Why does the population of arrogant men seem to be increasing?

[*MissNey*]

topic for the GIRLS, i repeat the GIRLS (just incase you guys missed it the first time:P)


is it just me or do 'nice guys' seem to be disappearing at a fast rate? i went out to celebrate my birthday last night, and it because it was a girls night i just pretended that i wasnt single as I just wanted to spend time with my mates.

a**hole number #1::2guns:
although he was really sleazy i was just trying to let him down gently because well, im not a bitch. so when he asked if i was single and i lied and said no, he went off at me saying i 'led him on' (this was two minutes into the conversation by the way) and that if im not single why am i even out clubbing? he wasnt too amused when i said my bf decided to let me off the chain tonight

a**hole number #2::bash:
a guy actually used, no joke a pick up line along the lines of 'how about we go back to my place and do the things im going to tell everyone we did anyway' when i fake laughed and politely turned him down he apologised and said he just assumed i was yet another 'aussie skank' that had 'a thing' for maoris so he wanted to try his luck :S:S


last but not least
a**hole number #3::angry2:
he tried to pick up my mate, they kind of knew eachother so when she declined (GIRLS NIGHT HELLO) he went around spreading crap about how she sleeps around etc



what is with the increase in a**holes? or is it just me thats noticing? in which case where on earth did all the nice guys go!!!

[chanceyy]

first off happy birthday for yesterday


second .. there are no decent men left .. they been all taken by bytches :lol:

[Nasty]

Reading this I know that I am not missing much being shacked up with the Grub (beign a bitch and all). Bloody hell ... if guys had used those lines I would have tweated their pressure points a little ... I can't believe they think that they can get away with that.

[_Gina_]

All I can offer is;

Use sharp tongued humour and do not entertain the idiots, then the intelligent/good looking ones will notice you and then you'll be rocking.

Failling that, "fuck off homo" works just as well.

There will always be idiots hun, I don't think they have increased in numbers though.

[NighthawkNZ]

Obviousily you haven't met me... but sorry I taken ;)

[*MissNey*]

haha cheers, well hopefully they havent increased in numbers. maybe i just need to take off the 'loser magnet' i have attached to my forehead

[Aero165]

*ignores the "Women only part"*

Sounds like now days girls need to go to town with a shotgun:lol::Playnice::girlfight:

[yungatart]

Moost of the men I hang around with/meet are fantastic...you must be looking in all the wrong places.

[NighthawkNZ]

haha cheers, well hopefully they havent increased in numbers. maybe i just need to take off the 'loser magnet' i have attached to my forehead

ummm well yes that wouldn't help :doh:

[HRT]

Obviousily you haven't met me... but sorry I taken ;)


Ditto... but without the taken part :niceone:

Must be a Dunedin thing, huh Nighthawk??

[Grub]

You're confused. There's pletty of nice guys, they're with nice women (or men). Don't bag all males because of the losers - we don't like them either.

The only place the losers can go is where you were. Oh and guess why they're back there often?

[Edbear]

topic for the GIRLS, i repeat the GIRLS (just incase you guys missed it the first time:P)

... in which case where on earth did all the nice guys go!!!



Garn, ya know guys jus' can't resist threads like this!!!:bleh:

As to the next question, obviously not to night clubs!:niceone:

[MSTRS]

Most of the men I hang around with/meet are fantastic...

You...what!!?? Why is the partner always the last to know?
*stomps off to 'fix' your bike*

[Monamie]

haha cheers, well hopefully they havent increased in numbers. maybe i just need to take off the 'loser magnet' i have attached to my forehead

I know exactly what you mean! I am sure since I have been single I have developed a sign above my head that says "Welcome losers":eek: and "How about sex?":sleep:

I stay away from clubs-I have had many night ruined by annoying arses and even thought of wearing my old wedding ring just to make them Fark off!!

I love a good conversation with out the :drool: over my bust or whats in my leathers:devil2: and you can't beat a male best mate-way better than alot of girlfriends.

I think Cher said it best-"Men are a luxury not a necessity".:oi-grr:

I like to think that what will be-will be and if someone comes along that is my best friend first, and it developes into something more-sweet!!:woohoo:

[chanceyy]

I know exactly what you mean! I am sure since I have been single I have developed a sign above my head that says "Welcome losers":eek: and "How about sex?":sleep:

I stay away from clubs-I have had many night ruined by annoying arses and even thought of wearing my old wedding ring just to make them Fark off!!

I love a good conversation with out the :drool: over my bust or whats in my leathers:devil2: and you can't beat a male best mate-way better than alot of girlfriends.

I think Cher said it best-"Men are a luxury not a necessity".:oi-grr:

I like to think that what will be-will be and if someone comes along that is my best friend first, and it developes into something more-sweet!!:woohoo:

Never go to clubs .. prob to old now anyhow :killingme

[oldrider]

What a shame, I was either too early (in this life) or too late (in the next life) for you gals. Damn! :lol: Life can be cruel, can't it. :yes: John.

[Monamie]

Never go to clubs .. prob to old now anyhow :killingme

You're never to old for a bit of Clubbing :bash:
Hee Hee.

[chanceyy]

You're never to old for a bit of Clubbing :bash:
Hee Hee.

oh that kinda :bash: is no prob its the other type of clubbing that I am way to old for :lol:

[Mr. Peanut]

You're an arsehole magnet, it goes with the looks.

[James Deuce]

Nice guys don't get laid.

I reckon it's directly proportional to the number of arrogant women quite frankly.

You know, the ones that try to exclude men and then shout bloody murder when men try to exclude women.

[Mr. Peanut]

Yeah, market dynamics come into it too. The illusion of scarcity increases attractiveness.

Play hard to get, arrogance etc, and women run after you. Offer to help them, and we're just another guy trying to get into your pants... :doh:

[Edbear]

Nice guys don't get laid.



Now I'm confused! I thought I was a nice guy... Maybe I'm bad...?:rolleyes:

[NighthawkNZ]

Nice guys don't get laid.


but they get love made to them...





oh no its turned wishy washy :doh:

[scracha]

Nice guys don't get laid.


That's true. Mates and I would go clubbing in Glasgow or Edinburgh. One was a good looking bastard so the girls would chat him up. One tried being Mr Nice Guy and bought the ladies drinks (mug). Myself, I'd just stay slightly above the paralytic stage and wait till 4am chucking out time to try my chances.

Far and away the most successful was my mate Andy who'd just go up to dozens of girls with the chat up line of "want to fuck". After dozens of "fuck off's" he'd ALWAYS go back to some chick's place. Who says women don't like honesty?

[cowpoos]

first off happy birthday for yesterday


second .. there are no decent men left .. they been all taken by bytches :lol:
erm...ahem...errrr...erm...ahem!! :)

[Sollyboy]

Moost of the men I hang around with/meet are fantastic...you must be looking in all the wrong places.

She must be , anyway she knows where the airport is :violin::violin::violin::wavey::wavey::wavey:

[fredie]

u had 3 dickhead guys last night . but how many guys at the club??? more than 3 . so there is alot of nice guys around :beer:

[Bren]

First of all, *MissNey* I wish you a happy birthday (a bit belated of course)...
...Actually I was with my wife celebrating her birthday yesterday. We had a fantastic day, and the food we ate was divine....then in the evening we had a nice bath together and....(think I better shut up here)...

Sorry you had a lousy night with jerk offs, but there are some good blokes out there, cos I know I aint the last one...Chin up girl, and remember you dont find Love, Love finds you...

[Xaria]

Obviousily you haven't met me... but sorry I taken ;)

Sorry about NH, but as soon as you say keep out.. in he goes.

Must try: NH get into the kitchen and make me a coffee

[NUTBAR]

Nice guys don't get laid.

I reckon it's directly proportional to the number of arrogant women quite frankly.

You know, the ones that try to exclude men and then shout bloody murder when men try to exclude women.


+1
:whistle::done:

[NUTBAR]

Yeah, market dynamics come into it too. The illusion of scarcity increases attractiveness.

Play hard to get, arrogance etc, and women run after you. Offer to help them, and we're just another guy trying to get into your pants... :doh:

+1
:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[marty]

they're probably directly proportional to the number of anally renentive, demanding, holier than thou, 'i have a vagina therefore i have all the power' women out there.

i'm glad i'm not looking for a life partner in the 2000's.

[chanceyy]

erm...ahem...errrr...erm...ahem!! :)

ohh sorry darlin even though your a decent type (most of the time) I believe we might be discussion relationship type material here .. not ummm... well you know the "other kind" :whistle::2guns::clap:

[klingon]

Don't give up yet! There are still some nice guys out there. The yukky arrogant sleazy ones are just sent to test you. If you can deal with them AND maintain your sense of humour, then you start finding the nice ones.

Chin up, chickie! :yes:

[trump-lady]

first off happy birthday for yesterday


second .. there are no decent men left .. they been all taken by bytches :lol:

or turned into bytches
or procreated with bytches

or :shit: and run when they see me!

[breakaway]

Quit going to clubs to find 'relationship material' guys then. Everyone knows guys go 'clubbing' for one reason and one reason only.

[trump-lady]

nah for realz......night clubs big no no for decent men. Always the slurring jacked up one liner men that feel their need to "assist" a group of women out on the town.......
Always been that way......

[scumdog]

Obviousily you haven't met me... but sorry I taken ;)

Likewise.

CB would be pissed off if you took me.

[Pex Adams]

The reason why all there are so many assholes out there, is because Crasherfromwayback keeps selling so many Wanker inducing Harleys.

Harley = Wanker
Wanker = 'Hurry up, someone kick me in the head quick!'

[scumdog]

The reason why all there are so many assholes out there, is because Crasherfromwayback keeps selling so many Wanker inducing Harleys.

Harley = Wanker
Wanker = 'Hurry up, someone kick me in the head quick!'

What the hell are you on?????:blink:

[Disco Dan]

*insert nice guy here*

Good morning angels..... :chase:



:2guns: "peow peow"

[Str8 Jacket]

I reckon it's directly proportional to the number of arrogant women quite frankly.



I kinda agree but I reckon its also got to do with the fact that there seems to be a huge increase in hyper-sensitive women out there! Remember, woman can be bitches too!

I have a great man and some awesome male friends. Guess im lucky! :D

[Finn]

Whatever girlfriend...

I mean, like what sort of chick goes like clubbing and like expects to meet the man of her dreams like?

Slappers get jerks. Full stop.

[Pex Adams]

What the hell are you on?????:blink:

When you ride a Harley, you become a wanker - Obviously your an exception:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[007XX]

I kinda agree but I reckon its also got to do with the fact that there seems to be a huge increase in hyper-sensitive women out there! Remember, woman can be bitches too!

I have a great man and some awesome male friends. Guess im lucky! :D

Yep, I agree...and me too, I got a great man. But we were both messed about by our respective previous other halves when we met, an it took a while to adjust.

Don't despair MissNey. There definitely are still lots of lovely intelligent guys out there...

[klingon]

Whatever girlfriend...

I mean, like what sort of chick goes like clubbing and like expects to meet the man of her dreams like?

Slappers get jerks. Full stop.

I don't think she went clubbing to find men. I think she went clubbing to have some fun and the jerks found her.

Unfortunately the jerks are louder than the nice guys so there seem to be more of them around.

[jrandom]

I think she went clubbing to have some fun...

Explain this to me, because it's not something I've ever understood.

What is the point of hanging around in a very noisy, badly-lit room, slowly getting a headache from dehydration and various mind-altering substances, with ridiculously loud and awful music assaulting your eardrums, and no chance of conversing with anyone whatsoever unless you bellow at the top of your lungs an inch away from their head?

Oh, yeah, you get to stand in the middle of a flat space and get sweaty armpits while wiggling around out of time to the aforementioned awful music.

Yeah. 'Clubbing'. Yay.

Shudder.

Anyone who enjoys that shit is instantly disqualified as anything more than a passing acquaintance, as far as I'm concerned.

[bubbles]

I found the same thing when I used to go out with friends a lot. I like to go out 'clubbing' because I love dancing! But the amount of guys who grope you is disgusting. I didn't quite realise it until I didn't go for a while (was far too cold!!) and then went out recently and had guys all over me, like, give me some space!
So I think I will restict my dancing to my house from now on. Even dancing at concerts is terrible. Guys seem to think that cause you are shaking your ass they have to grab it!!
I thought it was an Auckland thing, good to know it isn't just us!!

[Monamie]

I found the same thing when I used to go out with friends a lot. I like to go out 'clubbing' because I love dancing! But the amount of guys who grope you is disgusting. I didn't quite realise it until I didn't go for a while (was far too cold!!) and then went out recently and had guys all over me, like, give me some space!
So I think I will restict my dancing to my house from now on. Even dancing at concerts is terrible. Guys seem to think that cause you are shaking your ass they have to grab it!!
I thought it was an Auckland thing, good to know it isn't just us!!


Must be nation wide:pinch:. I haven't been for years but used to go for a girls night out to dance too-not to pick up guys:mad:.
I did come across afew nice guys that did just want to dance-and have to tell you all that in my twenties got asked to dance by a gentleman who was here to race at Manfield-he told me and his friend were professional bike riders- my friend and I laughed........but I had a lovely dance with Roger Freeth-RIP:bleh::gob: Didn't know who he was at the time but a genuine person and excellent biker/driver.

[jonbuoy]

Explain this to me, because it's not something I've ever understood.

What is the point of hanging around in a very noisy, badly-lit room, slowly getting a headache from dehydration and various mind-altering substances, with ridiculously loud and awful music assaulting your eardrums, and no chance of conversing with anyone whatsoever unless you bellow at the top of your lungs an inch away from their head?

Oh, yeah, you get to stand in the middle of a flat space and get sweaty armpits while wiggling around out of time to the aforementioned awful music.

Yeah. 'Clubbing'. Yay.

Shudder.

Anyone who enjoys that shit is instantly disqualified as anything more than a passing acquaintance, as far as I'm concerned.

They like dancing.

[jrandom]

They like dancing.

That shit done in 'clubs' ain't dancing. It's random jumping about.

[007XX]

That shit done in 'clubs' ain't dancing. It's random jumping about.

I must be getting old, cos I'd tend to agree...when I was 16, I used to go clubbing a lot, to "rave parties" and the likes as well...

And admitedly, back then I had a whale of a time.

But now, I prefer a good BBQ on the deck in summer with a good bunch of mates and some witty repartee...

I guess a lot of young people have to go through that stage...:eek: Gawd, I sound like my mother :thud:

[NighthawkNZ]

That shit done in 'clubs' ain't dancing. It's random jumping about.

but that about all I can do... ;)

[jonbuoy]

Yeah I'm not into clubs anymore either. Not all clubs are the same- "drinkers" clubs are the meat markets where people go to hook up, dance music clubs - are where people go to dance - drugs are optional - loads of people go along straight as a die and have a blast.

[jrandom]

but that about all I can do... ;)

Likewise.

I therefore restrict my physical endeavours to things that do not require grace and skill, or getting all sweaty in the middle of a room packed with people at midnight, and tend to engage in social activities that require activation of something other than the reptilian hindbrain.

[007XX]

Likewise.

I therefore restrict my physical endeavours to things that do not require grace and skill, or getting all sweaty in the middle of a room packed with people at midnight, and tend to engage in social activities that require activation of something other than the reptilian hindbrain.

What is most annoying though, is when someone goes to "dancing places" (ie: ceroc or other) to really enjoy the dancing, and morons use it as a potential pick up place...

I'm not saying everyone attending is like that, and I'm not saying all women don't want someone to pick them up there, but lame pick up lines and aggressivity from guys (when they get turned down by someone who's obviously not interested) really ruins the enjoyment of what should be a pleasant dancing time.

[_Gina_]

...dance music clubs - are where people go to dance - drugs are optional - loads of people go along straight as a die and have a blast.

Zacchary. Nuff said really.

[saltydog]

No such thing as a nice guy angels, we are all lazy, selfish, arrogrant remote control hogging bastards. Don't waste your time looking, if you go looking you'll never find "Mr Right" (and not beacause there aren't any left). Now, where is that remote?

[Str8 Jacket]

No such thing as a nice guy angels, we are all lazy, selfish, arrogrant remote control hogging bastards. Don't waste your time looking, if you go looking you'll never find "Mr Right" (and not beacause there aren't any left). Now, where is that remote?

Thats funny cause thats what Im like ^^^^ and my man is the good one! :eek:

[merv]

Thats funny cause thats what Im like ^^^^ and my man is the good one! :eek:

So you trying to out bloke us blokes then Hels?

Hey you never thought I was arrogant eh?

[Str8 Jacket]

So you trying to out bloke us blokes then Hels?

Hey you never thought I was arrogant eh?

What do you mean TRY?!

Your many things Mr Merv but arrogant aint one of them!

[Meekey_Mouse]

If I'm going to go to a club (yes, only to dance have a good time with my mates) I make sure I have at least one male friend along. Some how other guys pick up he's with you and the groping/pick up lines etc decrease by about 90%! :banana:

[NotaGoth]

If I'm going to go to a club (yes, only to dance have a good time with my mates) I make sure I have at least one male friend along. Some how other guys pick up he's with you and the groping/pick up lines etc decrease by about 90%! :banana:


Up here, if they think a guy who is with you is your partner they usually then spend their night trying to pick fights with him. :shit:

[Meekey_Mouse]

Up here, if they think a guy who is with you is your partner they usually then spend their night trying to pick fights with him. :shit:

:blank: Some people are stupid

[NotaGoth]

:blank: Some people are stupid

I know.. I remember one new years I had a guy trying to have a fight with my dad for christs sake... :laugh:

[Little Miss Trouble]

^^^ bloody northland! best thing to do up there is take a big well-connected "name" family mate with you.

out clubbing I usually end up being the 'bitchy friend' who has to 'save' her friend from being groped lol if you've seen me you'd realise how funny that is!

Seriously though, whats up with coming up from behind a girl and grabbing her? is that supposed to turn me on or something? your bloody lucky if I dont swing at ya:bash:

[scracha]

Quit going to clubs to find 'relationship material' guys then. Everyone knows guys go 'clubbing' for one reason and one reason only.
I can think of 3.

1) To pop some 'E', dance like a clown and fall asleep.
2) To get seriously drunk, eat a kebab and start a fight.
3) To find some 'ho' and see if she'll drink baby gravy.

In all seriousness, (from my limited experience of clubs in this country) the clubs in New Zealand seem to all be of the meat market variety.

[Hanne]

If I'm going to go to a club (yes, only to dance have a good time with my mates) I make sure I have at least one male friend along. Some how other guys pick up he's with you and the groping/pick up lines etc decrease by about 90%! :banana:

Yes, I let my friends borrow Stephen when we are out too, and he has saved them many a time! Five 'no's, (two polite, with 'thankyou's) one 'I've got a boyfriend' and then two 'moving into the middle of a circle of friends' later, and this one guy just wouldn't leave! That was quite annoying.

[James Deuce]

Yes, I let my friends borrow Stephen when we are out too, and he has saved them many a time! Five 'no's, (two polite, with 'thankyou's) one 'I've got a boyfriend' and then two 'moving into the middle of a circle of friends' later, and this one guy just wouldn't leave! That was quite annoying.

That's when you stop pissing about and kick them in the nuts.

[Str8 Jacket]

That's when you stop pissing about and kick them in the nuts.

Yep, always worked for me when I lived in Rotovegas! :innocent:

[Patch]

The reason why all there are so many assholes out there, is because Crasherfromwayback keeps selling so many Wanker inducing Harleys.

Harley = Wanker
Wanker = 'Hurry up, someone kick me in the head quick!'


What the hell are you on?????:blink:

This should be good :corn:




SD :spanking: PA

[Pex Adams]

This should be good :corn:




SD :spanking: PA

It died before it even started... Maybe I hurt his feelings - Nah! he's a Harley rider, he doesn't have any of them.:whistle::whistle::whistle:

[SHELRACING]

Well I go out on occasion with my daughter,( who has two kids) and guess what, we get asked if we are sisters.

We do have a bit of fun though, at the moron's expense of course.
Once they realise they are the brunt of the joke, they usually piss off quick.

Another one that works is "I'm with her", pointing to your mate. Just make sure your mate is in on it too. Works REAL well.

[KATWYN]

a**hole number #2::bash:
a guy actually used, no joke a pick up line along the lines of 'how about we go back to my place and do the things im going to tell everyone we did anyway' when i fake laughed and politely turned him down he apologised and said he just assumed i was yet another 'aussie skank' that had 'a thing' for maoris so he wanted to try his luck :S:S



Big mistake. Acknowledging this guy's existance by A/ listening to the point that he was able to finish his sleazy sentance, and B/ by actually answering him - and in a polite way (he had just been extremely unpolite to you!! )

At this point you had just fed his arrogance.

In future walk away, as soon as a guy like that opens his gob - leave him standing/sitting there like a stale bottle of veno

[SwanTiger]

what is with the increase in a**holes? or is it just me thats noticing? in which case where on earth did all the nice guys go!!!

You are quite an attractive woman, so naturally the majority of males with healthy moral fibre will not approach you without some sort of introduction by a mutual party. I'm probably an arsehole, however I consider myself a decent person, and based on my observations, most times when I approach an attractive female she is very abrasive. If I organise an introduction, it's always a success story.

[alley cat]

[QUOTE=scracha;1282226]I can think of 3.

1) To pop some 'E', dance like a clown and fall asleep.
2) To get seriously drunk, eat a kebab and start a fight.
3) To find some 'ho' and see if she'll drink baby gravy.

Oh god 'drink baby gravy'. You must be a cassanova!

[merv]

I don't know about the population of arrogant men increasing so what are you telling me, should I practice being arrogant to keep up with the crowd (seeing its not in my nature)? One thing's for sure as I've got older I've definitely been increasing - in weight that is - damn the diet starts every Monday.

Where's that thread about shrinking leather?

[Qkkid]

You...what!!?? Why is the partner always the last to know?
*stomps off to 'fix' your bike*

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: You better do a good job too bucko:bleh:

[Deano]

It took a while, but I'm taken sorry.

[Bass]

The proportion of arrogant men appears to be increasing because that's exactly what is happening. It has to do with the way our society is changing.
The really sad thing is that it's not just the men.

[Usarka]

kiwi guys learn that unless theyre smarmy and/or rich then kiwi women dont talk to them when approached. so the women then end up only being approached by arrogant guys, guys pretending to be arrogant, metrosexuals, or guys that have become arseholes because they've learnt thats their place.

Bitter? yes please, one pint.

[mstriumph]

first off happy birthday for yesterday


second .. there are no decent men left .. they been all taken by bytches :lol: ohhhhhhhh so THAT's why i ended up with one :shifty:




.... never thought of meself as a 'bytch' :love:
*straightens shoulders - walks away proud.....*

[Grahameeboy]

kiwi guys learn that unless theyre smarmy and/or rich then kiwi women dont talk to them when approached. so the women then end up only being approached by arrogant guys, guys pretending to be arrogant, metrosexuals, or guys that have become arseholes because they've learnt thats their place.

Bitter? yes please, one pint.

Note to self..............must stop agreeing........................

[mstriumph]

That shit done in 'clubs' ain't dancing. It's random jumping about.

......... and this post is jrandom jumping about :whistle:

[Morcs]

I reckon it's directly proportional to the number of arrogant women quite frankly.

You know, the ones that try to exclude men and then shout bloody murder when men try to exclude women.


Too true.

Bling sent.

[homer]

whats wrong with you girls all you have to do is talk to us guys
yeah you ll meat all the nasty arogant type cause you wont make conversation .....if im wrong fine maybe just mixed signals but just say hi
dont you think it works both ways if you think someones arogant maybe it the messages they get from you

[Toaster]

There are some humble and good men left I am sure.

[James Deuce]

I'm taken AND an arrogant cock.

[Pancakes]

Marketing.

Girls were made to feel crap by male dominated society and compensated with makeup and crazy tricks to look hot all the time. Then PC came and still no-ones equal but the gap has closed and changed. Girls still have makeup and "chicken fillets" etc to cheat with.

Companies made lots of money. Realised only half the planet was buying their stuff and also that guys were secretly moisturising etc to look hot and get sex. What guys won't do for a root. Anyway, we are now at the point where man-care products are well accepted and the ones that can afford to use them and actually love themselves enough to do so are normally overconfident egotists in the first place. Now they've spent so much they KNOW their hot and strut around being dicks to women everywhere.

Man I write some crap sometimes but It's kinda true (ish).

Most nice guys aren't so full of themselves that they think they could go and talk to a real hottie (who is probably quite average without fake tan, makeup, hair colour and straightener, wonderbra AND chicken fillets (cheater) heels etc)

SO instead of waiting for assholes to talk to you go and introduce yourself to some nice guys and see if you get on.

I never asked a girl out intill my wife. I always had someone and normally hot girlfriends but they asked me. Don't know what girls would see in me really except I'm cheeky? When I met my wife we were mates for ages and it got to the point where it was worth messing up a good friendship just to find out what she thought. Now all is awesome, I'm broke and she has nice shoes but thats another ramble.

[*MissNey*]

wow ok, have not been on here in a while as I went on a holiday to aussie zoo, then moved house. didnt think id come back to find my topic had turned into a debate haha

[Grunta]

Just read the first post in this thread, cant be fucked reading the rest.

It occurs to me that you should all HARDEN THE FUCK UP!!!

[Griff]

The proportion of arrogant men appears to be increasing because that's exactly what is happening. It has to do with the way our society is changing.
The really sad thing is that it's not just the men.

Ladies, ladies, ladies.....


"The proportion of arrogant men appears to be increasing...."

Please don't worry your pretty little heads with such nonsense.

Be happy.:calm::calm:

[SwanTiger]

wow ok, have not been on here in a while as I went on a holiday to aussie zoo, then moved house. didnt think id come back to find my topic had turned into a debate haha

So do you want a root or what?

:lol::jerry:

[fredie]

ok lets see . you spent hours dolling yourself up for the night out . too a meatmarket nightclub. seeking attention ,like always . then when guys show you attention. ohh your in one your moods . please give us a break:bash::zzzz:

[terbang]

Well they're all bitches.. (except for Goblin, she's cool)

[The Pastor]

If anyone finds a nice girl, let me know.


Mother told me, yes, she told me I'd meet girls like you.
She also told me, "Stay away, you'll never know what you'll catch."

[Zuki Bandit]

Why does the population of arrogant men seem to be increasing?

Because the population of nagging women is growing!!!

[maxworldbiker]

Mother told me, yes, she told me I'd meet girls like you.
She also told me, "Stay away, you'll never know what you'll catch."

Yeah! Lets hear it for Cheap Trick! (eek! Am I showing my age???)

From a post from a woman very clearly adressed to other women, there sure seems to be a lot of misplaced testosterone in this thread!!!

There ARE nice men out there. I've met very many. I have one (well, sometimes he conjurs up visions of me cheerfully wrapping his bike chain around his head and walking away smiling with nothing on my conscience - but not often, and I'm sure it goes both ways, although I'd be faster with his chain than he'd be with my drive belt! LOL!) and I've always thought that clubs are only good for helping you to figure out what you soooo DON'T want. The helpful observations made here by both men and women that the club prowlers do it for reasons you wouldn't want anything to do with, are probably on the button, but you've figured that out anyway. As to what you can do to have fun in those places without being mauled or abused by no-brainers, "f**k off, c**t" always worked pretty well for me.

Seems to me like there are some pretty nice blokes on this forum, and they can't ALL be taken, can they? Just like all the lovely women in here can't all be spoken for, either, but no moniker gives much of a clue as to what's going on in anyones' life. Saying that, tho, SOME men you meet on forums, the ones that howl with indignation after (arrogantly perhaps?) assuming themselves to be part of a generalized experience (very telling!), and for whatever reason feel the need to wade univited into a women's discussion, to defend themselves and proceed to tell you how stupid you are and how irrelevant your observations and experiences are because they don't agree or empathise with them... well, they're not the type of guy you'd want either, are they? BARGEPOLE!!!!!!!!!!! On the basis of THAT, yeah! You're telling ME some men are arrogant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Keep the faith. And don't be swayed by the covert messages in here from loose canons who take offence about a discussion they weren't even invited to join in the first place. You DO have the right to voice your disappointment and frustration at being treated without respect. The fact that a few touchy fools seem to think its ok for them to come on in here uninvited, tear you down for it, and thereby do exactly the same thing to you, says a bit more about them than it does about you! A man doesn't have to be a complete wimp to have respect for a woman, or for her right to have her experiences acknowledged as valid and real to her. Any bloke who can't offer something a bit better than "harden up" is best left alone.

Other forums have women's discussion rooms as exclusively female, with men able to observe if they really must, but not permitted to take part. Maybe a safe harbour along those same lines is what's needed here. If not, then we could always re-head this discussion up as "tampon absorbency" and that might work:laugh:.

[maxworldbiker]

Why does the population of arrogant men seem to be increasing?

Because the population of nagging women is growing!!!

By the way, Zook, women only nag because they don't feel heard. The solution is painelss, and it doesn't make you a wimp or any less of a vine-swinging macho. Just let them know you hear them. Do that, and the nagging usually stops. If it doesn't, its because there's something else going on, and if you're interested enough to ask what THAT is, and listen to what's being said, the brownie points for that tend to cancel out the nagging too. Nagging is a cry for assistance.

On the whole.

One more hint... when you wanna crash on into a girls' discussion, take what you get on the chin and be nice. You might be surprised how far it takes ya...

[CBR97]

I like women,
my mum is one:sunny:
id like to meet one and settle down and ride off into the sunset oneday:Punk:

but until that day comes, i will save myself:innocent:

so not all men are barstards, we just look that way:done:

love and peace xxxxxxxxxx00000xxxxxx

[JimO]

im happily married but a mate has recently been through the meat market thing when his wife buggered off with one of his mates to "find herself" whatever that means and now has a verry nice asian girlfriend because he reckons kiwi girls are all slappers

[2wheeldrifter]

Seems to me like there are some pretty nice blokes on this forum, and they can't ALL be taken, can they?

Nope, I :Playnice:

[J_P]

topic for the GIRLS, i repeat the GIRLS (just incase you guys missed it the first time:P)

Hmmm.... a fairly shyte start to a topic. Last I checked, this place was an open forum.



From a post from a woman very clearly adressed to other women, there sure seems to be a lot of misplaced testosterone in this thread!!!...
...As to what you can do to have fun in those places without being mauled or abused by no-brainers, "f**k off, c**t" always worked pretty well for me.

Something else to think about... If tables were turned and a women started hitting on a bloke at a bar and the response was "f**k off, c*nt". How well would that go down with her, her friends and the blokes friends? He would be correctly seen as an arrogant prick, right? and he might even get a slap.



Seems to me like there are some pretty nice blokes on this forum, and they can't ALL be taken, can they? ... Saying that, tho, SOME men you meet on forums, the ones that howl with indignation after (arrogantly perhaps?) assuming themselves to be part of a generalized experience (very telling!), and for whatever reason feel the need to wade univited into a women's discussion, to defend themselves and proceed to tell you how stupid you are and how irrelevant your observations and experiences are because they don't agree or empathise with them... well, they're not the type of guy you'd want either, are they? BARGEPOLE!!!!!!!!!!! On the basis of THAT, yeah! You're telling ME some men are arrogant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... The fact that a few touchy fools seem to think its ok for them to come on in here uninvited, tear you down for it, and thereby do exactly the same thing to you, says a bit more about them than it does about you! A man doesn't have to be a complete wimp to have respect for a woman, or for her right to have her experiences acknowledged as valid and real to her. Any bloke who can't offer something a bit better than "harden up" is best left alone.

Yes some men are arrogant and some women are arrogant *ahem*, but they are all free to express their opinion.



...Other forums have women's discussion rooms as exclusively female, with men able to observe if they really must, but not permitted to take part. Maybe a safe harbour along those same lines is what's needed here. If not, then we could always re-head this discussion up as "tampon absorbency" and that might work:laugh:.

Piss off back to your other forums then. :calm: I have never seen a thread on KB labeled as a topic for guys only. This place has not been that sort of forum. From my experience this place is a community with mutual discusion from both males and females which often results in good fun debate. If you girls want to have a bytch session, do it elsewhere. If you are open to public discusion, then I welcome your threads. :2thumbsup

[Subike]

I would like to voice my bit
First , you will never find nice guys, honest guys or the true men in clubs or pubs.
The scene is for the loose units of both sexes, the Meat Market of society.
So what is a nice guy,
The guy that is consistant in what he does?
Defends your honour in conversations
Will happily spend time with you in conversation with your mother?
Is content with one or two holidays a year, because of the budjet?
Will always listen to you when you are feeling down and grumpy?
Looses at golf when you play, even though he has a lower handicap?
Is willing to supress the urge to ride hard with the boys, because you dont want to?
He will sit and face you when you talk, even if it is whilst his favorite TV programme is on.
Will bring you flowers from the garden he has grown for no other reason than he can.

Are these some of the things you think a Nice Guy should do?

Bugger, than if so, where is an HONEST woman!
Three strikes, and alone again.
Nice guys get hurt inside because they are nice.

You get to the stage where being nice is no longer fun, being hard, arrogant,dirty,agressive ......is safe.

Sorry ladies, Im still Angry with some women

[alan_w]

[QUOTE=2wheeldrifter;1338543]Seems to me like there are some pretty nice blokes on this forum, and they can't ALL be taken, can they?

Look for me on a blue SV round Banks Peninsula or parked up in Arthur's Pass...:msn-wink:

[Steam]

Hmmm.... a fairly shyte start to a topic. Last I checked, this place was an open forum.

Piss off back to your other forums then. I have never seen a thread on KB labeled as a topic for guys only. This place has not been that sort of forum. From my experience this place is a community with mutual discusion from both males and females which often results in good fun debate. If you girls want to have a bytch session, do it elsewhere. If you are open to public discusion, then I welcome your threads. :2thumbsup

Take some of your own advice and piss off J P, leave the Angels alone.
This is the intent of the Biker Angels forum, as set down by the moderators:

"The Biker Angels forum is here for women to discuss genuine issues or share experiences with other females in a friendly environment. Blokes are welcome to post in here, BUT any offensive or overtly sexual posts causing degeneration of threads will be deleted or sent to pointless drivel where you can carry it on to your hearts content."

This sub-forum isn't designed specially for you, it's designed specifically "for women to discuss genuine issues or share experiences with other females"

[James Deuce]

This sub-forum isn't designed specially for you, it's designed specifically "for women to discuss genuine issues or share experiences with other females"

Which actually breaks NZ anti-discrimination laws AND the Bill of Rights. But chicks can do anything in NZ including open Gyms based on a gender discrimination premise.

[Usarka]

Which actually breaks NZ anti-discrimination laws AND the Bill of Rights. But chicks can do anything in NZ including open Gyms based on a gender discrimination premise.

at the same time demanding to be treated with equality....

[Subike]

Is an insult to those who try to have a real conversation about a subject,
Yet in doing so the thread jackers comfirm completely the topic of this thread.
The increase of arrogant men.
Looks like a few pretty boys have had their noses twisted, Tuff.

Girls you are so right, Us men can be arrogant selfish pricks lead by our demented view of self grandure, raising our brainless heads to what ever occasion our egos find insults our sudo superiour little boy contained inside a jacket of muscle and bone with no real emotions. Go ride your bike!

I so often see the "I am better" mask being worn by men,
No wonder we as men spend so much time trying to understand women.
Its something Men can never do.
I have tried myself for the past 50 years to do so and are no closer to understanding how a woman thinks.

[CBR97]

Is an insult to those who try to have a real conversation about a subject,
Yet in doing so the thread jackers comfirm completely the topic of this thread.
The increase of arrogant men.
Looks like a few pretty boys have had their noses twisted, Tuff.

Girls you are so right, Us men can be arrogant selfish pricks lead by our demented view of self grandure, raising our brainless heads to what ever occasion our egos find insults our sudo superiour little boy contained inside a jacket of muscle and bone with no real emotions. Go ride your bike!

I so often see the "I am better" mask being worn by men,
No wonder we as men spend so much time trying to understand women.
Its something Men can never do.
I have tried myself for the past 50 years to do so and are no closer to understanding how a woman thinks.

its taken you 50 yrs, i stopped trying when i was about 18, ,:doh:

as i said before , i like women, my mum is one,

:niceone:

[cindymay]

wot can I say?

I love nice men but the chance of bumping into one in a pub is unlikely.

[Bullitt]

wot can I say?

I love nice men but the chance of bumping into one in a pub is unlikely.

You're right...I dont go to the pub very often:lol:

[GIXser]

topic for the GIRLS, i repeat the GIRLS (just incase you guys missed it the first time:P)


is it just me or do 'nice guys' seem to be disappearing at a fast rate? i went out to celebrate my birthday last night, and it because it was a girls night i just pretended that i wasnt single as I just wanted to spend time with my mates.

a**hole number #1::2guns:
although he was really sleazy i was just trying to let him down gently because well, im not a bitch. so when he asked if i was single and i lied and said no, he went off at me saying i 'led him on' (this was two minutes into the conversation by the way) and that if im not single why am i even out clubbing? he wasnt too amused when i said my bf decided to let me off the chain tonight

a**hole number #2::bash:
a guy actually used, no joke a pick up line along the lines of 'how about we go back to my place and do the things im going to tell everyone we did anyway' when i fake laughed and politely turned him down he apologised and said he just assumed i was yet another 'aussie skank' that had 'a thing' for maoris so he wanted to try his luck :S:S


last but not least
a**hole number #3::angry2:
he tried to pick up my mate, they kind of knew eachother so when she declined (GIRLS NIGHT HELLO) he went around spreading crap about how she sleeps around etc



what is with the increase in a**holes? or is it just me thats noticing? in which case where on earth did all the nice guys go!!!

