Twisted gloves

[rwh]

Well, the lining anyway.

Is this considered normal and an acceptable risk for gloves? Waterproof ones in particular?

Was stuck for ages at the top of the Takas, Wasp and Freakshow assisting and advising, trying to get my little finger into my glove in which the little finger liner had twisted or knotted itself in some way. In the end rode with my finger bent and crammed in as best I could, in some considerable discomfort.

The shop tells me that there's no way a waterproof liner can be fixed into the glove without puncturing it and therefore making it leak (yeah right) and therefore it was my fault, possibly inadvertently, for not taking them off correctly.

I say glove makers must know about this issue, and should make them such that this is hard if not impossible to do. Especially for a $175 pair of gloves.

I've had them about a week - got them for the Suzuki Trackday, since they required leather - waterproofness was never a big concern.

Have others suffered much from this problem?

Opinions?

Thanks

Richard

[007XX]

You paid how much??? :shit:

Jeepers, at that price, I'd want more than a sore pinky...:laugh:

All gloves will generally have a warning on them telling you not to take your gloves off without first grabbing the fingertips of it in your other hand.

It has happened to me before to forget to do this, and the liner did misbehave, but it was reasonnably easy enough to put back in.

Are they the right size for you? Cos if they're really snug, they'll be a pain to put back right...

[pritch]

Haven't had that problem, could be to do with the cheap gloves. :dodge:

The guy is right about sewing waterproof material, a row of holes generally doesn't do much to keep water out.

My pet peave is the Spidi lined gloves I have. Luxury to put on when your hands are dry, impossible to get back on once your hands get wet...

Whatever you do to fix it, do it *very* carefully, that lining is fragile.

[ninjac]

You paid how much??? :shit:

I would have thought thats a fair price for gloves.

[007XX]

I would have thought thats a fair price for gloves.

well admitedly, the chicks' ones may be cheaper due to us having smaller hands...:p

But personally I would expect to pay no more than $100 for some decent ones...

[Hitcher]

Have others suffered much from this problem?

Yes. And have subsequently become a discerning buyer of gloves. I currently use a pair of Helds as winter gloves, Clover MT03s as weatherproof all season gloves, and RJays or Drimesh as my summer gloves. All of these are brilliant for their purpose. None of these has a liner that comes adrift from the glove proper.

[scumdog]

Had it happen a few times, takes ages to get the pinky back into place, sometimes 'huffing' into the cuff blows the liner back into place but if it's wet.... hoo-boy! it'll drive you mad trying!

[Busy]

I got the dri rider gloves and have had the pinky finger problem, usually screwing the finger in the finger hole can fix it up but have ridden in discomfort on group ride because of it.
Is like a duvet cover problem - but on a smaller scale

[MotoGirl]

But personally I would expect to pay no more than $100 for some decent ones...

You could easily double that for something really sporty!

[rwh]

All gloves will generally have a warning on them telling you not to take your gloves off without first grabbing the fingertips of it in your other hand.

They told me that when I bought them, but weren't particularly clear that I had to make sure to get every layer - I thought I was just avoiding pulling one finger harder than the other, twisting them out of shape and making them ugly. And while I was being reasonably careful, it seems to me inevitable that I'd miss it one day.


The guy is right about sewing waterproof material, a row of holes generally doesn't do much to keep water out.
Agreed. But I'd disagree that sewing is the only way to attach materials together; glue seems appropriate? Also, I had a slight misunderstanding about what was meant by a waterproof glove - it seems it means that the water won't get to my hand, not that the leather won't get soggy. I figured it was a fancy coating on the leather, rather than a plastic glove stuffed inside.

I currently use a pair of Helds as winter gloves, Clover MT03s as weatherproof all season gloves, and RJays or Drimesh as my summer gloves. All of these are brilliant for their purpose. None of these has a liner that comes adrift from the glove proper.
So it seems it is in fact possible to do it right.

But the consensus is I've got no comeback on these ones? :(

Richard

[Ixion]

Y' always get that with proper winter gloves. It's the way they're meant to be. The solution, as all experienced bikers know is simplicity itself.

Leave the fingers in the glove.

Spare set in y'pocket and there y'are.

Have a word with Igor if you don't have the QD variety, he'll fix you up. What goes round, comes round. Just be sure he gives you a proper matched set. All his rabbiting about his beautiful neat stitching doesn't mean a damn if they don't match. Trust me on this.

[TLMAN]

Had it happen a few times, takes ages to get the pinky back into place, sometimes 'huffing' into the cuff blows the liner back into place but if it's wet.... hoo-boy! it'll drive you mad trying!

HAHAHA hell yeah, :mad:mad enough that I pulled the thing inside and out and cut the end off the fu@#*ng finger. Ah well they were only $200!!:crybaby:

[scumdog]

Also, I had a slight misunderstanding about what was meant by a waterproof glove - it seems it means that the water won't get to my hand, not that the leather won't get soggy. I figured it was a fancy coating on the leather, rather than a plastic glove stuffed inside.
Richard

Me too, - and I was gutted to find out the exterior was a soggy mass after a wet ride.

