Poor, misunderstood Helen

[Pixie]

For eight years she and Michael wanted to relieve us of tax thievery,but the evil IRD lied and said they couldn't afford it.

The poor things didn't feel confident enough in their authority to make a decision to override the IRD.Although they did feel confident enough to override the public on several issues during those eight years.

Next year we will all vote for the poor things.

It isn't a attempt to buy re-election,Honest!


Scumbags

[Finn]

And it's ironic that most of us celebrated Guy Fawkes over the weekend. Pity there aren't people like him around anymore.

[riffer]

Do you reckon the Police would have been able to arrest Guy Fawkes under the Terrorism Supression Act Finn?

Or that we'll be celebrating Tame Iti day in a couple of hundred years time?

I'd say that Labour not giving tax cuts was a kick in the guts for the NZ worker but hey, violence against people would be no surprise for that lot....

[Fatjim]

yeah, like we need more miserable failures in this country.

[Hitcher]

Pity there aren't people like him around anymore.

There are plenty of failures around. Mr Fawkes was unsuccessful, remember?

[Finn]

There are plenty of failures around. Mr Fawkes was unsuccessful, remember?

Oh yeah. But I do like the way he thinks though.

Edit: If kiwi's are stupid enough to vote these morons in again, I'll be outta this shithole so fast, you'd think I bought a Gixxer.

[Pwalo]

I'm looking forward to my weekly extra packet of chewing gum. Still at least Uncle Helen and Aunty Michelle have amassed a large enough surplus to give us a hint of an election bribe.

I do seem top remember a promise that only a small(ish) percentage of the wage earning population were ever to be in the highest tax bracket under a Labour govt. Then again perhaps it's just my impending senility raising it's ugly head again.

[devnull]

Guy Fawkes - the only person to ever enter parliament with honest intentions...

[Swoop]

Remind me please, I've forgotten. Have we actually been given our "packet of chewing gum" tax cut??
IIRC we weren't getting THAT until years after the last election.

Go labour:blink:

[idb]

Remind me please, I've forgotten. Have we actually been given our "packet of chewing gum" tax cut??
IIRC we weren't getting THAT until years after the last election.

Go labour:blink:

Ummm...I think it was scrapped.
Chuddy isn't good for us and makes a mess of the footpaths.

[The Pastor]

hey lets steal 800 000 then let the public pay it back via 0900 vote labour.

[paturoa]

I can't get past how the media keep saying that it is "giving us our money back" - How about phrasing it as "not taking my money from me in the first place".

Cullen also referred to creating a "fair" structure for the cuts. hmmm? Like fuck! Fair to the chief thief currently translates to "If you earn more you not only pay more, you pay more, you pay more etc".


Finance Minister Michael Cullen says any personal tax cuts announced in next year's budget will be fair, and will not require borrowing.

[Lil_Byte]

I seem to remember them lying to us about tax cuts last elections :bash:

[Sanx]

They didn't lie. They simply reneged on a promise. It went something like this:

Labour: We need votes. Therefore, we're going to raise the tax thresholds for everyone, ensuring you all pay less tax. But, although we're announcing it now, it'll only come into force after the next election.
Public: Vote Labour!
Labour: Thank you.

Labour: Actually, now we're in power, we're not going to raise tax thresholds after all. Instead, we're going to take yet more of your money off you, so we can carry on with our little social engineering experiment to find out how many of your personal freedoms and civil liberties we can take away before you, the unwashed proles, decide to torch parliament with us all inside it.

[paturoa]

Surpluses

2007 surplus $ 8,700,000,000
2006 surplus $ 6,200,000,000
2005 surplus $11,500,000,000
2004 surplus $ 5,600,000,000
2003 surplus $ 4,500,000,000

36.5 billion surplus over the last 5 years.


Who pays tax... and how much?

Can't get the table to look right - follow the link...

2007 Budget papers http://www.treasury.govt.nz/budget2007/taxpayers/


Individual taxable income ($) Number of people Tax paid

Income (000) % ($m) %
Zero 237 7% 0 0%
000001 - 10,000440 14% 263 1%
10,000 - 20,000 851 26% 2,199 8%
20,000 - 30,000 381 12% 1,746 7%
30,000 - 40,000 352 11% 2,401 9%
40,000 - 50,000 318 10% 3,071 12%
50,000 - 60,000 197 6% 2,549 10%
60,000 - 70,000 148 5% 2,432 9%
70,000 - 80,000 100 3% 2,018 8%
80,000 - 90,000 50 2% 1,212 5%
90,000 - 100,000 35 1% 977 4%
100,000 - 150,000 78 2% 2,953 11%
150,000+ 45 1% 4,108 16%
All 3,232 100% 25,929 100%

Anyway put another way ...

The top 14% of earners pay 53% of the personal tax.

Can't be fairer than that!

[inlinefour]

If anyone is stupid enough to fall for this shyte, then perhaps NZ deserves to have labour back in control?

[paturoa]

If anyone is stupid enough to fall for this shyte, then perhaps NZ deserves to have labour back in control?

It would appear that at the last election that accounted for 41.5% of us.

[Toaster]

Well, you all know what I think on the matter.


grumble grumble grumble.............

[idb]

"Bring Back The Biff!!!"
Labour have got my vote.

[Swoop]

It would appear that at the last election that accounted for 41.5% of us.
Hmm. With no thanks to the abundance of electorates created in South Auckland... No wonder the loonies got back in.:buggerd:

[Skyryder]

I can't help but think what everyone would be saying if Labour were in the black. Probably exactly the same thing as they are now when Labour are in the red.

Alls forgiven Helen:love: but fuck with Guy Fawks and the fireworks, I might change my mind:nono:

Skyryder

[Sanx]

Hmm. With no thanks to the abundance of electorates created in South Auckland... No wonder the loonies got back in.:buggerd:

At least the Electorate Commission is, nominally at least, independent, so you don't get the situation that was present in the UK in the 80s and early 90s where the government got to reset electorate boundaries to suit the voting intentions of the areas.

[inlinefour]

It would appear that at the last election that accounted for 41.5% of us.

Yea that might be true, but perhaps some of the promises that never was seen through might change those stats?