How come you were out... and not in the kitchen??!!!??

[cowpoos]

wot can I say?

I love nice men but the chance of bumping into one in a pub is unlikely.
I'll let you know my pub schedule... ;)

[Coyote]

Assholes tend to get noticed. That's why there appears to be so many gangstas around. The nice guys are generally the quiet ones that are ignored. Like me!

Stop calling all guys arrogant, it's bitchy. You all get in tears when we over generalise and call all girls bitches.

[Livvy]

How come you were out... and not in the kitchen??!!!??

And you're proving the point of this forum topic. Honestly, I hope you haven't a girlfriend because if that's genuinely your thoughts on women, and you're not just joking, that's pretty sad. We don't deserve to be treated as your damn servants. Last time a guy made a crack like that at me I started yelling at him in public with my two other female mates laughing at him.


Assholes tend to get noticed. That's why there appears to be so many gangstas around. The nice guys are generally the quiet ones that are ignored. Like me!

Stop calling all guys arrogant, it's bitchy. You all get in tears when we over generalise and call all girls bitches.

That is a good point none the less. But I do agree - assholes tend to get noticed and I think there are more of them. I don't believe people are being raised with the same values as the previous generation. Look around - fifteen-year-olds becoming parents, dropping out of school, not respecting their families or even themselves. There are wonderful guys out there, I've met a number, but I've told three times that number to get the heck out of my life before they loose theirs. She wasn't calling all guys arrogant though, so that last sentence is unfair.

[jrandom]

Last time a guy made a crack like that at me I started yelling at him in public...

Awesome.


assholes

This thread is now officially on notice. Trust me when I say, you do not want to raise the ire of the BDOTGNZA's... Enforcement Division.

:crazy:


There are wonderful guys out there, I've met a number, but I've told three times that number to get the heck out of my life before they loose theirs.

Nothing wrong with getting a little loose now and then.

...

Assuming, though, that you meant 'lose', I take it that your general experience has been that a quarter of the males you meet are wonderful, but that you regularly threaten the remaining 75% with death?

That's a criminal offense, you know.

Also, you should probably post a picture of yourself. You need to prove that you're hot before any guy reading this thread will take your comments seriously.

(If we don't want to shag you, your opinion doesn't matter, you see.)

:)

No, really.

[u4ea]

Which actually breaks NZ anti-discrimination laws AND the Bill of Rights. But chicks can do anything in NZ including open Gyms based on a gender discrimination premise.

I don't think much of equality.Not when theres lawns to be mowed and tyres to be changed and rooves to be painted and trees to be chainsawed..have to agree that some things have just gone too far.:angry2:

[jrandom]

... chicks can do anything in NZ including open Gyms based on a gender discrimination premise.

Too fuckin' right, cobber.

In fact, this is a pet hate of mine.

Fucking women cluttering up my gym. They're always bloody minging around the free weights floor playing with 2.5kg dumbbells when I want to set up for deadlifts, or taking up the incline bench under the watchful eye of their wizened, ponytailed, over-tanned personal trainer while they do something incomprehensible involving balancing a swiss ball on their nose, or just generally being annoying and non-focused individuals in a place that should be all about very loud heavy metal music and grunting noises.

But.

If I tried to open a men-only gym, what would happen?

A. Everyone would assume it was for homosexuals, rather than men who wanted to focus on their training instead of their sexuality for a measly hour or two. And believe me, training at your average co-ed gym gets one focusing on non-training matters far more than is optimal.

B. Someone would take me to court for discriminating against women. And I'd be sentenced to death by nagging.

She's a hard life being a white middle-class male in twenty-first-century New Zealand.

:no:

...

God I love a good late-night rant.

:D

[jazbug5]

And you're proving the point of this forum topic. Honestly, I hope you haven't a girlfriend because if that's genuinely your thoughts on women, and you're not just joking, that's pretty sad...

Aw, bless. I think you'll find he may have been attempting to wind the girlies up. I bet he never dreamed he'd get a bite; you've probably made his week..!

[justsomeguy]

Too fuckin' right, cobber.

In fact, this is a pet hate of mine.

Fucking women cluttering up my gym. They're always bloody minging around the free weights floor playing with 2.5kg dumbbells when I want to set up for deadlifts, or taking up the incline bench under the watchful eye of their wizened, ponytailed, over-tanned personal trainer while they do something incomprehensible involving balancing a swiss ball on their nose, or just generally being annoying and non-focused individuals in a place that should be all about very loud heavy metal music and grunting noises.

But.

If I tried to open a men-only gym, what would happen?

A. Everyone would assume it was for homosexuals, rather than men who wanted to focus on their training instead of their sexuality for a measly hour or two. And believe me, training at your average co-ed gym gets one focusing on non-training matters far more than is optimal.

B. Someone would take me to court for discriminating against women. And I'd be sentenced to death by nagging.

She's a hard life being a white middle-class male in twenty-first-century New Zealand.

:no:

...

God I love a good late-night rant.

:D

You need a new gym, unless you choose to go to those posh places reserved for people with more money than sense.

If East try East Tamaki Health and Fitness.

Central - Jordan's Sport and Rec

City - Clive Greens

Oh and tough guy - go and stand next to the female thing and the hired libido booster (Personal Trainer) and ask them if you can use the machine/weight area. PT's have the same right to using the gym as you.

Some of them like to think otherwise, but they can go fuck themselves.

Been to many, many gyms there and other parts of the world, never had an issue with the above.... but then I choose the strength and bodybuilding gyms... if you tell me you go to Bodytech then....... :shutup:......:killingme
-----------

As for this thread question - don't women like bastards who slap them around and treat them like shit???:shit:

Cos they sure don't seem to like nice guys.........:yawn:

[jazbug5]

Too fuckin' right, cobber.

In fact, this is a pet hate of mine.

Fucking women cluttering up my gym. They're always bloody minging around the free weights floor playing with 2.5kg dumbbells when I want to set up for deadlifts, or taking up the incline bench under the watchful eye of their wizened, ponytailed, over-tanned personal trainer while they do something incomprehensible involving balancing a swiss ball on their nose, or just generally being annoying and non-focused individuals in a place that should be all about very loud heavy metal music and grunting noises.

But.

If I tried to open a men-only gym, what would happen?

A. Everyone would assume it was for homosexuals, rather than men who wanted to focus on their training instead of their sexuality for a measly hour or two. And believe me, training at your average co-ed gym gets one focusing on non-training matters far more than is optimal.

B. Someone would take me to court for discriminating against women. And I'd be sentenced to death by nagging.

She's a hard life being a white middle-class male in twenty-first-century New Zealand.

:no:

...

God I love a good late-night rant.

:D

Oh, Dan. You're going to all the wrong places. If you want a nice, stuffy, sweaty place where you can grunt away to your heart's content without being assailed by the 'personal trainer, nip n' tuck' mob, you have to spend less money. Far less money.

The upmarket places are all about people focusing on their sexuality rather than their training- hence the lycra, mirrors and floor to ceiling windows.

Personally, I love it when I get some yuppy standing there giving me the evils when I'm using 'his' machine. It's very motivating, and I tend to find it leads to lots and lots of extra reps.

[White trash]

Just read the first post in this thread, cant be fucked reading the rest.

It occurs to me that you should all HARDEN THE FUCK UP!!!
You start posting after all these years and choose the Girly forum to make your grand entrance?

I think you need to grow some balls my friend.

[jrandom]

You need a new gym, unless you choose to go to those posh places reserved for people with more money than sense.

I train here (http://www.justworkout.co.nz/index.htm).

:o

It's one block away from home. How can I not? I live in Devonport. Commuting to work is bad enough without having to commute to a gym too.

At least I make up for it by training at the Lynfield YMCA with BarBender every Sunday morning now.

*GRUNT*

:2thumbsup


Cos they sure don't seem to like nice guys.........:yawn:

Oh, I dunno... seems to work for me?

:confused:

[jrandom]

Oh, Dan. You're going to all the wrong places. If you want a nice, stuffy, sweaty place where you can grunt away to your heart's content without being assailed by the 'personal trainer, nip n' tuck' mob, you have to spend less money. Far less money.

Not while living in Gayport. Not once you consider the amount of time and petrol I'd have to burn to get to anywhere like what you describe.


Personally, I love it when I get some yuppy standing there giving me the evils when I'm using 'his' machine. It's very motivating, and I tend to find it leads to lots and lots of extra reps.

You are a Bad Woman.

:D

[Coyote]

That is a good point none the less. But I do agree - assholes tend to get noticed and I think there are more of them. I don't believe people are being raised with the same values as the previous generation. Look around - fifteen-year-olds becoming parents, dropping out of school, not respecting their families or even themselves. There are wonderful guys out there, I've met a number, but I've told three times that number to get the heck out of my life before they loose theirs. She wasn't calling all guys arrogant though, so that last sentence is unfair.
The more arseholes out there the better it makes me look :p

I've seen a lot of that just going through school. I'm glad I didn't fall into any of it, except not respecting myself since I was raised to be humble to the point where at didn't think anything good of myself and getting cheated on and getting severe acne tipped me over the edge.

I'd be much happier if I was more arrogant.

[cowpoos]

Just read the first post in this thread, cant be fucked reading the rest.

It occurs to me that you should all HARDEN THE FUCK UP!!!

**said in a poofters tone of voice???**

[merv]

How arrogant can that Grunta guy be telling us he's from Auckland riding a gay colour schemed Suzuki but his profile says he has Buell and he's in Welly? Do we want Welly's name tarnished by such people coz we don't want no arrogance down here?

[cowpoos]

How arrogant can that Grunta guy be telling us he's from Auckland riding a gay colour schemed Suzuki but his profile says he has Buell and he's in Welly? Do we want Welly's name tarnished by such people coz we don't want no arrogance down here?
Nah Grunta's fricken cool cat...why if I were gay I'ld probally #$@*^@#*$(%*@#*$$(@*$ his #@#)*#&@##! and !@#%$%@* , He's a good looking man that Grunta!!!

[cowpoos]

But.

If I tried to open a men-only gym, what would happen?



B. Someone would take me to court for discriminating against women. And I'd be sentenced to death by nagging.


...

God I love a good late-night rant.

:D
open one for Maori's,indian,Islander,ekimo...men...and you'll be sweet!!


She's a hard life being a white middle-class male in twenty-first-century New Zealand.



worse to be a single white male...[remember...because we don't have families,they take give our taxes to family's that probally have higher house hold income than us and give it to them as 'working for family's' because they are shit with money...for them to waste on another Hire purchase on a stupid jet ski or some shit!!]

[Coyote]

worse to be a single white male...[remember...because we don't have families,they take give our taxes to family's that probally have higher house hold income than us and give it to them as 'working for family's' because they are shit with money...for them to waste on another Hire purchase on a stupid jet ski or some shit!!]
We don't seem to be getting a cent. I want a jetski :(

[Subike]

being a single white male over the age of 50, with no assets, is probably the worst postion to be in.
let alone, that if you have no family, no children, a minimum income, high rents and you spare cash has been erroded away by price hikes across the board.
It makes no difference how nice a guy you, how caring you are, how polite, honest or even productive in communitie projects you are
You world is just crap.
No oppotunites to meet people, because your lucky to have food on the table
The only place you might get good converastion is your local tavern once a week
Forget about having the possibility of a relationship with a decent women, how would that be possiblie?

So MR Nice Guy, the one thats not arrogant becomes angry with life, lives with little hope that anything in the future is going to be worth anything at all. Even winning lotto is a far away dream

So the end is a bottle of wine once a week to drown your sorrows and a bed under the nearst bridge, wrapped up in newspapers to keep warm.

Get a job and A life. you might say

Really?

There is a minority of White Males in this country who are unable to do that.Why? Because their lives have been manipulated, wrung out, their dreams smashed, businesses shattered, assets cut up and squandered.
At 50+ some dont have that courage to carry on?
Any woman you now meet, will be met with arrogance, suspission, dis trust all sorts of negative emotions....because you have been burnt
Yes the population of arrogant men is increasing, especially in the mid aged White Male group.
No ethnic community , no personal power, no respect ( they are dirty old men)
They will never see this sort of post on a website as they never get to see a computor, let alone know how to use one

There are a lot of emotionally poor people in NZ that are getting trod on, abused and plain fucked up by the greed of others, including spiritually enlightend new age women.
No disrespect to you girls on this site, 99% of you are higher calliber, qaulity gals......but there is a world out there that treats White Males over 50 as shit

[Livvy]

Assuming, though, that you meant 'lose', I take it that your general experience has been that a quarter of the males you meet are wonderful, but that you regularly threaten the remaining 75% with death?