So now I use 'Bre-adbags', fancy Italian glove covers. 100% waterproof.

Although the other day a workmate droppped off these brand new 'old-skool' leather gloves with a lambskin lining and a 'hidden in the zip-up compartment' water-proof overgloves.

Must give them a try when the weather is colder again.

[Weaver]

I have this problem with my Icor gloves. The pinky finger on the left hand is a little hard to get in, Especially when they are wet. But I put this down to the fact that Icor gear is absolutely crap. :angry2:

[MyGSXF]

Ya might get some funny looks.. :msn-wink: but keep a chop stick or something similar in ya tankbag.. :rolleyes: If my finger liner comes out or gets bunched up.. I use it to push the liner back down into the glove finger :banana:

Jen :rockon:

[scumdog]

Ya might get some funny looks.. :msn-wink: but keep a chop stick or something similar in ya tankbag.. :rolleyes: If my finger liner comes out or gets bunched up.. I use it to push the liner back down into the glove finger :banana:

Jen :rockon:

O wise words my daughter - I have used the blunt end of a new pencil more than once - ideal for the job.:yes::clap:

[MyGSXF]

O wise words my daughter - I have used the blunt end of a new pencil more than once - ideal for the job.:yes::clap:

Ahh.. there ya go then Pa.. ya DO get ya unmatched intelligence & startling good looks from ya darlin daughter then... :lol:

[scumdog]

Ahh.. there ya go then Pa.. ya DO get ya unmatched intelligence & startling good looks from ya darlin daughter then... :lol:

Yup, it's all in the breeding, all in the breeding...:done:

[rwh]

Ya might get some funny looks.. :msn-wink: but keep a chop stick or something similar in ya tankbag.. :rolleyes: If my finger liner comes out or gets bunched up.. I use it to push the liner back down into the glove finger :banana:

Jen :rockon:

We spent some time trying to push it back with the ball-end of a brake lever - strangely it seemed to go all the way to the end, yet my finger, which is roughly the same size, didn't :( The shop suggested a knitting needle (blunt end); I don't know if smaller is better for this?

They've got my gloves at the moment; will bear this in mind for the future ...

Thanks,

Richard

[MyGSXF]

The shop suggested a knitting needle

Lols.. Classic.. :lol: Bugger the chop stick.. the looks ya would get producing a "knitting needle" would be priceless.. :first:

[pritch]

Agreed. But I'd disagree that sewing is the only way to attach materials together; glue seems appropriate?

Not entirely, the "membrane" is supposed to let moisture pass one way but not the other. Gore-Tex was originally used to create artificial heart valves. Now there are many imitators and a lot of other uses including gloves & boots etc etc.

I note that my Gore-Tex lined boots come with a warning not to use traditional leather preservatives as this interferes with the ability of the boots to breath.

It's likely glue would inhibit breathability a whole lot more than boot polish. One day if I'm feeling daring I might try and remove the lining from my jacket or pants to see how they're held together. But not tonight thanks

[Solarwind]

Lining coming loose in waterproof gloves... I've run into that problem with cheap gloves that were glued together (guess what happens when your hands sweat? The glue comes unstuck), but have never had a problem with my $200 Spidi NT gloves. They have a removable inner glove, that is stiched inside-out (so there are no seams to irritate your skin), so you put the inner glove on then slide your hand inside the outer glove, which is waterproof. They're comfy as, have never had wet hands and they have lasted for years and years. I don't know if Spidi still make them.

[Freakshow]

The shop suggested a knitting needle (blunt end); I don't know if smaller is better for this?


I just suggest next time don't take them off! Because the last thing you want to do is pull a knitting needle out at the top of the hill. I do suggest a second set for when these happen! A dry set and wet set

[rwh]

Lols.. Classic.. :lol: Bugger the chop stick.. the looks ya would get producing a "knitting needle" would be priceless.. :first:

Has the advantage that if I have to cut the lining out, I could knit a new one ... if I could remember how to knit ...

Richard

[rwh]

Not entirely, the "membrane" is supposed to let moisture pass one way but not the other.
...
It's likely glue would inhibit breathability

I was thinking of just a blob at the fingertip. That's what I'm tempted to do if it happens again, and I have to dismantle them. I figure a little blob of silicone in each fingertip should do the job, while retaining breathability round the sides.

Richard

[MyGSXF]

Has the advantage that if I have to cut the lining out, I could knit a new one ... if I could remember how to knit ...

Richard

cast on.. knit one.. pearl one.. knit one.. pearl one.. :laugh:

[Renegade]

cripes do people still knit?????

alas ive had the same issue with my gloves to, mostly when there wet :bye: