Thinking of buying a MV Agusta F4 1000S

[kiwifruit]

I binned the TEN, what can i buy to live up to it?
I've also been talking to jrandom.
Enter, heh, the MV Agusta F4 1000S

[doc]

I binned the TEN, what can i buy to live up to it?
I've also been talking to jrandom.
Enter, heh, the MV Agusta F4 1000S
Why not the R

[Trudes]

:drool:..... Yum!!

[0arbreaka]

Your earning too much, give me some.

[Mr Skid]

I've also been talking to jrandom.As long as you haven't been listening to his twaddle, you'll be ok.

[NotaGoth]

CBR600, I know you want it :shifty:

[doc]

Your earning too much, give me some.
If that is the case check out the CC

[pritch]

I binned the TEN, what can i buy to live up to it?
I've also been talking to jrandom.
Enter, heh, the MV Agusta F4 1000S

Italian electrics, uncomfortable, completely impractical of course,
but oh so beautiful... :drool:

[Sensei]

I binned the TEN, what can i buy to live up to it?
Enter, heh, the MV Agusta F4 1000S

Why you binned your Ten is something you should look at first ?

[DUCATI*HARD]

I binned the TEN, what can i buy to live up to it?
I've also been talking to jrandom.
Enter, heh, the MV Agusta F4 1000S

hope your ok:niceone:any footage:devil2:

[Hitcher]

I understand that those MVs have got really strong tanks.

[Fatjim]

But shit radiators.

PM MD.

[Clivoris]

A 1098s might be better value:dodge: Glad you haven't bent yourself anymore than the original tolerances.

[emaN]

could you handle a(nother) fast italian?

what does your b/f think you should get?

[Mr Skid]

what does your b/f think you should get?Dude, he said in the first post.

[jrandom]

I've always been an arse man.

:love:

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[jrandom]

Why not the R

Price.

:cool:

[Pancakes]

Best sounding bike in the world. Do it.

[slowpoke]

DO IT!!

Mate, it's sex on wheels and has the performance to back up the looks. If you can afford it why the hell wouldn't you?

Let me put it this way: you can either be Byron Kelleher and marry a pornstar or you can be Joe Schmo renting durrty DVD's. Live the dream man.

[Toaster]

It is a nice looking bike.

Are you wanting us to convince you or have you crossed that line already?

Your call depending on your budget. It is quite a yummy looking beast that is for sure. Nice attention to detail when you really get up close.

[emaN]

Dude, he said in the first post.
i only knew of one b/f...bit of a man-whore is he?




:love:

[limbimtimwim]

DO IT.

But what ever happened to turbos?

[Coyote]

I binned the TEN
Cor, how?

Is the frame, engine and forks sweet?

Get the MV if you have the money, then buy a GN to ride cause you won't let the MV leave the gargre I bet

[kiwifruit]

I'm still keen..

Coyote, don't worry man, i will ride it! :yes:

limbimtimwim, i was going to supercharge the TEN but was (thankfully) talked out of it by my mechanic :yes:

Toaster, i haven't crossed the line.... convince me!! :devil2:

emaN, i'm the boss

Sensei, the TEN was binned whilst finding its / my limits on turn 3 at taupo on friday.... safest way to do the ton on one's bum



Has anyone riden one?
Go ok? High five?
Reliable?

[Coyote]

Coyote, don't worry man, i will ride it! :yes:

Bags it if you make way for the MV

Can't afford it but will find a way. Banks like giving loans to just turned 18 people

[Finn]

Get it fruitcake, it's a great bike. The fueling (snappy throttle) will take some getting used to but once you do, you'll never look back. It will make all the jap litre bikes feel like cruisers and look like fat ugly chicks in mini skirts.

[NZsarge]

It is a nice looking bike.

Are you wanting us to convince you or have you crossed that line already?

Your call depending on your budget. It is quite a yummy looking beast that is for sure. Nice attention to detail when you really get up close.

Yeah I think in Kiwifruits mind it already in the garage! I've seen them in the flesh and i've seen them being thrashed and yeah it a nice bike alright but it really depends on where your heads at, I dont see how they are 14 or 15 grand better than the ZX10, R1, GRX-R and so on. Yes I hav'nt ridden one but at this point if I won lotto I would'nt bother but if they are your passion then by all means, thats what choices are for.
I'd like a R1, ZX14, SuperDuke R and a '08 V-Max in my garage.....damn....i'm off to buy me some more tickets....


Enjoy the MV if you get one Kiwifruit, i'm sure you will.

[Grantasaurus]

Get it fruitcake, it's a great bike. The fueling (snappy throttle) will take some getting used to but once you do, you'll never look back. It will make all the jap litre bikes feel like cruisers and look like fat ugly chicks in mini skirts.

hehe so true, all the Jap litre bikes are becoming fugly. The new exhausts on the Gixxer thou look like a bad pair of thunder-thighs...

[Finn]

The new exhausts on the Gixxer thou look like a bad pair of thunder-thighs...

So they do customise bikes for the NZ market...

[speed63]

KF
Does the S have traction control LOL The 08 Zx10 does ;)

[jrandom]

traction control...

I rather suspect that that might turn the fruity one against the '08 Ten.

[DMNTD]

Dude...you'll love them,serious! However unless you're buying a Senna or 312 you may find it lacking in power compared to your "old" '10.
Astounding handling..absolutely divine IMO....I found the F4/Senna and Brutale were superb on the Taupo track :scooter:

BTW...ya know I now sell them eh :innocent:

[speed63]

I rather suspect that that might turn the fruity one against the '08 Ten.

Was tongue in cheek...... KF spun up the rear on turn 3:msn-wink:

[jrandom]

Astounding handling..absolutely divine IMO...

Yes, the fruity fulla had the temerity to ask his friendly local MV Agusta fanboy what suspension upgrades were considered obligatory for F4s.

It took him a while to grasp what the silence and raised eyebrows in response meant.

I don't think he's used to perfection coming from factories.

He shall be edumacated.

:yes:

[speed63]

Yes, the fruity fulla had the temerity to ask his friendly local MV Agusta fanboy what suspension upgrades were considered obligatory for F4s.

It took him a while to grasp what the silence and raised eyebrows in response meant.

I don't think he's used to perfection coming from factories.

He shall be edumacated.

:yes:

Hehe you could put a Senna Sachs in there with high and low speed comp and Rebound adjuster. mmmmm

[kiwifruit]

high five!!!!

[jrandom]

SEXYTIME!

:banana:

[limbimtimwim]

Too many lollies eh?

[BMW]

what is better a 1098s or the MV?

[jade]

1098 all the way, have you seen one in the flesh ?

[jrandom]

1098 all the way, have you seen one in the flesh ?

In my humble opinion, F4s are way sexier in the flesh than 1098s.

And much more interesting. Every man and his dog has a 1098 now.

[DMNTD]

1098 all the way, have you seen one in the flesh ?

Yes...have you ridden either of them?

[doc]

Price.

:cool:
I don't know when your spending that sort of coin, 4 grand xtra is not much. Yes the MV does have a nice arse end.

[imdying]

Yeesh, I can nearly see what your MV had for breakfast!

[WRT]

The only thing that should be holding you back from getting the MV is the thought of crashing it.

[skelstar]

There was an MV at the 1/4 mile sprints the other weekend but its not the bike there that I think about the most. Underwelmed in the asthetics sense.

ps - sorry to hear about ya bin.

[breakaway]

The only thing that should be holding you back from getting the MV is the thought of crashing it.

That's what insurance is for :third:

[kiwifruit]

I've made my mind up, MV it is, unless its orrible when i test ride it
Watch this space = )

[limbimtimwim]

May you get lots of sex.

[Trudes]

May you get lots of sex.

:shutup: No I won't say it.... god I've got good at biting my tongue (or is that sitting on my hands?):innocent:

[R6_kid]

May you get lots of sex.

he has my number... and will soon be owning yet another sexy bike on my behalf :Pokey:

[Matt Bleck]

stick with the Jap Crap bro!!!!

[discotex]

I've made my mind up, MV it is, unless its orrible when i test ride it
Watch this space = )

Watching with interest. They're a hot looking and sounding bike.

Have always been interested to see what people say the handling is like especially as they cost so blimmin much!

[MVnut]

Watching with interest. They're a hot looking and sounding bike.

Have always been interested to see what people say the handling is like especially as they cost so blimmin much!

bEST HANDLING BIKE ON THE PLANET !!:niceone:

[Tonka]

Sorry to hear about the bin Kiwifruit, hope the body is recovering well.

Cheers mate
T

[kiwifruit]

Sorry to hear about the bin Kiwifruit, hope the body is recovering well.

Cheers mate
T

Cheers man,

I sustained no injuries at all, had a slightly warm bum for about as long as it took for the leathers to cool down
Stoked!

[SPman]

Sensei, the TEN was binned whilst finding its / my limits on turn 3 at taupo on friday.... safest way to do the ton on one's bum


So, you were exceeding 100kph!!!!

[Sensei]

bEST HANDLING BIKE ON THE PLANET !!:niceone:



Not the best sorry !

[BarBender]

I've made my mind up, MV it is, unless its orrible when i test ride it
Watch this space = )

Sexy time!!

[jrandom]

So, you were exceeding 100kph!!!!

He removes the 62mph limiter for the track, of course.

[MVnut]

Not the best sorry !

I'll rephrase that shall I "Best handling standard production bike on the planet, definitely" If you're referring to Aprilias they are incredible handlers, but not in the same league as MVs sorry. ps I ride both by the way, and some other Italians too.:niceone: and with the MVs the 750 Senna is the best of the best:devil2:

[boomer]

OH YEAH BABY


SEXY TIMES!

[kiwifruit]

So, you were exceeding 100kph!!!!

the metric ton bro

[boomer]

the metric ton bro


tonne, you uneducated mungrel you !

[Goblin]

I'll rephrase that shall I "Best handling standard production bike on the planet, definitely" If you're referring to Aprilias they are incredible handlers, but not in the same league as MVs sorry. ps I ride both by the way, and some other Italians too.:niceone: and with the MVs the 750 Senna is the best of the best:devil2:I have to agree! Since riding a Senna around Taupo Full Track, I still reckon it was head and shoulders above anything else I've ever ridden. and there's been a few




High Five!
:sunny:

[Sensei]

If you're referring to Aprilias they are incredible handlers, but not in the same league as MVs sorry.

I have only ridden a MV-750 when I was looking at buying my next bike & it wasn't that great to be honest so went & brought my 03 RSVR which had way more Quality kit on it for less money go figure . Guess we all have different opinions about what is a so called good handling bike . May check out a MV 312 next time I feel like a change again :niceone:

[MVnut]

If you're referring to Aprilias they are incredible handlers, but not in the same league as MVs sorry.

I have only ridden a MV-750 when I was looking at buying my next bike & it wasn't that great to be honest so went & brought my 03 RSVR which had way more Quality kit on it for less money go figure . Guess we all have different opinions about what is a so called good handling bike . May check out a MV 312 next time I feel like a change again :niceone:

Having different opinions is what being an individual is all about. It's all good. Have to agree the Aprilia has great kit for less money, in particular the Tuono is a big favourite of mine. If you do ride a 312 I know you'll love it, but it's always good to be able to have time to set the suspension for your personal tastes, so hope you have a good long fang on some good twisties and have a bit of a fiddle with the settings.:apint:

[Pancakes]

Not the best sorry !

Want to let us stupid gaijin what you think the best handling bike in the world is?

[boomer]

Want to let us stupid gaijin what you think the best handling bike in the world is?

your not the sharpest tool in the box are you..? Starts with an A and ends with an A...

:bash:

i just remembered why you're on my ignore list

[BMW]

tell me how it goes. Was thinking of getting a black 1098S next year

[surfchick]

make sure you do an uber test ride - see if you reckon the gap for your wrist / arm is big enough between the "wing" at the top of the petrol tank and the handle bar grips and is comfy for you. the ducatis leave enough space between tank and handlebar grips for their "open turning circles" but boy-oh-boy its a small gap on the mv's. the worst of it would only be slow speed turns prob. and slow speed turns won't really be on the menu ;) mv's ... oh what a savage tool :crybaby:

[MVnut]

U turns on MVs are not much fun Surfchick, but hairpins are nice and challenging (the really really tight alpine ones )pity were on different islands or we could swap-a-ride one day.:whistle:

[imdying]

I have only ridden a MV-750 when I was looking at buying my next bike & it wasn't that great to be honest so went & brought my 03 RSVR which had way more Quality kit on it for less money go figure . Guess we all have different opinions about what is a so called good handling bike . May check out a MV 312 next time I feel like a change again :niceone:Thing about you is that you're an interesting character... whatever bike (in fact, not just restricted to bikes) you have at the time is the bestest/awesomest/whatever. You're a very loyal purchaser :yes:

[Dazza]

Thing about you is that you're an interesting character... whatever bike (in fact, not just restricted to bikes) you have at the time is the bestest/awesomest/whatever. You're a very loyal purchaser :yes: You reckon !!!:lol::Pokey:

[Sensei]

Thing about you is that you're an interesting character... whatever bike (in fact, not just restricted to bikes) you have at the time is the bestest/awesomest/whatever. You're a very loyal purchaser :yes:

This is true Imdying , I don't see the point of buy a Shit bike to replace a Excellent one then try to say it is good as alot do on here . :clap:

[imdying]

This is true Imdying , I don't see the point of buy a Shit bike to replace a Excellent one then try to say it is good as alot do on here . :clap:Is the shit one the MV and the excellent one the ZX10? :Pokey:

[FkNAmerican]

Kiwifruit,

There is only one sensible thing to do after you bin your Ten. Get another one!!!

May I recommend the NEW 2008 Zx10R (in black). Its suppossed to be alot like the 2005 ZX10R which, if you know your Kwaka's, means its got knife edge handling and one of the most insane motors on the planet with a top end that will scare the shit out of you every time.

The 2008 ZX10R is gonna be LOADS better to ride then an MV Agusta F4, not to mention cheaper to buy and cheaper to run. Dont forget its also gonna have MotoGP style traction control which wont really matter on the street but should do very well on the track. Here is a blurb on the new bike:

For the 2008 NINJA® ZX™-10R, Kawasaki engineers aimed for an ideal superbike with engine and chassis performance capable of satisfying professional racers, combined with top-notch streetbike qualities for mainstream riders. It’s a delicate balance, but these aren’t your average engineers. They’ve been directly involved in the development of every 600 and 1000cc supersport machine since the 2003 Ninja ZX-6R, plus Kawasaki’s factory Superbike racing efforts, so they have the know-how to deliver the goods.

The result is an exceptionally communicative machine that provides the clean two-way rider/machine dialog demanded by professional racers. Placing the ZX-10R in the racing crucible and applying lessons from that unforgiving environment resulted in an ideal balance to satisfy the most demanding of riders. Japanese Superbike racer Akira Yanagawa was the man pushing the engine and frame components to the limits of their performance in actual competition. Parts that met with Yanagawa’s approval were then tried on the production test bike, tweaked, retested on the racer and adjusted again. This process was repeated throughout the development cycle for the all-new 2008 Ninja ZX-10R.

At the heart of this capable package is a new engine tuned for even greater high-rpm performance, without sacrificing the stellar mid-range performance of its predecessor. Refinements include installing secondary fuel injectors, changing to oval throttle bodies and reshaping the intake ports. Intake flow was further enhanced with reshaped ram air ducts and a larger airbox that feeds into the new oval shaped velocity stacks. Exhaust efficiency was boosted with a new system that not only flows better but generates less noise and emissions. And to suit the enhanced power delivery, the transmission features new gear ratios for 1st, 4th and 5th gears along with an extra tooth on the rear sprocket. These changes make it essentially a race-ready engine with performance similar to Kawasaki’s factory Superbikes.

Professional riders know it’s useless to have the most power if you can’t get it to the ground. The 2008 Ninja ZX-10R features a new ignition system that assists with torque management by monitoring throttle opening, gear position and rate of RPM change, then retarding ignition timing to reduce torque when sudden unwanted RPM spikes are detected. This system doesn’t interfere with normal operation and still allows the engine to rev freely under typical riding conditions.

A superb engine deserves a superb chassis, and this is where the new ZX-10R really shines. To achieve the best-possible handling, Kawasaki used the lessons learned at the track to build a list of refinements including: changing the length of the steering tube and moving it 10mm forward, alleviating stress concentrations through subtle changes to the frame stampings (switching concave parts to convex pieces), increasing the wall thickness around the relocated swingarm pivot, adding ribbing on the interior of the pivot plate, and mounting a narrower, two-piece sub-frame to the main frame’s upper cross member.

With a fully-adjustable 43mm inverted fork and a new swingarm that uses pressed instead of cast beams, the ZX-10R’s track orientated suspension endows the chassis with better feedback. Refinements include adding a Diamond Like Carbon (DLC) coating to the fork tubes for less stiction and enhanced feedback, relocating the springs to the bottom of the fork for reduced oil frothing, and new settings that are better-suited for racetrack use. Rear suspension changes include dual (low and high-speed) compression damping on the fully-adjustable rear shock for better fine-tuning, a new mounting spot for the Uni-Trak® linkage and a re-shaped swingarm with a top-mounted brace.

No part was left untouched on the ZX-10R, even the wheels are new. Produced using a squeeze-casting process instead of the earlier gravity casting method, the new wheels are lighter, stiffer and more precise, to perfectly match the new chassis. The lower unsprung weight of the wheels helps improve suspension action and their reduced rotational inertia provides quicker steering and acceleration.

Braking duties are handled by radial mounted Tokico brake calipers squeezing new 310mm petal discs which are 10mm larger for 2008, and feature reduced thickness from 6 to 5.5mm for better heat dispersion. The rear is a 220mm petal disc squeezed by a single-piston caliper.

The designers didn’t rest when it came to styling either. Given great freedom with the 2008 ZX-10R, their efforts are illustrated in the clean design with superb fit and finish. While shaping the rear frame, tank and seat to offer improved ergonomics and increase the rider’s contact with the bike, they also refined its aerodynamics from a new front cowling to the sharp, minimalist tail cowl.

The result of these efforts is a slim and compact package with the presence befitting its Ninja name.

[kiwifruit]

Kiwifruit,

There is only one sensible thing to do after you bin your Ten. Get another one!!!

May I recommend the NEW 2008 Zx10R (in black). Its suppossed to be alot like the 2005 ZX10R which, if you know your Kwaka's, means its got knife edge handling and one of the most insane motors on the planet with a top end that will scare the shit out of you every time.


If i could get one i probably would :yes:

[jrandom]

There is only one sensible thing to do after you bin your Ten. Get another one!!!

[snip marketing bullshit]

You could have just linked to that, you know.

Also, bear in mind that the '08 10R will not be available here until March next year.

And did you ever consider that some might find it just a little boring riding the same model of bike from the same manufacturer for years on end?

There's so much more to motorcycling than Jap literbikes.

[jrandom]

If i could get one i probably would :yes:

Don't worry, you'll have the MV in a ditch by April ;)

[kiwifruit]

Don't worry, you'll have the MV in a ditch by April ;)

OH MY!!
care to wager mr smartie pants?

