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The Big J
29th October 2007, 01:52
So I got to London about 10 days ago. I had been travelling nearly for 1 year, leaving behind a job and feeling that money was motivating me to neglect some of the priorities in my life.

I do my big trip, learn a lot, am challenged, find again a feeling of self-worth and finally, make plans to work and pay off a bit of credit card debt in London.

I flew into London where thankfully I have accomodation free of charge until the end of November (although the hot water is broken!). On Monday after trying to settle in I sit up in bed, brew a coffee and I realise 'I need to look for a job today and I have absolutely no idea how to do it.' Shit, better make another coffee. A little depressed I procrastinate but finally call some recruitment agents. They sound upbeat about my possibilities but then they always do.

I meet with a couple of them who start palming my CV out to advertised jobs. I discuss the situation (I am looking for a challenging job in finance, or a short term opportunity in something I already have experience with). It is not a great time to be job-hunting, the city is in relative termoil with the sup-prime situation and a bank run in the UK having shown up the Investment Banks to have bought a lot of pups and that means heads start rolling.

But opportunity is everywhere for someone capable. I can demonstrate having done a quality job. But I want to break out of a routine of being just like every other applicant, CV through a recruiter, over a desk at HR (I have a dismal opinion of most recruiters, and most HR people, perhaps just my prejudice). I don't want to wait for the right job, I want to make people aware that I am about and I want to work for them. Right now!

Now that I am moving with pursuing work I remember more ways to market myself. I speak fluent Spanish. Lots of the job specs I have read list a language as an advantage, it has some simple applications. Maybe I can get in touch with banks in Madrid.

I remember a contact in New Zealand, a friend's father who had been a stockbroker and is now a director at Citibank. It is time for some advice, I call him before attempting to cold-call a few bank desks. Cold-calling is likely to just get me referred to HR anyway, he doesn't like my chances. He suggests that there is a lot of grind ahead. Send your CV into HR via the websites- Goldman Sachs, JB Were, Merill Lynch, everyone via email.

But it still feels like I am not making any point of difference here. Somewhere someone in the city just needs to employ someone who is capable, can do what ever work needs doing, someone who can be creative and find solutions etc and the person who needs this doesn't know anything about me.

I also want to keep my momentum rolling. This morning I received about 3 calls from one recruitment agency who are applying for pretty well every middle-office role they get it seems. All fairly elementary but seems a way to get a foot in the door. I have applied for a few internet ads also yesterday, no response yet but I will call the agents now.

So, I am broke in London, my big decision today is whether to spend about $400-500 on a second-hand laptop or not. I think I am gradually spending a lot on internet cafes etc and putting a lot of time into running around sending cvs about.

My real dilemma is how can I hustle for some more opportunities.
I think I will line up some casual work on Monday, probably just some labour for a friend but to get me out of the house and get me making something. It would be a bit unfair to take a bar job and leave it immediately but I had planned on picking up a second job also - it just seems the main job would be better to line up in terms of a timetable etc.

Any suggestions or thoughts on being creative in the hunt?
Or should I just get something simple in a bar and bide my time, going to interviews during the day?

thanks, I hope a few can relate to the frustration of feeling powerless in this situation!
any experiences good or bad also welcome

sAsLEX
29th October 2007, 03:12
Speights pub?

Toaster
29th October 2007, 04:21
My experience with UK based imports has not been a good one. Short work hours, reactive and slack work ethics from what i have seen to date.

Keep being as proactive as you can in finding work and if you can get a nose-in, work hard and show those buggers how kiwi's work hard. Consider positions lower than your current expectation just to secure employment to start with. Your sights may be set too high in the current loose employment environment over there.

Look at me, it's 5am and I am off to the office. Head down and get stuck in dude. Finding work can be very hard on the old confidence.

NhuanH
29th October 2007, 05:37
You don't happen to have any experience in telecommunications: the networks side of things? :2thumbsup
I've been on the recruiting drive for the past month or so.

I agree with you, there *should* be something going within the banking/finance sector. I know a few people in those circles and I have heard that they are still old school in how they go about things in terms of recruitment.
I can check for you with regards to the finance sector, but I have found that in my field there is a particular CV format over here, quite different to UnZud.

I think the adage that Kiwis (and Antipodeans generally) are well received remains true, it's just cracking through with that precious first UK experience that can be challenging, as you can attest to.

Give me some contact details and I'll try to help, even if it's just a chat over a coffee.

Cold time of year to be dossing in a place without proper hot water!:cold:

Take care,
Nhuan

scracha
29th October 2007, 06:15
My experience with UK based imports has not been a good one. Short work hours, reactive and slack work ethics from what i have seen to date.

You know the saying "pay peanuts..." ?

The Big J
29th October 2007, 23:10
You don't happen to have any experience in telecommunications: the networks side of things? :2thumbsup
I've been on the recruiting drive for the past month or so.

I agree with you, there *should* be something going within the banking/finance sector. I know a few people in those circles and I have heard that they are still old school in how they go about things in terms of recruitment.
I can check for you with regards to the finance sector, but I have found that in my field there is a particular CV format over here, quite different to UnZud.

Give me some contact details and I'll try to help, even if it's just a chat over a coffee.

Cold time of year to be dossing in a place without proper hot water!:cold:

Take care,
Nhuan

Ha, well I got a shower down at the public pool so it isn't so bad! I have a fire so staying warm not much of a problem.

thanks, I won't post my CV on KB for er obvious potential to be lampooned but if you email josh dot forde at yahoo dot com I can come back. I have a phone number over here + 44 7 887651201. I'm not asking anyone here to gift me a job but if you have contacts who have either a job or some suggestions or experience to share, a coffee would be great.

And alas, no nothing in telecomms although I would be willing to learn! No IT is not my strong point. I can understand the processes/read what people are doing when they use SQL but I don't have the know-how to make IT systems work behind a user interface.

thanks


anyone who thinks I should make some calls, suggestions on who to call or how? :crybaby:

Cibby
30th October 2007, 01:46
I moved to the UK 7 months ago with Postie, it took him 3 weeks to find a job and then a further month to start and took me 5 weeks to find a job and another 3 weeks of reference checking before i started and then a MONTH before we got paid. After 5 weeks the offers came flooding in and I had 5 to choose from.

Just realise that everything in London takes more time, there are that many more jobs (and there are loads) there are that many more recruitment agents and that many more people applying for those jobs.. It will take a bit longer that you should expect if you are used to the NZ market!

Hound your recruitment guys, make them work for you because teh commissions over here are fucken huge. I got my job via Reed, (www.reed.co.uk) and they were really good, huge and they speclize in the financial services industy.

Good Luck!

The Big J
30th October 2007, 06:47
thanks for the lead on the agency.

First interview with HSBC for a temp role, apparently they're looking for someone to start yesterday (literally) and I am the only one they have na interview for so wish me luck!

Will chase some more leads tomorrow morning.

Josh

The Big J
1st November 2007, 03:44
Hey,

thanks to those who replied. I got a job, at HSBC, just short term and perhaps not that challenging but a job, one where they pay me.

got the offer (and a second today) from two interviews so I was doing okay just impatient with process.

cheers

Fat Tony
1st November 2007, 04:29
Congrats on the job :2thumbsup

I'm looking for an Actionscriptor to be based in Leeds if you fancy a change :lol: