The PC thing

[Phil W]

OK, That's just about hit the last nerve I have left.
I am so sick of people justifying their actions in this way. I pride myself I'm a tolerant bloke. I can wait half an hour for a coffee, put up with non indicating car drivers, even my boss, but:
So you can't hit your kids. your wife, your husband, your grandparents, your dog.
You can own a shotgun, but not a semi, a pistol or a bloody bazooka.
Taxes are a pain but how else do we pay for the services we expect, hospitals, education, roads.
I hear so many labels, nanny state, communist, Blah, blah, blah.
The point about the poeple who cry PC whenever they don't agree with something is that they attempt to destroy debate.
They assume they are right. In the face of contradicting evidence they assert thier supramacy of thought.
They advance the herd mentality of "common sense" and hold it to be the ultimate truth.. I think for myself and try to be as informed as possible.
The PC cry is one that stifles informed debate.
If you want to hit your kids, buy a semi automatic, whatever, fine. But put up an argument, not just rhetoric,:2guns:or shut the fuck up.

[James Deuce]

No, you shut the fuck up.

[Skyryder]

OK, That's just about hit the last nerve I have left.
I am so sick of people justifying their actions in this way. I pride myself I'm a tolerant bloke. I can wait half an hour for a coffee, put up with non indicating car drivers, even my boss, but:
So you can't hit your kids. your wife, your husband, your grandparents, your dog.
You can own a shotgun, but not a semi, a pistol or a bloody bazooka.
Taxes are a pain but how else do we pay for the services we expect, hospitals, education, roads.
I hear so many labels, nanny state, communist, Blah, blah, blah.
The point about the poeple who cry PC whenever they don't agree with something is that they attempt to destroy debate.
They assume they are right. In the face of contradicting evidence they assert thier supramacy of thought.
They advance the herd mentality of "common sense" and hold it to be the ultimate truth.. I think for myself and try to be as informed as possible.
The PC cry is one that stifles informed debate.
If you want to hit your kids, buy a semi automatic, whatever, fine. But put up an argument, not just rhetoric,:2guns:or shut the fuck up.

What happened last night..................get sent to the dog house??:jerry::jerry:

Skyyrder

[Hitcher]

OK, That's just about hit the last nerve I have left.

I don't get it. Are you for or against? That may be a useful starting point. At this time of night I'm happy to take a contrary view against anything you put forward.

Arguing is, afterall, vastly more sophisticated than merely having the last word.

[Joni]

God, Im confused and have no clue whats going on again :cry:

[Skyryder]

I don't get it. Are you for or against? That may be a useful starting point. At this time of night I'm happy to take a contrary view against anything you put forward.

Arguing is, afterall, vastly more sophisticated than merely having the last word.


Not according to old Chinese proverb. Itchy provoke agument. Hand scratch itchy. Hand wins.


Skyryder

[Hitcher]

Itchy provoke argument. Hand scratch itchy. Hand wins.

What about the paper and the stone?

[Phil W]

Tonight, tonight., angry, angry. Thank dog for this forum. Otherwise I have no idea what I would do.
But seriously, I'm so pissed off with the lack of debate. We can all take a contrary view but to simply label any opposing view as PC drains my nuts.
As bikers we have enough prejudicial and stigmatizing views directed against us, why would we want to promote more?:calm:: 2guns:

[Skyryder]

What about the paper and the stone?

Don't know that one? This thread has improved already in content:love:

Skyrder

[Hitcher]

why would we want to promote more?

Because we're hard arses who fear nothing except our mums?

