organised etc does someone do bulk material or could make up a few hundred bands? Ideally everyone will have them on the same arm, same looking bands so without any thought at all the puplic will see us as one massive group from all walks of life. Sooooo, who's got a bolt of red lycra or similar and an overlocker? I don't think money would be a problem at the meeting point. Obviously proffiteers would have to live with themselves but a $1 donation or something should cover it?

Luckylegs
26th October 2007, 21:30
Is there a reason for Red Arm Bands... I have to admit that my very first thought was of Nazi Arm bands (being red and all). Now this could be completely due to the fact that Ive been watching too much history channel, but...

If this my first thought Id hate to think the "cynical public" do to (be it subconciously or not) and this hinders support...

Cr1MiNaL
26th October 2007, 21:40
arm bands are am excellend idea Pancakes... only we neednd ask one person to organise these... those concerned will be able to run down to the warehouse or sumfin and grab a ribbon to tie arnd ur arm... (right arm for instance as we get passed to the right so is better noticable). My .5 c

Zapf
26th October 2007, 22:40
Red arm bands.... everyone go and get some red electrical insulation tape. E.g BYO makes logistic much easier.

We will make up some later on and sell them for donation to drive the campaign.

motorbyclist
26th October 2007, 22:56
so are we finishing up at the domain?

i was hoping for something more dramatic.... like outside ltnz....

Gremlin
27th October 2007, 02:36
I am thinking turnoff Symonds St exit (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.863356,174.768008&spn=0.005236,0.015213&t=h&z=17&om=1) then onto N Western Motorway exit. Turn right at Nicholls Ln (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.852909,174.775829&spn=0.005237,0.015213&t=h&z=17&om=1), then do a U turn back onto Stanly St, then left at Lower Domain Dr up to the domain.
'fraid it won't. No Right Turn into Nicholls Lane.


You could get off at Wellesley st to head up into the domain via the bendies on the Lower Domain road (only two sets of lights).
This should work, and isn't generally used heavily either (always seems to be quiet unless the middle of rush hour). Wellesly off ramp is the middle off ramp of 3 on one exit. Get off at Wellesly, turn right, left onto Stanley, and follow it round onto Lower Domain Rd. Potential busy as hell bit would be going across Stanley Street, as that off ramp is used a bit, and some vehicles do go into the domain.

Patch
27th October 2007, 04:15
Probably can't use it.

Anyway, right now it's looking like the following:

Meet at Ramarama exit on the west side of the motorway (left turn when coming southbound) on Ararimu road. Everyone will park on the side of the road until we leave.

Route will be SH1 north to Auckland domain. But just looking at the best way to get from the motorway to the domain.

I am thinking turnoff Symonds St exit (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.863356,174.768008&spn=0.005236,0.015213&t=h&z=17&om=1) then onto N Western Motorway exit. Turn right at Nicholls Ln (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-36.852909,174.775829&spn=0.005237,0.015213&t=h&z=17&om=1), then do a U turn back onto Stanly St, then left at Lower Domain Dr up to the domain.

Just need confirmation than this route works and is best as I'm in Christchurch so unable to check it myself.


It would be a whole lot easier to take the Port exit off the motorway (down the hill) into Stanley Street, turn right at the lights into and up Parnell Rise.

The next set of lights is St. Stephens Ave and Ayr Street which are generally green (at the same time, we drive straight ahead,) and turn right into Domain Drive arriving at The Musesum carpark as one.


Much to dangerous to go throwing a U-turn at Stanley street into Lower Domain Drive, besides there is a major Weigh Station at the Intersection of Stanley St, Beach Rd and Parnell Rise. - translate Police watching you as you ride past.

We would get maximum exposure riding up Parnell Rise, there is not too much traffic disruption (to us, or public) but there will be a lot of people around as it is a reasonable shopping/cafe area which we would ride through and be seen.
Only two turn-offs, and 3 sets of lights which just about everybody would get through (without breaking any laws or being cause for concern)


The Khyber Pass option (in my opinion) is to short (for public exposure) not to mention the 3 sets of lights in very close proxcimity to each other. They are not timed to each other either. Risk - cars amongst bikes etc

my $0.50c (inflation)

Mountlocal1
27th October 2007, 06:03
Guys,

We really need to think of the route that is going to give us maximum exposure..No media is going to turn up and film / write about a protest that rode down some back streets and met in a park..... We need some local Auckland people to get together and nut it out.... We cannot afford to balls this up.

This seems to be the consensus in the posts / threads Ive read.

My .01c worth. (found it on the driveway)

Ozzie
27th October 2007, 07:51
We should either do Queen St, or Customs St or something similar, needs to be shite loads of people see us.

Queen St would prob result in blue problems, but off the motorway at Nelson St, along Customs, onto Beach, Stanely, Grafton then Park Rd (past the Hospital), into the top entrance to the Domain.

Heeps of people will see, not much disruption (as long as no ambulences)

...Edit.... perhaps the first part up till Stanely, then follow Patch's route up through Parnell

Bike-aholic
27th October 2007, 13:26
Why can't they close Queen st off like they do for other protests.

Ozzie
27th October 2007, 13:40
This is the TEC for the Auckland ride.

I will make a frame to take a sign behind the back window, dimensions will be 150cm x 70cm (can go a little bigger if need be).

Can also put a sign on the back gate, dimensions 138cm x 45cm, just the gate size, but any bigger will give the plod an excuse to pull me over.

For the signs, was thinking the top one saying "Warning Cheese Ahead" in big bold, then "No Cheesecutters" under it.

For the tailgate, "STOP Safety Barriers KILLING us!"

Thoughts?

Can anyone help out with the signs? I only have tarps, blue and green, white thick material would be preferable, I can help paint the signs, not an issue, and will make the frame, just need suitable material, like canvas or something.

Thinking for the bottom of the top sign ie; "No Cheesecutters", to be in red paint, with intentional runs.

motorbyclist
27th October 2007, 18:02
We should either do Queen St, or Customs St or something similar, needs to be shite loads of people see us.

Queen St would prob result in blue problems, but off the motorway at Nelson St, along Customs, onto Beach, Stanely, Grafton then Park Rd (past the Hospital), into the top entrance to the Domain.

Heeps of people will see, not much disruption (as long as no ambulences)

...Edit.... perhaps the first part up till Stanely, then follow Patch's route up through Parnell

wouldn't going along the waterfront to/from mission bay be reasonably public?

Phil W
28th October 2007, 09:04
If we get a bit of sun (yeah right) the Mission Bay road is horrendous. Kids, families, cars everywhere, no parking. Would have to ride single file. Bit like the stopping on the bridge option. Too dangerous.

Pancakes
28th October 2007, 10:15
This is the TEC for the Auckland ride.

I will make a frame to take a sign behind the back window, dimensions will be 150cm x 70cm (can go a little bigger if need be).

Can also put a sign on the back gate, dimensions 138cm x 45cm, just the gate size, but any bigger will give the plod an excuse to pull me over.

For the signs, was thinking the top one saying "Warning Cheese Ahead" in big bold, then "No Cheesecutters" under it.

For the tailgate, "STOP Safety Barriers KILLING us!"

Thoughts?

Can anyone help out with the signs? I only have tarps, blue and green, white thick material would be preferable, I can help paint the signs, not an issue, and will make the frame, just need suitable material, like canvas or something.

Thinking for the bottom of the top sign ie; "No Cheesecutters", to be in red paint, with intentional runs.

Awesome, pretty easy to see vehicle.

From a marketing point of view we need the public to understand what we're doing for two reasons. 1) Because if they don't they're not going to go home to Google "Cheesecutter Barrier" and 2) if your selling something, and we are selling this concept, and someone doesn't understand you it's like called them dumb. If you do that people won't even but something from you that they need let alone join into an idea of something that they perceive little or no benefit in.

I think "Wire Rope Barriers" clearly gives a name to cheesecutters that anyone will understand and associate with them next time they see one.

Pancakes
28th October 2007, 10:24
to add to above post.

But having the word cheesecutter does let people visualise the damage they can do.

Pixie
28th October 2007, 10:52
Awesome, pretty easy to see vehicle.

From a marketing point of view we need the public to understand what we're doing for two reasons. 1) Because if they don't they're not going to go home to Google "Cheesecutter Barrier" and 2) if your selling something, and we are selling this concept, and someone doesn't understand you it's like called them dumb. If you do that people won't even but something from you that they need let alone join into an idea of something that they perceive little or no benefit in.

I think "Wire Rope Barriers" clearly gives a name to cheesecutters that anyone will understand and associate with them next time they see one.

I agree.I think the slogan Cheesecutter Barriers is too vague for the average moron.

Killer Barriers is better. - like killer roads

Ozzie
28th October 2007, 11:51
Good point, perhaps we could do up a fact sheet to hand to people on the day. Explaining the point, and a couple of misconceptions.

eg. The cheesecutters down the centre of the road on SH1 have had a positive impact on fatalities, however more due to the fact they remove the opportunity to overtake in dumb ass places (which any barrier would do), rather than actual acidental line crossings. Given the fact they flex up to 3 meters when hit, if a car or whatever was coming the other way at that precise time, there still would be a head on.

delusionz
28th October 2007, 12:17
So is anyone doing picket signs? Or will this just end up looking like "Doods on bikes"?

Mountlocal1
28th October 2007, 18:48
It would be a whole lot easier to take the Port exit off the motorway (down the hill) into Stanley Street, turn right at the lights into and up Parnell Rise.

The next set of lights is St. Stephens Ave and Ayr Street which are generally green (at the same time, we drive straight ahead,) and turn right into Domain Drive arriving at The Musesum carpark as one.


Much to dangerous to go throwing a U-turn at Stanley street into Lower Domain Drive, besides there is a major Weigh Station at the Intersection of Stanley St, Beach Rd and Parnell Rise. - translate Police watching you as you ride past.

We would get maximum exposure riding up Parnell Rise, there is not too much traffic disruption (to us, or public) but there will be a lot of people around as it is a reasonable shopping/cafe area which we would ride through and be seen.
Only two turn-offs, and 3 sets of lights which just about everybody would get through (without breaking any laws or being cause for concern)


The Khyber Pass option (in my opinion) is to short (for public exposure) not to mention the 3 sets of lights in very close proxcimity to each other. They are not timed to each other either. Risk - cars amongst bikes etc

my $0.50c (inflation)

Since the original route is simply not going to work has anyone changed it so it does? Cant find anything about an ammended route....:blink:

0arbreaka
28th October 2007, 18:54
A novel idea would be to make some flags and fly them behind a couple bikes.

motorbyclist
28th October 2007, 22:46
Since the original route is simply not going to work has anyone changed it so it does? Cant find anything about an ammended route....:blink:

how does this look? (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=-37.029966,174.949036&spn=0.79593,1.450195&z=10&om=1&msid=109507454148945128280.00043d8b17709749f43cb)

easy to manage a large group, not as busy intersections....

EDIT: oh FFS stupid google didn't save the route

TRAINING WHEELS
29th October 2007, 00:56
What about S/ Motorway into hobson street?? (all one way rd) along the waterfront, up Queen st, Left onto K rd, over grafton and into domain??
Just an idea... lots of media as passing all tv and most radio buildings.....down side is lights but not alot of foot trafic

motorbyclist
29th October 2007, 01:59
i like that idea alot, plently of public exposure

Mountlocal1
29th October 2007, 06:18
What about S/ Motorway into hobson street?? (all one way rd) along the waterfront, up Queen st, Left onto K rd, over grafton and into domain??
Just an idea... lots of media as passing all tv and most radio buildings.....down side is lights but not alot of foot trafic

Sounds like a bloody good idea...I have emailed Spankme about the route but have had no reply yet. You guys wana give it a try? That route sounds far more appropriate to do what we want to achieve. And as for the lights / police Im sure if a group of people can walk over the harbour bridge we can ride our bike on that route. Maybe someone should raise this with the police?
Can we get a biker cops feeling bout this? :mellow:

Pancakes
29th October 2007, 09:25
I've gotten in touch with some people and have the names of a few cops who may be in a position to help with traffic and co-ordination etc. Will post when I have something solid. Would be good to have the route nailed down before I talk to them so I'm asking the right questions.

Pixie
29th October 2007, 09:33
Im sure if a group of people can walk over the harbour bridge we can ride our bike on that route. Maybe someone should raise this with the police?
:

I'm not so sure. Have your seen the colour of the average biker's skin lately?

Mountlocal1
29th October 2007, 16:26
I'm not so sure. Have your seen the colour of the average biker's skin lately?

Mmmm..... :whistle:

Ixion
29th October 2007, 18:18
Is there a reason for Red Arm Bands... I have to admit that my very first thought was of Nazi Arm bands (being red and all). Now this could be completely due to the fact that Ive been watching too much history channel, but...

If this my first thought Id hate to think the "cynical public" do to (be it subconciously or not) and this hinders support...

Think abbout what the cutters do to arms and legs. Its a symbolic slice wound.



I agree.I think the slogan Cheesecutter Barriers is too vague for the average moron.

Killer Barriers is better. - like killer roads


The Killing Lanes.

jafar
29th October 2007, 18:27
how does this look? (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=-37.029966,174.949036&spn=0.79593,1.450195&z=10&om=1&msid=109507454148945128280.00043d8b17709749f43cb)

easy to manage a large group, not as busy intersections....

EDIT: oh FFS stupid google didn't save the route

Dude , your start point is a business car park. There are over 100 bikes listed already, they ain't gunna fit in there :eek:

Ozzie
29th October 2007, 19:10
I'm not so sure. Have your seen the colour of the average biker's skin lately?

Last I knew, wire barriers weren't racist.

And, I support this on the basis that it is for the greater good of all road users, motorcyclists in particular, but not race or color specific.

Ozzie
29th October 2007, 19:11
The Killing Lanes.

You are such a poet IX

Mountlocal1
29th October 2007, 19:15
What about S/ Motorway into hobson street?? (all one way rd) along the waterfront, up Queen st, Left onto K rd, over grafton and into domain??
Just an idea... lots of media as passing all tv and most radio buildings.....down side is lights but not alot of foot trafic

This is the best route I think that has been bought up yet.... Can we get some support behind getting the route changed to something like this?

Ozzie
29th October 2007, 19:20
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=59690

a suggested accompanying note to the flyer

SpankMe
29th October 2007, 19:43
Someone actually needs to take their bike on these suggested routes to make sure a few hundred bikes wont have a problem negotiating them. Queen St still has road works going on the last time I was there.

Mountlocal1
29th October 2007, 19:48
Someone actually needs to take their bike on these suggested routes to make sure a few hundred bikes wont have a problem negotiating them. Queen St still has road works going on the last time I was there.

Any volunteers???

The Joka
29th October 2007, 22:05
I don't mind going for a ride...

However!

I have travelled this route so many times not funny!

Head South down Motorway from start point!

Get off motorway at Nelson street
Turn right onto Wellesley Street
Turn Right up Queen Street
Get to top of Queen st, turn left into K Rd
Straight across Grafton Bridge
Straight across onto Park Road
Right into Domian Drive

Problems:

Queens Street has road works, Wellesley Str will bypass most of them.

9 Sets of lights to get police to hold traffic

Grafton Bridge is one lane, but so is most roads heading to Domain.

Good Points:

Nelson street is 3 lanes into Wellesley which is 3 lanes into Queen which is 2 lanes

Big public display without being over the top, or dangerous!

Easy to follow & well sign posted:

http://www.smaps.co.nz/nz/auckland/auckland+central/nelson+street/

Draco
29th October 2007, 22:22
So is anyone doing picket signs? Or will this just end up looking like "Doods on bikes"?

Are you volunteering? Please remember people that this initial protest ride was organised at short notice to try capitolize on the initial media interest. Anyone participating in this should be doing so because they feel strongly about removing these barriers, not because they are looking for an entertaining day out. Those of us involved so far are putting in long hours behind the scenes researching, organizing, co-ordinating, while we still work full time/study/have family etc. We are relying on you all to make your signs, armbands etc. We are working late every night to try get the petition ready for signing at the final destination point, surely that would help stop us looking like "doods on bikes". Much more organised events will come later when we have time for planning. Maybe even another protest ride with higher profile??? if its supported???

Pancakes
30th October 2007, 11:21
I have the names of some cops who are very posibly in a position to help with traffic etc. No promisies until I've had a talk to them and I would really prefer a route to be set first. Times running out but I'm not gonna look like a wally and discredit the issue we are protesting by getting help then changing the plans on them. I am not able to make the ride but am happy to kiss the right asses to see what help we can get with the traffic lights etc. Another idea might just to get some tidy fluro vests and cones and if it looks professional just stop the cars outselves for 5 mins. I've climbed some very pulic buildings in daytime and if your in your shorts and t shirt people stare, put a flashing light on your van, cordon off the footpath and no-one questions you. Solid route please.

SpankMe
30th October 2007, 16:24
If we can't get police help to stop traffic at lights, we can't have a route with too many traffic lights. 100-200+ bikes trying to make their way through lights with other traffic isn't going to work.

So we'll need a possible visible route if we get a police escort.

and a fall-back route if we don't that just gets us from the motorway to the domain.

Some of the organizers are meeting tonight and will try and decide on this.

Mountlocal1
30th October 2007, 16:30
If we can't get police help to stop traffic at lights, we can't have a route with too many traffic lights. 100-200+ bikes trying to make their way through lights with other traffic isn't going to work.

So we'll need a possible visible route if we get a police escort.

and a fall-back route if we don't that just gets us from the motorway to the domain.

Some of the organizers are meeting tonight and will try and decide on this.

Hey guys,
Just to let you know we all really appreciate what you are doing with putting so much time into organising all of this :yes:. I hope none of the suggestions that have been made sound like us bitching, I guess we are all just very eager for it to work out. Good luck with the meeting tonight!

Cheers!

Ixion
30th October 2007, 16:52
If we can't get police help to stop traffic at lights, we can't have a route with too many traffic lights. 100-200+ bikes trying to make their way through lights with other traffic isn't going to work.

So we'll need a possible visible route if we get a police escort.

and a fall-back route if we don't that just gets us from the motorway to the domain.

Some of the organizers are meeting tonight and will try and decide on this.

Most visble way from motorway to Domain is off at Khyber Pass. Turn right, left at first lights (Park Road I think). Then right at next lights and left into Domain. Even if some of the riders have to stop, they should be able to see where the others have gone. Just a pointer on the two corners.

RiderInBlack
30th October 2007, 20:09
Most visble way from motorway to Domain is off at Khyber Pass. Turn right, left at first lights (Park Road I think). Then right at next lights and left into Domain. Even if some of the riders have to stop, they should be able to see where the others have gone. Just a pointer on the two corners.Agree with having pointers. Having enough riders to act as pointers for each intersection where riders need ta turn would be great.

Ozzie
30th October 2007, 20:39
120 from this site alone coming, should cover it.

BUT, we need some direction, where exactly are we going?????

Filterer
30th October 2007, 21:41
120 from this site alone coming, should cover it.

How many are we expecting at the Auckland event, I would have thought we could have got over 120 from here!

Mountlocal1
30th October 2007, 21:45
How many are we expecting at the Auckland event, I would have thought we could have got over 120 from here!

Hmmm... You would think so aye? :blink:

motorbyclist
30th October 2007, 21:49
might want to rewrite that sig there...

jafar
30th October 2007, 21:50
Hmmm... You would think so aye? :blink:

Work on about twice the number that have registered, unless its raining then work on half the number that have registered

motorbyclist
30th October 2007, 21:55
guy fawkes weekend - pretty good chance of rain....

Mountlocal1
30th October 2007, 21:59
might want to rewrite that sig there...

? Im probly missing the obvious? :blink:

motorbyclist
30th October 2007, 22:20
"ban 'the cheesecutters' ride", (ride to ban the cutters)

or

ban "the cheesecutters ride"? (ban the ride)


don't ask how i misread that at first glance

Mountlocal1
31st October 2007, 08:01
"ban 'the cheesecutters' ride", (ride to ban the cutters)

or

ban "the cheesecutters ride"? (ban the ride)


don't ask how i misread that at first glance

School teacher? Ha ha... All good! I panicked and took it off...

Bike-aholic
31st October 2007, 12:33
Rain is the forcast for saturday, will give me a chance to test out me new waterproof gloves :yes:


http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=auckland

Mountlocal1
31st October 2007, 13:10
Rain is the forcast for saturday, will give me a chance to test out me new waterproof gloves :yes:


http://www.metservice.co.nz/default/index.php?alias=auckland

Thats not cool! My rear is getting pretty low and cant get a new one till next week.... Not cool...:oi-grr:

jafar
31st October 2007, 16:19
Probably can't use it.

Anyway, right now it's looking like the following:

Meet at Ramarama exit on the west side of the motorway (left turn when coming southbound) on Ararimu road. Everyone will park on the side of the road until we leave.

To meet 'on the west side you will have to turn RIGHT when comming south, if you turn left & stop you are in the carpark of Farrell's nurseries. Farrell's are OPEN saturday !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The carpark will have CUSTOMERS !!!!!!!!
200 + BIKES parking in there isn't an option


how does this look? (http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&ll=-37.029966,174.949036&spn=0.79593,1.450195&z=10&om=1&msid=109507454148945128280.00043d8b17709749f43cb)

easy to manage a large group, not as busy intersections....

EDIT: oh FFS stupid google didn't save the route

Your map is the carpark for a school on the EAST SIDE not the WEST !!!!!
you can get mabey 5 or 6 cars in it. the rest is closed off.
200+ bikes will not get in there, on top of that this is a main road used by Stephensons Quarry's TRUCK & TRAILER UNITS & they work on Saturday . Totally unsuitable for a large number of bikes . If using the West Side of Ararimu Road there is nowhere there for this number of bikes to safely park.

My suggestion is to move the start point to the BP @ Bombay. West side of the truck park should have enough room for the numbers we are expecting

motorbyclist
31st October 2007, 17:22
yeah, that map was made using the intructions to turn left, so i assumed we were going to maul the nearest parking lot.

moving the start this late in the game may be a disaster.... i've seen flyers up quoting ramamara exit

jafar
31st October 2007, 17:33
yeah, that map was made using the intructions to turn left, so i assumed we were going to maul the nearest parking lot.

moving the start this late in the game may be a disaster.... i've seen flyers up quoting ramamara exit

As stated , this is a business carpark, the nursery is open from 9.00 am to mid afternoon on a saturday.
The one shown in your map is a school carpark & is closed except for the little bit on the roadside . 5 or 6 cars max.
Not moving the start could be a bigger disaster.
Apart from anything else there are no facilities @ Ramarama, not even a shit house . I would think if the predicted 200+ bikes show up Someone will need to pee @ the very least.

The Joka
31st October 2007, 18:07
Rain - oh well!

My wet weathers leak like a sive! This is way more important than getting a little wet & cold!:cold:

If you worried about safety take a car - at the end of day if they have cars and bikes protesting it will have more effect! :rockon:

As for the parking at the school DUDE we are on bikes go around the gates?? Or ask the school to unlock them for us or give us a key for the day - imagine they wouldn't mind! :bash:

Route: All I know is where we are starting and finishing - I have made suggestions and will leave it to the guys that are doing a FARKIN LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES!

Just hope that they organise it with maps if they leave it too late to put up here!

SO DONT BAG THIS OR PUT NEGATIVE CONATATIONS ON IT - WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN!:rockon:

puddy
31st October 2007, 18:38
Not moving the start could be a bigger disaster.

Agreed.......

jafar
31st October 2007, 18:41
As for the parking at the school DUDE we are on bikes go around the gates?? Or ask the school to unlock them for us or give us a key for the day - imagine they wouldn't mind! :bash:

Route: All I know is where we are starting and finishing - I have made suggestions and will leave it to the guys that are doing a FARKIN LOT OF WORK BEHIND THE SCENES!

Just hope that they organise it with maps if they leave it too late to put up here!


SO DONT BAG THIS OR PUT NEGATIVE CONATATIONS ON IT - WE NEED ALL THE SUPPORT WE CAN!:rockon:

Yeah riiight they will give you a key to the skool cos you have 200 bikes comming??? :spanking: Not a hope in hell of getting that :lol::lol:

Totally agree with you, BUT shutting down an innocent local business or trespassing in a skool with TV 3's camera's there ??? Yep thats a good idea:rolleyes: We need all the POSITIVE support we can get & neither of these will do that:pinch:
As it stands we have a dubious start point & a finish point (museum) but no clue as to HOW we are getting there or if the :Police: will shut off some lights so we can all get through safely or even if the Auckland city council have been approached for a permit to hold a 'parade' through their streets..... This ride seems to be more about TV3's camera's & keeping the time slot we might get on the news than about safety.
TV3 might put a good ride on the news , but a complete fuck up will end up on the news as well & any credibility we might have had will be out the window. Our chances of fighting the cheese cutters or anything else then will be close to ZERO:mad:

Maha
31st October 2007, 18:44
I would think if the predicted 200+ bikes show up Someone will need to pee @ the very least.

Bring a cup?...was talking to a bloke down the road earlier about the ride, hes going to tag along, he told about a wire barrier protest ride he went on in England a few years ago 33,000 bikes!...took him 2 hours to get out of hyde park. 33,000 sounds like bullshit but its what he said.

jafar
31st October 2007, 18:50
Bring a cup?...was talking to a bloke down the road earlier about the ride, hes going to tag along, he told about a wire barrier protest ride he went on in England a few years ago 33,000 bikes!...took him 2 hours to get out of hyde park. 33,000 sounds like bullshit but its what he said.

Just nip into the kitchen & ask MOM if she would be happy to pee into a cup with 200 people watching:2thumbsup

A university guy I knew once said that if they couldn't get @ least 1,000 to a protest they wouldn't stage it... 33,000 would be ideal :jerry:

Mom
31st October 2007, 19:42
Lovely to see we are all interested and offering opinions.

I have made a committment to attend this ride on Saturday because I think these WRB's should be made safe! Personally I am 200% behind the people that are organising this ride, at short notice, with family and work committments to consider, they have a difficult job to do. Cant believe I am saying this but, wish I lived in Auckland so I could help them!

Guys see you Saturday!

RiderInBlack
31st October 2007, 20:42
Hope there is a good turn out. I have riden at Poker Runs that don't brake even if they get less than 200bikes. I hope we end up with at least this.

Gremlin
1st November 2007, 03:53
Can someone tell me how empty this piece of land would be on a Saturday from 11am to 1pm? :whistle:

Its to the left of the motorway, at Ramarama, as you head north. There is also Maher Road, just off to one side, that is a dead end. Seems to be good for stacking them in, unless someone knows something?

<img src="http://i210.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/_Gremlin/IMG_0648.jpg"

lager zombie
1st November 2007, 10:20
Hi all,

Please excuse me, I'm new. I posted this last night but this looks like the place it should have gone to.

Some one told me about this and it sounds good. One question though, last time I went to the domain on a weekend afternoon with the lady we had trouble finding parking for 1 car let alone 130 bikes. Admittedly this was a while ago, so what's the oil on best areas to find a park?

Cheers.

motorbyclist
1st November 2007, 10:47
park on the grass?

maybe around the monument/guns outside the museum?

grass shouldn't be too bad - my stand has this bit of rubber to stop it going through dirt :bleh:

(PROTIP: if you need to put your bike on it's sidestand on soft dirt/sand, bring a small block of wood or grab a bit or bark from a garden, needs only be and inch square)

Ixion
1st November 2007, 13:15
Hi all,

Please excuse me, I'm new. I posted this last night but this looks like the place it should have gone to.

Some one told me about this and it sounds good. One question though, last time I went to the domain on a weekend afternoon with the lady we had trouble finding parking for 1 car let alone 130 bikes. Admittedly this was a while ago, so what's the oil on best areas to find a park?

Cheers.

You're new to this, aren't you?

Follow the bikes in front. Park where they park. You are on a motorcycle. You park just whereever you want to. Works for me

Hopefully there will be a LOT more than 130.

carbacca
1st November 2007, 13:43
went down to ramarama today in the work cage, had a looksie around and managed to get some photos

i am not sure i see space for 200 bikes to be honest. maybe down maher road seems to be the only real option

carbacca
1st November 2007, 13:44
blah blah blah

carbacca
1st November 2007, 13:45
more ...:argh::argh::argh:

carbacca
1st November 2007, 13:46
sorry about the poor quality of these...was taking them while driving

carbacca
1st November 2007, 13:47
last ones. hope they help

Usarka
1st November 2007, 14:54
You're new to this, aren't you?

Follow the bikes in front. Park where they park. You are on a motorcycle. You park just whereever you want to. Works for me

Hopefully there will be a LOT more than 130.

huh?




It'll be a case of finding your own place to park at the domain as there isn't one spot where everyone can fit.
So DON'T be a sheep and just follow whoever is in front of you.

123456

motorbyclist
1st November 2007, 17:47
sorry about the poor quality of these...was taking them while driving

bloody cagers!:spanking:

lager zombie
1st November 2007, 18:19
You're new to this, aren't you?

Follow the bikes in front. Park where they park. You are on a motorcycle. You park just whereever you want to. Works for me

Hopefully there will be a LOT more than 130.

No not new to this. Just don't see where you are going to park all those bikes without doing so illegally. There are no parking on the grass all over the place, and I would have thought that the last thing we want to do is come across as 'lawless' bikers especially given most the publics views that it was the riders fault for doing 150kph.

All the best.

Matt_TG
1st November 2007, 18:30
It's interesting you say that, as when I discussed the ride at work and stuck a poster on the noticeboard, the comment from all the staff was along the lines of "do the crime do the time". It wasn't until I took the discussion further they saw where we were coming from, but I don't think they really were convinced. As none of them rode bikes they look at it as something that won't affect them I guess.

We need to be seen as firm in what we are standing for but not lawless, as that would enforce many of the public's views.

jafar
1st November 2007, 18:44
You're new to this, aren't you?

Follow the bikes in front. Park where they park. You are on a motorcycle. You park just whereever you want to. Works for me

Hopefully there will be a LOT more than 130.

TV 3 are supposed to have camera's there, in short we will be on display. Park where ever ? :niceone:


No not new to this. Just don't see where you are going to park all those bikes without doing so illegally. There are no parking on the grass all over the place, and I would have thought that the last thing we want to do is come across as 'lawless' bikers especially given most the publics views that it was the riders fault for doing 150kph.

All the best.

Agreed


It's interesting you say that, as when I discussed the ride at work and stuck a poster on the noticeboard, the comment from all the staff was along the lines of "do the crime do the time". It wasn't until I took the discussion further they saw where we were coming from, but I don't think they really were convinced. As none of them rode bikes they look at it as something that won't affect them I guess.

We need to be seen as firm in what we are standing for but not lawless, as that would enforce many of the public's views.

Yep I had this too

Maha
1st November 2007, 18:49
TV 3 are supposed to have camera's there, in short we will be on display. Park where ever ? :niceone:



I better pack the 'Good behavour' Manbag.....whats next? Campbell Live?...:woohoo:

jafar
1st November 2007, 18:52
Can someone tell me how empty this piece of land would be on a Saturday from 11am to 1pm? :whistle:

Should be as you have photographed it, though I don't like your chances of stacking 200 bikes in there. 30 mabey & even that would be a pinch.:(

Ixion
1st November 2007, 19:21
Goodness me, how much room do you people need ? There'll be plenty of room.

jafar
1st November 2007, 19:38
Goodness me, how much room do you people need ? There'll be plenty of room.

:rofl::rofl:

we will see on saturday :corn:

Mom
1st November 2007, 19:41
Goodness me, how much room do you people need ? There'll be plenty of room.

We will make the room, it will be fine. No one needs to stress here, we ride bikes for heavens sake! As far the the Domain is concerned, park where you can, my suggestion is to go right up the top and park above the war memorial. It is large flat, sealed area.........enough of us up there and hey presto, instant parking lot! Respectfully!! No B/S! Great for cameras to film, nice backdrop.

DEATH_INC.
1st November 2007, 19:50
We will make the room, it will be fine. No one needs to stress here, we ride bikes for heavens sake! As far the the Domain is concerned, park where you can, my suggestion is to go right up the top and park above the war memorial. It is large flat, sealed area.........enough of us up there and hey presto, instant parking lot! Respectfully!! No B/S! Great for cameras to film, nice backdrop.
Please people, if you park near the memorial, treat it with the respect our fallen soldiers deserve.
Thanks.

Usarka
1st November 2007, 19:53
It is large flat, sealed area.........enough of us up there and hey presto, instant parking lot! Respectfully!! No B/S! Great for cameras to film, nice backdrop.

I think it's stairs above and below that flat bit by the centotauph (sp, too much gin).

she'll be right eh.

Mom
1st November 2007, 20:00
Please people, if you park near the memorial, treat it with the respect our fallen soldiers deserve.
Thanks.

Totally agree! This is a quiet war memorial, there is actually tour bus parking, if I stand looking at the front of the museum its to the right, take a couple of those places and then merge around the vicinity........no bullshit! just a quiet parking and gathering.



she'll be right eh.

No, we will be sensible and behaved, not she'll be right!

But I know what you mean.

Ixion
1st November 2007, 21:17
Well, following the precept of the great Duke, I got upon my horse and went to see for myself. In the rain I might add.

There's a shedload of parking at Ramarama, you could moor the Queen Mary there (well, y'couldn't of course, 'cos there's no water, but y'know what I mean ) Great big wide gravel shoulders running away on both sides of the motorway, y'could park a fleet of B trains there , or half a fleet of Goldwings, I guess. And overflow can spread down that Mahler Road, shoulders are bad, but I reckon we could take up half the road, there'd be bugger all traffic. And further up a bit is a superette with a big carpark. Late comers will just have to use a bit of initiative.

And there's that place Mr Gremlin photographed, I didn't find that. cos I didn't look, cos I was cold n wet, 'n late for m' Horlicks and slippers. The sacrifices I make, I just hope that Helmut von Hornihumper, the god of loony bikers took notice of what I do for the faith. Anyway that bit of gravel should hold another 50 or 100. Bear in mind we're not going to be there long, most folk will only be there 15 or 20 minutes.

Repeat the bit about respecting the Cenotaph, keep away from that folks. Buts there's heaps and heaps of parking at the Domain. Just spread out round the curley bits. The duckpond is reserved for the chookchasers (Unless someone turns up on a Spragthorp).

EDIT: Actually, there was quite a bit of water, but not enough to get the Queen Mary in.

Gremlin
2nd November 2007, 01:19
:rofl::rofl:

we will see on saturday :corn:
bikers just need to learn how to park... the area closest to the onramp will be for those organising this and that, so they're not locked in.

Other than that, experience tells me we're shocking at parking... we park all over the place. Maybe I'll get quasi's boys to also watch out for bad parkers :msn-wink:

Gremlin
2nd November 2007, 01:24
Right... more details.

I have attached a map of Auckland Domain. When we arrive, we'll aim to follow the blue route. If this has problems, you'll need to go around the domain to another entry, and park somewhere close-ish to the blue X. This is where we will meet. For the out-of-towners, I have attached a pic of what the area looks like (Yes, it will be a bit lighter :whistle:). The shot is taken from a small carpark. If we can ring it, as someone suggested, we can squeeze bikes in and around. Otherwise, park down roadsides, or something like that.

I have also attached maps of Ramarama interchange (exit 466 if coming from the North), and Bombay interchange. If for some reason, there is a problem at Ramarama, you can carry on to Bombay. From Bombay, you can go down Hillview Rd (it runs parallel to the motorway) or Great South Rd, and make your way to Bombay.

DEATH_INC.
2nd November 2007, 07:31
Got a few mates that would be keen to follow or lead in cars - they would happily toot away to draw more attention!
Bring 'em along, more than just bikes is good for the campaign. Just get 'em to tape some flyers etc to the rear windows or something....

Ozzie
2nd November 2007, 07:41
Has it been decided that we are NOT going queen st or other major road?

_Gina_
2nd November 2007, 11:40
I will be there, but will bring my three kids so therefore will be in my "super dooper company hack", upside benefits are that I will have sounds, food and drinks!!



G

Usarka
2nd November 2007, 13:24
FWIW
Just got this in an email.... Free entry to the museum on Sat....




See Darwin: for free!
Saturday 3rd November
This Saturday Newstalk ZB, is giving Aucklanders the chance to see the acclaimed Darwin exhibition for free!

Radio Network CEO John McElhinney said that Newstalk ZB is delighted to be able to offer Aucklanders and their listeners the chance to see the exhibition free of charge. “This is a major exhibition about one of the world’s most incredible men and the way his life and his theory is shown in this exhibition is totally captivating – I urge all our listeners – young and old - to make the most of this wonderful opportunity"

This Saturday 3 November. Offer applicable to Darwin only – the usual $5.00 donation will be asked for if you intend to visit the rest of the Museum’s galleries.

Ixion
2nd November 2007, 15:38
I just done a recce of the Domaiun. In the rain again!

Plenty of parking, but it's all spread out.

So if folk are going to congregate at the end to be exhorted the central point will have to be very clear.

Is there anything important happening at the end ?

Ixion
2nd November 2007, 17:13
Take care folks on the road up from Stanley St through the Domain. Its got some nice twisty bits in it, but it gets slippery when wet cos of vegetation and shit on the road. And cagers cut the corners badly. Also the exit at the top is a bit dicey, watch for cages coming round the bend to the right at speed.

Ramarama exit is 466 .

Theres a smallish car park right behind the Museum buidling too, that we may be able to take over. And more parking down by the duck pond.

DEATH_INC.
2nd November 2007, 18:28
Anyone wif a cage able to swing by here in the morn (papatoetoe) and pick up some stuff to go down?

DEATH_INC.
2nd November 2007, 18:32
Has it been decided that we are NOT going queen st or other major road?
No, not sure if the coppers are gonna help out or not....

xwhatsit
2nd November 2007, 22:33
Take care folks on the road up from Stanley St through the Domain. Its got some nice twisty bits in it, but it gets slippery when wet cos of vegetation and shit on the road. And cagers cut the corners badly. Also the exit at the top is a bit dicey, watch for cages coming round the bend to the right at speed.

I have been guilty of seeing how fast I can go from bottom to top (then back down again) in my breaks between classes. I know it is a 30kph speed limit, but those switchbacks are too fun :yes:

Leaves are a bitch in the wet. First time I found out about losing the front wheel was on that tight hairpin. Hold back your natural impulses.

See you tomorrow, guys -- might have to break it short, my sister's birthday being held back home around 2.30pm.

xgnr
2nd November 2007, 22:38
for the band?

I know I should know but cant recall.

motorbyclist
2nd November 2007, 22:49
right?

dunno, maybe i'll do both... plenty of useless red tape lying around these days;)

Ixion
3rd November 2007, 08:14
We need to have a press release ready for AFTER the ride. And we may have some interesting stuff on the political front by then.

Ixion
3rd November 2007, 08:15
for the band?

I know I should know but cant recall.

Left .

Ozzie
3rd November 2007, 14:36
Wicked turn out guys and girls, I heard there were 320 at least bikes, and half a dozen cars.

Patch was deemed by the plod to have been the wheelie rider, despite the fact that he was 2 up, and came from the opposite direction, but "I AM THE LAW" thought otherwise. Expensive jaunt for him.

The signs on the ute turned out ok (pic attached), nearly lost the top one (80kph ????), was going too fast and it came loose, was worried the patrol car behind me was going to wear it.

Big UPS to the plod (other than the wheelie thing) for turning up and making it a lot easier for all of us, and for all the riders that showed up, great effort.

:beer:

fergie
3rd November 2007, 14:44
big ups to all those who went on the ride, any tv coverage?

Ozzie
3rd November 2007, 14:50
I saw a few cameras, both TV and stills. Not sure who, but did see a TV1 car and chickee.

In short, I don't know, think so tho.

Fub@r
3rd November 2007, 14:52
big ups to all those who went on the ride, any tv coverage?

I saw TV1 there and a few reporters........have to watch tonights news.

That was a doozy of a cage pileup just before Ellerslie, nice of the cops to give us our own lane to pass the accident :)

MattyP
3rd November 2007, 14:55
Well, I went for the cheesecutter ride and am stoked to have been part of such a meaningful ride for the first time I've ridden in a group.

My GT250R now has 128kms on the clock since picking it up on Thursday and I've discovered muscles that I never knew existed (ouch!).

Felt sorry for those cars that piled up, we must have been a sight to behold! Am glad that no bikers were involved.

Home safe and sound now, and it feels good to be back on two wheels :niceone:

fireball
3rd November 2007, 14:57
That was a doozy of a cage pileup just before Ellerslie, nice of the cops to give us our own lane to pass the accident :)

as we came up to that i was thinking oh great a bike crash..... is it bad to say i was happy when i saw just the cages?

Bike-aholic
3rd November 2007, 15:00
Yep fantastic ride, glad the weather gods were kind anf yes big thumbs ups for the cops made it a bit safer.
Hope we get a result from it and get those dam WRB replaced or covered with bike friendly pads or something.

Bike-aholic
3rd November 2007, 15:04
..... is it bad to say i was happy when i saw just the cages?


LOL we just laughed our arses off too, and down the bottom of town (tinley st) we saw a red light runner net nailed by another car both were right offs :jerry:

Was a great day :niceone:

fliplid
3rd November 2007, 15:09
Very glad I was going home south bound...the tail back was still well down the road on the north side! Oh, and a few rubber neckers to deal with!

Ewan Oozarmy
3rd November 2007, 15:10
Yeah, just got back myself. What a great turnout. Well done to all that made it and a special well done to the organisers!

Ozzie
3rd November 2007, 15:10
I think the only casualty was a couple of cars having a nose to tail near the autobarn in Drury.

I was the last in the group (in the ute) and came over the rise, saw red, I jammed my anchors on, all good, checked the mirror, the patrol car behind me got close, but again, all good.

Slowly going up the hill, look behind me at the mass traffic jam, and sure enough, there were a couple of cars pulled up right next to the cutters, exchanging details. Mass cars doing the big divert around them.

BUT!

Not anything to do with us. The 2 second rule doesn't stop applying on bike protest days.

:clap:

_Gina_
3rd November 2007, 15:37
Wicked turnout guys, it was awesome turning up at Ramarama and seeing all the bikes parked up!!

Thanks to David from my work and Ozzie and the lady in the ute for playing the rear guard with me in the cars, and definitely the Police Car and Bikes, you all did a wonderful job in keeping the ride together and safe.

Suffice to say, Gina's "super dooper company hack" did well with it's westie chick hostess serving drinks and nibbles - Chortle chortle I say.

:first:

Draco
3rd November 2007, 15:56
Yes guys, there was good media coverage. A couple of us did interviews for TVNZ and Sunday Herald, so watch tonight.

Big thanks to the NZ Police for keeping us safe and ensuring the ride ran smoothly, makes us look much more favourable in the public eye. Top marks for a well behaved group.

Big thanks go to the many organisers. There have been some sleepless nights and long hours put in over a very short time.

Well done to everyone who turned up, especially those from out of town. Last bike count just before departing was 330 bikes plus pillions, and a few tacked on along the way.

Best news is we have been seen and heard! We have great support from Labour party MP's and I am following up an offer of support from a National MP too. Looks like we'll get the review we want, and then we just need to keep the pressure on to ensure a positive change occurs from it.

WELL DONE EVERYONE!!!

Switch
3rd November 2007, 16:03
That was a pretty good ride/day
I was very impressed with the organisation, top marks to you guys.
Hope ya'll had a good time and signed the petition.
Cheers for the ride :)

Scorpygirl
3rd November 2007, 16:08
Well done everyone. What are great turnout!! Thanks to everyone who organised this protest ride. Hopefully we will get some good action from the Powers that Be in parliament thanks to Crashe. Remember to sign the petition if you haven't already done so.

Say No to Cheesecutters.

Phil W
3rd November 2007, 16:46
Nice, looked like more than 330 to me. Well done to the organizers.

Zapf
3rd November 2007, 16:46
Thanks everyone, it was a GREAT turn out. With only 1 weeks notice.

I believe TV1 was there, and there will be good coverage on the Herald Sunday.

Dodger
3rd November 2007, 17:19
AKL ride was just on TV1 news :)

Scorpygirl
3rd November 2007, 17:22
Good coverage on TV1 News!!! Shows we can protest peacefully and with order unlike the protest group outside the Labour Party Conference. For a bit I thought that ours would be overshadowed. Thank goodness it wasn't and showed us in a positive light. :niceone:

Matt_TG
3rd November 2007, 17:24
The transit guy was convincing wasn't he??!!!

Not his best day lol.


It was an awesome ride to Auckland, great protest ride and had a cruisy ride home. Thanks all involved, will post pics later!

LilSel
3rd November 2007, 17:26
Just saw it on the news too :)... good job peoples ! :)

Im glad it was only cages doin nose to tails just past the south eastern onramp!... was a little concerned at first coming up to that!

yungatart
3rd November 2007, 17:30
Just watched it on the news, most impressed with the behaviour...shows us in a good light.
Well done to all those who turned up.
We need to keep the issue in the public eye...roll on Welly next w/e!

chanceyy
3rd November 2007, 17:33
great job guys .. now for welly ...

since my bike is hundreds of bits at mo ..& it appears gissy trip has gone by the way side.. anyone going to welly have a spare pillion seat from shannon/levin area ??

babyB
3rd November 2007, 17:36
Just watched it on the news, most impressed with the behaviour...shows us in a good light.
Well done to all those who turned up.
We need to keep the issue in the public eye...roll on Welly next w/e!

yep agrees. good on ya ppl

have put up couple photos on other thread

janno
3rd November 2007, 17:36
Well done you guys! You all looked like sane, concerned citizens, not speed freaks, yobs and louts like some media have traditionally liked to portray us.

Well done to TV1 for giving responsible and balanced coverage.

I'm hoping to get down to Wgtn next weekend, hopefully it will be more of the same.

Colapop
3rd November 2007, 17:37
Can anyone post a link to the item please?

LilSel
3rd November 2007, 17:39
Can anyone post a link to the item please?

its not on tvnz yet... I tried recording it onto dvd recorder hard drive... not sure if it worked... will go see if it did n either burn to disc n upload or see if there is a usb port on the recorder thingie... (i dont know how to use it properly lol!!)


EDIT: omg it worked!! just burnt it off dvd thingie... on a disc now... loading it up...

eh... maybe it didnt... im having issues *sigh*

Maha
3rd November 2007, 17:55
Massive day....Mrs Busa Pete and Mom did a fantastic job with the petition sheets at the Puhoi afterwards....6 sheets no less and left extras there for other people to sign tomorrow...thanks to the Puhoi managment for photocopying extra sheets....:Punk: Great News item, crashe made a wonderful job of her speach, cheers to those that made this happen, you guys have worked tirelessly on this protest and it shows....:first:

El Dopa
3rd November 2007, 17:55
That was a doozy of a cage pileup just before Ellerslie, nice of the cops to give us our own lane to pass the accident :)

Must have been their worst nightmare: 300-400 bikes to shepherd through a car pile-up that looked like it might have reached double figures. 2-second rule, anyone?

So good on the cops for their help.

Rhino
3rd November 2007, 17:56
Hi folks,

I have captured the TV1 item and converted it to wmv file for viewing in Windows Media Player. Unfortunately it is 4.6 Mb in size, so is too big to attach here.

If people want a copy, pm me with an email address. If I get sufficient interest I can make it available via ftp.

Cave Cleaner
3rd November 2007, 18:01
Watched it on TV1. Looked like good weather there? Looking forward to the one down here next weekend. It seems like 40 riders so far. but I know there will be more turn up on the day. Anyone coming through Paraparaumu, as can join in from here?

Matt_TG
3rd November 2007, 18:07
Hi folks,

I have captured the TV1 item and converted it to wmv file for viewing in Windows Media Player. Unfortunately it is 4.6 Mb in size, so is too big to attach here.

If people want a copy, pm me with an email address. If I get sufficient interest I can make it available via ftp.

Put it on Rapidshare ? http://rapidshare.com/

Or someone will have web space to upload to - I can't access mine at the moment for some reason or I'd offer.

LilSel
3rd November 2007, 18:08
sorry guys :(... i cant get it to stick on the disc!! :mad: its on the HDD n it said it'd burnt to disc but comp says its a blank dvd-r?!... I've tried putting it on the disc about 4 times now... grrr... i think maybe cuz it recorded in SP?...

LilSel
3rd November 2007, 18:09
Hi folks,

I have captured the TV1 item and converted it to wmv file for viewing in Windows Media Player. Unfortunately it is 4.6 Mb in size, so is too big to attach here.

If people want a copy, pm me with an email address. If I get sufficient interest I can make it available via ftp.

YAY!!! someone who knows how to use their dvd recorder LOL!...

I got it on the HDD but couldnt burn it right?... need lessons lol

danb
3rd November 2007, 18:48
If someone wants to send me a copy of the TV1 News I can put it up on my site. PM me for my email.

danb
3rd November 2007, 19:04
Video is up!

http://www.computecnetworks.com/cheesecutter/

Thanks to Rhino

Swoop
3rd November 2007, 19:55
A big thanks to the organisers and also the :Police: today. Great work guys. Seven cages to get out of the [motor]way in a short space of time...:sweatdrop

Well done to everyone for keeping it orderly!:rockon:

DMNTD
3rd November 2007, 20:02
Bloody amazing out coming for an event organised in such a short time frame. Congratulations to all involved...should be proud. :2thumbsup





I will very tentatively say an SV. But I wouldn't swear to that in court.
Believe it was a Falco mate but could be wrong.

boomer
3rd November 2007, 20:06
yeah gotta agree..A HUGE THANK YOU to all involved.. i had no idea of the time and effort you guys have put into this until i spoke to Jen today.

THANKS guys... You should be proud of what you've achieved!

Brett
3rd November 2007, 20:15
Bloody good turnout. Big thanks to the cops for making it a helluva lot simpler for us logistically! I caught thenews on the DVD recorder so I watched it just now when I got home.
Good to ride with those of you that joineus for what was supposed to be a countryside blat but thanks to the weather turned out to be a bit shorter than expected!
Jono / Aff-man I do expect you to show me how to wheelie the Gixxer at some point!
LMAO - after you guys all let our place, the neighbour came out and started a small war with me, something about "under the tenancy agreement no-one is to park in the driveway (even just on our side)". SHe was very quickly told to pull her head in and go do with herself...well you get the idea. So any loud bikes are welcome to visit our place, preferably in big groups.:Pokey:

WelshWizard
3rd November 2007, 20:20
Video is up!

http://www.computecnetworks.com/cheesecutter/

Thanks to Rhino

Hi DanB
tried link , won't let me have access to site , any special way round this.
Than ks in advance if there is.

WelshWizard
3rd November 2007, 20:23
It was great to see such a turn out for the first protest run, now we have to not let those who need to take it on board that this is not just a one off, or some thing that happens when one of us goes down.

Its our lives the Transport people are playing with with their cheap skating

BarBender
3rd November 2007, 20:23
Huge thankyou to the organisers. Too much. :clap::clap:
Chris - Big ups to you for pulling together a strong contingent from the South. Well done and hope you guys made it safely home.

Mr Wheelie man looked to be on an Aprillia. Old Milly or Falco. Only saw the front.

Mrs Busa Pete
3rd November 2007, 20:34
Massive day....Mrs Busa Pete and Mom did a fantastic job with the petition sheets at the Puhoi afterwards....6 sheets no less and left extras there for other people to sign tomorrow...thanks to the Puhoi managment for photocopying extra sheets....:Punk: Great News item, crashe made a wonderful job of her speach, cheers to those that made this happen, you guys have worked tirelessly on this protest and it shows....:first:


We have just got home but by the time we got to leave Puhoi i had 7 signed pages. We then went to orewa and got another page and a half.
For those that didn't get to sign the petition and are going past puhoi pub there are some there so stop in have a beer and put your signture on it.
Like everyone else has said great turnout well done to the orginzers
:2thumbsup and to everyone turned up you can now have :drinkup:

Maha
3rd November 2007, 20:42
We have just got home but by the time we got to leave Puhoi i had 7 signed pages. We then went to orewa and got another page and a half.
For those that didn't get to sign the petition and are going past puhoi pub there are some there so stop in have a beer and put your signture on it.
Like everyone else has said great turnout well done to the orginzers
:2thumbsup and to everyone turned up you can now have :drinkup:

Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.... Petes Camo' outfit must have played a part for those that signed....:banana:..na seriously....awesome effort....:2thumbsup

Patch
3rd November 2007, 20:52
Sweeeeeeeeeeeeet.... Petes Camo' outfit must have played a part for those that signed....:banana:..na seriously....awesome effort....:2thumbsup

Probably helped him earn his beer money too :spanking:



All he was missing was a sled an three huskies :bleh:

LilSel
3rd November 2007, 21:21
Bloody amazing out coming for an event organised in such a short time frame. Congratulations to all involved...should be proud. :2thumbsup


Twas nice to finally meet you dude!! :D

xwhatsit
3rd November 2007, 21:21
Great ride. I was super, super, SUPER embarassed when we got to the domain and were waiting to turn right across some traffic within the domain; for some reason (over-heating?) I had massive clutch drag and the thing bloody stalled. Just about dropped it trying to bump start it then get out of everybody's way -- thank-you so much to the guy who got off his bike and helped me push it up the hill. I wanted to crawl into a hole! :lol:

News item came across well. Apparently nothing was shown on TV3? I thought they were there too.

Hope this is effective. Thanks guys.

motorbyclist
3rd November 2007, 23:55
did anyone get the number of the silver landcruiser(?) that merged (forced) its way into the bikes to only gain a few car lengths? i shot up behind him with the helmet cam, but my battery went flat mere minutes beforehand!:doh:

sweet! i got on tv :D

WelshWizard
4th November 2007, 07:44
For those of you who Gremlin lead rider, lead the party past the entrance to the Domian and followed, then having to do a ueeeeeeeee to get back on route, thought you might like to know he was awarded the Order of the PIE after everyone else had gone, Felix will I hope post the picture.

WW

The Joka
4th November 2007, 08:04
AWESOME EVENT GUYS!

Definitely the biggest group I have ridden in...

Just an idea - how about riding to Wellington to deliver the petition?

Auckland Anniversary Weekend would be best? 27th Jan
I would even miss the Bon Jovi concert for it.

Could leave to Wellington on Sunday - sleep nite and deliver first thing Monday so that everyone can get back in time for work!

Imagine all the bikes that would show along the way!

Mrs Busa Pete
4th November 2007, 09:35
AWESOME EVENT GUYS!

Definitely the biggest group I have ridden in...

Just an idea - how about riding to Wellington to deliver the petition?

Auckland Anniversary Weekend would be best? 27th Jan
I would even miss the Bon Jovi concert for it.

Could leave to Wellington on Sunday - sleep nite and deliver first thing Monday so that everyone can get back in time for work!

Imagine all the bikes that would show along the way!


I second that idea

UberRhys
4th November 2007, 09:58
AWESOME EVENT GUYS!

Definitely the biggest group I have ridden in...

Just an idea - how about riding to Wellington to deliver the petition?

Auckland Anniversary Weekend would be best? 27th Jan
I would even miss the Bon Jovi concert for it.

Could leave to Wellington on Sunday - sleep nite and deliver first thing Monday so that everyone can get back in time for work!

Imagine all the bikes that would show along the way!

Awesome idea, an en masse ride to Wellington to deliver the petition would generate quite a bit of noise for the cause.

Colapop
4th November 2007, 10:03
It'd be a bloody good way of following up the campaign too.

Nasty
4th November 2007, 10:27
It'd be a bloody good way of following up the campaign too.

Agree ... there has to be a stance when the petition goes into the House ... its a place where legally we can make a point, as was done yetesday, but we can make a true noise as well!

Krayy
4th November 2007, 10:58
Awesome idea, an en masse ride to Wellington to deliver the petition would generate quite a bit of noise for the cause.
Good idea, but trying to keep a ~200 bikes in a group all the way to Wellywood would be a mission and a half. Better idea would be break the ride into "official" sections that go through larger towns starting a few kays out until a few kays past. Then let everyone make their own pace to the next section (at legal speeds of course). Final run into Welly would be along the expressway with police escort.

And stuff Monday, get them to put a special Sunday session on for us.

chanceyy
4th November 2007, 11:01
good idea as you will pick up riders from every town heading south .. say fr paraparaumu congregate as one large group & ride to welly that would be damn well impressive .. since there seems to be a bit of support fr political parties would not be hard to have some of them met .. but when do they come back after the xmas break ?

Mrs Busa Pete
4th November 2007, 11:07
Good idea, but trying to keep a ~200 bikes in a group all the way to Wellywood would be a mission and a half. Better idea would be break the ride into "official" sections that go through larger towns starting a few kays out until a few kays past. Then let everyone make their own pace to the next section (at legal speeds of course). Final run into Welly would be along the expressway with police escort.

And stuff Monday, get them to put a special Sunday session on for us.

They done it for the acc protestride a few years back i'm sure it could be done again.

UberRhys
4th November 2007, 11:16
Good idea, but trying to keep a ~200 bikes in a group all the way to Wellywood would be a mission and a half. Better idea would be break the ride into "official" sections that go through larger towns starting a few kays out until a few kays past. Then let everyone make their own pace to the next section (at legal speeds of course). Final run into Welly would be along the expressway with police escort.


They done it for the acc protestride a few years back i'm sure it could be done again.

I agree it would be quite a task, but it has been done before. The french farmers can do similar protests in tractors and combine harvesters I don't see why we can't do the same on two wheels.
YES it would take some organisation, YES it would take a great commitment and YES it would get the message out. These large scale events are the ones that make international headlines, and then the real pressure would be put on parliament. I'm keen enough.
Just my 2 cents worth...

Pixie
4th November 2007, 11:52
LOL we just laughed our arses off too,

Was that what I rode over?

Pixie
4th November 2007, 11:58
The transit guy was convincing wasn't he??!!!

Not his best day lol.


It was an awesome ride to Auckland, great protest ride and had a cruisy ride home. Thanks all involved, will post pics later!

No offence to stuttering Irish morons,but I don't think he was Transit's best choice of a spokesman.
-or maybe he was.

Ozzie
4th November 2007, 13:18
anyone seen anything in the papers?

If so, which one, I found next to nothing, just a single line in the Herald on Sunday.

Blairos
4th November 2007, 13:24
anyone seen anything in the papers?

If so, which one, I found next to nothing, just a single line in the Herald on Sunday.

This article was in the Herald this morning - not 100% sure, but I think they got Felix's surname spelling incorrect

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/topic/story.cfm?c_id=663&objectid=10473918

and this other article on the same site...

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/466/story.cfm?c_id=466&objectid=10471342

Ozzie
4th November 2007, 13:28
Yeah, the first one is the one I saw in the paper, basically useless

The Joka
4th November 2007, 18:00
If I can help organise anything let me know... 021 520 639!

I like the idea of meeting just outside the major cities!

BUT IMAGINE HOW AWESOME IT WOULD BE FOR LITTERALLY 1000's of bikes to converge on Wellington all together and make a united front!

Start one ride in Invergargill or Christchurch get them to meet us in Wellington and really really really send a message that couldn't be missed?

carver
4th November 2007, 20:33
did anyone get the number of the silver landcruiser(?) that merged (forced) its way into the bikes to only gain a few car lengths? i shot up behind him with the helmet cam, but my battery went flat mere minutes beforehand!:doh:

sweet! i got on tv :D

there was a white camary that was rather abusive to some of the bikers behind us, pushing in, tailgaiting, honking the horn..

Swoop
4th November 2007, 20:38
there was a white camary that was rather abusive to some of the bikers behind us, pushing in, tailgaiting, honking the horn..
It appears that a white Camry is the least of your troubles at present...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=60277
Perhaps you would like to say a few words?

Mrs Busa Pete
5th November 2007, 10:06
could someone please let me know what the cut of date for the petition so that i can get them in on time.

Thanks Wendy

Sanx
6th November 2007, 21:57
It appears that a white Camry is the least of your troubles at present...
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=60277
Perhaps you would like to say a few words?

He's said them. Some people accepted. Some people didn't. Let's not revisit it - it's pointless.

To the idea of a mass ride to Wellington, I think it's a great plan. The proposed date would mean I couldn't attend, but it's make a point.