[jrandom]

care to wager mr smartie pants?

Hell no. It was a joke. The MV will handle at least as well as your ten did with the Ohlins. It ain't going into no ditches.

[Matt Bleck]

Hell no. It was a joke. The MV will handle at least as well as your ten did with the Ohlins. It ain't going into no ditches.
Sure it will!

[Finn]

MV's don't crash! They just depart the road when not ridden properly.

[Dazza]

MV's don't crash! They just depart the road when not ridden properly.Amen to that, was out riding with the Ducati ownersclub the other weekend & there was a dude there on a Senna, sweet wheels :niceone:

[pritch]

Thing about you is that you're an interesting character... whatever bike (in fact, not just restricted to bikes) you have at the time is the bestest/awesomest/whatever. You're a very loyal purchaser :yes:

LOL You noticed :whistle: Sorry, gotta share the love...

[Dazza]

LOL You noticed :whistle: Sorry, gotta share the love...Some have, cannot wait to see what Sensei's next bike is :whistle::clap:

[Swoop]

The 2008 ZX10R is gonna be LOADS better to ride then an MV Agusta F4, not to mention cheaper to buy and cheaper to run.
Who would care about being "cheap to run"? If you can afford an MV, one would like to hope you can earn enough to put fuel in the tank.

[Goblin]

The 2008 ZX10R is gonna be LOADS better to ride then an MV Agusta F4, Have you ever ridden an MV?

And it's than, not then.:spanking:

[Finn]

Amen to that, was out riding with the Ducati ownersclub the other weekend & there was a dude there on a Senna, sweet wheels :niceone:

Wasn't an older, shorter guy with MV leathers was it?

[jrandom]

Have you ever ridden an MV?

Yes, isn't it odd that the people in favour of MV ownership are the people who've actually ridden them...

It's a little too easy for wet-behind-the-ears rice rocket riders to look at spec sheets and price tags and go "pfft".

[Dazza]

Wasn't an older, shorter guy with MV leathers was it?Don't remember the leathers but was an older shorte guy, apparently MV have given 2 220hp MV's to race here this summer, mate talked to him, interesting dude. Apparently he was in Italy @ a MV function & got a wee bit tipsy & said MV's are shit & was over heard my head sherang, who took out on one the next day & offered him a Senna half price if he'd set a MV race team, nice :headbang:

[Goblin]

Yes, isn't it odd that the people in favour of MV ownership are the people who've actually ridden them...

It's a little too easy for wet-behind-the-ears rice rocket riders to look at spec sheets and price tags and go "pfft".Indeed! Still puts me in my happy place thinking about the day I got to try the Brutale and the Senna out for myself. :love: They really are in a league of their own.

[Dazza]

Yes, isn't it odd that the people in favour of MV ownership are the people who've actually ridden them...

It's a little too easy for wet-behind-the-ears rice rocket riders to look at spec sheets and price tags and go "pfft". Ouch, nice !:dodge:

[NZsarge]

Can I put my hand up and sat are'nt KTM supossed to be bringing out a superbike next year? that might be worth a look too.....but then so is the Duke R:drool::eek::D

[Dazza]

Can I put my hand up and sat are'nt KTM supossed to be bringing out a superbike next year? that might be worth a look too.....but then so is the Duke R:drool::eek::DYep got my name on one & is supposed to be here April 2008 !;)

[Finn]

Yes, isn't it odd that the people in favour of MV ownership are the people who've actually ridden them...

It's a little too easy for wet-behind-the-ears rice rocket riders to look at spec sheets and price tags and go "pfft".

How true. You've just earned yourself a ride on a Brutale R.

[jrandom]

How true. You've just earned yourself a ride on a Brutale R.

:eek:

I shall hold you to that, sir. Excuse me, I'll just be away from my desk for a few minutes, in the bathroom with a photo of a Brutale...

As a matter of fact, fruityboy has appointed me to test-ride a pre-loved F4-1000S at AMPS at lunchtime today, so I shall record my impressions in this thread afterwards.

[Dazza]

:eek:

I shall hold you to that, sir. Excuse me, I'll just be away from my desk for a few minutes, in the bathroom with a photo of a Brutale...

As a matter of fact, fruityboy has appointed me to test-ride a pre-loved F4-1000S at AMPS at lunchtime today, so I shall record my impressions in this thread afterwards.Looking forward to your reveiw, have they still got the 750 Brutale there aswell !

[Finn]

:eek:

I shall hold you to that, sir. Excuse me, I'll just be away from my desk for a few minutes, in the bathroom with a photo of a Brutale...

As a matter of fact, fruityboy has appointed me to test-ride a pre-loved F4-1000S at AMPS at lunchtime today, so I shall record my impressions in this thread afterwards.

I'm not far from AMPS so why don't you make it a double wammy? PM me.

[limbimtimwim]

As a matter of fact, fruityboy has appointed me to test-ride a pre-loved F4-1000S at AMPS at lunchtime today, so I shall record my impressions in this thread afterwards.When you do, would you pop down my way please? Been awhile since I rode a sprots bike (Taupo..) would be nice to have a go again.

I'll spot you $10 gas money.

[SPman]

I reckon the 1098 Tricolore is a sexier bike than any (sports) MV! Get one of those! mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[Stickchick]

:eek:

I shall hold you to that, sir. Excuse me, I'll just be away from my desk for a few minutes, in the bathroom with a photo of a Brutale...

DAM babe you are sooo easily pleased!!!!!:shit:

[flame]

MMMmmmmmmm.....I got the chance to ride an MV Senna earlier this year over the Rapa.......unbelievible handling and power. AWESOME machine:niceone: made the Prilla feel like a right sack of shite when I got back on it :doh: but of course it's not:bleh:

If ya got the cash and the choice GO for it! though a black 1098s has got that something special about it if ya like twins.

[kiwifruit]

Just got a phone call from the Jay Random, it sounds nice, nice like a f1 car howl

Looking forward to the full report and pictures!
Cheers man

[Finn]

Test Ride Report:

Brutale R - Upright and uptight, almost angry you might say.
F4 - Down low, not slow and it sounds nice.

Action shot...

[jrandom]

Photos attached.

This F4-1000 was definitely the best-sounding bike I've ever ridden. The non-stock exhaust gave it the perfect combination of growl and howl.

Handling-wise, very different, very interesting. At first I thought it was a little recalcitrant, overly heavy perhaps, but then I figured out the inputs required and it was just fine. It's much more settled and solid feeling than your average Jap literbike. Move over slightly and push into the bars rather than down on them and it gently carves into corners rather than tipping and skipping. Inputs that would have a GSX-R jumping all over the place simply do not affect the F4 at all.

A number of times I thought 'oh dear, this is going to have me feeling unsettled', but the bike simply flowed through the corner without any fuss whatsoever. I could have safely used twice the power I did at almost every point on our test ride.

It's a bike that can be ridden very, very fast, I'd say, and can use all of its power, unlike the cheap 'n' cheerful K2 GSX-R1000 I rode to get to AMPS for the demo!

The rear Pirelli Diablo on the F4 was well and truly shagged; both Finn and I had it sliding under brakes on Old North Road. AMPS will have to bite the bullet and fit a new rear pre-sale on this bike, one way or the other.

In terms of power, it feels about as fast as the current crop of Japanese literbikes. The particularly-sensitive fuel injection is noteworthy. Winding the throttle on, though, particularly with the exhaust on this bike, gives you much more of an immersive experience. It's intense. Intimidating almost. One gets the feeling that mastering the F4-1000 would result in a large number of cheaper superbikes being left struggling far behind in one's wake.

Frankly, it'd be too much bike for me.

Finn's Brutale, on the other hand?

:love:

I've always wanted one, and a quick blast on the Brutale R confirms that I was right. I was actually giggling into my helmet coming down the set of twisties below the intersection of Old North and Peak Roads.

I'll 'ave one, I will I will. The power and the glory and the rush and the fear are not so present as with the F4, but the Brutale is just so easy to ride.

- jrandom, your friendly local MV Agusta fanboy for life

[Dazza]

Nice, now lets hear all the doubting Thomas's :bleh:Now some of us know that naked is where it's @.

[Scouse]

Finn's Brutale, on the other hand
I've always wanted one, and a quick blast on the Brutale R confirms that I was right. I was actually giggling into my helmet coming down the set of twisties below the intersection of Old North and Peak Roads.

I'll 'ave one, I will I will. The power and the glory and the rush and the fear are not so present as with the F4, but the Brutale is just so easy to ride.

- jrandom, your friendly local MV Agusta fanboy for lifeYou will have to go for a ride on a Speed Triple if thre brutale was your favorite out of the two you will love the Trumpy

[jrandom]

You will have to go for a ride on a Speed Triple if thre brutale was your favorite out of the two you will love the Trumpy

Yes, I've always wanted a go on a Speed Triple. I'll definitely consider it along with the Brutale and a few others for my next road bike.

[boomer]

i've ridden Finns and Steves... gotta say they're both fun but i'd prefer the F4.

If i was going for a nakid.. They all have there merits, but the 990 woul;d be the beast to have.. i reckon ;)

Nice write up Fish..and Allan.. BUY THE MOTHER FOOOKAH!! either that or the duc from the matrix ;)

[kiwifruit]

Wicked!
Gosh, isn't it pretty...

:love::love:

[boomer]

Wicked!
Gosh, isn't it pretty...

:love::love:

imagine.. no more porridge for you mate.. only the posh cereals from then on in !!!!


DO IT... Do iT!:devil2:

[kiwifruit]

mmmmmmm
yes

where to put the plate?

[jrandom]

Does it wheeeeeelie, Mister?

Ask Finn. He had the front of the F4 waving at the sky in no time flat. I didn't dare.

[NZsarge]

Excellent report Mr Random sir! Now that goes some way to helping me understand what all the fuss is about.....not just "oh they are some awesome! better than any other bike" statements. well done.

[doc]

i've ridden Finns and Steves... gotta say they're both fun but i'd prefer the F4.

If i was going for a nakid.. They all have there merits, but the 990 woul;d be the beast to have.. i reckon ;)

Nice write up Fish..and Allan.. BUY THE MOTHER FOOOKAH!! either that or the duc from the matrix ;)
They are sure are nice naked

[surfchick]

U turns on MVs are not much fun Surfchick, but hairpins are nice and challenging (the really really tight alpine ones )pity were on different islands or we could swap-a-ride one day.:whistle:

hmmm...wonder how much that ferry crossing is...:shifty:

[jrandom]

Now that goes some way to helping me understand what all the fuss is about...

Mmm, yes indeed.

In fact, the best concise way that I can describe the F4-1000 is that the engine feels and sounds like it wants to kill you, and the suspension simply doesn't let it.

Corners and velocities which would have me starting to pucker up and feel both ends of the bike get unsettled on my current stock-suspension K2 GSX-R had the F4 doing no more than lazily clearing its throat and flexing its knees.

In fact, it's the very first bike I've ridden on SH28 and Old North Road that's left me genuinely feeling that, given a few days to play, I could have my knee down on many of those corners without a care in the world.

[MVnut]

hmmm...wonder how much that ferry crossing is...:shifty:

If you're gonna ride all this way to the MVland, I'll pay the ferryman:woohoo:

[MVnut]

Good writeup jrandom.............cheers:niceone:

[scrivy]

MMMmmmmmmm.....
if ya like twins.

I like twins......:whistle::yes::shifty:

[Sensei]

Is the shit one the MV and the excellent one the ZX10? :Pokey:

Neither are shit bikes just one is more $$$$ & abit different from the norm :shifty:

[Coyote]

What's the Brutale like? Does it have the same running gear and performance or is it all detuned?

[MVnut]

What's the Brutale like? Does it have the same running gear and performance or is it all detuned?

Engine in the Brutale is smaller (910 vs 1000) and is tuned for a better torque curve, slightly less power. Feels like a 250 GP bike with higher bars. Power of the 1000 is very addictive, especially the Tamburini which has amazing torque as well (due to the TSS system). Brutale is a wheelie monsta for sure, there's talk of a 1078R Brutale, EICMA show in Milan may show something like this, tell ya next week.:devil2:

[Finn]

I'm not very good at bike right ups but the Brutale and F4 are completely different bikes. The seating position alone makes all the difference. I went for the Brutale because I already had half a sports bike (litre jappa) and I wanted something different. I ride it every day and each time I throw my little legs over it, it's just like the first time. The enjoyment never disappears and it's a great all rounder. Jrandom jumped on it and was throwing it around the place like it was an abused maori kid. As he says, its an easy bike to ride.

In saying that, I'll replace the jappa with another sports bike. I was keen on a 1098s but after riding the F4 with those pipes, I might have to be a complete tosser (no offense MVnut) and have 2 MV's and wait for the 312. The carbon pipes are a must though. It sounds just like a Ferarri.

[Finn]

They are sure are nice naked

Changing the plugs are a bitch eh?

[MVnut]

I'm not very good at bike right ups but the Brutale and F4 are completely different bikes. The seating position alone makes all the difference. I went for the Brutale because I already had half a sports bike (litre jappa) and I wanted something different. I ride it every day and each time I throw my little legs over it, it's just like the first time. The enjoyment never disappears and it's a great all rounder. Jrandom jumped on it and was throwing it around the place like it was an abused maori kid. As he says, its an easy bike to ride.

In saying that, I'll replace the jappa with another sports bike. I was keen on a 1098s but after riding the F4 with those pipes, I might have to be a complete tosser (no offense MVnut) and have 2 MV's and wait for the 312. The carbon pipes are a must though. It sounds just like a Ferarri.
You really NEED a 312R Finn, and while ur at it why don't you buy an air ticket and come have some fun with us in Europe 4th to 13th July 08.The route's probably up on www.fast-travel.ch by now. At least 2 goin from kiwiland in 08, maybe 4 (about 12 in total at the mo). Fookin great fun fangin their back roads..... :cool:

[HDTboy]

Corners and velocities which would have me starting to pucker up and feel both ends of the bike get unsettled on my current stock-suspension K2 GSX-R had the F4 doing no more than lazily clearing its throat and flexing its knees.
How about giving us a fair comparison now that the K2 goes around corners?

I'm not very good at bike right ups but the Brutale and F4 are completely different bikes. The seating position alone makes all the difference. I went for the Brutale because I already had half a sports bike (litre jappa) and I wanted something different. I ride it every day and each time I throw my little legs over it, it's just like the first time. The enjoyment never disappears and it's a great all rounder. Jrandom jumped on it and was throwing it around the place like it was an abused maori kid. As he says, its an easy bike to ride.

In saying that, I'll replace the jappa with another sports bike. I was keen on a 1098s but after riding the F4 with those pipes, I might have to be a complete tosser (no offense MVnut) and have 2 MV's and wait for the 312. The carbon pipes are a must though. It sounds just like a Ferarri.
312's here. I saw one being raced 6 weeks ago

[Finn]

You really NEED a 312R Finn, and while ur at it why don't you buy an air ticket and come have some fun with us in Europe 4th to 13th July 08.The route's probably up on www.fast-travel.ch by now. At least 2 goin from kiwiland in 08, maybe 4 (about 12 in total at the mo). Fookin great fun fangin their back roads..... :cool:

I'll be in the US then. However, I'm spending Christmas with family in Southern France this year so am trying to rent a bike to do a bit of Italy while I'm there.

[doc]

I'll be in the US then. However, I'm spending Christmas with family in Southern France this year so am trying to rent a bike to do a bit of Italy while I'm there.

Could you be a bit more specific on the dates. [SIZE="1"]lookin for a few parts]

[Finn]

Could you be a bit more specific on the dates. [SIZE="1"]lookin for a few parts]

An MV engine might push me over the luggage limit...

[doc]

You missed that one ehore

[jrandom]

How about giving us a fair comparison now that the K2 goes around corners?

I will, I will. And thank you for the dose of black-magic pixie dust you sprinkled on it last night.

Do bear in mind that I have ridden one or two properly set up Japanese bikes this year, so I wasn't comparing the MV entirely blindly.

And, mmm, radial valves. If you ask Chris Mitchell nicely he'll probably let you play with them the first time the MV comes apart.

[kiwifruit]

looks like we have a deal!!!

:eek:

[Finn]

looks like we have a deal!!!

:eek:

Which one?

[kiwifruit]

Which one?

the sexy one

[Pancakes]

I'd leave both their rear tyres a bit more slippery than standard! Which sexy one? MV is the sexiest sounding bike in the world.

[jrandom]

MV is the sexist sounding bike in the world.

And then you put the carbon race exhaust on, and your heart melts even while your cock stiffens...

[kiwifruit]

Which sexy one?

the one Jay Random mentioned / test rode yesterday :yes:

[jrandom]

Jay Random

<_<

You sir shall now receive TWO SWALLOWS.

[Matt Bleck]

K3>MV :Pokey:

[jrandom]

K3>MV :Pokey:

Well, I guess we're going to see, now, aren't we?

:D

[boomer]

the one Jay Random mentioned / test rode yesterday :yes:


Bo0yah!


Racers.... Start YOUR Engines!!! meh..meh.. Foookin neeeeeeeeeeeoooOOOoooww!

[owner]

:blink:No more Kwaka sexy time

[jrandom]

:blink:No more Kwaka sexy time

That Kwak looks like it could use a rinse, and then another wash...

:laugh:

[boomer]

That Kwak looks like it could use a rinse, and then another wash...

:laugh:


u like your oats washed bro?? i knew you liked 'em rolled but.. meh

[jrandom]

u like your oats washed bro?? i knew you liked 'em rolled but.. meh

Washed and rolled and with a drizzle of cream on top.

[owner]

MV stunts its only good from about 2.00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzhKk7tfZ4w

[kiwifruit]

:lol:
classic

[kiwifruit]

MV stunts its only good from about 2.00http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzhKk7tfZ4w

good idea re stunt park,
i dunno bout stunting on an mv tho!!!

EDIT
sponsored! gosh, nice ;)

[bane]

let's not emulate this then eh!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSDSoed6ERI



(was your Zx10r moment as spectacular?)

[jrandom]

(was your Zx10r moment as spectacular?)

Actually, I think that's pretty much how it went...

[Clivoris]

the sexy one

God bless diversity. I can't wait to let you have a fang on the Tuono. I s'pose I should endure a play on the MV just out of politeness while you're doing this.:msn-wink:

[Matt Bleck]

Well, I guess we're going to see, now, aren't we?

:D
win or bin!

[MVnut]

win or bin!

Wasn't it Clint Eastwood that said "You've got two chances......Slim, and None ..........and Slim just left town":wari:

[kiwifruit]

(was your Zx10r moment as spectacular?)

pert near

[slowpoke]

MV is the sexiest sounding bike in the world.

Hmmm, they sound pretty good with the aftermarket pipes but are pretty flat with the stockers. I looked at buying 750 a few years back and thought to myself I'd have to get the pipes, looked at the price for them and that basically put me off the deal.
Best sounding bike? Big call...I can remember hearing a Honda CBX1000 with a 6 into 1 way back in the day and that was pretty special...'course it came with the factory fitted hinge in the middle of the frame so as fantastic as it sounded it it handled equally badly.....