[Skyryder]

Tonight, tonight., angry, angry. Thank dog for this forum. Otherwise I have no idea what I would do.
But seriously, I'm so pissed off with the lack of debate. We can all take a contrary view but to simply label any opposing view as PC drains my nuts.
As bikers we have enough prejudicial and stigmatizing views directed against us, why would we want to promote more?:calm:: 2guns:

Just think of PC as phucking cock and enjoy.:stupid:

Skyryder

[Street Gerbil]

Ok, so what's the problem with your PC again? First of all, take it apart, clean all the connectors with alcohol and put it back together.
(Just kidding)

[MSTRS]

Well, this is a strange one *sidles quietly out and eases the door closed*

[riffer]

Okay, so I vote this one the troll of the month...

[Phil W]

Cheers Street Gerbil.
Just laughed out loud for the first time today. No problem with my PC and am at this moment cleaning it with alcohol.
What are the other Wizard Rules?

[Street Gerbil]

Welcome to the club, Phil!

What are the other Wizard Rules?
I can tell but that would ruin 10 excellent books for you.
Try reading Goodkind's "Wizard's First Rule" and see if you like it. If it's not to your taste, let me know and I'll just post the rest of them.

[Phil W]

Cheers will try them out,
blood pressure going down,
head ache decreasing,
vision becoming clear

[Phil W]

Cheers will try them out,
blood pressure going down,
head ache decreasing,
vision becoming clear,
need to rip out the jugular of right wing pricks......undiminished.

[yod]

yeah rock on the liberal lefties

bling awarded

[Cibby]

I am very anti - PC, it drives me crazy,

I'm currently in the UK where the whole PC thing has gone WAY overboard,

Some examples

1. It is considered sexual discrimination if you advertise a full time job position and then dont give it to a female who can only work part time because she has a child. Further on for this, you are unable to discriminate on age, race, religion, situation to the point that most job agencies use lawyers to word their job advertisements.

2. A christian worker in a post office was suspended for three days because a muslim worker complained that the christian worker had a photo of Jesus on his desk and it offended said muslim worker.

3. Muslim doctors are refusing to treat patients with STD's or sexual problems including pregnancy outside of marriage as it is against their religious beliefs.

4. Muslim ASDA workers are refusing to sell alcohol and ciggies to customers as it is against their religious.

5. A uniformed soldier was refused service at a BP petrol station by an Indian worker as the indian worker disagreed wtih the war.

6. A foster child in the care of 2 gay guys was sexually and physically abused by his foster fathers, the child authority services were aware of this and failed to report it as they were to afraid of being accused of sexual discrimiation.

I'm stunned at the level of over-tollerance and power of the majorities in the UK and there are some bits of NZ law that has been brought in that mirrors the beginning of where this came from.

It sucks, if someone is insulted by something i say or do then fuck off.

Rant over :)

[Phil W]

What absolute bloody nonsense the above is.
Give us the specifics.
Where did you get this homo phobic racist crap that you call facts from? The Telegraph ? The Times? The Daily Mail? The BNP? NF, Column 88?
Who are you trying to kid?
I believe you have just proved my point,
Thank you who ever you are.

[Phil W]

Blood pressure increasing
Head ache maximum
Vision blurred
Need to rip out jugular of right wing prick overwhelming.
:2guns:

[98tls]

Blood pressure increasing
Head ache maximum
Vision blurred
Need to rip out jugular of right wing prick overwhelming.
:2guns: Why not just ignore it,its not going to change,only get worse in fact.Ranting about it will change nothing...

[Phil W]

A wise man once said,
"All it takes for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing".
Now I'm not saying I'm a good man, or that who ever said this was not a wide man rather than a wise man but some things, such as any car with a modified exhaust, should not pass.
They should be challenged or they get away with the crap they espouse as fact.
:2guns:

[slowpoke]

This reminds me of that old axiom about the world changing according to irrational people alone. It goes something like:

A rational person will not seek to change the world and will instead adapt to the world around them. An irrational man is unable to adapt and the world will adapt to them. Therefore world development is largely due to or perpetuated by irrational people.

Looking around, you can't help but agree.....

[98tls]

A wise man once said,
"All it takes for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing".
Now I'm not saying I'm a good man, or that who ever said this was not a wide man rather than a wise man but some things, such as any car with a modified exhaust, should not pass.
They should be challenged or they get away with the crap they espouse as fact.
:2guns: Agreed.........but the reality is when having a moment such as your having generally i go find a quiet road filled with endless bends,at the end of it i find the worlds madness a distant second to the joy my bikes just given me...generally i get off it,turn it off and just for a bit the worlds pretty fucken good.:niceone:

[Phil W]

In a philosophical mood,
Seems to imply adaption over evolution. Fairly suspect notion I would argue.
Would suggest a CX 500 (reliable, unbreakable, steady) would, via evolution, triumph over the R1.

[98tls]

In a philosophical mood,
Seems to imply adaption over evolution. Fairly suspect notion I would argue.
Would suggest a CX 500 (reliable, unbreakable, steady) would, via evolution, triumph over the R1. Maybe so........look at ancient Rome and what happened when it fell.

[Phil W]

:mobile:
A thousand years of barbaric stability compared to a CX? I'm loving it
we really are out there on the edge now.

[98tls]

:mobile:
A thousand years of barbaric stability compared to a CX? I'm loving it
we really are out there on the edge now. For no other reason than ive consumed to much bourbon your post made me think of........:shit:cant remember correctly,what was the term for English lords having first stroke of Scot newlyweds?

[Phil W]

Takes off righteous armor, puts on old WestPac Helicopter Run T shirt and goes to bed.
Blood pressure low
Headache gone
Will dream about ripping out the jugular of right wing pricks.

[Phil W]

Nobless Obligie
Spelling must be wrong, but I think thats what your after.

[98tls]

I can only imagine what it must be like to wake up feeling ill and then open the garage door to be confronted with such a beast:crybaby:mind you what you vote for can be as random as what you chose to ride i guess.Such is life in a free state.........if you chose it to be.

[Phil W]

???
Eh?
Intrigued if somewhat knackered. Are you having a pop at my bike or my politics?

[pritch]

Tonight, tonight., angry, angry. Thank dog for this forum.



Is it possible we have found the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?
He awakes and paces the floor wrestling with the question,
"Is there a Dog?"

[Street Gerbil]

Will dream about ripping out the jugular of right wing pricks.
I feel for you, brother. I hate left wing pricks myself.

[98tls]

???
Eh?
Intrigued if somewhat knackered. Are you having a pop at my bike or my politics? Neither mate...........to old to bother havin a crack at someones bike....and once again to old to bother with politics,everytime i see Winston P on televison it reminds me of how fucked up our once great land has become and i turn it off.Just thought it sounded ok and would deprive you of a few minutes more sleep.

[98tls]

Is it possible we have found the dyslexic agnostic insomniac?
He awakes and paces the floor wrestling with the question,
"Is there a Dog?" :niceone:i like it......bling sent,theres 3 of us getting shitted after a great day out on the bikes and we got a chuckle...:niceone:

[Phil W]

Good on yer.
Slapped by a gerbil, must be time for bed. Enjoyed this session, a few beers helped.
Hope its all good in the morning for all here.

[sAsLEX]

5. A uniformed soldier was refused service at a BP petrol station by an Indian worker as the indian worker disagreed wtih the war.


pfff that's easy just drive off without paying!

[Skyryder]

Okay, so I vote this one the troll of the month...

Like turned to stone??:devil2:

Skyryder

[Skyryder]

Takes off righteous armor, puts on old WestPac Helicopter Run T shirt and goes to bed.
Blood pressure low
Headache gone
Will dream about ripping out the jugular of right wing pricks.

Now ya talkin' my language.:rolleyes:

Skyryder

[The Pastor]

PC crap is so annoying, its just a phase, like climate change. But I think it will take years for it to go away. maybe even 20+

[carver]

vote libertarianz (http://libertarianz.org.nz/) n00b

[Phil W]

The KKK can't have me, something to do with me having the right amount of chromosomes and being able to walk and chew gum at the same time. Oh, and not having a name like Cletas or being married to my sister.
Liberterianz? What you and Rodney Hide? I should coco.:laugh:

[scorpious]

:Oi: can someone please tell me weather phill's for PC or against it?

[Drew]

He's against people using it as an attempt at the final word. The way it is used as an all encompasing tool that defines all current action.

I read what he's written to have no comment one way or the other on political correctness.

[scorpious]

He's against people using it as an attempt at the final word. The way it is used as an all encompasing tool that defines all current action.

I read what he's written to have no comment one way or the other on political correctness.

In that case I support him,
PC is a load of bull. people should be able to say what they want and those of us listening can just harden up.

[merv]

Whatever Phil was trying to say about this or racism it won't worry me if he never says anything else here because he was sounding kind of bitter and for what reason?

Perhaps he doesn't ride enough. I've been working on the cars and I've just ducked in for a coffee now must go get the bike out, the wind is dying down so its looking nice for a quick ride.

[James Deuce]

I still reckon he should have shut the fuck up.

[Dave-]

we had an an old fella come into my store the other day, wanders up to my manager who greets him with "g'day mate, how's your day going?" in the warmest most sincere tone you can imagine.

the fella looks down at him and saying sternly "at my age I do not expect to be called 'mate', I'm now leaving your store" turns around and walks away.

my manager looks as though he's been slapped for a bit...then a grin cracks on his face and we all have an excellent laugh about it.

was this fella expecting "welcome to [store here] sir, ah, how may I be of service to your needs today?....ah oh yes a wonderful choice sir...yes yes of course sir.....why sir, yes sir....well good day to you sir, may you enjoy your [product] sir"

DIE IN A FIRE SIR!

[James Deuce]

Geez Dave a little respect goes a long way. How about you post the name of your store so I can avoid it as well?

[Laava]

we had an an old fella come into my store the other day, wanders up to my manager who greets him with "g'day mate, how's your day going?" in the warmest most sincere tone you can imagine.

the fella looks down at him and saying sternly "at my age I do not expect to be called 'mate', I'm now leaving your store" turns around and walks away.

my manager looks as though he's been slapped for a bit...then a grin cracks on his face and we all have an excellent laugh about it.

was this fella expecting "welcome to [store here] sir, ah, how may I be of service to your needs today?....ah oh yes a wonderful choice sir...yes yes of course sir.....why sir, yes sir....well good day to you sir, may you enjoy your [product] sir"


DIE IN A FIRE SIR!
"Oooooh! Suits you sir, oooooh!" The Fast Show

[Mikkel]

"Oooooh! Suits you sir, oooooh!" The Fast Show

He already got his coat...

[Toaster]

I still reckon he should have shut the fuck up.

Agreed. Comes in here with a couple dozen posts and starts calling people pricks just because he is a softcock lefty and wants all the toys on his side of the sandpit. If he doesn't like it he can piss off and join the Labour party or go hug and tree.

[merv]

Just got back from a wee cruise to Paekak - the Hill road was rather busy because Works Infrastructure had Grays Road closed so all the cars in the world were being diverted up the hill. Great :argh:

Only saw a couple other bikes as I was heading North and then when I came back South only passed one cruiser and it was heading the same way as me.

Phil back yet? No - OK no worries, did he do what Jim told him to do?

[James Deuce]

Phil back yet? No - OK no worries, did he do what Jim told him to do?A child of five would understand that. Send someone to fetch a child of five.

[Skyryder]

If he doesn't like it he can piss off and join the Labour party or go hug and tree.

Phuck no. We don't want him.


Skyyrder

[Dafe]

This is starting to sound way too PC.....

[Wellyman]

I still reckon he should have shut the fuck up.
Thank you Jim, I agree. Take ya asshole attitude and personal problems somewhere else.
WM