That's a criminal offense, you know.

Also, you should probably post a picture of yourself. You need to prove that you're hot before any guy reading this thread will take your comments seriously.

Oh no, I never threaten outright. Actually I hardly ever threaten! I just tell them that I think the world would be better off without them, and such a blow to their oversized egos has the general result of them crawling away into the sewers again. :) I'm too cute to be truly threatening.

And no, no photo, you'll just have to believe me that I'm attractive and take my comments seriously for lack of proof that I'm not unattractive. And won't that be fun? :P


Aw, bless. I think you'll find he may have been attempting to wind the girlies up. I bet he never dreamed he'd get a bite; you've probably made his week..!

I know, I took the risk of it! But if it's made his week it doesn't say that much for his IQ, don't ya think? ;)


The more arseholes out there the better it makes me look :p

I've seen a lot of that just going through school. I'm glad I didn't fall into any of it, except not respecting myself since I was raised to be humble to the point where at didn't think anything good of myself and getting cheated on and getting severe acne tipped me over the edge.

I'd be much happier if I was more arrogant.

Yeah that's one extreme, but you can have self-esteem and not be considered arrogant. Don't become arrogant, because you'll be no better off for it I reckon. Smile, that's the best advice I've given to my guy friends who can't get chicks!


There are a lot of emotionally poor people in NZ that are getting trod on, abused and plain fucked up by the greed of others, including spiritually enlightend new age women.
No disrespect to you girls on this site, 99% of you are higher calliber, qaulity gals......but there is a world out there that treats White Males over 50 as shit

Unfortunately, the world, at some point, will treat everyone as crap... You've highlighted a majority, but it still stands that even simply by being white, there is - if not in NZ, but in places such as America - more trust for them than a darker skinned person.
But yeah, there are some women who are screwed up and who in turn screw men up, I know of enough, but it's not just guys who get affected, girls get mistreated too, and that's some of the point here I think? But yeah, guys are viewed in society as having to be big and tough and unemotional even in this "spiritually enlightened new age" and that isn't fair.

[cowpoos]

I know, I took the risk of it! But if it's made his week it doesn't say that much for his IQ, don't ya think? ;)
.

ya wanna know whats funny about your statment...mr GIXser is a member of MENSA....he is also a part time male model....Sucessful bussiness man....happily married to a gorgeous wife....and a very quick superbike rider.:lol:

Sorry to ruin your presumptions!! :blank:

and why are you not out riding on this awesome hamilton day??

[kiwifruit]

happily married

:(

*sniffle*

[Katman]

Nice guys don't get laid.




Yes they do. Well - until they get married anyway.:msn-wink:

[Coyote]

Yeah that's one extreme, but you can have self-esteem and not be considered arrogant. Don't become arrogant, because you'll be no better off for it I reckon. Smile, that's the best advice I've given to my guy friends who can't get chicks!

Gosh darn, I don't get to be arrogant. Bah!


Didn't realise you were 16 (having just looked at your KB profile). I kinda automatically assume the ladies on here that type legibly are 30+ :blink:

[Livvy]

ya wanna know whats funny about your statment...mr GIXser is a member of MENSA....he is also a part time male model....Sucessful bussiness man....happily married to a gorgeous wife....and a very quick superbike rider.:lol:

Sorry to ruin your presumptions!! :blank:

and why are you not out riding on this awesome hamilton day??

Haha, yeah yeah, okay, I don't know so I'll continue to assume he's got a small attention span. :p Whatever. And I'm not out riding because I can do that whenever I want, I'm on holiday for the next two months...


Gosh darn, I don't get to be arrogant. Bah!


Didn't realise you were 16 (having just looked at your KB profile). I kinda automatically assume the ladies on here that type legibly are 30+ :blink:

... Because, Cowpoos, I'm 16 and still at High School and we're on summer break!

And no Coyote, you get to continue being charming to show up those who are arrogant!

And sorry for being legible, sheesh, wld u prfr it if i wrot lyk dis? :bleh:

(I'd have to kill myself first.)

[R1madness]

From a guys point of view...........
Guys are sick of the crap we get dished out on a daily basis. We get beaten down at every oppertunity by the feminist crap dished out on TV thru advertising and the general media. We are portrayed as slack jawed, lazy and in need of a "good woman" to tell us how to live our lives. Apparently we are so stupid we cant use a washing machine properly. Boys are discouraged from following boys traditions (like climbing trees) and schooling is generally aimed at girls.

No wonder us guys are turning into wankers. We just cant be bothered with the shit any more. Time for the guys to have a bit of a revolution i think. Next time the misses tries using sex (or the lack of it) for leverage try cutting off the money. See how that goes down. She will want your credit card soon enough. Hold out a couple more weeks and try the old "what about my wants and needs" thing before you hand over the $$$$$$.

Crap pick up lines do work. We use them to see who is worth talking to. If you are a stuck up bitch you will tell us to fuck off (easy to tell your not going to get a root here) but if you have a sence of humor you might have a laugh and invite us to join you (maybe a chance).

[Coyote]

And no Coyote, you get to continue being charming to show up those who are arrogant!

And sorry for being legible, sheesh, wld u prfr it if i wrot lyk dis? :bleh:

(I'd have to kill myself first.)
werd up hom gurl,, ttlly kewl 2 dA maXx,,, holla atcha boiz

shudder....

From a guys point of view...........
Guys are sick of the crap we get dished out on a daily basis. We get beaten down at every oppertunity by the feminist crap dished out on TV thru advertising and the general media. We are portrayed as slack jawed, lazy and in need of a "good woman" to tell us how to live our lives. Apparently we are so stupid we cant use a washing machine properly. Boys are discouraged from following boys traditions (like climbing trees) and schooling is generally aimed at girls.

No wonder us guys are turning into wankers. We just cant be bothered with the shit any more. Time for the guys to have a bit of a revolution i think. Next time the misses tries using sex (or the lack of it) for leverage try cutting off the money. See how that goes down. She will want your credit card soon enough. Hold out a couple more weeks and try the old "what about my wants and needs" thing before you hand over the $$$$$$.

Crap pick up lines do work. We use them to see who is worth talking to. If you are a stuck up bitch you will tell us to fuck off (easy to tell your not going to get a root here) but if you have a sence of humor you might have a laugh and invite us to join you (maybe a chance).
Agree with you there. However, cutting off the money is just going to get them looking elsewhere, like not feeding a cat. Of course, that's the type of lady you shouldn't give a damn about and she should bugger off. Assuming their pesonality is shit as women that are only interested in your money tend to be, if all you want is a ride there's plenty of loose girls in bars willing to put out for free.

Guys turning into wankers... nice pun

I don't bother with girls that are swayed with crap pick up lines, chances are just saying 'wanna fuck?' would've got them.

[jonbuoy]

Imagine every time you went out to the pub you got hit on constantly, nice for a while but would get on your nerves if you just wanted to watch the rugby with your mates and have a few beers. With date rape drink spiking you can't blame them for being a bit defensive. Don't take it personally.

[Number One]

I must be getting old, cos I'd tend to agree...

But now, I prefer a good BBQ on the deck in summer with a good bunch of mates and some witty repartee...

I guess a lot of young people have to go through that stage...:eek: Gawd, I sound like my mother :thud:

Amen to BBQ's with good friends and intelligent conversation! But damn I definately did my younger years wrong! I've always hated clubbing, I wasn't as big a drinker as my mates were so I was always clean up and rescue patrol :yawn: which you don't always get thanked for...even when you are trying to help a friend avoid mooning a whole room full of people cos she couldn't pull her own pants up! SKANK! AND dancing in clubs...hardly! As a short arse who doesn't tend to throw her weight around I'd just end up standing in people's armpits and there's always a few stupid drunk girls whose idea of dancing is to wave their damn limbs around in exaggerated movements clocking you in the face...why if I was a stroppy(er) cow I'd have had my own fair share of bar fights!
Plus I find the music is crap and the same shiite seems to be playing in every bar and then they take perfectly good songs, remix them and play them against a stupid arse beat making the song completely disjointed so there is no flow and you can't sing along unless you develop a stutter!
MissNey - There are good guys out there and sorry I am one of the bitches that got one of the good ones! I do feel very lucky:Punk: and I don't envy anyone who is out there and genuinely interested in finding someone who is worth some effort. I wouldn't bother even looking if (heaven forbid) something happened to our relationshp...would probably just get all bitter and twisted and die a miserable old spinster dribbling into my incontinence pants! :sick:

[007XX]

MissNey - There are good guys out there and sorry I am one of the bitches that got one of the good ones! I do feel very lucky:Punk: and I don't envy anyone who is out there and genuinely interested in finding someone who is worth some effort. I wouldn't bother even looking if (heaven forbid) something happened to our relationshp...would probably just get all bitter and twisted and die a miserable old spinster dribbling into my incontinence pants! :sick:

What she said...:yes: I know for a fact I'd be shit out of luck trying to find another 007XY :no:

So, we would just have to get bitter and twisted together...:hug:

[Number One]

So, we would just have to get bitter and twisted together...:hug:

Sweet as - I'll stock up on the "Depends" (just incase) - what's yer size? :msn-wink:

[007XX]

Sweet as - I'll stock up on the "Depends" (just incase) - what's yer size? :msn-wink:

It depends (bad pun, sorry! :p)...in my mind, I'm still an 8, in reality, gravity and having a kid have made it more like 12 these days :blank:

Aaaahhh, the joys of growing old...:rolleyes:

[Number One]

It depends (bad pun, sorry! :p)...in my mind, I'm still an 8, in reality, gravity and having a kid have made it more like 12 these days :blank:

Aaaahhh, the joys of growing old...:rolleyes:

I hear you - inside me there is a skinny hot young thing just dying to get out! :yes:

[Bass]

MissNey - There are good guys out there and sorry I am one of the bitches that got one of the good ones! I do feel very lucky:


What she said...:yes: I know for a fact I'd be shit out of luck trying to find another 007XY :no:


If you feel that way about your relationships, then I will wager my left one that it's AT LEAST 50% due to what YOU put into it.

[Number One]

If you feel that way about your relationships, then I will wager my left one that it's AT LEAST 50% due to what YOU put into it.

Not meaning to sound too 'full of myself' but I'd of course have to agree we are in it together afterall....but anyway c'mere you :hug:

[owner]

Why does the population of arrogant men seem to be increasing?
Because the breeders keep poping them out and bringing them up that way
Deal with it............ or not?






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[Coyote]

Why does the population of arrogant men seem to be increasing?
Because the breeders keep poping them out and bringing them up that way
Deal with it............ or not?
"breeders" is the word...


We need some disaster to kull the population down a bit. Darwin's theory isn't working nowadays since we have no natural predators

[maxworldbiker]

Ha ha! Its only ever a matter of time before the feminist card gets trotted out as the "blame" for women's right to assert themselves. But speaking for myself and many other women I know, I have to say that I reckon feminism, well-intentioned as it was, actually did more harm than good to the equilibrium of the planet. Yes, really. It might give you guys some faith, to know that we're not all hysterical bra-burning, bollock-ripping tree-pullers. I think men have had a raw deal over feminism, on the whole, and its got to the point where we're still living with the standards of previous generations (who thankfully still have some moral influence so far, at least) but trying to incorporate new ones that give women equality on levels where its needed without going too far in the wrong direction. Nobody really know what's expected of them anymore. My poor old Dad, who's 72, told me he was raised to do nice things, like hold a door open for a woman rather than let it shut in her face, but these days he doesn't know if he's gonna get thanked or snarled at for his trouble. So he is confused. Personally, though, I like to have a door held open for me, or a seat given up for me on a bus if I'm carrying a load of shopping and some guy isn't. I always try to dig out my best smile and polish it up, even if its an effort for whatever reason, and say thank you, because I think it is nice of them to do it, and I don't want it to fade away to a distant memory. I wish the guy who wandered past me in the Warehouse the other day while I was trying unsuccessfully to wrestle a big heavy box down from a shelf taller than me would have stopped and asked me if I needed a hand. I don't care if the feminists yell at me for being soft, or undermining their cause (God, who needs those targets?), but some girls do care, and even if they don't really want to, the behave how they think they should, because they don't wanna let the sisterhood down. Don't lynch me, gals, but after 47 years in the real world, and a long apprenticeship of hard knocks and challenges, I think women do need a little looking after. If we're nurtured, ourselves, rather than treated like pieces of meat in bars, or abused for having opinions that men aren't happy about, it puts us in a better place to nurture our men and children. After all, we're expected to do that, but there's only so much you can keep giving out to everyone else, when you don't get much coming back in to draw good stuff from to turn it around and give back out. Kinda like a tide. Has to come in before it can go out. Sometimes women who go to bars and post their frustrations on forums are really just looking to have something nice happen in their lives for a change, and don't need to be shot down by those men who have decided to take it all too personally and make it all about them. Yes, men have an equal right to defend themselves, but there are polite ways to do it, as some men have chosen here, and they therefore deserve to be properly heard. The ranting chest-beaters don't, because that's all too bloody familiar and we get enough of it already out in the real world. I'm not what you'd call "hot" but I've still had to fight off a long parade of no-brainers over the years, some of them aggressively. I've had to swear at some, and I've had to actually drop two, because it was the only way I was gonna get left alone. One time, a guy was hassling me and he started shoving me because I was trying to ignore him. Some other guys just stood around, nobody intervened (the old feminist thing: yeah, she can look after herself, watch this, fellas, see what happens!), so I told him three times to F*** off, I then told him I'd hit him if he didn't, and he didn't. So I knocked him out. Lots of cheers from the boys, but nobody noticed how upsetting that was for me, because I'd rather not have had to do it. Having to deal with wankers and no-brainers is an unfortunate hazard for most girls who like to go out in the hope they will meet someone nice, and it shouldn't have to be that way, but it is, so yes, we complain about it. Why shouldn't we? It doesn't mean all men are assholes. Far from it. Its just a pity when so many of them have decided to make themselves know here in ways that suggest we don't have the right to be upset when people treat us badly and we don't deserve a safe platform free of hassle here in this forum to discuss it. As for the defensive rejoinder of being told to F*** off back to another forum? I rest my case. :banana:

[007XX]

If you feel that way about your relationships, then I will wager my left one that it's AT LEAST 50% due to what YOU put into it.

Oh absolutely! As usual, it takes two to tango...and both 007XY and I are quite good dancers! :niceone: And what Number One said: C'mere you! :hug:


Not meaning to sound too 'full of myself' but I'd of course have to agree we are in it together afterall....but anyway c'mere you :hug:

Oh, Oh hang one, wait for me...:grouphug:



As for the defensive rejoinder of being told to F*** off back to another forum? I rest my case. :banana:

Bling sent, as I agree wholeheartedly about feminism having harmed our position in society more than helped it, and simply because it has been pushed to extremes from both sides.

Just as a confirmation though....were you told to F off to another forum from someone around here? The reason I ask is, there are a couple of arguably lesser IQd versions of the male specie on here, but the majority of the blokes I've met of KB are some of the best representations of good guys I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

[jrandom]

Ha ha! Silence! I kill you!

:eek5:

My dear woman, may I introduce you to the joys of the Enter key?

It's over there, on the right-hand side of your keyboard.

It is used to make things readable.

If you go back and do a bit of editing on that screed, I may well actually manage to comprehend it.

Congratulations, though. It's been years since someone's posted something on the internet that's actually defeated my efforts to read it to the end.

[jrandom]

there are a couple of arguably lesser IQd versions of the male specie on here...

*giggles, drools onto his T shirt*

[Blue Velvet]

:eek5:

My dear woman, may I introduce you to the joys of the Enter key?

It's over there, on the right-hand side of your keyboard.

It is used to make things readable.

If you go back and do a bit of editing on that screed, I may well actually manage to comprehend it.

Congratulations, though. It's been years since someone's posted something on the internet that's actually defeated my efforts to read it to the end.

The poster noted some good points but it was very hard to read...

[imdying]

there are a couple of arguably lesser IQd versions of the male specie on hereI'd rather be thick and genuine than clever and slimey any way :hug:

[Coyote]

Congratulations, though. It's been years since someone's posted something on the internet that's actually defeated my efforts to read it to the end.
I read it, and I'm hopeless when it comes to things with many words


Feminism is bull. They want to be equal in things they want to be equal in. A women is allowed to sleep with many guys since many guys sleep around, but then a women is allowed to hit a man but a man isn't allowed to hit a women (not that I'm bummed out by that, but it's a good example). Thing is we'll never be equal, women have to give birth and guys will forever be at the mercy of the women's fickle mind.

Just as a confirmation though....were you told to F off to another forum from someone around here? The reason I ask is, there are a couple of arguably lesser IQd versions of the male specie on here, but the majority of the blokes I've met of KB are some of the best representations of good guys I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.
I'd like to think that's more because nice guys are the majority, and the arseholes make themselves heard so there seems to be a disproportionate amount of them.

Mind you I've seen worse things in this world, wouldn't be surprised if nice guys were dying out. Especially when there seems to be fewer nice girls around...

[007XX]

*giggles, drools onto his T shirt*

Oh yeah...that's a nice mental picture :lol: (gosh, I do so love double entenders...)


I'd rather be thick and genuine than clever and slimey any way :hug:

Eh, don't be so mean to Jrandom...He does try, you know!

Mind you, you could try being thick and clever...you'd certainly be popular with the girls! :blip:


I'd like to think that's more because nice guys are the majority, and the arseholes make themselves heard so there seems to be a disproportionate amount of them.



Yes, that's what i'd like to think too.

[jrandom]

Eh, don't be so mean to Jrandom...He does try, you know!

Being mean to me is imdying's fourteenth-favourite pastime, some way down the list from eating Kranskys and thrashing his RGV.

Mmm, Kranskys.


you could try being thick and clever...

... and then a little bit slimy shortly thereafter?

:D

[007XX]

... and then a little bit slimy shortly thereafter?

:D

:shit: However did you know??? :lol:

[imdying]

Mind you, you could try being thick and clever...you'd certainly be popular with the girls! :blip:Yeeesh, there's always gotta be one strumpet doesn't there :rofl:

[007XX]

Yeeesh, there's always gotta be one strumpet doesn't there :rofl:

Difference is with me: I make it look good! :blip:

(shit, Cowpoos is going to kill me...):chase:

[99TLS]

Ha ha! Its only ever a matter of time before the feminist card gets trotted out as the "blame" for women's right to assert themselves. But speaking for myself and many other women I know, I have to say that I reckon feminism, well-intentioned as it was, actually did more harm than good to the equilibrium of the planet. Yes, really. It might give you guys some faith, to know that we're not all hysterical bra-burning, bollock-ripping tree-pullers. I think men have had a raw deal over feminism, on the whole, and its got to the point where we're still living with the standards of previous generations (who thankfully still have some moral influence so far, at least) but trying to incorporate new ones that give women equality on levels where its needed without going too far in the wrong direction. Nobody really know what's expected of them anymore. My poor old Dad, who's 72, told me he was raised to do nice things, like hold a door open for a woman rather than let it shut in her face, but these days he doesn't know if he's gonna get thanked or snarled at for his trouble. So he is confused. Personally, though, I like to have a door held open for me, or a seat given up for me on a bus if I'm carrying a load of shopping and some guy isn't. I always try to dig out my best smile and polish it up, even if its an effort for whatever reason, and say thank you, because I think it is nice of them to do it, and I don't want it to fade away to a distant memory. I wish the guy who wandered past me in the Warehouse the other day while I was trying unsuccessfully to wrestle a big heavy box down from a shelf taller than me would have stopped and asked me if I needed a hand. I don't care if the feminists yell at me for being soft, or undermining their cause (God, who needs those targets?), but some girls do care, and even if they don't really want to, the behave how they think they should, because they don't wanna let the sisterhood down. Don't lynch me, gals, but after 47 years in the real world, and a long apprenticeship of hard knocks and challenges, I think women do need a little looking after. If we're nurtured, ourselves, rather than treated like pieces of meat in bars, or abused for having opinions that men aren't happy about, it puts us in a better place to nurture our men and children. After all, we're expected to do that, but there's only so much you can keep giving out to everyone else, when you don't get much coming back in to draw good stuff from to turn it around and give back out. Kinda like a tide. Has to come in before it can go out. Sometimes women who go to bars and post their frustrations on forums are really just looking to have something nice happen in their lives for a change, and don't need to be shot down by those men who have decided to take it all too personally and make it all about them. Yes, men have an equal right to defend themselves, but there are polite ways to do it, as some men have chosen here, and they therefore deserve to be properly heard. The ranting chest-beaters don't, because that's all too bloody familiar and we get enough of it already out in the real world. I'm not what you'd call "hot" but I've still had to fight off a long parade of no-brainers over the years, some of them aggressively. I've had to swear at some, and I've had to actually drop two, because it was the only way I was gonna get left alone. One time, a guy was hassling me and he started shoving me because I was trying to ignore him. Some other guys just stood around, nobody intervened (the old feminist thing: yeah, she can look after herself, watch this, fellas, see what happens!), so I told him three times to F*** off, I then told him I'd hit him if he didn't, and he didn't. So I knocked him out. Lots of cheers from the boys, but nobody noticed how upsetting that was for me, because I'd rather not have had to do it. Having to deal with wankers and no-brainers is an unfortunate hazard for most girls who like to go out in the hope they will meet someone nice, and it shouldn't have to be that way, but it is, so yes, we complain about it. Why shouldn't we? It doesn't mean all men are assholes. Far from it. Its just a pity when so many of them have decided to make themselves know here in ways that suggest we don't have the right to be upset when people treat us badly and we don't deserve a safe platform free of hassle here in this forum to discuss it. As for the defensive rejoinder of being told to F*** off back to another forum? I rest my case. :banana:

missed that did you say something :whistle:

[Pancakes]

....................women have to give birth.....................


Giving birth, they just say it's painfull so you'll feel sorry for them. How bad can it be when heaps of women have more then one baby? If it was that bad would they do it again?




heh heh heh... wind 'em up and let e'em go!

[fireliv]

topic for the GIRLS, i repeat the GIRLS (just incase you guys missed it the first time:P)


is it just me or do 'nice guys' seem to be disappearing at a fast rate? i went out to celebrate my birthday last night, and it because it was a girls night i just pretended that i wasnt single as I just wanted to spend time with my mates.

a**hole number #1::2guns:
although he was really sleazy i was just trying to let him down gently because well, im not a bitch. so when he asked if i was single and i lied and said no, he went off at me saying i 'led him on' (this was two minutes into the conversation by the way) and that if im not single why am i even out clubbing? he wasnt too amused when i said my bf decided to let me off the chain tonight

a**hole number #2::bash:
a guy actually used, no joke a pick up line along the lines of 'how about we go back to my place and do the things im going to tell everyone we did anyway' when i fake laughed and politely turned him down he apologised and said he just assumed i was yet another 'aussie skank' that had 'a thing' for maoris so he wanted to try his luck :S:S


last but not least
a**hole number #3::angry2:
he tried to pick up my mate, they kind of knew eachother so when she declined (GIRLS NIGHT HELLO) he went around spreading crap about how she sleeps around etc



what is with the increase in a**holes? or is it just me thats noticing? in which case where on earth did all the nice guys go!!!

Unfortuatly they all come out when they think that a girl might be trashed enough to sleep with them. THere are nice guys out there, they just dont hang in bars. Only the sleezy ones do

[Finn]

Ha ha! Its only ever a matter of time before the feminist card gets trotted out as the "blame" for women's right to assert themselves. But speaking for myself and many other women I know, I have to say that I reckon feminism, well-intentioned as it was, actually did more harm than good to the equilibrium of the planet. Yes, really. It might give you guys some faith, to know that we're not all hysterical bra-burning, bollock-ripping tree-pullers. I think men have had a raw deal over feminism, on the whole, and its got to the point where we're still living with the standards of previous generations (who thankfully still have some moral influence so far, at least) but trying to incorporate new ones that give women equality on levels where its needed without going too far in the wrong direction. Nobody really know what's expected of them anymore. My poor old Dad, who's 72, told me he was raised to do nice things, like hold a door open for a woman rather than let it shut in her face, but these days he doesn't know if he's gonna get thanked or snarled at for his trouble. So he is confused. Personally, though, I like to have a door held open for me, or a seat given up for me on a bus if I'm carrying a load of shopping and some guy isn't. I always try to dig out my best smile and polish it up, even if its an effort for whatever reason, and say thank you, because I think it is nice of them to do it, and I don't want it to fade away to a distant memory. I wish the guy who wandered past me in the Warehouse the other day while I was trying unsuccessfully to wrestle a big heavy box down from a shelf taller than me would have stopped and asked me if I needed a hand. I don't care if the feminists yell at me for being soft, or undermining their cause (God, who needs those targets?), but some girls do care, and even if they don't really want to, the behave how they think they should, because they don't wanna let the sisterhood down. Don't lynch me, gals, but after 47 years in the real world, and a long apprenticeship of hard knocks and challenges, I think women do need a little looking after. If we're nurtured, ourselves, rather than treated like pieces of meat in bars, or abused for having opinions that men aren't happy about, it puts us in a better place to nurture our men and children. After all, we're expected to do that, but there's only so much you can keep giving out to everyone else, when you don't get much coming back in to draw good stuff from to turn it around and give back out. Kinda like a tide. Has to come in before it can go out. Sometimes women who go to bars and post their frustrations on forums are really just looking to have something nice happen in their lives for a change, and don't need to be shot down by those men who have decided to take it all too personally and make it all about them. Yes, men have an equal right to defend themselves, but there are polite ways to do it, as some men have chosen here, and they therefore deserve to be properly heard. The ranting chest-beaters don't, because that's all too bloody familiar and we get enough of it already out in the real world. I'm not what you'd call "hot" but I've still had to fight off a long parade of no-brainers over the years, some of them aggressively. I've had to swear at some, and I've had to actually drop two, because it was the only way I was gonna get left alone. One time, a guy was hassling me and he started shoving me because I was trying to ignore him. Some other guys just stood around, nobody intervened (the old feminist thing: yeah, she can look after herself, watch this, fellas, see what happens!), so I told him three times to F*** off, I then told him I'd hit him if he didn't, and he didn't. So I knocked him out. Lots of cheers from the boys, but nobody noticed how upsetting that was for me, because I'd rather not have had to do it. Having to deal with wankers and no-brainers is an unfortunate hazard for most girls who like to go out in the hope they will meet someone nice, and it shouldn't have to be that way, but it is, so yes, we complain about it. Why shouldn't we? It doesn't mean all men are assholes. Far from it. Its just a pity when so many of them have decided to make themselves know here in ways that suggest we don't have the right to be upset when people treat us badly and we don't deserve a safe platform free of hassle here in this forum to discuss it. As for the defensive rejoinder of being told to F*** off back to another forum? I rest my case. :banana:

This is a forum, not a fucken book club!

[pritch]

Slappers get jerks. Full stop.

It may not be immediately apparent but there may well be some wisdom therein.

Can't comment on who frequents nightclubs, by the time they open I'm probably asleep.

The guys described by the originator of this thread would once have been described as "lounge lizards". They have their successes, which is nice for them, because that appears to be the means by which they bolster their fragile self esteem.

[FilthyLuka]

Ha ha! Its only ever a matter of time before the feminist card gets trotted out as the "blame" for women's right to assert themselves. But speaking for myself and many other women I know, I have to say that I reckon feminism, well-intentioned as it was, actually did more harm than good to the equilibrium of the planet. Yes, really. It might give you guys some faith, to know that we're not all hysterical bra-burning, bollock-ripping tree-pullers. I think men have had a raw deal over feminism, on the whole, and its got to the point where we're still living with the standards of previous generations (who thankfully still have some moral influence so far, at least) but trying to incorporate new ones that give women equality on levels where its needed without going too far in the wrong direction. Nobody really know what's expected of them anymore. My poor old Dad, who's 72, told me he was raised to do nice things, like hold a door open for a woman rather than let it shut in her face, but these days he doesn't know if he's gonna get thanked or snarled at for his trouble. So he is confused. Personally, though, I like to have a door held open for me, or a seat given up for me on a bus if I'm carrying a load of shopping and some guy isn't. I always try to dig out my best smile and polish it up, even if its an effort for whatever reason, and say thank you, because I think it is nice of them to do it, and I don't want it to fade away to a distant memory. I wish the guy who wandered past me in the Warehouse the other day while I was trying unsuccessfully to wrestle a big heavy box down from a shelf taller than me would have stopped and asked me if I needed a hand. I don't care if the feminists yell at me for being soft, or undermining their cause (God, who needs those targets?), but some girls do care, and even if they don't really want to, the behave how they think they should, because they don't wanna let the sisterhood down. Don't lynch me, gals, but after 47 years in the real world, and a long apprenticeship of hard knocks and challenges, I think women do need a little looking after. If we're nurtured, ourselves, rather than treated like pieces of meat in bars, or abused for having opinions that men aren't happy about, it puts us in a better place to nurture our men and children. After all, we're expected to do that, but there's only so much you can keep giving out to everyone else, when you don't get much coming back in to draw good stuff from to turn it around and give back out. Kinda like a tide. Has to come in before it can go out. Sometimes women who go to bars and post their frustrations on forums are really just looking to have something nice happen in their lives for a change, and don't need to be shot down by those men who have decided to take it all too personally and make it all about them. Yes, men have an equal right to defend themselves, but there are polite ways to do it, as some men have chosen here, and they therefore deserve to be properly heard. The ranting chest-beaters don't, because that's all too bloody familiar and we get enough of it already out in the real world. I'm not what you'd call "hot" but I've still had to fight off a long parade of no-brainers over the years, some of them aggressively. I've had to swear at some, and I've had to actually drop two, because it was the only way I was gonna get left alone. One time, a guy was hassling me and he started shoving me because I was trying to ignore him. Some other guys just stood around, nobody intervened (the old feminist thing: yeah, she can look after herself, watch this, fellas, see what happens!), so I told him three times to F*** off, I then told him I'd hit him if he didn't, and he didn't. So I knocked him out. Lots of cheers from the boys, but nobody noticed how upsetting that was for me, because I'd rather not have had to do it. Having to deal with wankers and no-brainers is an unfortunate hazard for most girls who like to go out in the hope they will meet someone nice, and it shouldn't have to be that way, but it is, so yes, we complain about it. Why shouldn't we? It doesn't mean all men are assholes. Far from it. Its just a pity when so many of them have decided to make themselves know here in ways that suggest we don't have the right to be upset when people treat us badly and we don't deserve a safe platform free of hassle here in this forum to discuss it. As for the defensive rejoinder of being told to F*** off back to another forum? I rest my case. :banana:

holy shit balls...

No, i just... oh what the hell, thats ALOT of text ma'am

Pretty much all the sleazy guys seem to have that confidence thing, whilst the genuinely nice ones are busy staring at their pint and talking to a mate to meet anyone new, purely my observation...

Ah, what would a post be with out a story eh? well, here it goes.
Now, this is no bullshit, it actually happened

School girl party was thrown at this one croatian club for a fund raiser, i decide, fuck it would be funny if i come dressed up as a school girl! That'll show them facists for roping me in to working tonight... Well, i was 14 at the time, had long blonde hair that was "super silky" that night thanks to herbal essences (man that stuff smells nice, almost makes me regret wet shaving my head 3 years ago), anyway, put on a tartan skirt, a white shirt and red tie... hmm, wow do i look girlie... enter sister, apply various coloured stuff to face... dont look in the mirror, it would be WAY to fucken funny and i would die of laughter... anyway, so night goes good.

Around 2 AM, mr. drunken slovenian shows up... Im standing at the bar talkin to my bro (big wookie lookin bastard), and slovenian guy starts to chat me up... not even being subtle. Okay, he's drunk and im not exactly masculine, thats fine, "dude you know im a guy right?" "Oh? really? well, you look like a girl so i guess i could manage..." #slovenian looks me up and down# RED LIGHT, hmm, okay, start wondering how much damage this corona bottle would do to ones head, brother has been listening to this whole conversation so he has a empty jack bottle at hand... My sister seemed to catch on to this by now and directed mr. drunken slovenian's attention elsewhere.

She wen't out with him for about a month then he got his sorry arse deported.

Now, i did that once, now i've decided to put less effort into cross dressing and do it appaulingly so that it's atleast OBVIOUS im taking the piss

I suppose the opposite sex gotta deal with this stuff on a more regular basis, must suck...

shit... what was my point again? oh yeah, that novel, really, bling sent purely for the MASS of that thing

[GazzaRuney]

Yes Missney - there are a whole swag of tossers out there - no argument - but trust me; there are some nice guys left - but we are becoming an endangered species!!!!

[CBR97]

holy shit balls...

No, i just... oh what the hell, thats ALOT of text ma'am

Pretty much all the sleazy guys seem to have that confidence thing, whilst the genuinely nice ones are busy staring at their pint and talking to a mate to meet anyone new, purely my observation...

Ah, what would a post be with out a story eh? well, here it goes.
Now, this is no bullshit, it actually happened

School girl party was thrown at this one croatian club for a fund raiser, i decide, fuck it would be funny if i come dressed up as a school girl! That'll show them facists for roping me in to working tonight... Well, i was 14 at the time, had long blonde hair that was "super silky" that night thanks to herbal essences (man that stuff smells nice, almost makes me regret wet shaving my head 3 years ago), anyway, put on a tartan skirt, a white shirt and red tie... hmm, wow do i look girlie... enter sister, apply various coloured stuff to face... dont look in the mirror, it would be WAY to fucken funny and i would die of laughter... anyway, so night goes good.

Around 2 AM, mr. drunken slovenian shows up... Im standing at the bar talkin to my bro (big wookie lookin bastard), and slovenian guy starts to chat me up... not even being subtle. Okay, he's drunk and im not exactly masculine, thats fine, "dude you know im a guy right?" "Oh? really? well, you look like a girl so i guess i could manage..." #slovenian looks me up and down# RED LIGHT, hmm, okay, start wondering how much damage this corona bottle would do to ones head, brother has been listening to this whole conversation so he has a empty jack bottle at hand... My sister seemed to catch on to this by now and directed mr. drunken slovenian's attention elsewhere.

She wen't out with him for about a month then he got his sorry arse deported.

Now, i did that once, now i've decided to put less effort into cross dressing and do it appaulingly so that it's atleast OBVIOUS im taking the piss

I suppose the opposite sex gotta deal with this stuff on a more regular basis, must suck...

shit... what was my point again? oh yeah, that novel, really, bling sent purely for the MASS of that thing

Do you have any pics, of you in a dress or girly undies?

it might help with the story you know, if we get to see how hot you looked.

anway it was a nice story.:woohoo:

[Storm]

Thats wrong man, you dont need pics :(

[FilthyLuka]

Thats wrong man, you dont need pics :(

I have a couple photos somewhere... we'll, one of my inlaws does for 21'st purposes... No girly underwear though, sorry dude :msn-wink:

[merv]

.....but the majority of the blokes I've met of KB are some of the best representations of good guys I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

It was a pleasure meeting you too at the Birthday Bash here in Welly :niceone:

[Storm]

Huzzah- our retinas are spared

[FilthyLuka]

Huzzah- our retinas are spared

Are you saying im not pretty!!! :crybaby:

[007XX]

It was a pleasure meeting you too at the Birthday Bash here in Welly :niceone:

Thank you my dear...right back at ya! :yes:


Huzzah- our retinas are spared

:eek5: I'm with Storm on this one...Although the story was hilarious!

[mstriumph]

[QUOTE=yungatart;1277699]Moost of the men I hang around with/meet are fantastic...QUOTE]

me too :sunny:

[maxworldbiker]

God, I completely forgot just how many men out there have the attention span of a baby sandfly! OR how many crumple entirely in the face of intelligent argument that extends past the few syllables of grunt they come up with themselves. Of course I s'pose they'd rather women just shut up altogether. Get on back from bobo-land and wake up - it ain't gonna happen. HUGE apologies, if the earlier text bored you or left you out of your depth, boys! Anyone out there who who knows what an intelligent gender discussion actually is, declare yourselves!!! PLEASE don't leave us to the mercy of the morons who can't face a reasoned paragraph... some of whom have had to resort to name calling and criticism to feel better about the fact.:yawn:

[mstriumph]

........ Anyone out there who who knows what an intelligent gender discussion actually is, declare yourselves!!! .............

erm - *looks bemused and wanders off .....*

[maxworldbiker]

erm - *looks bemused and wanders off .....*

Well, it obviously aint you, then, trumpy!!!!!:laugh:

[cowpoos]

Difference is with me: I make it look good! :blip:

(shit, Cowpoos is going to kill me...):chase:

LMFAO!!!!! you think your the best strumpet doll!! I used to find a sexual inuendo when there wasn't one!!

and not to mention I'm taller with a firmer butt! :cool: :spanking:



.....but the majority of the blokes I've met of KB are some of the best representations of good guys I have ever had the pleasure of meeting.

the pleasure was all mine!! :cool:


yeah baby!!

[Blue Velvet]

holy shit balls...

No, i just... oh what the hell, thats ALOT of text ma'am

Pretty much all the sleazy guys seem to have that confidence thing, whilst the genuinely nice ones are busy staring at their pint and talking to a mate to meet anyone new, purely my observation...

Ah, what would a post be with out a story eh? well, here it goes.
Now, this is no bullshit, it actually happened

School girl party was thrown at this one croatian club for a fund raiser, i decide, fuck it would be funny if i come dressed up as a school girl! That'll show them facists for roping me in to working tonight... Well, i was 14 at the time, had long blonde hair that was "super silky" that night thanks to herbal essences (man that stuff smells nice, almost makes me regret wet shaving my head 3 years ago), anyway, put on a tartan skirt, a white shirt and red tie... hmm, wow do i look girlie... enter sister, apply various coloured stuff to face... dont look in the mirror, it would be WAY to fucken funny and i would die of laughter... anyway, so night goes good.

Around 2 AM, mr. drunken slovenian shows up... Im standing at the bar talkin to my bro (big wookie lookin bastard), and slovenian guy starts to chat me up... not even being subtle. Okay, he's drunk and im not exactly masculine, thats fine, "dude you know im a guy right?" "Oh? really? well, you look like a girl so i guess i could manage..." #slovenian looks me up and down# RED LIGHT, hmm, okay, start wondering how much damage this corona bottle would do to ones head, brother has been listening to this whole conversation so he has a empty jack bottle at hand... My sister seemed to catch on to this by now and directed mr. drunken slovenian's attention elsewhere.

She wen't out with him for about a month then he got his sorry arse deported.

Now, i did that once, now i've decided to put less effort into cross dressing and do it appaulingly so that it's atleast OBVIOUS im taking the piss

I suppose the opposite sex gotta deal with this stuff on a more regular basis, must suck...

shit... what was my point again? oh yeah, that novel, really, bling sent purely for the MASS of that thing

Reminds me of this one time, at band camp...

When I was 15 or 16 I went to a party one Saturday night with my dad. He wanted to wear one of my skirts, so I lent him one which was too big for me and fit him. He also borrows one of my shirts and a necklace.

We go to the party and he gets totally wasted. By about 3 or 4am I'm wondering what to do with myself and one of his mates suggests taking the car and going home, which I do.

Next morning my dad walks home around the bays (in Wellington). He has no cash on him and no one at the house he left was able to give him a ride.

Picture lovely sunny summer Sunday with families out enjoying the weather and water, and my dad walking around in a skirt and stuff, looking like death after a hard night.

I don't know why he didn't ring me to come pick him up, but thinking about it now he was probably in his element, putting on a show in front of all the 'normal' people. Heh. What a dag :yes:

Edit: This post is on topic cos my dad is an arrogant man, heh bite me

[cowpoos]

Years ago...a mate of mine was hitting on what he thought was a chick in a bar in the mount...lmao...they were even kissing outside while having a ciggie...fark it was hilarious...funny thing was...Nore I or my other friend picked it till the bar manager pointed it out...there were definatly masculine features...lol I can't for some reason remember what happened at the end of the nite...but I know he was embaressed as hell about it for years afterwards!!

[007XX]

and not to mention I'm taller with a firmer butt! :cool: :spanking:

:confused: What butt? Ooooooooohhh, you mean that sunken and battered bit of flesh at the base of your spine??? :msn-wink:

Bet you my next pizza that a lot of people would say I got a nicer arse than you (and yes, that might even include a girl or two!). :girlfight:



the pleasure was all mine!! :cool:
yeah baby!!

One of your most entertaining qualities resides in your highly delusionnal state. Please keep going, I need some amusement :bleh:

[mstriumph]

Well, it obviously aint you, then, trumpy!!!!!:laugh:

mebbe
mebbe not :msn-wink:
but both immaterial and irrelevant, irrespective
since my bemusement was prompted, not by the CONTENT of your request........

but that you had made it HERE,

here on KB

KB ... the last far-flung outpost of "who-gives-a-fuck-about-intelligent-gender-discussion" :innocent:

[cowpoos]

:confused: What butt? Ooooooooohhh, you mean that sunken and battered bit of flesh at the base of your spine??? :msn-wink:

Bet you my next pizza that a lot of people would say I got a nicer arse than you (and yes, that might even include a girl or two!). :girlfight:


They would only say that out of pitty...and besides the statment I made was reffering to firmness...shall we have a line up at some stage??

[and besides that...I have posted a bare picture of my derrie on here doll...and your yet too!! chicken!!]




One of your most entertaining qualities resides in your highly delusionnal state. Please keep going, I need some amusement :bleh:

Are you sure your not confussing me with Jrandom?? piffft!! if you arn't I fear your confussing Delusional with honest!!


**cues "softly as I leave" by henry Mancini** :rolleyes:

[mstriumph]

................we're not all hysterical bra-burning, bollock-ripping tree-pullers. .......

well, gender-irrespective, SOME of us here are ......... :angry2::



ohhhhhhhhhh TREE-pullers ........:Oops:

[007XX]

[and besides that...I have posted a bare picture of my derrie on here doll...and your yet too!! chicken!!]

Go do your research better young cub...as to the firmness, bare bones are not firm, just painful so i am happy with my plushness :shake:


Are you sure your not confussing me with Jrandom?? piffft!! if you arn't I fear your confussing Delusional with honest!!


**cues "softly as I leave" by henry Mancini** :rolleyes:

The confusion would be a very difficult one to make, at least if the minimum comparing criteria was spelling :bleh:

[cowpoos]

Go do your research better young cub...as to the firmness, bare bones are not firm, just painful so i am happy with my plushness :shake:


Okay I'll go do some searching momma beer!! [it better be worth the effort!!] and boney arse!!! piffft!! lmao...who are you geting me confussed with lol




The confusion would be a very difficult one to make, at least if the minimum comparing criteria was spelling :bleh:

I miss-spell on purpose...its the new black didn't ya know!! :rockon:

[cowpoos]

Okay I'll go do some searching momma bear!! [it better be worth the effort!!]

It seems you have...I stand corrected!!

but mines still way hotter...and y'know it!!

[NOMIS]

Man you hang out at some dodgy places then, im a nice guy. disregard my screen name theres actually a story behind it and it def aint dirty.

[007XX]

Okay I'll go do some searching momma beer!! [it better be worth the effort!!] and boney arse!!! piffft!! lmao...who are you geting me confussed with lol

The mountain was better looking :nya:. No confusion for me dear, I do my research before posting...:innocent:


I miss-spell on purpose...its the new black didn't ya know!! :rockon:

Pardon my obvious lack of knowledge on this new fashion you speak of...not my cup of tea though I have to admit. But each to their own I guess...

[cowpoos]

disregard my screen name theres actually a story behind it and it def aint dirty. lemme guess...your a ghey sailor?

[cowpoos]

The mountain was better looking :nya:. No confusion for me dear, I do my research before posting...:innocent:


your the only chick that noticed a mountain in that pic

Btw...nice tattoo

[007XX]

It seems you have...I stand corrected!!

but mines still way hotter...and y'know it!!

You will stand corrected many times to come yet, so you might as well get used to it dear! :dodge:

What I know though, is if you stopped staring in adoration at your own arse, you might just get to stay upright longer next time...

:innocent:

[007XX]

your the only chick that noticed a mountain in that pic

Btw...nice tattoo

:laugh: admitedly, it was a very nice landscape shot. I am amazed at how we have stayed on topic with our little banter however...

Thanks re: tat. Second one I have, but will get another one lower on my back within the year I hope.

[buellbabe]

Blimmin heck! halfway thru reading that thread it started to deteriorate so I just skipped to the end LOL

Bars, pubs, clubs... pick up joints , always have been and always will be. Ya just deal with it.

3 jerks in total isn't too bad for a night out LOL.

Anyway MissNey, I hope the rest of the night was primo for ya... ;-)

[NOMIS]

lemme guess...your a ghey sailor?

uhhh good 1 looser,

[NC]

uhhh good 1 looser,

"Loser"


.........................

[007XX]

We asked about arrogant, not vocabulary challenged! Sheesh...

:dodge:

[cowpoos]

"Loser"


.........................
Thanks NC...I knew I could count on you sticking up for me in a 5year old name calling competition for the witt-less people of this world...lol

[cowpoos]

What I know though, is if you stopped staring in adoration at your own arse, you might just get to stay upright longer next time...

:innocent:

in what sencse of the word upright are you refering to doll?

[007XX]

in what sencse of the word upright are you refering to doll?

As in: riding the defunct falcon...:shifty: Gawd, it takes all the fun out of it if I got to explain it.:mellow:

[NC]

Thanks NC...I knew I could count on you sticking up for me in a 5year old name calling competition for the witt-less people of this world...lol

Yep, he's a champ. ;)

[cowpoos]

Yep, he's a champ. ;)
not a chump??

[cowpoos]

As in: riding the defunct falcon...:shifty: Gawd, it takes all the fun out of it if I got to explain it.:mellow:
hmmm...I feel let down you didn't hook the sexual innuendo!!! and probally Blue Velvet does too as she's been lurking on this page for hours!! ;) lol

[NC]

not a chump??

Champ Dog roll, Champ for champions

[007XX]

hmmm...I feel let down you didn't hook the sexual innuendo!!! and probally Blue Velvet does too as she's been lurking on this page for hours!! ;) lol

And I feel let down that you're not biting at my little jibes...I was feeling more in a feisty than horny mood today!

oh well, where's Jrandom? He's always great for a little tussle! :whistle:

[cowpoos]

Champ Dog roll, Champ for champions
is that what Mr Beefy gets for his dunners?

[cowpoos]

And I feel let down that you're not biting at my little jibes...I was feeling more in a feisty than horny mood today!

oh well, where's Jrandom? He's always great for a little tussle! :whistle:

Yeah...I got your little jibes and digs...I couldn't be arsed...and besides I couldn't bite back at you...I've seen you run now...so I will tolerate your presence in person...

Dunno where Jrandom is today...he's online on msn.

[NC]

is that what Mr Beefy gets for his dunners?

He gets whatever is on special at the supermarket, dogroll.
This week it's Pal $6..lol

[cowpoos]

He gets whatever is on special at the supermarket, dogroll.
This week it's Pal $6..lol
My staffy loves chunky black label...but I find TUX energy [working dog] the shit for jake most of the time!!

[NC]

My staffy loves chunky black label...but I find TUX energy [working dog] the shit for jake most of the time!!

the Beefdog is more like a House cat:whistle:

He used to get butch, but thats too expensive at the moment, damn christmas

[007XX]

Yeah...I got your little jibes and digs...I couldn't be arsed...and besides I couldn't bite back at you...I've seen you run now...so I will tolerate your presence in person...

Dunno where Jrandom is today...he's online on msn.

:laugh: what is the KB world coming to if even the Mighty Cowpoo can't be arsed to have a little tumble with the Strumpet? :eek:

Never mind, the PMS symptoms are subsiding now, so I'll be all sweetness and light again :innocent:

[cowpoos]

:laugh: what is the KB world coming to if even the Mighty Cowpoo can't be arsed to have a little tumble with the Strumpet? :eek:

Never mind, the PMS symptoms are subsiding now, so I'll be all sweetness and light again :innocent:
Speaking of PMS...did you know why they named it PMS?

[Steam]

Speaking of PMS...did you know why they named it PMS?

Cos the name "mad cow disease" was taken?

[Trudes]

PMS = Putting up with Men's Shit.

[buellbabe]

I prefer... PMS= Pass My Shotgun

he he he

[cowpoos]

Cos the name "mad cow disease" was taken?
thank steam....err....you took...the....err....steam outta....pifft y' get the idea!!


spoil sport

[007XX]

Speaking of PMS...did you know why they named it PMS?

Please enlighten me, Your Great Pooyness!


Cos the name "mad cow disease" was taken?

:killingme :killingme


I prefer... PMS= Pass My Shotgun

he he he

Oh, I like that one...:yes:

[maxworldbiker]

"Slappers get jerks"

Errmmm... I think you've got it a bit mixed up, darls...

JERKS DESERVE "SLAPPERS"!!!!!

Jerks need to haul themselves out of the evolutionary bog, catch up with the programme, and show women the basic respect they deserve for being an equally legitimate species on the planet, with as much right to a peaceful, un-hassled life by any OTHER species. Until they have this revolutionary epiphany, how arrogant do jerks have to be, to expect to get women who have a sense of self-worth? Why would we put up with dickheads that treat us like shit because they can't be bothered learning any better, who ignore or tear down what we have to contribute, and see us as nothing more than shagbags?

Here's a break in the paragraph for those who can't cope without it...

In any case, some of the women who pick up name tags like "slapper" are more to be pitied than ridiculed or used, because they probably don't have much sense of self-worth and are looking to get it, wrongly, through finding someone who will love them in spite of their problems/baggage/attachments. Of course, until they GET some sense of self worth, they are faced with the on-going stream of jerks who continue to treat them like shit (reinforcing their sense of deserving nothing better - spot the vicious circle), and there DO appear to be rather a lot of those jerky type people out there, if this thread is anything to go by...<_<