[bane]

some bikeporn from todays cheesecutter meet...

mmmmmm

[kiwifruit]

some bikeporn from todays cheesecutter meet...

mmmmmm

very nice! :drool:

[kiwifruit]

0ZkllM8znx4

[kiwifruit]

One more sleep!! :woohoo:

[Cajun]

awsome work fruity boy

weather looks primo for ya have the weekend to get to know the new girl

[Matt Bleck]

One more sleep!! :woohoo:
meh meh fookin neow!!!!!

[nodrog]

One more sleep!! :woohoo:

until Xmas?

[Finn]

until Xmas?

No. He's going to wake up tomorrow and the tooth fairy will have left a fucking big bike under his pillow.

[nodrog]

No. He's going to wake up tomorrow and the tooth fairy will have left a fucking big bike under his pillow.

thats alot of teeth!

[kiwifruit]

until Xmas?

yes :sunny:

[nodrog]

yes :sunny:

ho ho ho, giz a go!

[skelstar]

Awesome KF. Love the new bike buzz (even if mine is 8 years old).

[Pancakes]

until Xmas?

All the Christmasses he'll ever have will be demoted to 2nd place I feel.....

[MotoGirl]

The next problem will be finding people pretentious enough to ride with you! :bleh:

[boomer]

The next problem will be finding people pretentious enough to ride with you! :bleh:

luck at meeee...luck at meee..... I'll be there Kath!


When you comin up tomorrow bro and u going to the big boys toys.. and whos gonna win the '08 GP and why am i unable to wear white without it making my hips look big?

[kiwifruit]

The next problem will be finding people pretentious enough to ride with you! :bleh:

Ass nifter! :lol:
Its just a bike, innit




When you comin up tomorrow bro and u going to the big boys toys.. and whos gonna win the '08 GP and why am i unable to wear white without it making my hips look big?

I'll be at amps around noon :sunny:
Na, cba :)
Randy de Puniet!!!!! :headbang:
Its all in your head, your hips look great :yes:

[jrandom]

I'll be at amps around noon :sunny:

I'm bringing a camera.

Hope you've cleaned that Viper GT of yours, sunshine. An inspired choice of helmet, I must say. A premonition, perhaps?

<img src="http://moto-images.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/1/9/1/9/0/arai_viper_gt_flag_italian_rear.jpg"/>

<img src="http://i6.tinypic.com/8el2f0p.jpg"/>

[Matt Bleck]

I'm bringing a camera.

Hope you've cleaned that Viper GT of yours, sunshine. An inspired choice of helmet, I must say. A premonition, perhaps?

<img src="http://moto-images.caradisiac.com/IMG/jpg/1/9/1/9/0/arai_viper_gt_flag_italian_rear.jpg"/>

<img src="http://i6.tinypic.com/8el2f0p.jpg"/>
I've never seen that side of his helmet!

[Goblin]

The next problem will be finding people pretentious enough to ride with you! :bleh:Nah, that wont be any where near as much of a problem as finding anyone who will be able to keep up with him!


Congrats KF. No more velcro eh? :laugh:

[kiwifruit]

I've never seen that side of his helmet!

what a c00nt!
you must have seen it for a bit before i pulled away last trackday? >__<




Nah, that wont be any where near as much of a problem as finding anyone who will be able to keep up with him!


Congrats KF. No more velcro eh? :laugh:

aww!
thats more like it
cheers Kel :sunny: :sunny:

[Matt Bleck]

what a c00nt!
you must have seen it for a bit before i pulled away last trackday? >__<


nap, you had placed some back markers in there...... :whistle:

[saul]

Nah, that wont be any where near as much of a problem as finding anyone who will be able to keep up with him!


Congrats KF. No more velcro eh? :laugh:


The Poulan will give it a go:bleh::shifty:

Look fwd to seeing the new machine. There is no doubt that they are piece of art.

[Matt Bleck]

Nah, that wont be any where near as much of a problem as finding anyone who will be able to keep up with him!



My money is on the Silver K3! :first:

[saul]

My money is on the Silver K3! :first:

Mate I am getting better:yes::sunny: Well maybe not that much better but I know how to enjoy myself.:yes:

[Goblin]

The Poulan will give it a go:bleh::shifty:



My money is on the Silver K3! :first:

Is that a Waioeke GP I sense?:eek::confused:

[Matt Bleck]

Is that a Waioeke GP I sense?:eek::confused:
win or bin!!

[saul]

Is that a Waioeke GP I sense?:eek::confused:


How about just to Whangamata sorta evens the odds for me:shifty: ok and the conecting road, thats nice an open for the HP boys:niceone:

[Matt Bleck]

Where's your sense of adventure G?

[adamh]

One more sleep!! :woohoo:

U gonna be back in taupo on sat? if so call in to work and give me a look at the beast. :D

[saul]

Where's your sense of adventure G?

Bit shy of adventure at the mo lol just wanna be up the front somewhere, but watchout cause I bet old blimen Nows-good is watching. :drool:

[Matt Bleck]

Bit shy of adventure at the mo lol just wanna be up the front somewhere, but watchout cause I bet old blimen Nows-good is watching. :drool:
ER6>MV .

[jrandom]

The fruity one rode out of AMPS 45 minutes ago, bound for SH22 and southwards.

Initial txt message comment on the MV: "Different!"

[boomer]

The fruity one rode out of AMPS 45 minutes ago, bound for SH22 and southwards.

Initial txt message comment on the MV: "Different!"

i think i went past Doc.. who was trying to catch Allan as i left him on the on ramp at Green Lane.

Man that is one VERY VERY fine young lady he has there! ......


Enjoy A!

[jrandom]

Just had a quick phone call from somewhere in the west Waikato.

"Better than sex", apparently.

Score one for jrandom's Motorcycle Matchmaking, Inc.

:sweatdrop

[boomer]

so..... wheres the foo0kin ride report!

i dunno.. youngsters thee days! :bash:

[kiwifruit]

= )

[MD]

He'll be home soon..they aren't that comfortable!

Congratulations KF on the new purchase. No more beer for you, it's fine wine from now on.:woohoo:

[Goblin]

:sunny:
Shoulda mown the lawn man!


Congrats again Allan! Looks like puss approves. :2thumbsup :sunny: :sunny:

[saul]

Yummmmmmmmmmmmm very nice indeed, maybe even nicer than that:niceone:

[boomer]

nice.. proudly presented by the cat and lounge!!! i'm lovin it :D

[Goblin]

Can ya feel the lurv!! :grouphug:

[Matt Bleck]

Just had a quick phone call from somewhere in the west Waikato.

"Better than sex", apparently.

Score one for jrandom's Motorcycle Matchmaking, Inc.

:sweatdrop

Wet sex?


= )

Jap crap>Soggy Spaghetti!

[doc]

i think i went past Doc.. who was trying to catch Allan as i left him on the on ramp at Green Lane.

Man that is one VERY VERY fine young lady he has there! ......


Enjoy A!

I was running a bit late and just before Greenlane off ramp going north I see an F4 and a silver something, heading south. I do a quick exit and do the roundabout thing and see a black Cbr I think, get back onto on ramp heading south and there is another F4 in the left hand lane. They must be getting common as muck in Auckland glad they got rid of one. Anyway catch up with Kfriut, indicate I need gas, lead the way to BP Drury for gas. Fitted the video and off to Hwy 22 via pukie. Video not too bad but its like baby photo's only interesting to the parents. Will post it monday.
Have you stopped looking at it yet. It will still be there in the morning you know. Enjoy it, beautiful bike.

[boomer]

I was running a bit late and just before Greenlane off ramp going north I see an F4 and a silver something, heading south. I do a quick exit and do the roundabout thing and see a black Cbr I think, get back onto on ramp heading south and there is another F4 in the left hand lane. They must be getting common as muck in Auckland glad they got rid of one. Anyway catch up with Kfriut, indicate I need gas, lead the way to BP Drury for gas. Fitted the video and off to Hwy 22 via pukie. Video not too bad but its like baby photo's only interesting to the parents. Will post it monday.
Have you stopped looking at it yet. It will still be there in the morning you know. Enjoy it, beautiful bike.

That there cbr thingy was the king of kings...the one.. the only .. OWN THE RACETRACK!

show us the vids !! :headbang:

[doc]

That there cbr thingy was the king of kings...the one.. the only .. OWN THE RACETRACK!

show us the vids !! :headbang:


:doh:sorry

[BarBender]

Well done Fruity.:niceone: It looks great. :drool: Enjoy!




Bastard

[emaN]

Just had a quick phone call from somewhere in the west Waikato.

"Better than sex", apparently.

with it's own peculiarly distinctive odours too:whistle:

[boomer]

:doh:sorry

no worries Doc; shame we missed ya at Amps and just as well i took Allan the back way and held him up for a 'while'

[saul]

That there cbr thingy was the king of kings...the one.. the only .. OWN THE RACETRACK!

show us the vids !! :headbang:



I got a vid uploading at the moment:niceone: hehehe

[NotaGoth]

He lies. He purchased the bike for me. Early 21st present.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Puddlejumperz > Mv's




At least now I'll c an Mv being ridden how it was built to be ridden...:stupid:

[Deviant Esq]

Any further writeups / photos / thoughts, oh KiwiFruity one?

Well done that jrandom one. Still cracking a semi thinking about it?! :eek:

[jrandom]

Still cracking a semi thinking about it?!

Not right now; I just had a wank over mvagusta.com. It'll be back up in another fifteen minutes or so, though.

[kiwifruit]

Any further writeups / photos / thoughts, oh KiwiFruity one?


coming soon :)

[imdying]

Not right now; I just had a wank over mvagusta.com. It'll be back up in another fifteen minutes or so, though.That's not a bad turn around time for someone of your age! :wari:

[texmo]

Very Nice bike KF, Waiting on that write up yo

[speed63]

Congrats Allan, Are you gonna keep it clean?

[FROSTY]

hey alan--send a pm to MV nut -I know he's been yakking to ya in this thread but he really does know a shit load about MV's
I rode his tamborini when I was in Chch and my gosh I was so tempted to carry on riding -

[Cr1MiNaL]

hey alan--send a pm to MV nut -I know he's been yakking to ya in this thread but he really does know a shit load about MV's
I rode his tamborini when I was in Chch and my gosh I was so tempted to carry on riding -

So what ur saying is MV's are shit...? :devil2:

[MVnut]

So what ur saying is MV's are shit...? :devil2:

NO........... he's saying he wanted to nick off with my Tamburini. I think he figured if he brought it back(in one piece) he'd get to ride some of my other MVs, or maybe even an H2 if he's really lucky.:Oi:

[FROSTY]

You forget mate--your H2's were locked in a shed in papakura-so no Ill pass on H2 riding:devil2:--unless its a harris framed H2 with ohh I dunno even rgv brakes -preferably gixxer thou brakes
Hey did I tell ya I managed to upset the owner of "that" hotel in wellytown --my sorta offhand comment -"ohh they cant be "that" exclusive i rode one just last week - the expensive version with all the hot up goodies'--- it diddnt go down well

[MVnut]

You forget mate--your H2's were locked in a shed in papakura-so no Ill pass on H2 riding:devil2:--unless its a harris framed H2 with ohh I dunno even rgv brakes -preferably gixxer thou brakes
Hey did I tell ya I managed to upset the owner of "that" hotel in wellytown --my sorta offhand comment -"ohh they cant be "that" exclusive i rode one just last week - the expensive version with all the hot up goodies'--- it diddnt go down well

Oh to have been a fly on that wall, lol:woohoo::woohoo::laugh:

[MVnut]

Ey Frosty, wot's wrong with H2 brakes???????????:Punk:

[FROSTY]

they have brakes???
you forget I watched you chasing Mr Crosby at pukie once a long time ago -"brakes wot brakes" he said to me

[imdying]

Woah woah woah! You've a H2 stashed away as well?? :love:

[MVnut]

Woah woah woah! You've a H2 stashed away as well?? :love:

Guilty as charged ( or should that be 'guilty as sin !')::rockon:

[FROSTY]

Picture this--big house -'somewhere in NZ' You rock on in and meet MV annd Mrs MV -into the lounge --good sized --nice
then he says --hey come on into the "bike" room
stroll into a big room and theres a line of drool making bikes all parked on the carpet----then he wonders why he beat me at pool

[imdying]

Guilty as charged ( or should that be 'guilty as sin !')::rockon:I must tell you... it's becoming increasingly more difficult not to hate you :whistle:

[MVnut]

I must tell you... it's becoming increasingly more difficult not to hate you :whistle:

So I don't tell you about the Z1 then:chase::banana::banana:

[imdying]

:clap: You live where again? :shifty: